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| The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by MightySparrow(op): 8:25am On Jan 14, 2025 |
The imbalance in Yoruba history was founded by the Oyo people. Samuel Johnson wrote a history that was was biased, based on falsehood. His agenda as an Oyo man was to claim superiority over other children of Oduduwa. The ways and manners he presented the Ekitis and Ijebus and ijeshas even Oòni are both degrading and different from the histories of these peoples themselves. His inaccurate history creates loopholes that makes attacks on the authentic history possible. In the olden days when education was scarce and educated people were scanty, the few educated were adored by their natives and a beacon of light to the colonialists. Rev. Johnson, an Oyo man tried to write a compendium of history the children of Oduduwa. Before the colonization, the people groups in today's 'Yoruba' race were not having a common name than olùkùmi, my friend. The Ekitis, Egbaa Ijebus, Ondos etc all migrated from Ile Ifẹ, and settled wherever they are found today. They all took along language (which later developed to dialects), religion and culture and other things that show common source. With the passage of time these people established themselves as a dominant force in the south of Sahara. Revrend Samuel Johnson, edited and or embellished his brother's manuscripts, like Aaron and the calf, came about a strange beginning of Oduduwa and Lamurudu, Mecca and or Sudan story. The claim of Oduduwa migration from Mecca is not substantiated by meccans neither has any reasonable historical evidence in Ife history. While he claimed that a Bible passage is hidden in Iledi in the palace of Oòni, other source says it was quranic passage. None of these have any evidence. The so to say affiliation with the Gogobiri is not substantiated by the tribe either. The history of the people are seemingly not related with the children of Oduduwa. The unfounded rivalry between Oòni and Alaafin and the jabs from Bini Kingdom over the ownership of Oduduwa are few of the damages of the Òyó people on the children of Oduduwa. The Oyo people also by Samuel Àjàyí Crowther, earned the children of Oduduwa a derogatory name Yoruba. Yoruba was giving to Oyo traders by Fulanis because of their trickery. This name was rejected by many tribes until it was made official by the British colonial government. When Henry Townsend began his newspaper, it was known as the Iwe Irohin egba and Yorubas. The name did not go well with other children of Oduduwa. There were rebuttals and rejections from scholars of the day when Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther imposed the name on the test, especially, following his translation of the Christian scriptures. The oyos broke the covenant of brothers when they began to fight their brothers against the pact at It's Ajero, in ile ìfẹ. Before the dispersal of the children of Oduduwa, ìta Ajere was a place of discussion among the children of Oduduwa. The same place still exists today. It was there, they had agreement not to lift weapons against themselves , this pact was in force until the arrival Oyo people and the began terrorizing their brothers who lived peacefully in their domains. This eventually ended with the resistance from Ekiti in a harrowing sixteen - year war in which reverend J. B. Cook was the arbiter in the Ibadan /Ekiti parapò war.. Today, the children of Oduduwa bear a derogatory name, the mispresentation of the origin of Oduduwa is a tussle between Bini Kingdom and Ife, not to talk of the whole city of Ilorin becoming an annex of Sokoto caliphate. The damage done by the Òyósare today not easily redeemable. |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by helinues: 8:27am On Jan 14, 2025 |
Summary of your epistle please |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by MightySparrow(op): 8:27am On Jan 14, 2025 |
helinues:The summary is the topic |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by helinues: 8:28am On Jan 14, 2025 |
MightySparrow:And where is the topic? |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by MightySparrow(op): 8:29am On Jan 14, 2025 |
helinues:The damage done by oyos to the other children of Oduduwa |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by helinues: 8:31am On Jan 14, 2025 |
MightySparrow:Oh.. Oduduwa of which century? We no dey live for past in South West that's why we are always ahead. Your story is good for movies though, you should contact one of the Nollywood movie producers |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by helinues: 8:38am On Jan 14, 2025 |
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| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by helinues: 8:49am On Jan 14, 2025 |
AsueEkoto:Answer my question, would you keep records of tree humping nakedly? |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by Softmirror: 8:51am On Jan 14, 2025 |
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| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by sreamsense: 8:52am On Jan 14, 2025 |
MightySparrow:Which of the story did your family rewrite that can replace the authentic story we have on ground? You are frustrated because Oyo Alaafin King is a christian, then you begin to look for way to degrade him? We know people like you with Saudi load for head that make you think irrationally. Go and prostrate to your king |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by MightySparrow(op): 9:02am On Jan 14, 2025 |
sreamsense:Download the pdf the History of Yorubas by Samuel Johnson and read the earlier parts. Judge by what you read. Who cares about Alaafin and his religion? Is he the first Christian Alaafin? |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by Zooposki(f): 9:10am On Jan 14, 2025 |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by helinues: 9:10am On Jan 14, 2025 |
AsueEkoto:Hahahaha, Iyawo Baale can only la tom tom |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by Xisnin(m): 9:25am On Jan 14, 2025*. Modified: 8:19pm On Jan 15, 2025 |
I doubt if the OP has read Samuel Johnson's work. Johnson did not do any damage. He reported fables as he was told by royal historians and then wrongly though expectedly try to link them to Jewish and Arab myths as a believer himself. He didn't even restrict himself to the "Oyo" versions only, he collected different origin myths from different sources. As to the Yoruba name, it was never rejected because of its origin or meaning in any part of Yoruba land. Cite any reputable source if you disagree. In fact, even the Oyo that you blame did not address itself as Yoruba until the age of westernized writing arrived and the writers decided to adopt the word. BTW, Yoruba does not mean trickery. By making this claim without evidence, you are engaging in assumptive retroactive interpretation of which you accuse Johnson of doing. It is when you lack knowledge of an historical issue and then look for something familiar or vaguely congruent in the present to explain it without any concrete evidence. You also forgot that without the "damage" caused by the Oyo, 90% of Yoruba land would have been shared between the Edo and Nupe kings. Also, you wrote about a mythical "pact" and the "arrival of Oyo". Where did they arrive from? Outer space? If you had taken your time to learn about early Yoruba people migration dispersal, you would know it is steeped in conflict. Which is a normal event observed among evolving group. It is thanks to the Oyo "damage", that Yoruba got somewhat unified and standardized. Without it, we will be grappling with hundreds of sub-groups claiming origin from Sudan, or wherever they fancy because they would have had no shared history in living memory. Stop relying on emotional internet warriors or one source as absolute history. |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by helinues: 9:38am On Jan 14, 2025 |
Xisnin:Bro you no try oo, na on top a troller you dey write all this? Handle them in their own language... |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by Dindondin: 9:41am On Jan 14, 2025 |
Saved space |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by MightySparrow(op): 9:42am On Jan 14, 2025 |
sreamsense:Download the PDF and read , The history of yoeubas. You will see bias. Anyway which other Yoruba aubgrouos accepts Alaafin as their leader? |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by Tinubuadvocate: 9:53am On Jan 14, 2025 |
God bless this writer. I have said it before that OYO greediness caused many problems to Yoruba land.This greediness was why a fulani take full control of ilorin till today. |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by Dindondin: 10:02am On Jan 14, 2025 |
MightySparrow:The world hasn't ended and more research are to be done to discover more facts. Read that part I posted again. I v added some stuffs and modified for future readers. |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by Dindondin: 10:05am On Jan 14, 2025 |
Tinubuadvocate:Fact. The most agonizing one was the failure of unity btw Oluewu and Atiba. If you read Samuel Johnson's book, he explained clearly how Alaafin Oluewu was focusing on rivalling with Atiba while he was in middle of war with Ilorin. Maybe Atiba too was a pompous lad we don't know. But national building involves shelving personal grudges and working together as one like a bunch of broom. When I get time, screenshot of that part in history and YouTube links will be posted here. |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by Dindondin: 10:07am On Jan 14, 2025 |
sreamsense:Does this have religious inclination again? Abeg provide some proofs. God save Yoruba people from religious slavery instead of building national unity of their country as first priority. Then anyone can practice what they liked. World of today is too polarized to bring in back door religious law. It will end in total destruction and only survival of the fittest will stand. |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by MightySparrow(op): 11:52am On Jan 14, 2025 |
Dindondin:Thanks so much Sir for your contributions. I have read some history text and my quest to see the verity of Benin' s claim over the origin of Oduduwa led me to question these conclusions. My criticism of Samuel Johnson's bias of other tribes is one that concerns my own town we. There was a woman Ademuregun,a beautiful woman, who befriended three kings one after the other. Somehow, by a stroke of luck, she had three boys, each for each king. Later in life, the three princes, became kings around the same time. These were Alara, Ajero and Orangun of Ila. Though, these three were siblings, two in Ekiti and one in igbomina. The story is true from the two accounts I read from two sides. Also, in the saying of the elders, when you hear Olugbon, Arẹsà, Oníkòyí same is Alára, Ajero, oragun. For someone to say there is no relationship when even now, the dynasties in these towns till now. |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by Idiko1: 12:14pm On Jan 14, 2025 |
Twisted historical jargon. At best, Ooni was a shrine keeper. |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by Dindondin: 1:32pm On Jan 14, 2025 |
Idiko1:Fact he was a shrine keeper. Let's say he did a good job and nature rewarded him. All. thanks to Oranmiyan's adventurous spirit because na him ni stay at home. If you read history of Yorubas you will see when Oranmiyan left Ife to found Oyo. He has first gone on Bini mission and possibly returned to Ife. Or should we blame it on Oduduwa who didn't put in a different successor and settle Oranmiyan with other parts of the land. But looking forward, if Oranmiyan wasn't a conqueror, Yorubaland proper no go big pass Ife town in Osun State. |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by Dindondin: 1:35pm On Jan 14, 2025 |
MightySparrow:That Ajero, Akara, Olugbon, Orangun, Areas story is for another time. But there is a lesson here. How can a woman hop bed of 3 different kings? Was it when they were alive or they died at different times or she was just divorcing them despite knowing that philandering was rare and a taboo at that time of history. If it dey occur na coded and not synonymous with a queen. This is what young girls of present age do. Fvck around like no tomorrow. So then get role model from ancient times. MightySparrow:MightySparrow when you write history, you write by giving logical reasoning and evidence. Go and change the title of this post. It's misleading. Samuel Johnson wrote the book based on his understanding. If not for him, there won't be a chronological concrete account of most Yorubas. Give him his dues. |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by Lifestone(m): 1:56pm On Jan 14, 2025 |
MightySparrow:So what's your alternative fact. Johnson did his best without whom, Yorubas would not have had any written history as early as he wrote. No civilization evolution is perfect. The question now is what is the present generation doing. Are we writing current history? So much questions for you and me as Yoruba |
| Re: The Damage Oyo People Did To The Other Children Of Oduduwa by christistruth01: 3:47pm On Jan 14, 2025 |
Rev Samuel Johnson wrote the History of the Yorubas with nothing but good intentions for the entire Yoruba race Rev Samuel Johnson was a CMS Pastor at Oyo and the most available Historians to him were the Alaafin Palace Historians and a widely Travelled Ijebu Trader who knew much Yoruba History also helped him Rev Samuel Johnson stated these facts very clearly at the beginning of the book and didn't hide it Rev Samuel Johnson wrote the History of the Yorubas to the best of his ability using what was available to him. It took him 21 years to write the book and he died before his brother Obadiah finally managed to get it Published He didn't stop others from writing their own versions or making their own corrections by publishing their own work |
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