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MaxInDHouse:
It's OK if you don't understand "rumors of war" then i have been wasting my precious time because there still remains lots of things that you can't just understand even when it's happening right before your eyes!

You obviously missed this my post:

Oh I understand "rumors of wars". It's just annoying to me because I know It's anachronistic. There are no "rumors of wars" today because info is at our fingertips - you'd even see video of the war right on your phone! While at the time Christ was speaking info was mainly by mouth and hard to verify - fertile ground for rumors!

DaddyCoool:
Oh I understand it. It's just annoying to me because I know It's anachronistic. There are no "rumors of wars" today because info is at our fingertips - you'd even see video of the war on your phone! While at time Christ was speaking info was mainly by mouth and hard to verify - fertile ground for rumors!

Jesus disciples asked him a question about when a future event will occur and he gave them signs
The book of revelation added same that this signs are to be fulfilled sometime in the future

Again, you're like a student that insists the teacher is wrong cos he alone would not agree with what is said. Today, we have all news and reports and rumors of bad things - wars, diseases, food shortages, etc. Did Jesus specifically mention which wars or your negative minded brain is telling you that I will switch on the TV and boldly see, REPORT OF WAR or RUMORS OF WAR?


Again, answer my question
If you hear that Boko haram enters your community, what kind of rumors will start to spread

Now you're shifting goalposts saying that Jesus spoke by mouth and it's not verified. Have you personally verified that everything said in history books well quoting words of ancient people were true?

Shame on you
How foolish an atheist can be!

DaddyCoool:
You obviously missed this my post:

Oh I understand "rumors of wars". It's just annoying to me because I know It's anachronistic. There are no "rumors of wars" today because info is at our fingertips - you'd even see video of the war right on your phone! While at the time Christ was speaking info was mainly by mouth and hard to verify - fertile ground for rumors!

The truth is there are many things that's happening now but since you don't like those involved you can never see grasp the meaning.

I have been quoting and sighting Bible verses to show you the fulfillment of prophecies found written in the Bible but since you hate to hear that you must humble yourself to learn from the group that's fulfilling these prophecies you just don't want to hear it.

I wasn't born a JW but after reading the Bible, studying it diligently, meditating thoroughly and fervently praying i realized that there is a global group that is fulfilling all these prophecies and just as Jesus foretold about them they will be hated by people of all nations! Matthew 24:9

Why would they be hated if they are his disciples?
Everybody today loves to hear and speak about Jesus nah!

Well the truth is they will be hated for the same reason Jews hated Jesus and his disciples back then.

So it's wise to figure out why Jews hated Jesus despite all the miraculous works he performed in their community.

Jews are arrogant people who feels they should dominate the world since their God is the Almighty but Jesus explained to them that that's not the reason God chose their forefathers rather they are to lead other nations to salvation through a HARD WORK that'll be assigned to them.
They must leave their comfort zone to go and preach to people they had been treating with contempt in the past and to hear the promised Messiah (Christ) telling them to kiss the feet of pagans like Romans that's been dominating them for years!
They concluded that Jesus is out of his senses because they will not do such a thing even if God should come down to tell them and that's why they discarded all the signs Jesus performed and decided to kill him! John 11:48, 53

Why do people like you hate Jehovah's Witnesses today?

We are ready to humble ourselves before anyone including strangers {1Corinthians 9:19-23} just to pass the message Jesus commanded us to them {Matthew 28:19-20} no tribe or nation will accept that because it means even though the stranger is from a tribe or nation that's been enemy to our people for centuries or decades we must strive to make peace just because of Jesus! Romans 12:18
That's why we must anticipate hatred not from strangers but from our own people for this type of faith! Matthew 10:35-36
Satan has established many religions today all claiming Christians but are they also doing this difficult work?
NO!
Instead they are living like all other people with no restraint related to what Jesus commanded that's why Jesus said he will declare to them that he never knew them as they are not following his rules to become peaceable with everyone but still doing things like those without faith in Christ! Matthew 7:21-23

Once again i must tell you this though it's bitter in the stomach but those who have tasted it with faith in God now know it's sweetness in their mouth! Revelations 10:9-10 compare to Psalms 119:103

We are not happy telling you people that you're not true Christians but that's the bitter part of truth!

Aemmyjah:
Jesus disciples asked him a question about when a future event will occur and he gave them signs
The book of revelation added same that this signs are to be fulfilled sometime in the future

Again, you're like a student that insists the teacher is wrong cos he alone would not agree with what is said. Today, we have all news and reports and rumors of bad things - wars, diseases, food shortages, etc. Did Jesus specifically mention which wars or your negative minded brain is telling you that I will switch on the TV and boldly see, REPORT OF WAR or RUMORS OF WAR?


Again, answer my question
If you hear that Boko haram enters your community, what kind of rumors will start to spread

Now you're shifting goalposts saying that Jesus spoke by mouth and it's not verified. Have you personally verified that everything said in history books well quoting words of ancient people were true?

Shame on you
How foolish an atheist can be!

My friend you misunderstand what I wrote. I never said Jesus spoke by mouth and it was not verified. I said NEWS was mainly by word of mouth and hard to verify (eg, news of a war), unlike today when you'd even see video of the actual war right on phone in your hand!
Bottom line, in today's world, "you'd hear of rumors of wars" makes no sense, "you'd hear of wars" does and it's all that is needed!

As for Boko, "possibility of war" is NOT "rumors of war". "Rumors of war" refers to spreading news of an ongoing war that is possibly false

DaddyCoool:
My friend you misunderstand what I wrote. I never said Jesus spoke by mouth and it was not verified. I said NEWS was mainly by word of mouth and hard to verify (eg, news of a war), unlike today when you'd even see video of the actual war right on phone in your hand!
Bottom line, in today's world, "you'd hear of rumors of wars" makes no sense, "you'd hear of wars" does and it's all that is needed!

As for Boko, "possibility of war" is NOT "rumors of war". "Rumors of war" refers to spreading news of an ongoing war that is possibly false

When you hear
Or you see
Or you read
Or you watch

None of these invalidates what Jesus said
Because, before there is an actual war or war erupts, there are signs or things that will occur that people will to spread news or rumor of war

I heard the rumor Russian Ukraine war before it started. It was some analysts that said it and Zelensky was raising alarm. I did not believe war will occur but the war came


If you are in Israel and you start to hear the sirens, everyone will go to run into a bomb shelter. It's just a siren but why do they run - rumor of war. The war may happen, it may not...

Do you think it's even everyone that can watch way happening live? Have you ever watched any live war? Why don't you have sense

Aemmyjah:
When you hear
Or you see
Or you read
Or you watch

None of these invalidates what Jesus said
Because, before there is an actual war or war erupts, there are signs or things that will occur that people will to spread news or rumor of war

I heard the rumor Russian Ukraine war before it started. It was some analysts that said it and Zelensky was raising alarm. I did not believe war will occur but the war came


If you are in Israel and you start to hear the sirens, everyone will go to run into a bomb shelter. It's just a siren but why do they run - rumor of war. The war may happen, it may not...

Do you think it's even everyone that can watch way happening live? Have you ever watched any live war? Why don't you have sense

Well, that negative word, "rumor", just irks me. "You'd hear about wars" seems to me enough. Even rumor of war is also about war. Add "and possible wars" if you must.
The dictionary defines rumor as "a currently circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful truth."

DaddyCoool:
"a currently circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful truth."

Even with the definition your dictionary gave you it's exactly what we've been telling you since.

Current circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful TRUTH.

With the above rumors of war is correct!

DaddyCoool:
Well, that negative word, "rumor", just irks me. "You'd hear about wars" seems to me enough. Even rumor of war is also about war. Add "and possible wars" if you must.
The dictionary defines rumor as "a currently circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful truth."

All rumors are false. Yes or No

Remember that rumor is an archaic word. Should I show you the definition or you want to check it for yourself

Aemmyjah:
All rumors are false. Yes or No
Remember that rumor is an archaic word. Should I show you the definition or you want to check it for yourself.

Anytimes you engage this people in a discussion about faith in God you will find out they have no faith at all yet they dubiously turn to emotional blackmail, is this not the same person who said he will pray for JWs?
Just imagine someone who claims Jesus' own statement makes no sense to him yet he wants to pray for JWs that takes all of Jesus' words to heart and the hypocrite will claim he wants to pray in the name of the same Jesus whose words makes no sense to him!

MaxInDHouse:
You acknowledged people killing their neighbours and fellow worshipers as Christians shey?
Well that's where we JWs differ from you people because whoever disobey Christ's orders is not a Christian to us!


You acknowledged them as your fellow believers even though they are killing their fellow believers in other countries so they are related to you!

Yes, they're Christians. That doesn't mean they're perfect people.

Being a Christian is simply believing in the death and resurrection of Christ. Fighting wars or not fighting wars is not what makes anybody a Christian.

MaxInDHouse:
At least the dead will see your own Jesus after resurrection just that you still prefer to call them "DEAD" despite the fact that they've been raised from the dead!

My dear, stop all.these deception!

Luke 17:24 (KJV) states:

"For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day."

Just as everyone sees lightening when it lights, everyone will see Jesus when He comes!

Did your fake Jesus appear like this in 1914?

GothamCities:
Yes, they're Christians. That doesn't mean they're perfect people.
Being a Christian is simply believing in the death and resurrection of Christ. Fighting wars or not fighting wars is not what makes anybody a Christian.

YES!
And Jesus will bless them for killing the people whom they supposed to save through their preaching and teaching {1Timothy 4:16} and also kill their fellow believers with whom they supposed to preach about the Prince of Peace during wars in support of politicians! John 13:34-35

Guy you are a real disciples of Christ jọọ don't mind me!

GothamCities:
My dear, stop all.these deception!
Luke 17:24 (KJV) states:
"For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day."
Just as everyone sees lightening when it lights, everyone will see Jesus when He comes!
Did your fake Jesus appear like this in 1914?

The so called "FAKE JESUS" has been the reason why we have a global family of peace loving worshipers today called:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. 1Corinthians 2:14

He has been working with us in gathering humble, honest hearted, obedient and sincere individuals throughout the earth so that they have beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears, they don't lift up weapons against their neighbors nor do they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

Through the effort of this FAKE JESUS Jehovah is gradually bringing an end to war throughout the earth among His true worshipers {Psalms 46:9} but as for those who failed to see Jesus they are still fighting and killing themselves {Revelations 6:3-4} and ruining the planet with their destructive devices {Revelations 11:18} so our Master, Lord and King said he will slaughter all of them {Luke 19:27} because they failed to acknowledge his presence but as for us to avoid confusion since you people also claim Christians our God will call us by another group name:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15 compare to Isaiah 43:10

Aemmyjah:
Yes sir
Uyo is good
The convention is still very fresh on our minds

Oh
Did not hear about the Ukraine news
Will pray for them sir

Did you guys actually used the stadium?
How was the organizing in terms of cleaning after the stadium usage?
Also sorry to ask how was the population and atmosphere?

MaxInDHouse:
Even with the definition your dictionary gave you it's exactly what we've been telling you since.

Current circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful TRUTH.

With the above rumors of war is correct!

Aemmyjah:
All rumors are false. Yes or No

Remember that rumor is an archaic word. Should I show you the definition or you want to check it for yourself

Can you read English? Why did you capitalize "truth" when the definition is actually saying the stories could be UNTRUE?
When was the last time you heard rumors there was a war going on that turned out to be false. Well, that happened a lot in biblical times!

Rumor is NOT an archaic word. See below

DaddyCoool:
Can you read English? Why did you capitalize "truth" when the definition is actually saying the stories could be UNTRUE?
When was the last time you heard rumors there was a war going on that turned out to be false. Well, that happened a lot in biblical times!
Rumor is NOT an archaic word. See below

It's OK let it slide!

MaxInDHouse:
The truth is there are many things that's happening now but since you don't like those involved you can never see grasp the meaning.

I have been quoting and sighting Bible verses to show you the fulfillment of prophecies found written in the Bible but since you hate to hear that you must humble yourself to learn from the group that's fulfilling these prophecies you just don't want to hear it.

I wasn't born a JW but after reading the Bible, studying it diligently, meditating thoroughly and fervently praying i realized that there is a global group that is fulfilling all these prophecies and just as Jesus foretold about them they will be hated by people of all nations! Matthew 24:9

Why would they be hated if they are his disciples?
Everybody today loves to hear and speak about Jesus nah!

Well the truth is they will be hated for the same reason Jews hated Jesus and his disciples back then.

So it's wise to figure out why Jews hated Jesus despite all the miraculous works he performed in their community.

Jews are arrogant people who feels they should dominate the world since their God is the Almighty but Jesus explained to them that that's not the reason God chose their forefathers rather they are to lead other nations to salvation through a HARD WORK that'll be assigned to them.
They must leave their comfort zone to go and preach to people they had been treating with contempt in the past and to hear the promised Messiah (Christ) telling them to kiss the feet of pagans like Romans that's been dominating them for years!
They concluded that Jesus is out of his senses because they will not do such a thing even if God should come down to tell them and that's why they discarded all the signs Jesus performed and decided to kill him! John 11:48, 53

Why do people like you hate Jehovah's Witnesses today?

We are ready to humble ourselves before anyone including strangers {1Corinthians 9:19-23} just to pass the message Jesus commanded us to them {Matthew 28:19-20} no tribe or nation will accept that because it means even though the stranger is from a tribe or nation that's been enemy to our people for centuries or decades we must strive to make peace just because of Jesus! Romans 12:18
That's why we must anticipate hatred not from strangers but from our own people for this type of faith! Matthew 10:35-36
Satan has established many religions today all claiming Christians but are they also doing this difficult work?
NO!
Instead they are living like all other people with no restraint related to what Jesus commanded that's why Jesus said he will declare to them that he never knew them as they are not following his rules to become peaceable with everyone but still doing things like those without faith in Christ! Matthew 7:21-23

Once again i must tell you this though it's bitter in the stomach but those who have tasted it with faith in God now know it's sweetness in their mouth! Revelations 10:9-10 compare to Psalms 119:103

We are not happy telling you people that you're not true Christians but that's the bitter part of truth!

I don't hate JW AT ALL - because I KNOW they're just misguided. The people I blame are their higher ups. And even those I don't blame too much because they HAVE TO keep things as they are - it's not them that started it.

One of my closest friends grew up totally JW. She said she left (NOT excommunicated) because she got close to the leadership and didn't like what she saw. Now she doesn't believe in religion AT ALL. She wouldn't go to church if you paid her!

MaxInDHouse:
It's OK let it slide!

Voila!

DaddyCoool:
I don't hate JW AT ALL - because I KNOW they're just misguided. The people I blame are their higher ups. And even those I don't blame too much because they HAVE TO keep things as they are - it's not them that started it.

One of my closest friends grew up totally JW. She said she left (NOT excommunicated) because she got close to the leadership and didn't like what she saw. Now she doesn't believe in religion AT ALL. She wouldn't go to church if you paid her!

Nobody after tasting JW organization can practice any other religion because they already know the truth they just can't humble themselves like Jesus taught.
So the leaders are a perfect group as in Holy ones whoever can't associate with them can never ever associate with any other religious organization!

MaxInDHouse:
Nobody after tasting JW organization can practice any other religion because they already know the truth they just can't humble themselves like Jesus taught.
So the leaders are a perfect group as in Holy ones whoever can't associate with them can never ever associate with any other religious organization!

No my good friend, it's actually the other way round. JW is what she was born into and all she knew. She was so disappointed from seeing the inner workings that she knew she'd never trust organized religion again. Of course she'd have
quickly latched onto another church if she were excommunicated, but she left by herself.

Lesson for you: don't try to see the inner workings or high-ups of JW - it is like seeing how hotdog is actually made - after that you can't bring yourself to eat it again!

DaddyCoool:
No my good friend, it's actually the other way round. JW is what she was born into and all she knew. She was so disappointed from seeing the inner workings that she knew she'd never trust organized religion again.

“Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God" Luke 18:19

DaddyCoool:
Of course she'd have quickly latched onto another church if she were excommunicated, but she left by herself. Lesson for you: don't try to see the inner workings or high-ups of JW - it is like seeing how hotdog is actually made - after that you can't bring yourself to eat it again!

She is lying to her own soul.

Jehovah's Witnesses organization is the best that has happened to me all my life!

MaxInDHouse:
“Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God" Luke 18:19

Well, "good" is a relative term. You are relatively good, but not as good as, say, God!

She is lying to her own soul.
Jehovah's Witnesses organization is the best that has happened to me all my life!

Well, that's you. You were NOT born and raised JW like her, and she didn't use to be a Muslim like you!
Just that she was so disillusioned by what she saw in inner-circle JW that she foreswore organized religion forever.

But she's a decent person and I attribute it to her being born and raised JW (I assume that's why), so I don't think JW is a bad cult in that respect!

MaxInDHouse:
The so called "FAKE JESUS" has been the reason why we have a global family of peace loving worshipers today called:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. 1Corinthians 2:14

He has been working with us in gathering humble, honest hearted, obedient and sincere individuals throughout the earth so that they have beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears, they don't lift up weapons against their neighbors nor do they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

Through the effort of this FAKE JESUS Jehovah is gradually bringing an end to war throughout the earth among His true worshipers {Psalms 46:9} but as for those who failed to see Jesus they are still fighting and killing themselves {Revelations 6:3-4} and ruining the planet with their destructive devices {Revelations 11:18} so our Master, Lord and King said he will slaughter all of them {Luke 19:27} because they failed to acknowledge his presence but as for us to avoid confusion since you people also claim Christians our God will call us by another group name:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15 compare to Isaiah 43:10

My dear, your lies don't sell here

Just tell me how your fake Jesus fulfilled the scriptures about Jesus' coming I gave quoted so far. I have many more shockers for you.

MaxInDHouse:
YES!
And Jesus will bless them for killing the people whom they supposed to save through their preaching and teaching {1Timothy 4:16} and also kill their fellow believers with whom they supposed to preach about the Prince of Peace during wars in support of politicians! John 13:34-35

Guy you are a real disciples of Christ jọọ don't mind me!

That's your own cup of tea. All I know is that the Church is not represented in the Ukraine and Russia war, neither in any war whatsoever.

Just tell me the Church or Churches that sent an army into that war.

DaddyCoool:
Well, "good" is a relative term. You are relatively good, but not as good as, say, God!

So addressing me "GOOD" is unwarranted my guy!

DaddyCoool:
Well, that's you. You were NOT born and raised JW like her, and she didn't use to be a Muslim like you!
Just that she was so disillusioned by what she saw in inner-circle JW that she foreswore organized religion forever.
But she's a decent person and I attribute it to her being born and raised JW (I assume that's why), so I don't think JW is a bad cult in that respect!

If JWs raises decent members that you addressed as GOOD then it's up to you! Matthew 7:16-18

GothamCities:
My dear, your lies don't sell here

Just tell me how your fake Jesus fulfilled the scriptures about Jesus' coming I gave quoted so far. I have many more shockers for you.

If all the evidences i gave are LIES to you it means you can't SEE Jesus because he is no longer in human form he is now a mighty spirit King whose works people are seeing globally today as he is using his group (JWs) to fulfill God's promises!

Satan is the killer {John 10:10} not humans {Luke 23:34; Act 7:60} those fighting and killing their neighbours and fellow worshipers today are under the influence of DEMONS {Revelations 6:3-4} so if Jehovah's Witnesses have expelled those demons possessing former killers and transformed them to peace lovers then you are judging yourself now {Matthew 12:28} whoever blasphem Holy Spirit by speaking against its obvious fine works will never be forgiven! Matthew 12:31-32

GothamCities:
That's your own cup of tea. All I know is that the Church is not represented in the Ukraine and Russia war, neither in any war whatsoever. Just tell me the Church or Churches that sent an army into that war.

Church is not represented but soldiers fighting and killing people are Christians.

MaxInDHouse:
You acknowledged people killing their neighbours and fellow worshipers as Christians shey?

GothamCities:
Yes, they're Christians. That doesn't mean they're perfect people.

Ọmọ you can run but you can't hide from the truth!

MaxInDHouse:
So addressing me "GOOD" is unwarranted my guy!


If JWs raises decent members that you addressed as GOOD then it's up to you! Matthew 7:16-18

Well, it's better than addressing you as bad, ain't it?
I said "my good friend", I didn't say "my VERY good friend" neither did I say "my best friend". So it's nothing to brag about, nor something to drag with God about. It is a common coloquialism!

I never said JW are bad people, just misguided. I mean, Mormons are also decent people, but they sincerely believe with all their hearts that Jesus, after he resurrected, went to America and ultimately started their church! That's what they believe, doesn't mean they're not decent people

Mormons view military service as a civic duty to serve their country when necessary, and also see it as a way to protect their families and religious freedoms.

People of Shingo, in Japan, are also decent people, but see what they believe below

DaddyCoool:
Well, it's better than addressing you as bad, ain't it?
I said "my good friend", I didn't say "my VERY good friend" neither did I say "my best friend". So it's nothing to brag about, nor something to drag with God about. It is a common coloquialism!

I never said JW are bad people, just misguided. I mean, Mormons are also decent people, but they sincerely believe with all their hearts that Jesus, after he resurrected, went to America and ultimately started their church! That's what they believe, doesn't mean they're not decent people

Mormons view military service as a civic duty to serve their country when necessary, and also see it as a way to protect their families and religious freedoms.

People of Shingo, in Japan, are also decent people, but see what they believe below

Christianity is one global family of peace loving worshipers so the choice is yours i just introduced the only true Christian organization to you!

MaxInDHouse:
Christianity is one global family of peace loving worshipers so the choice is yours i just introduced the only true Christian organization to you!

Could you, My good buddy, please reconcile this your statement with this below

DaddyCoool:
Could you, My good buddy, please reconcile this your statement with this below

Why do you think Jesus was accused?
Why do you think the apostles were accused?

Accusations doesn't nullify the fact that JW organization is the only true Christian group.

Look at the sky and see it's brightness. well that's what God called "light" {Genesis 1:3} the truth remains that no artificial light is brighter than the sky but looking critically at the sky you will see dark spots so anyone could point to the dark spots in the sky and accuse the ONE who declared "light" saying there are dark spots but nobody can present a brighter light than what GOD declared GOOD. Matthew 5:14-16 compare to Genesis 1:4

MaxInDHouse:
Why do you think Jesus was accused?
Why do you think the apostles were accused?

Accusations doesn't nullify the fact that JW organization is the only true Christian group.

Look at the sky and see it's brightness. well that's what God called "light" {Genesis 1:3} the truth remains that no artificial light is brighter than the sky but looking critically at the sky you will see dark spots so anyone could point to the dark spots in the sky and accuse the ONE who declared "light" saying there are dark spots but nobody can present a brighter light than what GOD declared GOOD. Matthew 5:14-16 compare to Genesis 1:4

You think this woman below would agree that there are only "dark spots"?