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MaxInDHouse:
I love the brainwashing but calling you my brother!
God forbid!

Father, forgive him, for he knows not what he's doing

Janosky:
Did the Jesus you claim to follow, worship 2 persons?
Bring the evidence from your Bible.
Or:
Continue WAILING and spilling GIBBERISH.

Did I ever claim to worship 2 persons? Bring the evidence from my conversations.

Janosky:
Tueh !

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

people like you spat at Jesus Christ too, for saying the truth:

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire


Mat 26:67  Then they spat in His face and beat Him with their fists; and others slapped Him,

Janosky:

You are very confused indeed.
"Came/Come from" meaning Place or Source of origin of a being. In the spiritual realm Jehovah is Always the Father of Jesus,Revelation 3:14,21.
The expression "Jesus came from" indicates his origin.
Only Jehovah God his Father is Everlasting, without beginning, Psalms 90:1-3.
Gotham,
Trinity confused you.

My question to you:
Where did Jehovah God come from?



God head invented by Trinitarians is not in any Greek manuscripts or .Septuagint .
Go and verify this fact.

Did Jesus your Master worship 2 persons?
Please Continue in your folly.



You know nothing about the Bible you hide in your cupboard to gather dust.



3 forms & deities invented at Nicene in 326 AD & 381 AD.
Go and study your Trinitarian godfathers history.


Is jesus Christ the Promised Seed @ Genesis 3:15 ?
Yes.
Did Jesus defeated Satan the original serpent,@ Revelation 12:7-9 & 1st John 3:8?
Yes.
Did Revelation 12:7-9 identify the original serpent of . Genesis 3:15?
Yes.
Did archangel Michael defeat the Prince of Persia (aka Satan the original serpent.@ Daniel 12:1 /Daniel 10:13?
Yes.
Jesus Christ is the archangel Michael jare, 1 John 3:8 , the same apostle John wrote 1 John 3:8 & Rev 12:7-9.
Concrete, solid interesting fact.

This Bible truth is not for kids & shallow minded church goers.
Martin Luther is not shallow minded church goer, he get strong liver well well to challenge the Catholic Church & announce his belief in Jesus the archangel Michael.

My God, you spill all these gibberish and call yourself a Christian? That's why you're so spiritually shallow and limited. Half truth is more dangerous than whole lies. You have a very big spiritual problem because you've fed your soul with so much nonsense that you're already lost. Only Christ can recover you.

Every commentary insisted that the verse regarding Jesus being from everlasting shows He is from the eternal past. There's no angel that is from everlasting. Jesus is called The only Begotten Son of the Father for good reasons. I cannot be arguing with you on this. If you've decided to be blind, may your blindness remain. Trying to twist the scriptures can't save you from the eternal implications of what the Scriptures you twisted stand for. You can only deceive yourself during this ephemeral moments of earthly life to feel good. The eternal consequences of your choices will eventually dan on you.

There's no title God bears that Jesus doesn't bear. Is God the Everlasting Father, so is Jesus according to the Scriptures. Is He the Beginning and the Ending, so is Jesus. Angel Michael is not the Everlasting Father, neither is he the Mighty God, and can never be! You actually have to be bewitched to entertain that thought, let alone believing it.

Revelation 12:7-9 is still future. If Jesus is Michael, did Jesus return to.heavrn to go continue as Michael to fight the Dragon? Infact, ordinary common sense should tell you through this verse that Jesus and Michael are not the same entity.

Small boys like you should not actually be talking where adults are but I'll school you a bit regarding your self deceit about Luther's position on the Trinity.

Martin Luther firmly believed in the doctrine of the Trinity. Listen carefully. Luther accepted the traditional Christian understanding of the Trinity, which holds that there is one God in three distinct persons: the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit.

Luther's affirmation of the Trinity can be seen in his writings, such as:

1. The Small Catechism (1529): Luther's explanation of the Apostles' Creed, where he explicitly affirms the Trinity.

2. The Large Catechism (1530): Luther's more detailed explanation of the Creed, which reiterates his commitment to the Trinity.

3. On the Councils and the Church (1539): Luther defends the orthodox doctrine of the Trinity against the errors of the Anabaptists and other sects.

Luther's Trinitarian theology emphasized the importance of:

1. The unity and coequality of the three persons of the Trinity
2. The distinct roles and works of each person (e.g., the Father as Creator, the Son as Redeemer, and the Holy Spirit as Sanctifier)
3. The Trinity as a fundamental aspect of Christian doctrine and worship

Yes, Luther's theology challenged certain aspects of Catholic doctrine and practice, his commitment to the Trinity remained unwavering because it was among the truths delivered by the Apostles' Creed.

Get knowledge and stop being fooled by those satanists in the US. They have deceived you enough!

The Apostle's Creed itself emphasises the Trinity. The fact that you're referencing Luther to defend your position shows that you're deeply ignorant. Luther is not even our final say. The Bible is our final say. I will not accept the words of Luther if he contradicts the Bible. Luther is not my God, as your GBs are to you.

No human has perfect theology, hence , every child of God has the responsibility to take his views from the Scriptures and not from men.

Janosky:

You are very confused indeed.
"Came/Come from" meaning Place or Source of origin of a being. In the spiritual realm Jehovah is Always the Father of Jesus,Revelation 3:14,21.
The expression "Jesus came from" indicates his origin.
Only Jehovah God his Father is Everlasting, without beginning, Psalms 90:1-3.
Gotham,
Trinity confused you.

My question to you:
Where did Jehovah God come from?



God head invented by Trinitarians is not in any Greek manuscripts or .Septuagint .
Go and verify this fact.

But how can Jehovah who was ALONE have a son? Have you ever asked yourself that? Can't you see that the "son" can only be part of Jehovah, Jehovah himself?
Your JW Bible (NWT) agrees that "in the beginning was the Word" NOT "the Word came into being or was created in the beginning". The Word pre-existed the beginning and was ALWAYS with God!

Also, your JW NWT says in Collosians 2:9 "For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body." This is your own JW doctored Bible admitting these o

LordReed:
The bolded makes it clear there is no further need to engage with you on this topic.

No, your refusal to rebut the submissions from the answersin genesis link for your geological evidence does that.

Image123:
No, your refusal to rebut the submissions from the answersin genesis link for your geological evidence does that.

Go look at my response to you about Answersingenesis.

DaddyCoool:
Father, forgive him, for he knows not what he's doing

For calling a liar "brother" shey?

Jesus will never address an unrepentant liar as brother! John 8:44
So if you view me as a liar while i stick to my faith that you called lie that makes you a hypocrite meaning you know i'm telling the truth but you will not accept it yet you want me to be your brother in faith!

LordReed:
Go look at my response to you about Answersingenesis.

It made no sense. You said "Answersingenesis.org is not a scientific journal." i showed you that the page in reference is written by a scientist, a Ph.D Geologist. Almost everything he wrote on that particular link are geologically relevant. It's like a scientist talking on television and we discard him because what he is saying is on TV not in a journal.

MaxInDHouse:
For calling a liar "brother" shey?

Jesus will never address an unrepentant liar as brother! John 8:44
So if you view me as a liar while i stick to my faith that you called lie that makes you a hypocrite meaning you know i'm telling the truth but you will not accept it yet you want me to be your brother in faith!

I've said severally you are MISGUIDED, which of course goes with repeating LIES you've been fed. Doesn't make you any less member of human brotherhood, all descendants of Adam and Eve, and even more so when you profess belief in salvation through our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ

Image123:
It made no sense. You said "Answersingenesis.org is not a scientific journal." i showed you that the page in reference is written by a scientist, a Ph.D Geologist. Almost everything he wrote on that particular link are geologically relevant. It's like a scientist talking on television and we discard him because what he is saying is on TV not in a journal.

Why not just tell him what you told me to end the argument - that miracles were involved and anything is possible when miracles are involved

DaddyCoool:
I've said severally you are MISGUIDED, which of course goes with repeating LIES you've been fed. Doesn't make you any less member of human brotherhood, all descendants of Adam and Eve, and even more so when you profess belief in salvation through our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.

So Pharisees weren't human brotherhood when Jesus called them Satan's children? John 8:44
Or Jesus was out of his mind when he said it's only his fellow believers that are his family? Matthew 12:46-50

Continue deceiving yourself.

Jesus clarified the two:
All humans are neighbours no matter where they come from but only those related to us are brothers that's why you can never ever be my brother because you and i aren't related in any way.
You can deny Jesus again after all you said his statement regarding "rumors of war" makes no sense to you!

Image123:
It made no sense. You said "Answersingenesis.org is not a scientific journal." i showed you that the page in reference is written by a scientist, a Ph.D Geologist. Almost everything he wrote on that particular link are geologically relevant. It's like a scientist talking on television and we discard him because what he is saying is on TV not in a journal.

That's your business. You asked me what I would consider as expertise and I specified scientific journal publication as one criteria.

MaxInDHouse:
So Pharisees weren't human brotherhood when Jesus called them Satan's children? John 8:44
Or Jesus was out of his mind when he said it's only his fellow believers that are his family? Matthew 12:46-50

Continue deceiving yourself.

Jesus clarified the two:
All humans are neighbours no matter where they come from but only those related to us are brothers that's why you can never ever be my brother because you and i aren't related in any way.
You can deny Jesus again after all you said his statement regarding "rumors of war" makes no sense to you!

You are repeating LIES told you again. In Matthew 12:48-50 Christ specifically said your brother is NOT who is related to you by blood.

And in the story of good Samaritan He specifically said your neighbor is NOT everybody but who comes to your aid in time of trouble.
So if you're going to be strict constructionist about the bible, start there!

DaddyCoool:
Why not just tell him what you told me to end the argument - that miracles were involved and anything is possible when miracles are involved

Because i told him that several times over the years but he keeps forgetting.

LordReed:
That's your business. You asked me what I would consider as expertise and I specified scientific journal publication as one criteria.

You're not ready.

Image123:
You're not ready.

LoLz. Says the one who is dismissed the very publication he asked me to look at.

LordReed:
LoLz. Says the one who is dismissed the very publication he asked me to look at.

Answersingenesis? Nah. The other publications simply affirmed the scientist status of Snelling.

Image123:
Answersingenesis? Nah. The other publications simply affirmed the scientist status of Snelling.

YOU posted the researchgate link.

LordReed:
YOU posted the researchgate link.

And clearly stated the reason.

Image123:
And clearly stated the reason.

Again that's your business I stated my criteria very clearly.

Image123:
Because i told him that several times over the years but he keeps forgetting.

LordReed, true?
That's how the argument was ended when I kept pointing ways the Noah story doesn't make scientific sense

Image123:
Because i told him that several times over the years but he keeps forgetting.

LordReed, true?
That's how the argument was ended when I kept pointing out ways the Noah/arc story doesn't make scientific sense

DaddyCoool:
LordReed, true?
That's how the argument was ended when I kept pointing ways the Noah story doesn't make scientific sense

Dude came to me about scientific evidence but wants to pivot. LoLz.

Of course a story can have any magical bullshìt the author wants it to have and you can't argue with it but real life ain't a fairytale with magic.

Image123:
Because i told him that several times over the years but he keeps forgetting.

Why are you being disingenuous? Did this conversation begin with you claiming it was a miracle or you asking about scientific expertise?

LordReed:
Dude came to me about scientific evidence but wants to pivot. LoLz.

Of course a story can have any magical bullshìt the author wants it to have and you can't argue with it but real life ain't a fairytale with magic.

In that case you need to have an agreement about it in advance, otherwise once miracle is mentioned that's the end of any argument based on logic

DaddyCoool:
You are repeating LIES told you again. In Matthew 12:48-50 Christ specifically said your brother is NOT who is related to you by blood.

Jesus specifically said he is attached only to those RELATED to him by faith.
In the story Jesus questioned the blood relationship and gave high credence to relationship based on faith.
That shows people can be related by other means like BLOOD, BUSINESS and of course FAITH.

DaddyCoool:
And in the story of good Samaritan He specifically said your neighbor is NOT everybody but who comes to your aid in time of trouble.
So if you're going to be strict constructionist about the bible, start there!

Here Jesus is talking about NEIGHBOUR not BROTHER!

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus specifically said he is attached only to those RELATED to him by faith.
In the story Jesus questioned the blood relationship and gave high credence to relationship based on faith.
That shows people can be related by other means like BLOOD, BUSINESS and of course FAITH.


Here Jesus is talking about NEIGHBOUR not brother!

Can you read English? See the exact quotes below (from your JW NWT version!).

My point is, the Bible says many things. if you insist on strictness, you can't cherrypick which to be strict about!

47  So someone said to him: “Look! Your mother and your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak to you.” 48  In reply he said to the one who spoke to him: “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49  And extending his hand toward his disciples, he said: “Look! My mother and my brothers!+ 50  For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, that one is my brother and sister and mother.”+

And here's who He says is your neighbor NOT everybody (this is your NWT version o)

29  But wanting to prove himself righteous, the man said to Jesus: “Who really is my neighbor?” 30  In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jerʹi·cho and fell victim to robbers, who stripped him, beat him, and went off, leaving him half-dead. 31  Now by coincidence a priest was going down on that road, but when he saw him, he passed by on the opposite side. 32  Likewise, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the opposite side. 33  But a certain Sa·marʹi·tani traveling the road came upon him, and at seeing him, he was moved with pity. 34  So he approached him and bandaged his wounds, pouring oil...
36  Who of these three seems to you to have made himself neighborj to the man who fell victim to the robbers?” 37  He said: “The one who acted mercifully toward him.”

DaddyCoool:
In that case you need to have an agreement about it in advance, otherwise once miracle is mentioned that's the end of any argument based on logic

Exactly. Which is one of the reasons why I ended the conversation with him. We start with science then he tries to include magic, well, bye then.

DaddyCoool:
Can you read English? See the exact quotes below (from your JW NWT version!).
My point is, the Bible says many things. if you insist on strictness, you can't cherrypick which to be strict about!
47  So someone said to him: “Look! Your mother and your BROTHERS are standing outside, seeking to speak to you.” 48  In reply he said to the one who spoke to him: “Who is my mother, and who are my BROTHERS?” 49  And extending his hand toward his disciples, he said: “Look! My mother and my brothers!+ 50  For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, that one is my brother and sister and mother.”+
And here's who He says is your neighbor NOT everybody (this is your NWT version o)
29  But wanting to prove himself righteous, the man said to Jesus: “Who really is my NEIGHBOR?” 30  In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jerʹi·cho and fell victim to robbers, who stripped him, beat him, and went off, leaving him half-dead. 31  Now by coincidence a priest was going down on that road, but when he saw him, he passed by on the opposite side. 32  Likewise, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the opposite side. 33  But a certain Sa·marʹi·tani traveling the road came upon him, and at seeing him, he was moved with pity. 34  So he approached him and bandaged his wounds, pouring oil...
36  Who of these three seems to you to have made himself neighborj to the man who fell victim to the robbers?” 37  He said: “The one who acted mercifully toward him.”

NEIGHBOUR is anyone living we must love them as we love ourselves. Mark 12:31

BROTHER is someone to whom we are RELATED it may be through BLOOD, through BUSINESS or through FAITH. Matthew 12:46-50

You are not related to me in any way so you're not my BROTHER but NEIGHBOUR!

LordReed:
Exactly. Which is one of the reasons why I ended the conversation with him. We start with science then he tries to include magic, well, bye then.

Not quite. Don’t necessarily end the conversation with him. Just have him implicitly admit that without miracles he's lost the argument

DaddyCoool:
Not quite. Don’t necessarily end the conversation with him. Just have him implicitly admit that without miracles he's lost the argument

LoLz. I have tried but he would never admit that, he is too stuck up.