₦airaland Forum

IfnobeGod20:
Who are the Indigenous People of Bitterland because as far as Nigeria configuration is, there is no such group?

Put the acronym together. If you still can't decipher call any nursery 2 pupil they will help U out.

IfnobeGod20:
Give reasons. It will take a lot of maneuvering for those 27 lawmakers fingers not to be burnt., as they have to prove beyond doubt that they didn't defect to APC. They have to prove that they didn't sworn affidavit that they have defected and in their affidavit they told the court not to allow INEC to conduct by elections to replace them and also ask PDP and the Rivers House of Assembly not to declare their seats vacant.
Except you wish to tell the world that people can go to court and obtain an affidavit that they don't need and say words that are not true to deceive the court. If you can claim that, then, that is another case of perjury, which attracts jail term.
Have you sat to ask yourself this millennium question. Why do they go back to court to go and withdrew the said affidavit late last year after such affidavit has become a concern for their defection? Their lawyers must have weighed the import of the affidavit and see how damaging the affidavit must have been to their case. Buy you know one thing in law, you cannot aprobate and reprobate at the same time. The cause of action has been done and cannot be redone when a case as been filled and all documents tendered at the law court. The only thing they can do is to ask for out of court settlement but cannot undo what has been filled for long.

Well detailed.
But the said 27 law makers never sworn that they have defected. Just verbal defection.
Let us keep our fingers crossed and Watch.

Oghene86:
The supreme Court will stand with their own, which is Mary Odilli, Even Tinubu would not be able to help him when the time comes.

He who plays the Piper dictate the tone.

Finquas:
PDP is gradually taking back their party from political vultures... Wike should better port fully to his self ascribed Cancer party APC before he will be Awuke(D) ... No time

The Governor is also positioning Emeka Bekee and his people in the APC waiting for Wike.

Ojuntana:
But does a state court have jurisdiction over PDP?

yes... over pdp state executive

yarimo:
how many times will federal high told rivers state high court has no jurisdiction over that matter or you are just giving free bonus data to read news today. Don't bother replying please

The legal issues involving state party executives and the Rivers State Assembly should typically fall under the jurisdiction of the State High Court, provided they pertain to, Internal Party Matters: Issues such as leadership disputes within a political party, especially when related to activities or actions within the state, are generally considered state specific. They should be addressed by the State High Court unless they involve constitutional questions or affect federal statutes.

State Assembly Disputes: Matters involving the Rivers State House of Assembly—such as legislative disputes, membership issues, or procedural questions—are also within the State High Court's jurisdiction, unless they have federal implications, like violations of the Nigerian Constitution that may invoke the Federal High Court.

However, there are exceptions to consider: If the case involves fundamental rights (e.g., breach of rights enshrined in the Constitution), the matter could escalate to the Federal High Court under its exclusive jurisdiction for constitutional matters.
If the dispute involves the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) or interpretation of federal laws, the Federal High Court might also have jurisdiction.
In essence:

State High Court: For purely state matters like party disputes and legislative issues within Rivers State.
Federal High Court: If the matter crosses into constitutional or federal statutory territory, such as involving INEC or federal agencies.

gare:
You seem to believe that only judgments from the High Courts in Abuja are genuine. However, it’s important to note that all cases that have reached the Appeal Court have strongly upheld the issue of jurisdiction. Before making comments on matters beyond your understanding, I suggest you take the time to review the jurisdictional authority of these courts. As it stands, FCT High Courts do not have the authority to hear cases originating from Rivers State.

Sharapova dere. Only Appeal court can stop the Congress as it stands and not a state High court.

In my quote, I was ranking about a higher court court and not courts in Abuja.

We have Appeal court too in Rivers state. Why is Fubara only using the state High court.

The judgement cannot be obeyed except one from a higher court that's Appeal court and supreme Court

yarimo:
how many times will federal high told rivers state high court has no jurisdiction over that matter or you are just giving free bonus data to read news today. Don't bother replying please

It's important to address these matters calmly and with clarity. To clarify for those who might be misinformed, the judgment that barred APC from contesting the 2019 Rivers State elections came from a State High Court, specifically related to the party's internal primary disputes. This illustrates that State High Courts do have jurisdiction over certain matters, particularly when they pertain to the internal affairs of state branches of political parties.

For anyone attempting to argue otherwise, it would be helpful for them to understand the distinction between State High Courts and Federal High Courts, as well as the principle of jurisdiction that determines which court hears what matter. The truth is, legal education isn't about assumptions; it’s about understanding precedents, statutes, and constitutional provisions.

Hopefully, those who are misinformed will take the time to educate themselves before making arguments that don’t align with the law or historical facts. This isn't about bitterness but about adhering to the rule of law and respecting proper judicial processes.

Cherrybae:
Instead of Fubara to be shopping for judgement in High courts, he kept using the Rivers state High court.

Imagine how Ipob and obedients rejoice over a judgement that won't even stand.

Recall that Federal High Court ordered a go ahead with the Congress.

Rather than Fubara to secure Appeal court ruling stopping it, he still ran to the Rivers state High court.

To be Honest, Fubara won't survive this fight.

Time will tell and by the time the fight gets tougher, all those supporting him will all abandon him.

As far as I'm concerned, the judgement is Null, void and worthless

When you're olodo, you're one for real.
The question you should have asked or may be you asked but because of your ignorance to law, you feigned ignorance.
Look at these details critically.
1. No matter how stupid a court order is, all parties involved must obey it. For the avoidance of doubt, read what the supreme court said on disobedience to court order.
"The Court cited their disobedience to a Court order and it went on to the Appeal Court and the Supreme Court concurred and barred all Rivers APC aspirants from participating in the 2019 General elections.
Walter Onnoghen, then CJN held that the APC's desire to proceed with the Congresses despite a Court order was "condemnable, egregious and preposterous.”
This was nearly case from the same state. And gladly it was the same SHC that gave the order to APC then and they disobeyed it and that cost them not to have candidates for the 2019 general elections.
2. There was an existing order from the SHC that PDP suppose to appeal but they preferred to go shopping for another order from a court of coordinate jurisdiction. On the 16th July, 2024 a SHC gave an order that a congress should not be conducted https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/714402-court-bars-pdp-from-conducting-congress-in-rivers.html&ved=2ahUKEwiAyffN3_SKAxVDUUEAHWxfMxsQFnoECCIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3ZnRG8BK4oB9vj_Tg4Bh8Q
and instead to obey it, the PDP went to another court, FHC to be precised to go and shop for another order that gave them go ahead to conduct the congress on the 24th July, 2024
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://punchng.com/court-okays-rivers-pdp-congresses/&ved=2ahUKEwjQoaGa4PSKAxVgRUEAHZX2CY4QFnoECBgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2sf3-__JYiPVpeSHAztbxk.
On the 27th July, the same court reissue the order
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/07/27/court-stops-pdp-others-from-conducting-party-congress-in-rivers/&ved=2ahUKEwjQoaGa4PSKAxVgRUEAHZX2CY4QFnoECCwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1LcYNIc6jEuvu8Km4c3jqY

The same 27th July, 2024, the PDP went to conduct the congress even after a court reissued the order.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/07/pdp-shuns-court-order-holds-congresses-in-rivers/&ved=2ahUKEwjQoaGa4PSKAxVgRUEAHZX2CY4QFnoECC0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2lYZVODO919R8j7ROa23cX

The reasonable question a normal human should have asked.
i. Which order first came?
ii. Why didn't PDP appeal the order from the SHC instead of going to shop for another?
iii. Why was PDP so anxious to do the congress without doing due diligence on all court orders to safe them the day?

The same order they are taken for granted and even you was the same order from the same court thy caused APC not to have candidates to field in the year 2019.

My brother, no matter how stupid an order is, it must be obeyed to the last letter. The worst is to appeal it and vacate it but trying to play smart on it, will cause you to be burnt.

Cherrybae:
Sharapova dere. Only Appeal court can stop the Congress as it stands and not a state High court.

In my quote, I was ranking about a higher court court and not courts in Abuja.

We have Appeal court too in Rivers state. Why is Fubara only using the state High court.

The judgement cannot be obeyed except one from a higher court that's Appeal court and supreme Court

It's important to address these matters calmly and with clarity. To clarify for those who might be misinformed, the judgment that barred APC from contesting the 2019 Rivers State elections came from a State High Court, specifically related to the party's internal primary disputes. This illustrates that State High Courts do have jurisdiction over certain matters, particularly when they pertain to the internal affairs of state branches of political parties.

For anyone attempting to argue otherwise, it would be helpful for them to understand the distinction between State High Courts and Federal High Courts, as well as the principle of jurisdiction that determines which court hears what matter. The truth is, legal education isn't about assumptions; it’s about understanding precedents, statutes, and constitutional provisions.

Hopefully, those who are misinformed will take the time to educate themselves before making arguments that don’t align with the law or historical facts. This isn't about bitterness but about adhering to the rule of law and respecting proper judicial processes.

Gandrova:
For most of you guys expecting Wike to fall in River State, kindly rethink there is no how the supreme court would validate Fubara's case !

The courts are tired of WIKE(D)

gare:
It's important to address these matters calmly and with clarity. To clarify for those who might be misinformed, the judgment that barred APC from contesting the 2019 Rivers State elections came from a State High Court, specifically related to the party's internal primary disputes. This illustrates that State High Courts do have jurisdiction over certain matters, particularly when they pertain to the internal affairs of state branches of political parties.

For anyone attempting to argue otherwise, it would be helpful for them to understand the distinction between State High Courts and Federal High Courts, as well as the principle of jurisdiction that determines which court hears what matter. The truth is, legal education isn't about assumptions; it’s about understanding precedents, statutes, and constitutional provisions.

Hopefully, those who are misinformed will take the time to educate themselves before making arguments that don’t align with the law or historical facts. This isn't about bitterness but about adhering to the rule of law and respecting proper judicial processes.

When the Federal High Court ruled that the PDP Congress should go ahead, was it appealed if you say its the state High court that only have the jurisdiction to entertain such matter.

Why didn't Fubara approach the Appeal court to override the Federal High Court order.

Stop misinformed the public. We all know you are pro Fubara and will say things to suit your gullible ipob and obedients

Gandrova:
Well detailed.
But the said 27 law makers never sworn that they have defected. Just verbal defection.
Let us keep our fingers crossed and Watch.

They did. They said they defected because of an issue in PDP. They anchored it on the issue of secretary tussle in the PDP.
They are unwise fellow. How would learned people like them allowed themselves to be used by just one person? How would an issue of just one post in a party cause a faction? They are unwise.

IfnobeGod20:
When you're olodo, you're one for real.
The question you should have asked or may be you asked but because of your ignorance to law, you feigned ignorance.
Look at these details critically.
1. No matter how stupid a court order his, all parties involved must obey it. For the avoidance of doubt, read what the supreme court said on disobedience to court order.
"The Court cited their disobedience to a Court order and it went on to the Appeal Court and the Supreme Court concurred and barred all Rivers APC aspirants from participating in the 2019 General elections.
Walter Onnoghen, then CJN held that the APC's desire to proceed with the Congresses despite a Court order was "condemnable, egregious and preposterous.”
This was nearly case from the same state. And gladly it was the same SHC that gave the order to APC then and they disobeyed it and that cost them not to have candidates for the 2019 general elections.
2. There was an existing order from the SHC that PDP suppose to appeal but they preferred to go shopping for another order from a court of coordinate jurisdiction. On the 16th July, 2024 a SHC gave an order that a congress should not be conducted https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/714402-court-bars-pdp-from-conducting-congress-in-rivers.html&ved=2ahUKEwiAyffN3_SKAxVDUUEAHWxfMxsQFnoECCIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3ZnRG8BK4oB9vj_Tg4Bh8Q
and instead to obey it, the PDP went to another court, FHC to be precised to go and shop for another order that gave them go ahead to conduct the congress on the 24th July, 2024
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://punchng.com/court-okays-rivers-pdp-congresses/&ved=2ahUKEwjQoaGa4PSKAxVgRUEAHZX2CY4QFnoECBgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2sf3-__JYiPVpeSHAztbxk.
On the 27th July, the same court reissue the order
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/07/27/court-stops-pdp-others-from-conducting-party-congress-in-rivers/&ved=2ahUKEwjQoaGa4PSKAxVgRUEAHZX2CY4QFnoECCwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1LcYNIc6jEuvu8Km4c3jqY

The same 27th July, 2024, the PDP went to conduct the congress even after a court reissued the order.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/07/pdp-shuns-court-order-holds-congresses-in-rivers/&ved=2ahUKEwjQoaGa4PSKAxVgRUEAHZX2CY4QFnoECC0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2lYZVODO919R8j7ROa23cX

The reasonable question a normal human should have asked.
i. Which order first came?
ii. Why didn't PDP appeal the order from the SHC instead of going to shop for another?
iii. Why was PDP so anxious to do the congress without doing due diligence on all court orders to safe them the day?

The same order they are taken for granted and even you was the same order from the same court thy caused APC not to have candidates to field in the year 2019.

My brother, no matter how stupid an order is, it must be obeyed to the last letter. The worst is to appeal it and vacate it but trying to play smart on it, will cause you to be burnt.

You are the Olodo. This is PDP matter and you are referencing APC.

Did a Federal High Court order the PDP to go ahead with their Congress or not.

Now you value the order of the State High court while neglecting that of the Federal High Court.

I maintain only the Appeal court being a higher court can decide on the issue.

Leave APC past case out of this cos during that if APC it was clear that only a state High court ruled which they disobeyed.

Today Fibara is also disobeying Apoeal court judgement while relying on the judgement of a state High court concerning the 27 lawmakers.

Nonsense

Kreesxxx:
Put the acronym together. If you still can't decipher call any nursery 2 pupil they will help U out.

Thankfully I have a nursery 2 daughter at home. I have asked her and she said she doesn't know anything like that.
Now can you come out of your shell and be bold enough. Who are Ipobidients and who are those that came from the land of bitterness?

Cherrybae:
When the Federal High Court ruled that the PDP Congress should go ahead, was it appealed if you say its the state High court that only have the jurisdiction to entertain such matter.

Why didn't Fubara approach the Appeal court to override the Federal High Court order.

Stop misinformed the public. We all know you are pro Fubara and will say things to suit your gullible ipob and obedients

I had initially wanted to take you seriously, but the moment you brought up names like IPOB and Obidients, it became clear you lack depth in your analysis. No offense to them, but your arguments reflect the mindset of a roadside vendor analyst. You are not worthy of my time, as you are clearly not ready to learn or engage in meaningful dialogue.

Wike thinks he's smart. This might actually be a setup for him by Jagaban. He might be sacked as minister after losing everything in Rivers State. Because he has no political value anymore and gradually losing control of Pdp in Rivers and nationally. Season 3 has ended. Let season 4 begin of the Rivers saga

Cherrybae:
You are the Olodo. This is PDP matter and you are referencing APC.

Did a Federal High Court order the PDP to go ahead with their Congress or not.

Now you value the order of the State High court while neglecting that of the Federal High Court.

I maintain only the Appeal court being a higher court can decide on the issue.

Leave APC past case out of this cos during that if APC it was clear that only a state High court ruled which they disobeyed.

Today Fibara is also disobeying Apoeal court judgement while relying on the judgement of a state High court concerning the 27 lawmakers.

Nonsense

I love your kind that always think they know something but in essence they know but nothing.

Do you know what is call precedence in law or case law? You use a similar case that has been decided to judge a new case. That is why you hear in court in reference to decided cases. A case between Mr. A and Mrs. B or a case between party C and party Z.

I love the way I am spoon feeding you.

Court issues don't go with emotions. Law is law and cannot be bent for anyone for any reason.

Mr. Man, the case in contention is a state matter within the party and not federal case. It is when it is a case between a party and federal agency that SHC cannot dabble into it.

Now, you must know that FHC and SHC are the same and have same coordinate jurisdiction and the first order came from the SHC while going to FHC while there is an existing order.

Desyno:
The judgement was given by River State high court. There's a reason Wike always take his court cases to federal high court in Abuja but I don't expect you to know because you're just being emotional over political matter. The same Rivers state voided APC Congress but what comes out of it? Okocha publicly blast the judge and Fubara and he continues his work as Apc chairman in Rivers. Fubara should go and build APP so the party can be strong in the next election.

Well its obvious you re a Fubara guy, no further comment.

The matter long . Choose your fight wisely. choose the path of wisdom to maintain capacity especially when peace is possible. Never underestimate your opponent, you may end up with many surprises.

IfnobeGod20:
They should leave the law and not interpret it correctly just because Wike used government money to built houses and gave them SUVs?
They should do abracadabra judgement. This country is gone with your kind and their can never be peace and serenity where ever your kind is made a leader. Facto!

For the record I am not the cause of the nations problems. I didnt hear you complain when Farotimi was sent to prison.

Talib2803:
The courts are tired of WIKE(D)

court can never be tired of proceedings.

Time to expel Wike and his urchins from Rivers PDP.

They should do it quickly before it's too late.

This judgement is one kind Sha. The petitioners did not say how they won the election, lol.

Nigeria is a funny place.

Gandrova:
For most of you guys expecting Wike to fall in River State, kindly rethink there is no how the supreme court would validate Fubara's case !

oga shut up....not every matter end up in supreme court...Wike is gone

asiga:
The Governor is also positioning Emeka Bekee and his people in the APC waiting for Wike.

Hahahaha... 2027 go too loud o

IfnobeGod20:
Thankfully I have a nursery 2 daughter at home. I have asked her and she said she doesn't know anything like that.
Now can you come out of your shell and be bold enough. Who are Ipobidients and who are those that came from the land of bitterness?

Why are you so particular about this my harmless comment. Do U want to arrest them? They are nuisance to the society.

Wike must obey Fubara

jericco1:
Fubaru has used Wike to wipe his ass

I remember those days when Sherrif was in charge of the PDP and he was wining left and right. Many haters of the PDP then were even praising him while the the opponents. sympathisers were abusing him. But the day the Supreme court broke the camel's back Amodu Sherrif disappeared into thin air. I hope many fools here will not cry when the man they are praising and supporting lose out big time at the supreme court

Great

Cherrybae:
When the Federal High Court ruled that the PDP Congress should go ahead, was it appealed if you say its the state High court that only have the jurisdiction to entertain such matter.

Why didn't Fubara approach the Appeal court to override the Federal High Court order.

Stop misinformed the public. We all know you are pro Fubara and will say things to suit your gullible ipob and obedients

Don't mind them,it's only the road to SHC the governor knows. He doesn't know Appeal Court.It will be trashed as usual. He will keep securing judgement and order using different people over the same issue.

nwirinedu:
For the record I am not the cause of the nations problems. I didnt hear you complain when Farotimi was sent to prison.

You should not have accused me wrongly. You can go back to any thread concerning the matter and you will see that you challenged me wrongly.
You should have challenged me on my recent comments rather than the one you didn't see.

Kreesxxx:
Why are you so particular about this my harmless comment. Do U want to arrest them? They are nuisance to the society.

Your comment wasn't harmless comments but divisive comments that some people start to attacking you for it, you will be claiming innocence.
Please arrest who? You're the one to be arrested for making divisive comments and constituting nuisance.