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PastorAIO:
Why stop there? It could involve the entire universe with absolutely everything in existence involved with what we call consciousness

I would expand but our consciousness is localised to our immediate physical location.

LordReed:
I would expand but our consciousness is localised to our immediate physical location.

This is not true. Phenomena such as telepathy over vast distances exist. And many other phenomena which show that our consciousness has a remit and reach FAR exceeding not just our present location but even this planet.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
This is not true. Phenomena such as telepathy over vast distances exist. And many other phenomena which show that our consciousness has a remit and reach FAR exceeding not just our present location but even this planet.

Kindly provide a demonstration of telepathy.

LordReed:
Kindly provide a demonstration of telepathy.

I dont think I can provide one - at least not one that will satisfy you. You must know, however, that both the CIA and KGB retained psychic remote viewers during the cold war. Many of the results of such remote viewing were extraordinary, and this is well documented.

A thread built on a faulty premise leading to an unintelligent conclusion.
God exists: American is the best proof

The very breath of your nostrils is all the proof that you need to know, that, God is.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
I dont think I can provide one - at least not one that will satisfy you. You must know, however, that both the CIA and KGB retained psychic remote viewers during the cold war. Many of the results of such remote viewing were extraordinary, and this is well documented.

I want real world demonstration of telepathy. What good are the CIA and KGB psychics if they cannot be demonstrated right now? Besides can you tell me why those programs were shut down if they were providing useful data?

LordReed:
I want real world demonstration of telepathy.

Being an experiential thing, it cannot easily be demonstrated to a third party. Nothing stops you from saying anything demonstarted is simply made-up by the parties. Its quite akin to the way in which I cannot prove to you what I dreamt about last night. Since these things reside within the mind, they are almost impossible to prove to a third party. However if one experiences them (as I do and as I have) one knows very well how real they are.

What good are the CIA and KGB psychics if they cannot be demonstrated right now? Besides can you tell me why those programs were shut down if they were providing useful data?

The results were very striking in many cases and at least one former US President testified as much, bless his recently departed soul. As to the programs being shut down, that remains controversial. Some say they were not really shut down but that that was simply what was given out to the public.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
Being an experiential thing, it cannot easily be demonstrated to a third party. Nothing stops you from saying anything demonstarted is simply made-up by the parties. Its quite akin to the way in which I cannot prove to you what I dreamt about last night. Since these things reside within the mind, they are almost impossible to prove to a third party. However if one experiences them (as I do and as I have) one knows very well how real they are.



The results were very striking in many cases and at least one former US President testified as much, bless his recently departed soul. As to the programs being shut down, that remains controversial. Some say they were not really shut down but that that was simply what was given out to the public.

I don't agree. There is a way to test it to every participant's satisfaction.

If psychics were that effective, then why was the cold war the greatest era of spies? Why are spies even still relevant today? Why are they developing even more sophisticated electronic spy systems? Why spend billions developing those things when you can spend a fraction of that and still maintain high quality intelligence?

LordReed:
I don't agree. There is a way to test it to every participant's satisfaction.

Well please do share with me the way then.

If psychics were that effective, then why was the cold war the greatest era of spies? Why are spies even still relevant today? Why are they developing even more sophisticated electronic spy systems? Why spend billions developing those things when you can spend a fraction of that and still maintain high quality intelligence?

Everything is to varying degrees. Even conventional espionage methods have varying degrees of success and failure.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
Well please do share with me the way then.

Sure. We get 8 blank thick cards (to make sure what they are not transparent in any way), on one side we put the 4 card symbols (club, spade, diamond, heart). Each symbol will thus be on 2 cards each. Each symbol will be in a different colour, no colour is repeated. The cards placed upright on a table with the symbols facing a participant. The other blank side will face the telepath. With both participant and telepath seated, the telepath is to give the symbol and colour on each card in sequence from left to right. The participant is not to speak at any point during the demonstration but is to just look at the cards. For the demonstration to be successful the telepath is to have accurately described at least 5 of the symbols and colours in the correct sequence. This is to make sure the telepaths descriptions are better than a 50/50 chance.

I think this would show if the telepath has any telepathic ability. This would also work for a remote viewer, we just have the remote viewer looking at the blank side of the cards with no participant at the other side.

Everything is to varying degrees. Even conventional espionage methods have varying degrees of success and failure.

So how accurate were they if they are nowhere to be found? Or do you know of anyone who was in such a program?

LordReed:
Sure. We get 8 blank thick cards (to make sure what they are not transparent in any way), on one side we put the 4 card symbols (club, spade, diamond, heart). Each symbol will thus be on 2 cards each. Each symbol will be in a different colour, no colour is repeated. The cards placed upright on a table with the symbols facing a participant. The other blank side will face the telepath. With both participant and telepath seated, the telepath is to give the symbol and colour on each card in sequence from left to right. The participant is not to speak at any point during the demonstration but is to just look at the cards. For the demonstration to be successful the telepath is to have accurately described at least 5 of the symbols and colours in the correct sequence. This is to make sure the telepaths descriptions are better than a 50/50 chance.

I think this would show if the telepath has any telepathic ability. This would also work for a remote viewer, we just have the remote viewer looking at the blank side of the cards with no participant at the other side.



So how accurate were they if they are nowhere to be found? Or do you know of anyone who was in such a program?

Hi Reed. Hope you know this is DeepSight. I am using this account because of a ridiculous ban.
Any way your idea of cards cant really work.

I would like to discuss this subject more deeply.

Its far more profound than you think dear brother. I tell you.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
Hi Reed. Hope you know this is DeepSight. I am using this account because of a ridiculous ban.
Any way your idea of cards cant really work.

I would like to discuss this subject more deeply.

Its far more profound than you think dear brother. I tell you.

I guessed it was you.

Why won't it work? If psychics were supposedly successful in obtaining important information from half the world away why is trivial information from less than 10ft now a problem?

MrPresident1:
A thread built on a faulty premise leading to an unintelligent conclusion.
God exists: American is the best proof

The very breath of your nostrils is all the proof that you need to know, that, God is.

Lol. Another fallacy
How do you know the breath is proof of god?

plaetton:
Since the dawn of human history, Religious people have advanced all sorts of arguments to support the existence of whatever God or diety that they believe in.
In the the prescience era, their arguments carried a lot weight, mostly because proof or evidence was not a requirement.
In the modern scientific era however, goddists have struggled to explain the existence of their particular God in the face of numerous advances in knowledge about the universe, our Earth and biological life.

So these days, the Religious folks have to do quiet a lot of logical acrobatics, mostly absurd fallacies, to justify their faith.

On this particular forum, non believers have been asked several times to prove that God does not exist.

Well, even though it is the responsibility of the believers to show proof of the existence of God, the nation of Nigeria does make a compelling case ,in fact, absolute proof, that God does not exist.

This is a nation of 200m+ people who expend the most time and energy to worship and pray to God.

In my 50+ years of life, no single prayer has been answered in Nigeria and for Nigeria.

Despite our absurd fixation with religion and our religiosity, Nigeria can best be described as a God-forsaken nation.

When will it become conscious in our minds that whoever sold us this grand bogey, has left us holding the bag full of desert sand ?

How long shall we continue to carry this bag of desert sand ?

Cc: Deepsight

na di situation of the country na e also contribute to the cause of people turning to atheist in Nigeria. May God help us 🥺

Kingsempires:
na di situation of the country na e also contribute to the cause of people turning to atheist in Nigeria. May God help us 🥺

NO!
Wickedness deeply rooted in the hearts of unbelievers lead them to atheism.

Read what the Bible says again:


In his pride the wicked man does not seek God; in all his thoughts there is no room for God. ‭Psalms 10:4 NIV‬


They are using subtle appeals to woo the unsuspecting people but ask them if God is here what exactly do they expect Him to do about the situation and watch how the wickedness in their hearts will be exposed through their haughtiness.

@Deepsight

Pls find time to watch the above video about the newly unveiled Google Quantum chip.
It kind of dovetails to this particular discussion about relationship between neural electrical activity , information and consciousness.
Pls let me your take on event.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6w4SX7ZJMQ?si=elfFtwlAoR3DQDmb

Gone are those days of Religion crusades on Naira land,now life,marriage,career etc has happened to almost every Islam propagators like Abuzola,Uplawal,MaclaTunji,Jajilove etc😂😂😂

DeepSight:
If we put together the posts we did back then, we should have a veritable volume titled History, Theology and Philosophy: Selected Polemics.

Where are they all?

Mazaje, thehomer, viaro, nuclearboy, Huxley, Tudor, Banom, Krayola, Kay16, Enigma, Inesqor, KAG, Prizm, Toneyb, logicboy, Jesoul, Mnwankwo, Justcool, Martian, Pilgrim1 (alleged by some to be Viaro), Davidylan, Noetic16, even the Islamic renegade Abuzola.

Do you remember this thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/335826/pastor-aio-come-teach-us

God, I did so many threads "interviewing" posters here.

Apetebi1:
Gone are those days of Religion crusades on Naira land,now life,marriage,career etc has happened to almost every Islam propagators like Abuzola,Uplawal,MaclaTunji,Jajilove etc😂😂😂

Yes oh!

And Jarus too,life ehn,are there still people like them on Naira land anymore?

DeepSight:
Yes oh!