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Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 2:44pm On Jan 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
NEIGHBOUR is anyone living we must love them as we love ourselves. Mark 12:31

BROTHER is someone to whom we are RELATED it may be through BLOOD, through BUSINESS or through FAITH. Matthew 12:46-50

You are not related to me in any way so you're not my BROTHER but NEIGHBOUR! smiley
He still doesn't get it.
My point is, if you'd be so strict in interpreting the Bible that other believers in Christ are NOT your brothers, then you have to also exclude your blood relatives who are not JW.

And likewise your neighbor can't be everybody. From below "neighbor" has to be limited to those who will be there for you in times of trouble - NOT everybody.

THIS IS WHO IS YOUR BROTHER!
47  So someone said to him: “Look! Your mother and your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak to you.” 48  In reply he said to the one who spoke to him: “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49  And extending his hand toward his disciples, he said: “Look! My mother and my brothers!+ 50  For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, that one is my brother and sister and mother.”

AND THIS IS WHO IS YOUR NEIGHBOR!
29  But wanting to prove himself righteous, the man said to Jesus: “Who really is my neighbor?” 30  In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jerʹi·cho and fell victim to robbers, who stripped him, beat him, and went off, leaving him half-dead. 31  Now by coincidence a priest was going down on that road, but when he saw him, he passed by on the opposite side. 32  Likewise, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the opposite side. 33  But a certain Sa·marʹi·tani traveling the road came upon him, and at seeing him, he was moved with pity. 34  So he approached him and bandaged his wounds, pouring oil and wine on them. ..
Who of these three seems to you to have made himself neighbor to the man who fell victim to the robbers?” 37  He said: “The one who acted mercifully toward him.”
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:14pm On Jan 19, 2025
DaddyCoool:
He still doesn't get it.
My point is, if you'd be so strict in interpreting the Bible that other believers in Christ are NOT your brothers, then you have to also exclude your blood relatives who are not JW.
You're the one worrying yourself when it is as simple as ABC.
Even if i have to relate with someone as my BROTHER it must be someone i know and had dealings with like family or business associate or fellow believer. Such ones i can discuss what is troubling me with not STRANGER like you so that's why you never qualified to be my brother.

DaddyCoool:
And likewise your neighbor can't be everybody. From below "neighbor" has to be limited to those who will be there for you in times of trouble - NOT everybody.
The Samaritan made himself neighbour to the Jew they never knew each other from anywhere so he never expected it from him.
That's what Jesus meant by loving your neighbour like yourself {Mark 12:31} this means how you would have loved to be treated but when it comes to BROTHERS in faith Jesus commanded us to have love among ourselves the same kind of love he had for his disciples! John 13:34-35

I know you can't grasp the difference!

The neighbourly love is how i love myself so helping my neighbour may cost my life i have the option to walk away that's what i expected from any stranger but when it comes to my fellow believer i must be willing to die for my brother in faith just as Jesus did. John 15:12-13

Do you get it now? smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 3:40pm On Jan 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You're the one worrying yourself when it is as simple as ABC.
Even if i have to relate with someone as my BROTHER it must be someone i know and had dealings with like family or business associate or fellow believer. Such ones i can discuss what is troubling me with not STRANGER like you so that's why you never qualified to be my brother.


The Samaritan made himself neighbour to the Jew they never knew each other from anywhere so he never expected it from him.
That's what Jesus meant by loving your neighbour like yourself {Mark 12:31} this means how you would have loved to be treated but when it comes to BROTHERS in faith Jesus commanded us to have love among ourselves the same kind of love he had for his disciples! John 13:34-35

I know you can't grasp the difference!

The neighbourly love is how i love myself so helping my neighbour may cost my life i have the option to walk away that's what i expected from any stranger but when it comes to my fellow believer i must be willing to die for my brother in faith just as Jesus did. John 15:12-13

Do you get it now? smiley
Get what?
I just showed you with verbatim quotations from your JW Bible that strict interpretation means your brothers are ONLY JW! And your neighbor is NOT everybody (or Christ would have simply answered "everybody"}. Instead he gave a long parable to illustrate what neighbor meant.

That's what strict interpretation gets you. Either accept that or admit that the Bible says many things and has to be nuanced in places!
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 3:47pm On Jan 19, 2025
GothamCities, below is my post that shut up
Janosky and MaxInDHouse :

DaddyCoool:
But how can Jehovah who was ALONE have a son? Have you ever asked yourself that? Can't you see that the "son" can only be part of Jehovah, Jehovah himself?
Your JW Bible (NWT) agrees that "in the beginning was the Word" NOT that "the Word came into being or was created in the beginning". The Word pre-existed the beginning and was ALWAYS with God!

Also, your JW NWT says in Collosians 2:9 "For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body." This is your own JW doctored Bible admitting these o
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Image123(m): 4:16pm On Jan 19, 2025
LordReed:
Again that's your business I stated my criteria very clearly.
Your criteria was met, i provided your approved scientist to talk on the subject. You refuse to take his talk on the subject but chose to choose other convenient things.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Image123(m): 4:21pm On Jan 19, 2025
LordReed:
Why are you being disingenuous? Did this conversation begin with you claiming it was a miracle or you asking about scientific expertise?
We didn't start talking with THIS conversation, did we. We've been talking for years i suppose. i asked you the science angle and your requirements in THIS conversation. i have been telling you about faith and your huge misuse of your faith for years. Your faith is in science, it doesn't have to be limited to this like i always said. It's what i tried explaining to DaddyCoool.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 4:33pm On Jan 19, 2025
Image123:
We didn't start talking with THIS conversation, did we. We've been talking for years i suppose. i asked you the science angle and your requirements in THIS conversation. i have been telling you about faith and your huge misuse of your faith for years. Your faith is in science, it doesn't have to be limited to this like i always said. It's what i tried explaining to DaddyCoool.
And I accepted your explanation indicating you've lost the scientific argument while conceding I lost the holistic argument. (Holistic includes things science can't explain, things we don't know, things we know wrong, and things we don't know that we don't know)
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:39pm On Jan 19, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Get what?
I just showed you with verbatim quotations from your JW Bible that strict interpretation means your brothers are ONLY JW! And your neighbor is NOT everybody (or Christ would have simply answered "everybody"}. Instead he gave a long parable to illustrate what neighbor meant.
That's what strict interpretation gets you. Either accept that or admit that the Bible says many things and has to be nuanced in places!
Suit yourself, i'm not your brother, i can't be your brother and i can never ever be your brother o!cheesy
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:40pm On Jan 19, 2025
DaddyCoool:
GothamCities, below is my post that shut up
Janosky and MaxInDHouse :
OK you expect us to continue arguing aimlessly with you shey? cheesy
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by GothamCities(op):
DaddyCoool:
GothamCities, below is my post that shut up
Janosky and MaxInDHouse :
Lol.

Thanks for shutting them up using their own doctored Bible. They know they have no answers but rather than sit down and examine the falsehoods in their hands, they'll keep going on in their delusions because they want to please the men of their organization and avoid being excommunicated.

Is it not rather good to be excommunicated by man than to be excommunicated by God?
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:58pm On Jan 19, 2025
GothamCities:
Lol.

Thanks for shutting them up using their own doctored Bible. They know they have no answers but rather than sit down and examine the falsehoods in their hands, they'll keep going on in their delusions because they want to please the men of their organization and avoid being excommunicated.

Is it not rather good to be excommunicated by man than to to. excommunicated by God?
Continue deceiving yourself! smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by LordReed(m): 5:07pm On Jan 19, 2025
Image123:
Your criteria was met, i provided your approved scientist to talk on the subject. You refuse to take his talk on the subject but chose to choose other convenient things.
Then you dismissed even what you brought as scientific evidence in favour of magic.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by LordReed(m): 5:19pm On Jan 19, 2025
Image123:
We didn't start talking with THIS conversation, did we. We've been talking for years i suppose. i asked you the science angle and your requirements in THIS conversation. i have been telling you about faith and your huge misuse of your faith for years. Your faith is in science, it doesn't have to be limited to this like i always said. It's what i tried explaining to DaddyCoool.
Well then I am not interested in talking about magic with you. When you have evidence that can be verified let me know.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Image123(m): 6:21pm On Jan 19, 2025
DaddyCoool:
And I accepted your explanation indicating you've lost the scientific argument while conceding I lost the holistic argument. (Holistic includes things science can't explain, things we don't know, things we know wrong, and things we don't know that we don't know)
We never had a scientific argument, talk less of winning or losing one.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Image123(m): 6:28pm On Jan 19, 2025
LordReed:
Then you dismissed even what you brought as scientific evidence in favour of magic.
In the first place, i did not bring it as scientific evidence, i brought the answersingenesis link for your consideration.
https://answersingenesis.org/the-flood/global/evidences-genesis-flood/?srsltid=AfmBOorKOBH3FZYZBvcRrvTVOqMtxhv3_9kLjH5osBXlBGvUOzPDC5Gk

i only added the other link for you to verify your requirements that the writer was indeed a Ph.D in Geology with papers in scientific journals. But you insist on stating it as evidence when i never made it one.
In the second place, i did not dismiss his writings but the rebuttal that you put forth which focused on the Grand Canyon and left every other thing that Snelling mentioned. Snelling's PROPOSING that ice melted is not evidence, is it? Or is a proposal a fact? If you want to talk in terms of science, read the answersingenesis link and fault it scientifically, not all these pussyfooting.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Image123(m): 6:30pm On Jan 19, 2025
LordReed:
Well then I am not interested in talking about magic with you. When you have evidence that can be verified let me know.
i don't know anything about magic. If you refer to miracles, i did not bring up a discussion on miracles with you, did i? When you have a scientific rebuttal to the link that i gave you, let me know instead of lazy excuses.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by LordReed(m): 6:46pm On Jan 19, 2025
Image123:
i don't know anything about magic. If you refer to miracles, i did not bring up a discussion on miracles with you, did i? When you have a scientific rebuttal to the link that i gave you, let me know instead of lazy excuses.
LoLz. Says the guy who dismissed the very thing he linked to. Find someone else who wants to discuss magic or miracles with you, I am not interested.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by LordReed(m):
Image123:
In the first place, i did not bring it as scientific evidence, i brought the answersingenesis link for your consideration.
https://answersingenesis.org/the-flood/global/evidences-genesis-flood/?srsltid=AfmBOorKOBH3FZYZBvcRrvTVOqMtxhv3_9kLjH5osBXlBGvUOzPDC5Gk

i only added the other link for you to verify your requirements that the writer was indeed a Ph.D in Geology with papers in scientific journals. But you insist on stating it as evidence when i never made it one.
In the second place, i did not dismiss his writings but the rebuttal that you put forth which focused on the Grand Canyon and left every other thing that Snelling mentioned. Snelling's PROPOSING that ice melted is not evidence, is it? Or is a proposal a fact? If you want to talk in terms of science, read the answersingenesis link and fault it scientifically, not all these pussyfooting.
LoLz. When you have scientific journals you want to discuss lemme know.

BTW why are you lying? This is what you said when you posted the researchgate link:

Image123:
Nonetheless, i will give you links to his works published in a scientific journal, although i know your rigmarole.
https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Andrew-A-Snelling-2009962514
Where in it do you say you are posting it to verify his credentials? Nah, you were hoping I would be as disingenuous as you and not read anything.

Pussyfooting lazy arse here is you.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by GothamCities(op): 6:48pm On Jan 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself! smiley
You can't say that to someone who is a living proof of the God he serves.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m):
GothamCities:
You can't say that to someone who is a living proof of the God he serves.
Someone who can't point to one single fellow as his fellow believer instead after few conversation he'll turn to arguments, abuses, insults and curses all in the name of the same Jesus you all call your Lord!

Is that not why you are all ashamed of your churches but pointing at the only religion whose members are united in faith?smiley

Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Image123(m): 7:36pm On Jan 19, 2025
LordReed:
LoLz. Says the guy who dismissed the very thing he linked to. Find someone else who wants to discuss magic or miracles with you, I am not interested.
i did not bring up a discussion on miracles with you, did i? When you have a scientific rebuttal to the link that i gave you, let me know instead of lazy excuses.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by GothamCities(op): 7:53pm On Jan 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Someone who can't point to one single fellow as his fellow believer instead after few conversation he'll turn to arguments, abuses, insults and curses all in the name of the same Jesus you all call your Lord!

Is that not why you are all ashamed of your churches but pointing at the only religion whose members are united in faith?smiley
You've clearly described yourself.

Where are the curses, abuses, etc you're ascribing to me?

Christianity without proof is not Christianity. All those outward shows of Piety are just hogwash.

I am a living proof of the God i serve.
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Image123(m): 7:54pm On Jan 19, 2025
LordReed:
LoLz. When you have scientific journals you want to discuss lemme know.

BTW why are you lying? This is what you said when you posted the researchgate link:
You are the one lying here because you asked for the link as academic qualification that shows expertise in geology. Now, you are acting like the link is evidence of flood. You initially said that "A global flood will leave the same footprint all over the globe and not just geologically." Snelling gave you such but you chose to stick to the Grand Canyon narrrative that i dismissed.
Prove what is unscientific about the link that i gave you from answersingenesis, or are you really afraid of something?


Where in it do you say you are posting it to verify his credentials? Nah, you were hoping I would be as disingenuous as you and not read anything.

Pussyfooting lazy arse here is you.
Check the prior discussions and the image attached.

Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:59pm On Jan 19, 2025
GothamCities:
Where are the curses, abuses, etc you're ascribing to me?
Who is your brother in Christ on this thread with whom you've not exchanged insults?

Let me mention my own brothers in Christ:

Janoski, Aemmyjah and several other JWs.

Oya mention just one person if your so called "God" is the Bible God! smiley
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by gohf: 8:44pm On Jan 19, 2025
GothamCities:
Lol.

Thanks for shutting them up using their own doctored Bible. They know they have no answers but rather than sit down and examine the falsehoods in their hands, they'll keep going on in their delusions because they want to please the men of their organization and avoid being excommunicated.

Is it not rather good to be excommunicated by man than to be excommunicated by God?
😂😂 are you not deceiving yourself like the lie of a topic you wrote.. ALL DOUBTS CLEARED, it that not a lie, instead of clearing doubts you raised even more doubts
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by gohf: 9:10pm On Jan 19, 2025
DaddyCoool:
But how can Jehovah who was ALONE have a son? Have you ever asked yourself that? Can't you see that the "son" can only be part of Jehovah, Jehovah himself?
Your JW Bible (NWT) agrees that "in the beginning was the Word" NOT "the Word came into being or was created in the beginning". The Word pre-existed the beginning and was ALWAYS with God!

Also, your JW NWT says in Collosians 2:9 "For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body." This is your own JW doctored Bible admitting these o
You are always feeling wise in your folly.
But how can Jehovah who was ALONE have a son?
So how can Jehovah who according to you was alone create the whole universe?

I don't agree with JW but your error is also glaring
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 9:24pm On Jan 19, 2025
gohf:
You are always feeling wise in your folly.
But how can Jehovah who was ALONE have a son?
So how can Jehovah who according to you was alone create the whole universe?

I don't agree with JW but your error is also glaring
grin grin grin
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 9:37pm On Jan 19, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Father, forgive him, for he knows not what he's doing
Theos ("God" ) is not in the Greek manuscript of 1 Timothy 3:16.
Your Trinitarian mentors smuggled,ADDED "God" into that verse 16.
Go & verify that fact to cure your delusion.

Colossians 2:9 "fullness of deity" meaning "fullness of a god".
In Greek language deity means "a god. ".
Did Colossians 2:9 say "fullness of God Almighty?"

Not at all.

Madam, go and educate yourself.
Stop deceiving yourself spilling GIBBERISH.
grin grin
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 9:50pm On Jan 19, 2025
GothamCities:
Did I ever claim to worship 2 persons? Bring the evidence from my conversations.
This evidence confirmed by GothamCities worshipping 2 persons .
GothamCities:
GothamCities:
He (Jesus) is the Aloha and Omega, just as Jehovah Himself.
He is the Beginning and the Ending, just as Jehovah Himself. He (Jehovah) is the Everlasting Father just as Jesus Himself".
.
GothamCities confirms worshipping Jesus as he worshipping Jehovah.
GothamCities worshipping 2 persons.
grin grin grin grin

Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 10:08pm On Jan 19, 2025
DaddyCoool:
But how can Jehovah who was ALONE have a son? Have you ever asked yourself that? Can't you see that the "son" can only be part of Jehovah, Jehovah himself?
Did your Trinitarian Nicene Creed make your FALSE claim?
Madam spilling GIBBERISH.

grin
DaddyCoool:
Your JW Bible (NWT) agrees that "in the beginning was the Word" NOT "the Word came into being or was created in the beginning". The Word pre-existed the beginning and was ALWAYS with God!
What did John write in Revelation 3:14?
Jesus "is the beginning of the creation by God."

Paul ADDED, Jesus is the first born of every creature"
Madam, answer the question:
Is the first born of every child still a child?
Yes
Therefore,Jesus the first born of every creature is ALWAYS a creature.

DaddyCoool:
Also, your JW NWT says in Collosians 2:9 "For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body." This is your own JW doctored Bible admitting these o
Madam spilling GIBBERISH.
You invented that quote in your head, the Greek word at Colossians 2:9 is theotes,NOT Theos. (Screenshot evidence)

Madam , what do you gain by LYING?

grin cheesy

Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 10:24pm On Jan 19, 2025
DaddyCoool:
He still doesn't get it.
My point is, if you'd be so strict in interpreting the Bible that other believers in Christ are NOT your brothers, then you have to also exclude your blood relatives who are not JW.

And likewise your neighbor can't be everybody. From below "neighbor" has to be limited to those who will be there for you in times of trouble - NOT everybody.

THIS IS WHO IS YOUR BROTHER!
47  So someone said to him: “Look! Your mother and your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak to you.” 48  In reply he said to the one who spoke to him: “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49  And extending his hand toward his disciples, he said: “Look! My mother and my brothers!+ 50  For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, that one is my brother and sister and mother.”

AND THIS IS WHO IS YOUR NEIGHBOR!
29  But wanting to prove himself righteous, the man said to Jesus: “Who really is my neighbor?” 30  In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jerʹi·cho and fell victim to robbers, who stripped him, beat him, and went off, leaving him half-dead. 31  Now by coincidence a priest was going down on that road, but when he saw him, he passed by on the opposite side. 32  Likewise, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the opposite side. 33  But a certain Sa·marʹi·tani traveling the road came upon him, and at seeing him, he was moved with pity. 34  So he approached him and bandaged his wounds, pouring oil and wine on them. ..
Who of these three seems to you to have made himself neighbor to the man who fell victim to the robbers?” 37  He said: “The one who acted mercifully toward him.”
You have refused to understand Matthew 12:50 & Matthew 10:38

Jesus said his brother is the person following Jesus to do his Father's will.. (Matthew 10:33-38 = Matthew 12:47-50).


Jesus Christ did NOT worship 2 persons.
Believers in Christ (my Brother) can NOT worship 2 persons.

You either get it or you don't get it..
Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by DaddyCoool(f): 10:25pm On Jan 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Suit yourself, i'm not your brother, i can't be your brother and i can never ever be your brother o!cheesy
It is NOT up to you. This is a very tiny planet, populated entirely by two people and their offsprings. Whether you like it or not they're your brothers
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