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Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 10:30pm On Jan 12, 2025
SIRTee15:
I'm not going to waste my time on Hebrew grammatical argument with U because none of us speak ancient Hebrew.

The word ehye is pronounced as YHWH. AND THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT JESUS SAID- I AM.
THE Septuagint Translates 'ehye to ego eimi'.
The original John manuscript wrote I am as ego eimi'.

3 evidences in your Bible proven your claim is faulty,
,
Oga, how is Hebrew Ehyeh pronounced at Exodus 3:12 in the Greek Septuagint?

Is Ehyeh translated "I Am" in Exodus 3:12?
No !
Ehyeh ("I will be"wink , screenshot evidence



New American Standard Bible, John 8:24
So Jesus said, “When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am, and I do nothing on My own, but I say these things as the Father instructed Me"

How come that Jesus your "I Am " takes instructions from another "I Am" his Father?

@John 8:24,28, Jesus Christ destroyed the delusion your Trinitarian mentors invented at John 8:58.
@ John 8:24,28 Jesus confirm that he is the Messiah
Is Luke 22:70 in your Bible?
"They all asked, “Are you then the Son
They all asked, “Are you then the Son of God?” He replied, “You say that I am."

@ Exodus 3:14 Greek Septuagint,is the divine name " I Am"?
No, NEVER!!!!
Hebrew language does not have present tense.

"Ego eimi ho on" - I am the Being ".
The Greek Septuagint reads: "Ho on (The Being) has sent me to you".


[b]Trinitarians : "I Am has sent me to you".
To claim that "I am" in Greek meaning "I am" in Hebrew is the same as saying "Olaniyi " in Yoruba meaning "Olaniyi" in Igbo.

What a deception!.

Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Image123(m): 6:44am On Jan 13, 2025
LordReed:
Excuse for what?
Excuse for not reading or accepting what he wrote about the global flood.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by LordReed(m): 8:11am On Jan 13, 2025
Image123:
Excuse for not reading or accepting what he wrote about the global flood.
LoLz. You must think I am like you who wouldn't read anything that contradicts your favourite Jewish storybook.

When I am done reading the article I will post a response.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by tctrills: 8:19am On Jan 13, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Well, the Bible says He was fully God. See below.
"Fully God" implies "fully all-knowing". No?
A few things here, remember, when Jesus Christ came to earth, he left his glory behind. He did not come to earth as God but as a man. Remember this verse?
John 17:5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Compare that to his statement after his resurrection
Matt 28.18
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Truthseeker10: 9:21am On Jan 13, 2025
Nachmonides:
Sucks, programming languages are better at conveying ideas of the Trinity.

I am not promising anything though. If I send I send, if I don't I don't.
gohf and steep come and see what Nachmonides is saying about what a person needs to understand Trinity oo. So a layman who does not understand programming languages cannot understand Trinity oo🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Nachmonides I gave you a simple sketch of the Trinity diagram that I found on the internet. You claim that it was not correct. Why can't you provide a simple sketch that explains the error. Is it that you don't also understand this Trinity concept?
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Image123(m): 9:34am On Jan 13, 2025
LordReed:
LoLz. You must think I am like you who wouldn't read anything that contradicts your favourite Jewish storybook.

When I am done reading the article I will post a response.
Very good. i actually studied(not just read) things that "contradict" my favorite Jewish storybook and have certificateS of excellence in it. What you refuse to remember is that most scientists, explorers, researchers and experts are theists.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by LordReed(m): 10:18am On Jan 13, 2025
Image123:
Very good. i actually studied(not just read) things that "contradict" my favorite Jewish storybook and have certificateS of excellence in it. What you refuse to remember is that most scientists, explorers, researchers and experts are theists.
Good, then you'll find my response very interesting because it certainly would contradict your storybook. I only hope you'll actually study it.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 10:22am On Jan 13, 2025
tctrills:
A few things here, remember, when Jesus Christ came to earth, he left his glory behind. He did not come to earth as God but as a man. Remember this verse?
John 17:5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Compare that to his statement after his resurrection
Matt 28.18
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Bible says he was fully God implying fully God all the time. My take-away is that God doesn't necessarily have to know everything al the time
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Nachmonides: 10:23am On Jan 13, 2025
Truthseeker10:
gohf and steep come and see what Nachmonides is saying about what a person needs to understand Trinity oo. So a layman who does not understand programming languages cannot understand Trinity oo🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Nachmonides I gave you a simple sketch of the Trinity diagram that I found on the internet. You claim that it was not correct. Why can't you provide a simple sketch that explains the error. Is it that you don't also understand this Trinity concept?
Haha. You think you did something here?

I don't know how to use UML to visualise it better, I can't simply draw things up because you asked me to.


I have to do a good job so there's no loopholes.
I have the code version of it written out. That's a tool I am well versed in.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Truthseeker10: 10:27am On Jan 13, 2025
Nachmonides:
Haha. You think you did something here?

I don't know how to use UML to visualise it better, I can't simply draw things up because you asked me to.


I have to do a good job so there's no loopholes.
I have the code version of it written out. That's a tool I am well versed in.
Steep do you agree with Nachmonides that the Trinity diagram that we've been discussing about has a wrong interpretation?

Nachmonides kindly write out a code version of the Trinity for us to see.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Nachmonides: 10:30am On Jan 13, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Steep do you agree with Nachmonides that the Trinity diagram that we've been discussing about has a wrong interpretation?

Nachmonides kindly write out a code version of the Trinity for us to see.
You know what?—I'm not posting a code version anymore.

Go study your bible.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Nachmonides: 10:31am On Jan 13, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Steep do you agree with Nachmonides that the Trinity diagram that we've been discussing about has a wrong interpretation?

Nachmonides kindly write out a code version of the Trinity for us to see.
Haha, did I ever tell you it had a wrong interpretation?
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Truthseeker10: 10:33am On Jan 13, 2025
Nachmonides:
You know what?—I'm not posting a code version anymore.

Go study your bible.
🤣🤣🤣🤣.....I should go and study what you can't explain? You people that believe in trinity are so funny. You don't even understand this trinity concept and you want to teach what you don't understand to others? How is that Even possible. No wonder all of you here are just contradicting yourselves? I brought up one simple diagram and all of you cannot Even agree on the interpretation of the diagram. Funny people.🤣🤣🤣
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Nachmonides: 10:34am On Jan 13, 2025
Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣🤣.....I should go and study what you can't explain? You believe are trinity are so funny. You don't even understand this trinity concept and you want to teach what you don't understand to others? How is that Even possible. No wonder all of you here are just contradicting yourselves? I brought up one simple diagram and all of you cannot Even agree on the interpretation of the diagram. Funny people.🤣🤣🤣
Alright, Sir.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by tctrills: 11:34am On Jan 13, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Bible says he was fully God implying fully God all the time. My take-away is that God doesn't necessarily have to know everything al the time
I can't remember the bible use the word fully God at all times. Please direct me to the passage.
From the 2 verses I presented, it's clear that Jesus Christ did not come to earth with his full glory and that after his resurrection, all power was given to him. But then, you are right, being God doesn't mean knowing everything at all times. Jesus Christ is prove of that.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by gohf: 11:59am On Jan 13, 2025
Truthseeker10:
gohf and steep come and see what Nachmonides is saying about what a person needs to understand Trinity oo. So a layman who does not understand programming languages cannot understand Trinity oo🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Nachmonides I gave you a simple sketch of the Trinity diagram that I found on the internet. You claim that it was not correct. Why can't you provide a simple sketch that explains the error. Is it that you don't also understand this Trinity concept?
when last did I study or have anything do with programming 😀 but I can't say it has anything to do with programming but if nachmonides wants to use the logic behind it to show trinity I have already stated that his logic is false because even a compute might blow up after programming that the word was with God and the word was God therefore the word is God. It will break the basic logic circuits expect one purposely programs that to be the output, then that's a manipulated logic not based on standard logic.

For example saying God is greater than Jesus so therefore Jesus is equal to God.

I look forward to his response, please tag me when he does
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Truthseeker10: 12:21pm On Jan 13, 2025
gohf:
when last did I study or have anything do with programming 😀 but I can't say it has anything to do with programming but if nachmonides wants to use the logic behind it to show trinity I have already stated that his logic is false because even a compute might blow up after programming that the word was with God and the word was God therefore the word is God. It will break the basic logic circuits expect one purposely programs that to be the output, then that's a manipulated logic not based on standard logic.

For example saying God is greater than Jesus so therefore Jesus is equal to God.

I look forward to his response, please tag me when he does
I have been begging Nachmonides to present the codes of trinity but he has refused. It seems that he does not understand it as well. How can someone teach what he does not understand?
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by gohf: 12:24pm On Jan 13, 2025
Truthseeker10:
I have been begging Nachmonides to present the codes of trinity but he has refused. It seems that he does not understand it as well. How can someone teach what he does not understand?
we may end up in a never ending deceptive wait like he the responses he claimed he was going to give but on the positive side, it may not be an easy program to run and the app may be having issues now.

So let's wait he may succeed in manufacturing what we know to be a lie 😂
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Truthseeker10: 12:40pm On Jan 13, 2025
gohf:
we may end up in a never ending deceptive wait like he the responses he claimed he was going to give but on the positive side, it may not be an easy program to run and the app may be having issues now.

So let's wait he may succeed in manufacturing what we know to be a lie 😂
.
🤣🤣🤣🤣so let's be patient with him. Nachmonides we are waiting oo.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f):
tctrills:
I can't remember the bible use the word fully God at all times. Please direct me to the passage.
From the 2 verses I presented, it's clear that Jesus Christ did not come to earth with his full glory and that after his resurrection, all power was given to him. But then, you are right, being God doesn't mean knowing everything at all times. Jesus Christ is prove of that.
But it is implied all over the Bible and Christ talked and acted like God - EXCEPT when he said only God was good, when he said only God knew date of second coming, and at crucifixion when he asked God why he had forsaken him
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 1:53pm On Jan 13, 2025
Janosky:

3 evidences in your Bible proven your claim is faulty,
,
Oga, how is Hebrew Ehyeh pronounced at Exodus 3:12 in the Greek Septuagint?

Is Ehyeh translated "I Am" in Exodus 3:12?
No !
Ehyeh ("I will be"wink , screenshot evidence



New American Standard Bible, John 8:24
So Jesus said, “When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am, and I do nothing on My own, but I say these things as the Father instructed Me"

How come that Jesus your "I Am " takes instructions from another "I Am" his Father?

@John 8:24,28, Jesus Christ destroyed the delusion your Trinitarian mentors invented at John 8:58.
@ John 8:24,28 Jesus confirm that he is the Messiah
Is Luke 22:70 in your Bible?
"They all asked, “Are you then the Son
They all asked, “Are you then the Son of God?” He replied, “You say that I am."

@ Exodus 3:14 Greek Septuagint,is the divine name " I Am"?
No, NEVER!!!!
Hebrew language does not have present tense.

"Ego eimi ho on" - I am the Being ".
The Greek Septuagint reads: "Ho on (The Being) has sent me to you".


[b]Trinitarians : "I Am has sent me to you".
To claim that "I am" in Greek meaning "I am" in Hebrew is the same as saying "Olaniyi " in Yoruba meaning "Olaniyi" in Igbo.

What a deception!.
But you JW's sef. You are Johavah's Witnesses yet you are implying the same Jehovah is POWERLESS and of no effect, in that he hasn't been able to stop another being worshipped with him and as him for thousands of years!
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:07pm On Jan 13, 2025
DaddyCoool:
But you JW's sef. You are Johavah's Witnesses yet you are implying the same Jehovah is POWERLESS and of no effect, in that he hasn't been able to stop another being worshipped with him and as him for thousands of years!
Jehovah has glorified His holy name and will surely glofy it again {John 12:23} but He is not in a rush to do so like thoughtless humans would have done.
He knew that billions are worshiping Satan UNKNOWINGLY that's why He is calling them to repentance not that He is slow in His judgement. 2Peter 3:8

We are going to enjoy everlasting life on this planet when all evildoers are wiped out {Psalms 37:9-11} but then we must prove ourselves worthy of this blessings by searching for peace lovers no matter where they may be found {Luke 10:6} and teach them {Matthew 28:20} all they need to know about Jehovah and His promises regarding the future of obedient mankind! Jeremiah 29:11
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 2:45pm On Jan 13, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Jehovah has glorified His holy name and will surely glofy it again {John 12:23} but He is not in a rush to do so like thoughtless humans would have done.
He knew that billions are worshiping Satan UNKNOWINGLY that's why He is calling them to repentance not that He is slow in His judgement. 2Peter 3:8

We are going to enjoy everlasting life on this planet when all evildoers are wiped out {Psalms 37:9-11} but then we must prove ourselves worthy of this blessings by searching for peace lovers no matter where they may be found {Luke 10:6} and teach them {Matthew 28:20} all they need to know about Jehovah and His promises regarding the future of obedient mankind! Jeremiah 29:11
You must be talking of a different Jehovah then, because Jehovah of OT didn't allow anybody worshiped with him and as him even for a month
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 3:35pm On Jan 13, 2025
DaddyCoool:
But you JW's sef. You are Johavah's Witnesses yet you are implying the same Jehovah is POWERLESS and of no effect,

You are the one making that claim, JW's never implied that at any time.

Madam,You are drawing attention away from the true position of Greek Septuagint of Exodus 3:12-14 which exposed the FALSE claims of SirTee15.
Ehyeh is "I will be" @ Exodus 3:12 Greek Septuagint and should not change @ Exodus 3:14 Greek Septuagint.
Further, Exodus 3:14 "ho on (the BEING) has sent me to you".

Trinitarians: "I Am has sent me to you."
grin grin grin
Madam,Check the Septuagint screenshot evidence.


DaddyCoool:
in that he hasn't been able to stop another being worshipped with him and as him for thousands of years!

Madam,Did Jehovah God stop Satan from disobedience?
Jehovah God has standard His servants must stick to.
Matthew 4:10 is the standard.

Matthew 4:10 is the instruction of Jehovah God gave to Jesus His son:
"Then Yeshua said to him, “Depart Satan, for it is written: 'You shall worship THE LORD JEHOVAH your God and him alone shall you serve."

If you choose to follow Trinitarians to ADD another being to worship alongside Jehovah, just realize that you have broken the Jehovah's instructions of Matthew 4:10.
Therefore, you are on your own.
Check the screenshot evidence .

Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 3:36pm On Jan 13, 2025
DaddyCoool:
But you JW's sef. You are Johavah's Witnesses yet you are implying the same Jehovah is POWERLESS and of no effect,

You are the one making that claim, JW's never implied that at any time.

Madam,You are drawing attention away from the true position of Greek Septuagint of Exodus 3:12-14 which exposed the FALSE claims of SirTee15.
Ehyeh is "I will be" @ Exodus 3:12 Greek Septuagint and should not change @ Exodus 3:14 Greek Septuagint.
Further, Exodus 3:14 "ho on (the BEING) has sent me to you". (True)

Trinitarians: "I Am has sent me to you." (Lies)
grin grin grin
Madam,Check the Septuagint screenshot evidence.


DaddyCoool:
in that he hasn't been able to stop another being worshipped with him and as him for thousands of years!

Madam,Did Jehovah God stop Satan from disobedience?
Jehovah God has standard His servants must stick to.
Matthew 4:10 is the standard.

Matthew 4:10 is the instruction of Jehovah God gave to Jesus His son:
"Then Yeshua said to him, “Depart Satan, for it is written: 'You shall worship THE LORD JEHOVAH your God and him alone shall you serve."

If you choose to follow Trinitarians to ADD another being to worship alongside Jehovah, just realize that you have broken the Jehovah's instructions of Matthew 4:10.
Therefore, you are on your own.
Check the screenshot evidence .

Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 3:41pm On Jan 13, 2025
Janosky:

You are the one making that claim, JW's never implied that at any time.

Madam,You are drawing attention away from the true position of Greek Septuagint of Exodus 3:12-14 which exposed the FALSE claims of SirTee15.
Ehyeh is "I will be" @ Exodus 3:12 Greek Septuagint and should not change @ Exodus 3:14 Greek Septuagint.
Further, Exodus 3:14 "ho on (the BEING) has sent me to you". (True)

Trinitarians: "I Am has sent me to you." (Lies)
grin grin grin
Madam,Check the Septuagint screenshot evidence.




Madam,Did Jehovah God stop Satan from disobedience?
Jehovah God has standard His servants must stick to.
Matthew 4:10 is the standard.

Matthew 4:10 is the instruction of Jehovah God gave to Jesus His son:
"Then Yeshua said to him, “Depart Satan, for it is written: 'You shall worship THE LORD JEHOVAH your God and him alone shall you serve."

If you choose to follow Trinitarians to ADD another being to worship alongside Jehovah, just realize that you have broken the Jehovah's instructions of Matthew 4:10.
Therefore, you are on your own.
Check the screenshot evidence .
School us.
Mention one instance in OT where Jehovah allowed anybody to be worshiped with him and as him even for a month.
Unless you're talking of a different Jehovah
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 3:44pm On Jan 13, 2025
DaddyCoool:
You must be talking of a different Jehovah then, because Jehovah of OT didn't allow anybody worshiped with him and as him even for a month

Jehovah God of the old testament is the same God that Jesus Christ is worshipping.
Matthew 4:10 is the instruction of Jehovah God gave to Jesus His son:
"Then Yeshua said to him, “Depart Satan, for it is written: 'You shall worship THE LORD JEHOVAH your God and him alone shall you serve."


Jesus copied Matthew 4:10 from Deuteronomy 6:13.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:49pm On Jan 13, 2025
DaddyCoool:
You must be talking of a different Jehovah then, because Jehovah of OT didn't allow anybody worshiped with him and as him even for a month
Can you expatiate on the highlighted?
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 3:49pm On Jan 13, 2025
Janosky:

Jehovah God of the old testament is the same God that Jesus Christ is worshipping.
Matthew 4:10 is the instruction of Jehovah God gave to Jesus His son:
"Then Yeshua said to him, “Depart Satan, for it is written: 'You shall worship THE LORD JEHOVAH your God and him alone shall you serve."


Jesus copied Matthew 4:10 from Deuteronomy 6:13.
MaxInDHouse:
Can you expatiate on the highlighted?
School us.
Mention one instance in OT where Jehovah allowed anybody to be worshiped with him and as him even for a month.
Unless you're talking of a different Jehovah
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 3:53pm On Jan 13, 2025
DaddyCoool:
School us.
Mention one instance in OT where Jehovah allowed anybody to be worshiped with him and as him even for a month.
Unless you're talking of a different Jehovah
Jehovah God did NOT allow that.
Deuteronomy 6:13 & Matthew 4:10 is proof.
That is my point.


Trinitarians choose to ADD another being to worship alongside Jehovah, just realize that they have broken Jehovah's instructions of Matthew 4:10.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:54pm On Jan 13, 2025
DaddyCoool:
School us.
Mention one instance in OT where Jehovah allowed anybody to be worshiped with him and as him even for a month.
Unless you're talking of a different Jehovah
Why sending prophets to warn idolaters in ancient Israel if Jehovah is different today?
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:10pm On Jan 13, 2025
Janosky:
Jehovah God did NOT allow that.
Deuteronomy 6:13 & Matthew 4:10 is proof. That is my point.

Trinitarians choose to ADD another being to worship alongside Jehovah, just realize that they have broken Jehovah's instructions of Matthew 4:10.
He thought because Jehovah gave Israel strict rules where defaulters face instant punishment the same should happen today if it's the same God.

If we go and meet them in their homes to enlighten them about God's Kingdom they will say they are born again, they are believers already but now that their faith seems dying they feel everybody is in the same mess with them.

How can you expect Jehovah who said He is no longer interested in any human government to establish justice now?
If He will always deal with defaulters what is His Kingdom coming to establish?
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