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Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:06pm On Jan 14, 2025
GothamCities:
Hmm. May God have mercy on their souls.
At least we have mercy on the souls of our neighbours like you and our fellow believers in Christ Jesus.
As for our own soul ọmọ no worry yourself our God is alive! smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:11pm On Jan 14, 2025
GothamCities:
Please prove to me according to this scripture below that He returned in the year 2014:
The scripture you're referring to is:

Revelation 1:7 (KJV)
"Behold, He cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen."

Using tje bolded parts of that Scripture, prove that Jesus came in 2014.
First of all its 1914 not 2014.

Secondly what you quoted is another parable because it mentioned "those who pierced him"

So if you want to learn humble yourself and do so because we have all the evidences that Jesus returned in the year 1914
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 6:17pm On Jan 14, 2025
Nachmonides:
Haha. I'll soon unfollow this thread because it's been the same old, nonsensical, unwise, sensual, devilish, responses I've been witnessing from you JWs.

Here's my conclusion: Do the study yourself, don't believe all I've said or anybody here has said, compile the odd evidences of Trinity in scripture yourself, consult the original Hebrew and Greek depending on the book you're studying in time. Come to a conclusion for yourself based on the God-given senses you have. God actually expects we utilise our senses in reading and studying scriptures; scripture say we should "Study...", and studying is brain work, but not just that, like the Apostle Paul says, pray for the "eyes" of your understanding to be enlightened, so that you may know.


13/01/'25
20:56
- N, your brother in Christ.
The proof given to you that Ehyeh is "I will be" at Exodus 3:12 Greek Septuagint, not "I Am "

Trinitarian FALSEhood : "I AM have sent me to you"
Is not found in Exodus 3:14 Greek Septuagint.

"Ho on (the Being) have sent me to you" , this rendition of the Greek Septuagint, not " I Am" .

These truth and facts brought to you by JW's is what you are label as " nonsensical, unwise, sensual, devilish, responses I've been witnessing from you JWs."

Nachmonides,You have no love for the truth.
I won't mince words to say it as it is.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 6:32pm On Jan 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Please when next you meet a JW try to be humble because there's a lot you will learn and stop deceiving yourself thinking you can make us feel bad with your insults or ridicule we are used to all such as Christians! Matthew 5:11-12

What actually made me engage you is when you mentioned "JWs" that's why i patiently and tactfully keep the discussion on going without insulting you to prove what a true Christian is! 1Peter 3:15

As for brotherhood you are not my brother in any way.
A BROTHER is someone related to me by BIRTH or through BUSINESS or through FAITH but since you and i are not related in any of these three then it means you are my NEIGHBOUR. smiley
If I lie and you point it out, that's not an insult.
My aim is NOT merely to make you feel, but to make you aware you entered one chance and to consider your options

As for "brother", consult your dictionary or invent your own language. Some groups (like black Americans) call all black men brother, and black women, sister
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 6:35pm On Jan 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The pain is not about lies rather you failed to prove what you claim after ridiculing the Bible saying what it says about the end time is senseless but now ashamed to see that JWs stood by what the Bible teaches about the last days! smiley
Last days? You must have mistaken me for one of your regulars
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 6:38pm On Jan 14, 2025
GothamCities:
Please mention the Churches that are killing themselves. Is that too hard for you guys?
Is Russian Orthodox church a denomination?
It is ooO!

Did You see evidence of Russian Orthodox church clergy blessing war troops & emphatic support of violence against their fellow Ukrainian church members?
Yes you did.
Does the Ukrainian chaplain (in the screenshot) belong to any church in Ukraine ?
Yes.
He didn't wake up one morning & get appointment into chaplaincy .

Gotham, continue your IBERIBEISM deceiving yourself.
grin grin
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:46pm On Jan 14, 2025
DaddyCoool:
If I lie and you point it out, that's not an insult.
My aim is NOT merely to make you feel, but to make you aware you entered one chance and to consider your options
As for "brother", consult your dictionary or invent your own language. Some groups (like black Americans) call all black men brother, and black women, sister
Once again you proved unbelieving i am not from America neither am i just anyone but a Christian.

When Jesus talked about brothers he pointed at his fellow believers not just anybody who claims to be a Jew! Matthew 12:46-50

So i'm following the footsteps of Christ not that of Americans! smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:48pm On Jan 14, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Last days? You must have mistaken me for one of your regulars
Worshipers of confused Jesus whose members are fighting and killing themselves! Revelations 6:3-4smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by GothamCities(op): 6:59pm On Jan 14, 2025
Janosky:
Is Russian Orthodox church a denomination?
It is ooO!

Did You see evidence of Russian Orthodox church clergy blessing war troops & emphatic support of violence against their fellow Ukrainian church members?
Yes you did.
Does the Ukrainian chaplain (in the screenshot) belong to any church in Ukraine ?
Yes.
He didn't wake up one morning & get appointment into chaplaincy .

Gotham, continue your IBERIBEISM deceiving yourself.
grin grin
Can you point me to where the said Russian Orthodox Church said they're the representative of all Churches?
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by GothamCities(op): 7:00pm On Jan 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
First of all its 1914 not 2014.

Secondly what you quoted is another parable because it mentioned "those who pierced him"

So if you want to learn humble yourself and do so because we have all the evidences that Jesus returned in the year 1914
So, those who pierced Jesus did it in a parable?

Bwahahaha.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:05pm On Jan 14, 2025
GothamCities:
So, those who pierced Jesus did it in a parable?
Bwahahaha.
Aren't they among those who supposed to see him coming back?
So are they still alive now so that they can see him coming with the clouds?

GothamCities:
Revelation 1:7 (KJV)
"Behold, He cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen."
That's what makes the whole statement a PARABLE which must be interpreted not just read as you quoted! smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by GothamCities(op): 7:22pm On Jan 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Aren't they among those who supposed to see him coming back?
So are they still alive now so that they can see him coming with the clouds?



That's what makes the whole statement a PARABLE which must be interpreted not just read as you quoted! smiley
So, when the scriptures said "Every eye" shall see Him, you saw it as only the eyes of the living?

Every eye dead and alive shall see Him.

How many eyes saw Jesus in your 1914 lies?
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:25pm On Jan 14, 2025
GothamCities:
So, when the scriptures said "Every eye" shall see Him, you saw it as only the eyes of the living?
Every eye dead and alive shall see Him.
How many eyed saw Jesus in your 1914 lies?
Oh my bad!

I forgot that in your own religion the dead can SEE! Psalms 146:4; Ecclesiastes 9:5-6cheesy
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 7:46pm On Jan 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Once again you proved unbelieving i am not from America neither am i just anyone but a Christian.

When Jesus talked about brothers he pointed at his fellow believers not just anybody who claims to be a Jew! Matthew 12:46-50

So i'm following the footsteps of Christ not that of Americans! smiley
So who was Christ our Lord and Saviour referring to in John 4:22 if not fellow Jews?
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 7:48pm On Jan 14, 2025
GothamCities:
Hmm. May God have mercy on their souls.
That's all we can do: offer sincere prayers that they wake up one day
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 7:51pm On Jan 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Worshipers of confused Jesus whose members are fighting and killing themselves! Revelations 6:3-4smiley
Janosky:
The person wey no agree with the teaching of Jesus Christ to worship ONLY Jehovah @ Matthew 4:10.

When are you going to stop deceiving yourself?
See below

Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:54pm On Jan 14, 2025
DaddyCoool:
So who was Christ our Lord and Saviour referring to in John 4:22 if not fellow Jews?
Only those who enter into the New Covenant which was established in the day of Pentecost so whoever is not one of those humbly learning from those people baptized with Holy Spirit can't worship God in spirit and truth.
That's why many Jews perished in the first century with the destruction of Jerusalem! smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:56pm On Jan 14, 2025
DaddyCoool:
That's all we can do: offer sincere prayers that they wake up one day
This is hilarious!
Prayers from you guys that's been insulting and abusing each other over who is your Lord since shey? smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:57pm On Jan 14, 2025
DaddyCoool:
See below
‭John 17:3 NIV‬

Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Who is the ONLY TRUE GOD?

smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 8:00pm On Jan 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Only those who enter into the New Covenant which was established in the day of Pentecost so whoever is not one of those humbly learning from those people baptized with Holy Spirit can't worship God in spirit and truth.
That's why many Jews perished in the first century with the destruction of Jerusalem! smiley
Lying again (this is not insult, just fact).
Was there a limit on the number of words Christ could use?
Why did he only say "We Jews" and he was talking to a Samaritan woman? Is it not only their nationalities that differ?
That's what lying does. You go explain tire grin
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:07pm On Jan 14, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Lying again (this is not insult, just fact).
Was there a limit on the number of words Christ could use?
Why did he only say "We Jews" and he was talking to a Samaritan woman? Is it not only their nationalities that differ?
That's what lying does. You go explain tire grin
This is really funny!

The woman asked Jesus because there were two nations Samaritans (Ten tribes of northern Israel) and Jews (Two tribes of Southern Israel) the Jews despise the Samaritans that only Jerusalem in the city of the Jews can anyone worship the true God but Samaritans claimed they are also descendants of Jacob (Israel) that's what the woman wanted to know and Jesus told her that pertaining to her question the Jews has been right about that but presently pure worship won't be a thing of geographical location again. John 4:20-24

Now read the whole story again! wink
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 8:08pm On Jan 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
‭John 17:3 NIV‬

Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Who is the ONLY TRUE GOD?

smiley
And that’s why the Bible is to be taken in entirety Not cherrypicking to deceive. See how many verses I presented?
Why I keep going back to what has happened in 2000+ years. Because no matter what, God's will triumphs. God raised Christ from DEAD knowing full well he'd be worshipped as God!
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:10pm On Jan 14, 2025
DaddyCoool:
And that’s why the Bible is to be taken in entirety Not cherrypicking to deceive. See how many verses I presented?
Why I keep going back to what has happened in 2000+ years. Because no matter what, God's will triumphs. God raised Christ from DEAD knowing full well he'd be worshipped as God!
By pagans who will end up arguing, insulting, abusing, cursing, fighting and killing themselves because of politics and racism!
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 8:10pm On Jan 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
This is hilarious!
Prayers from you guys that's been insulting and abusing each other over who is your Lord since shey? smiley
Non-robots have healthy arguments.
Robots CAN'T!
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:17pm On Jan 14, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Non-robots have healthy arguments.
Robots CAN'T!
Of course true Christians are ROBOTS in the spirit because they suspends the use of their brains after reading what Jesus said about a matter {Matthew 16:24} so instead of arguing we bow to the order from our Master, Lord and King! Philippians 2:10 smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 8:20pm On Jan 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
This is really funny!

The woman asked Jesus because there were two nations Samaritans (Ten tribes of northern Israel) and Jews (Two tribes of Southern Israel) the Jews despise the Samaritans that only Jerusalem in the city of the Jews can anyone worship the true God but Samaritans claimed they are also descendants of Jacob (Israel) that's what the woman wanted to know and Jesus told her that pertaining to her question the Jews has been right about that but presently pure worship won't be a thing of geographical location again. John 4:20-24

Now read the whole story again! wink
What has this rambling to do with the fact that this was about NATIONS of Samaria and Israel??
And by the way the 10 tribes were also Jews but after their conquest their remnants intermarried with Gentiles and thus stopped being Jews in the eyes of the not-yet-conquered South. All this is PHYSICAL!

A Samaritan woman came to draw some water, and Jesus said to her, “Give me a drink of water.” (His disciples had gone into town to buy food.) The woman answered, “You are a Jew, and I am a Samaritan — so how can you ask me for a drink?” (Jews will not use the same cups and bowls that Samaritans use.)
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 8:30pm On Jan 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
By pagans who will end up arguing, insulting, abusing, cursing, fighting and killing themselves because of politics and racism!
Worshipped by people He greatly prospered and exploded in number.
Note: He could have avoided all that if He disapproved of it by simply DOING NOTHING! Simply allow the dead stay dead!
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 8:33pm On Jan 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Of course true Christians are ROBOTS in the spirit because they suspends the use of their brains after reading what Jesus said about a matter {Matthew 16:24} so instead of arguing we bow to the order from our Master, Lord and King! Philippians 2:10 smiley
God (Christ) never intended that humans be robots BUT JW perverted that among other things
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:44pm On Jan 14, 2025
DaddyCoool:
And by the way the 10 tribes were also Jews.
This is why you guys should learn from Jehovah's Witnesses!

The ten northern tribes are not Jews but Samaritans living in Samaria Jews are those living in Judah the two tribes of Judah and Benjamin with Levites officiating in their temple in Jerusalem. smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:45pm On Jan 14, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Worshipped by people He greatly prospered and exploded in number.
Note: He could have avoided all that if He disapproved of it by simply DOING NOTHING! Simply allow the dead stay dead!
As if Buddhists, Hindus and Muslims are not many too! smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:53pm On Jan 14, 2025
DaddyCoool:
God (Christ) never intended that humans be robots BUT JW perverted that among other things
You are the one calling faithful people ROBOTS nah so instead of arguing with you i agreed because Jesus is the head of all such ROBOTS as he admitted:

"I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me" John 5:30

So his true disciples are following his footsteps:

Jesus said to his disciples: “If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake and keep following me." Matthew 16:24

So we admitted that we are ROBOTS under the command of our leader Christ! smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 9:53pm On Jan 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
By pagans who will end up arguing, insulting, abusing, cursing, fighting and killing themselves because of politics and racism!
Matthew 4:10 COMMON SENSE taught by Jesus Christ is not in their own Bibles.
grin grin
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