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Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:24am On Jan 15, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Doesn't matter. Just don't be profaning the Holy name of Jehovah by mixing him with your idol or (biblically) you'll quickly collect - you certainly won't last 2000 years!
You don't know something yet you want to argue.

Regarding profanity this is what Jehovah has to say in the year 96 c.e

"Let the one who is unrighteous continue in unrighteousness, and let the filthy one continue in his filth; but let the righteous one continue in righteousness, and let the holy one continue in holiness." Revelations 22:11

So you are wrong!
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:25am On Jan 15, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Why not explain all those instances Jesus was worshipped. Any other person in the Bible promptly rebuked who ever tried to worship them
So Jesus was confused shey? cheesy
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:27am On Jan 15, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Another lie. Paul kept to his belief that Gentiles need not be circumcised, Peter kept to his that they must
Where is this written o? cheesy
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 7:31am On Jan 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You don't know something yet you want to argue.

Regarding profanity this is what Jehovah has to say in the year 96 c.e

"Let the one who is unrighteous continue in unrighteousness, and let the filthy one continue in his filth; but let the righteous one continue in righteousness, and let the holy one continue in holiness." Revelations 22:11

So you are wrong!
You're confused. You're told to OT and STUDY the character of Jehovah and you're quoting Revelation!
Go study OT and come tell us if he is the kind you mix up with Buddha in worship, praying that he decend power of the Holy Ghost, while you're bowing to Buddha!
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:32am On Jan 15, 2025
DaddyCoool:
You're confused. You're told to OT and STUDY the character of Jehovah and you're quoting Revelation!
Go study OT and come tell us if he is the kind you mix up with Buddha in worship, praying that he decend power of the Holy Ghost, while you're bowing to Buddha!
Now you're talking!

So you mean Jehovah in the OT is not the same person in the NT? cheesy
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 7:38am On Jan 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Where is this written o? cheesy
Galatians chapter 2
Paul says “But when Peter came to Antioch I opposed him to his face because he was clearly in the wrong.” And so apparently after Acts 15, Peter came down to Antioch in Syria where Paul was ministering. And at first, things were fine. At first, everybody was getting along. But then some people came from the Jerusalem Church who were within the orbit of James the Just and who favored the idea of separation between Jews and Gentiles.

And when they arrived, in order to keep the peace, Peter stopped having table fellowship. He stopped eating with Gentile Christians and only ate with Jewish Christians because of the difference in sensibilities regarding the need to keep the Jewish kosher laws.

And other Jews who were there, present at the time, thought that was a reasonable thing to do. Barnabas, Paul’s companion, thought that was a reasonable thing to do as well.

And so he also only ate with the with the Jewish Christians while they were there in order to avoid giving them offense. Paul thought this sent the wrong message to Gentiles, and so that’s why he rebuked Peter.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:39am On Jan 15, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Galatians chapter 2
Paul says “But when Peter came to Antioch I opposed him to his face because he was clearly in the wrong.” And so apparently after Acts 15, Peter came down to Antioch in Syria where Paul was ministering. And at first, things were fine. At first, everybody was getting along. But then some people came from the Jerusalem Church who were within the orbit of James the Just and who favored the idea of separation between Jews and Gentiles.

And when they arrived, in order to keep the peace, Peter stopped having table fellowship. He stopped eating with Gentile Christians and only ate with Jewish Christians because of the difference in sensibilities regarding the need to keep the Jewish kosher laws.

And other Jews who were there, present at the time, thought that was a reasonable thing to do. Barnabas, Paul’s companion, thought that was a reasonable thing to do as well.

And so he also only ate with the with the Jewish Christians while they were there in order to avoid giving them offense. Paul thought this sent the wrong message to Gentiles, and so that’s why he rebuked Peter.
Was Peter teaching his fellow believers to do this or he was CONFUSED just as he did when he denied Jesus three times? cheesy
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 7:40am On Jan 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Now you're talking!

So you mean Jehovah in the OT is not the same person in the NT? cheesy
YOU are saying it by saying he'd accept being worshipped and mixed up with a non-God for 2000 years!
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 7:42am On Jan 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Was Peter teaching his fellow believers to do this or he was CONFUSED just as he did when he denied Jesus three times? cheesy
Doesn't matter. They DISAGREED. They were NOT robots like JW, incapable of disagreeing
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:46am On Jan 15, 2025
DaddyCoool:
YOU are saying it by saying he'd accept being worshipped and mixed up with a non-God for 2000 years!
NO i'm telling you that Jehovah promised a New Covenant {Jeremiah 31:31-32} so He took the lead in doing what all His worshipers should do in the New Covenant not that Jehovah has changed o!
When Jehovah's Witnesses come to your house please humbly accept a Bible study or you will continue to confuse yourself claiming you know.
Just imagine Jehovah in the OT is not the same as Jehovah in the NT.
Ọmọ you funny o! cheesy
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:52am On Jan 15, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Doesn't matter. They DISAGREED. They were NOT robots like JW, incapable of disagreeing
See delusion!

Someone misbehaved the other rebuked him and that translates to disagreement to you shey?

Well the same thing happened here on this thread when my brother Janoski was reciprocating to your rudeness but i used the scriptures to correct my brother does that mean Janoski and i disagreed?
Ọmọ disagreement is what you guys have been doing on this thread since it started as each of you wanted to teach what he has in mind resulting to arguments and insults!smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 8:07am On Jan 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
See delusion!

Someone misbehaved the other rebuked him and that translates to disagreement to you shey?

Well the same thing happened here on this thread when my brother Janoski was reciprocating to your rudeness but i used the scriptures to correct my brother does that mean Janoski and i disagreed?
Ọmọ disagreement is what you guys have been doing on this thread since it started as each of you wanted to teach what he has in mind resulting to arguments and insults!smiley
If JW says Gentiles are to be curcumcused, will there even be a discussion about it between you and your "brother"?
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:13am On Jan 15, 2025
DaddyCoool:
If JW says Gentiles are to be curcumcused, will there even be a discussion about it between you and your "brother"?
We are ORDERLY {1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} that's why there is no arguments among us {1Corinthians 14:33} so it's either you're a JW by sticking to the same line of thought {John 17:22} or you pitch your tent elsewhere! Luke 11:23 smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by gohf: 8:16am On Jan 15, 2025
Janosky:

Nah so their brains dey function to deceive them.
The last sentence "was Theos" is the last sentence of Acts 28:6 & John 1:1.

Theos is not capitalized when that being referenced in the verse is not God Almighty, for instance Psalm77:13 & Acts 28:6, Acts 12:21-23
okay just looking at the Greek text of Acts 28:6 where theon is used so as to refer to Paul as a god meanwhile in Acts 12:22 theos is used for Herod to reference that his voice was like god's. I have tried to explain here to some of them that theos in John 1:1 was John writing that the word belong to God, that is, the word was God's and is still God's for Jesus is God's word but they insist theos/theou and theon like used later in Acts 12:23 are both the same.


I believe most translator kept with the capitalization for Jesus because the commonly accepted belief is that Jesus is God and to oppose it is heresy and which major organization would do such without expecting to be persecuted or spoke against.


I heard of a Greek text translator centuries ago who was manipulated into adding Father, word and Holy Ghost into 1John5:7 whereas his first translation lacked it as he didn't find any Greek text that contained the phrase, but he later added the phrase as insisted and manipulated by the church.

So people being deceived is because we forget that the truth like every valuable thing isn't easy to get.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 8:17am On Jan 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
We are ORDERLY {1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} that's why there is no arguments among us {1Corinthians 14:33} so it's either you're a JW by sticking to the same line of thought {John 17:22} or you pitch your tent elsewhere! Luke 11:23 smiley
So please stop comparing your robotic selves to thinking followers of Christ like Peter and Paul
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:18am On Jan 15, 2025
You people can continue with your Jesus is God doctrine at least you now know that falsehood can never ever result to oneness in thought because Jesus only prayed for oneness in thought among his true disciples {John 17:22} if such a thing is possible elsewhere Jesus won't beg his father to do what unbelievers can do without the word of God! John 17:17 smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:21am On Jan 15, 2025
DaddyCoool:
So please stop comparing your robotic selves to thinking followers of Christ like Peter and Paul
Come and stop me from saying the truth nah! Act 4:19-20 cheesy

Jesus said something you're kicking against it due to rebellion embedded in your heart yet you want to claim you are for the same Jesus.

Ọmọ you can do that but don't just come close to Jehovah's Witnesses or say anything against us because i will prove to you that only Jehovah's Witnesses are true Christians!smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 8:42am On Jan 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Come and stop me from saying the truth nah! Act 4:19-20 cheesy

Jesus said something you're kicking against it due to rebellion embedded in your heart yet you want to claim you are for the same Jesus.

Ọmọ you can do that but don't just come close to Jehovah's Witnesses or say anything against us because i will prove to you that only Jehovah's Witnesses are true Christians!smiley
True Christians are NOT robots in an obvious cult. Thing is, you're no longer even trying to camouflage that it is a coercive cult where you dare not deviate an inch from what you're told to THINK!
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Aemmyjah(m): 9:08am On Jan 15, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Doesn't matter. What matters is that today everybody says "you'd hear of wars and rumors of wars" and it sounds stupid (in today's context).
Today it ought be "You'd hear of wars". Full stop
Anyone that studied English knows that rumors was an archaic synonym for news or reports

Again
If you hear that Boko haram entered your village, will rumors of war and violence not start circulating?
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:47am On Jan 15, 2025
DaddyCoool:
True Christians are NOT robots in an obvious cult. Thing is, you're no longer even trying to camouflage that it is a coercive cult where you dare not deviate an inch from what you're told to THINK!
Our Master, Lord and King said the same thing:

"I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me" John 5:30

And he said you people will call us a cult for imitating him:


A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household? Matthew 10:24-25

So we are his true followers! smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:04am On Jan 15, 2025
Aemmyjah:
Anyone that studied English knows that rumors was an archaic synonym for news or reports
Again
If you hear that Boko haram entered your village, will rumors of war and violence not start circulating?
Please just focus on the message because Satan wants to use them against God's organization but with your manner and response you are a winner in Jesus name! Romans 12:21

How is Uyo now?
Ukraine has started persecuting our brothers too just like Russia please let's keep our brothers in mind as we pray for them! Romans 8:26
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by GothamCities(op): 11:56am On Jan 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
OK they will be resurrected before they can see him shey?
You try jàre! smiley
Those who are alive and those who are dead will see him.

Did you see your fake Jesus when he came in 1914?
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by GothamCities(op): 11:57am On Jan 15, 2025
Janosky:
Russian and Ukraine Orthodox churches are moslems and atheists?

Oga, komot your IBERIBEISM far away from this public forum
grin.
They're christians, just like yourself.

How do they relate with me and all other Christians worldwide?
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by GothamCities(op): 11:58am On Jan 15, 2025
Janosky:
Did all eyes see Jesus Christ ascension?
No.
Did your own Bible tell you that in the manner of his ascent is the same manner Jesus will return?
Yes, your Bible did.
Did your own Bible tell you Jesus Christ is coming like a thief in the night?
Yes.
Is a thief coming to a place in the night visible to every resident?
No, some residents will sleep like a log of wood & hear/see nothing.
"All eyes (God's servants blessed with discernment) will see him (Jesus).

Did the Bible say all eyes will see Jesus' ascension?

Did your own Bible say when Jesus comes, no eye shall see Him?

The thief is visible to residents! The import of that statement of Jesus is not Invisibility but unpredictability.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:02pm On Jan 15, 2025
GothamCities:
Those who are alive and those who are dead will see him.
Did you see your fake Jesus when he came in 1914?
At least the dead will see your own Jesus after resurrection just that you still prefer to call them "DEAD" despite the fact that they've been raised from the dead! smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:06pm On Jan 15, 2025
GothamCities:
They're christians, just like yourself.
You acknowledged people killing their neighbours and fellow worshipers as Christians shey?
Well that's where we JWs differ from you people because whoever disobey Christ's orders is not a Christian to us!

GothamCities:
How do they relate with me and all other Christians worldwide?
You acknowledged them as your fellow believers even though they are killing their fellow believers in other countries so they are related to you! smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Aemmyjah(m): 12:40pm On Jan 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Please just focus on the message because Satan wants to use them against God's organization but with your manner and response you are a winner in Jesus name! Romans 12:21

How is Uyo now?
Ukraine has started persecuting our brothers too just like Russia please let's keep our brothers in mind as we pray for them! Romans 8:26
Yes sir
Uyo is good
The convention is still very fresh on our minds

Oh
Did not hear about the Ukraine news
Will pray for them sir
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 12:57pm On Jan 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Our Master, Lord and King said the same thing:

"I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me" John 5:30

And he said you people will call us a cult for imitating him:


A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household? Matthew 10:24-25

So we are his true followers! smiley
He was talking about the Father, NOT some JW higher-up manipulators!

Be·elʹze·bub DOESN'T translate to robot
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 1:06pm On Jan 15, 2025
Aemmyjah:
Anyone that studied English knows that rumors was an archaic synonym for news or reports

Again
If you hear that Boko haram entered your village, will rumors of war and violence not start circulating?
My friend "you'll hear of report of wars" is still ridiculous. It is same thing as saying "you'll hear of wars"

In today's context "you'll hear of wars" is all that's needed. In biblical Rome rumors of wars were all over because info was slow and Rome was warring on different fronts simultaneously!
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Aemmyjah(m): 1:24pm On Jan 15, 2025
DaddyCoool:
My friend "you'll hear of report of wars" is still ridiculous. It is same thing as saying "you'll hear of wars"

In today's context "you'll hear of wars" is all that's needed. In biblical Rome rumors of wars were all over because info was slow and Rome was warring on different fronts simultaneously!
Millions of people understand very easily what they read
To just one person, it is ridiculous

Is that of any relevance to those with understanding ?

You're like a student that all the students in the class understand what the teacher has said but only one student keeps insisting that the teacher is wrong and what is said makes no sense... It's to just ignore the fool and move on
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 1:34pm On Jan 15, 2025
Aemmyjah:
Millions of people understand very easily what they read
To just one person, it is ridiculous

Is that of any relevance to those with understanding ?

You're like a student that all the students in the class understand what the teacher has said but only one student keeps insisting that the teacher is wrong and what is said makes no sense... It's to just ignore the fool and move on
Oh I understand it. It's just annoying to me because I know It's anachronistic. There are no "rumors of wars" today because info is at our fingertips - you'd even see video of the war on your phone! While at time Christ was speaking info was mainly by mouth and hard to verify - fertile ground for rumors!
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:54pm On Jan 15, 2025
DaddyCoool:
He was talking about the Father, NOT some JW higher-up manipulators!
Be·elʹze·bub DOESN'T translate to robot
It's OK if you don't understand "rumors of war" then i have been wasting my precious time because there still remains lots of things that you can't just understand even when it's happening right before your eyes!
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