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DaddyCoool:
GothamCities, below is my post that shut up
Janosky and MaxInDHouse :

Confused Trinitarian denying Nicene Creed dey yarn GIBBERISH.

gohf:
You are always feeling wise in your folly.
But how can Jehovah who was ALONE have a son?
So how can Jehovah who according to you was alone create the whole universe?

I don't agree with JW but your error is also glaring

You said "create", didn’t you?
Here's the Bible:
Colossians 1:16 - God created EVRRYTHING through his beloved Son, Jesus Christ.

John 1:3 - ALL things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made

Are you saying he was part of the everything that HE HIMSELF created?

Image123:
We never had a scientific argument, talk less of winning or losing one.

So what do you call what we were doing when you told me miracles were involved in Noah and arc?

GothamCities:
Lol.

Thanks for shutting them up using their own doctored Bible. They know they have no answers but rather than sit down and examine the falsehoods in their hands, they'll keep going on in their delusions because they want to please the men of their organization and avoid being excommunicated.

Is it not rather good to be excommunicated by man than to be excommunicated by God?

You quite welcome my brother. Something that's GLARINGLY obvious!

Janosky:
Did your Trinitarian Nicene Creed make your FALSE claim?
Madam spilling GIBBERISH.


What did John write in Revelation 3:14?
Jesus "is the beginning of the creation by God."

Paul ADDED, Jesus is the first born of every creature"
Madam, answer the question:
Is the first born of every child still a child?
Yes
Therefore,Jesus the first born of every creature is ALWAYS a creature.


Madam spilling GIBBERISH.
You invented that quote in your head, the Greek word at Colossians 2:9 is theotes,NOT Theos. (Screenshot evidence)

Madam , what do you gain by LYING?

Janosky:
Theos ("God" ) is not in the Greek manuscript of 1 Timothy 3:16.
Your Trinitarian mentors smuggled,ADDED "God" into that verse 16.
Go & verify that fact to cure your delusion.

Colossians 2:9 "fullness of deity" meaning "fullness of a god".
In Greek language deity means "a god. ".
Did Colossians 2:9 say "fullness of God Almighty?"

Not at all.

Madam, go and educate yourself.
Stop deceiving yourself spilling GIBBERISH.

You don't understand. The quote is from JW Bible verbatim, word for word.
Notice they didn't change it to "a god" as they did in John 1.
See it below.

Add to that these quotes:
Colossians 1:16 - God created EVRRYTHING through his beloved Son, Jesus Christ.

John 1:3 - ALL things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made

You could say these are mere words that could have been manipulated.
So above everything, add 2000+ years of glorious worship!

Janosky:
You have refused to understand Matthew 12:50 & Matthew 10:38

Jesus said his brother is the person following Jesus to do his Father's will.. (Matthew 10:33-38 = Matthew 12:47-50).


Jesus Christ did NOT worship 2 persons.
Believers in Christ (my Brother) can NOT worship 2 persons.

You either get it or you don't get it..

He missed the point.
Here's the point:
Even your blood is not your brother unless JW!

Janosky:
Confused Trinitarian denying Nicene Creed dey yarn GIBBERISH.

You are obviously the one confused.
Please explain to us how a "Son" who created EVERYTHING that was created, and who has ALWAYS been with an ALONE God, is NOT God!

DaddyCoool:
It is NOT up to you. This is a very tiny planet, populated entirely by two people and their offsprings. Whether you like it or not they're your brothers

Try to rewrite Jesus' statement {Matthew 12:46-50} at least it's in your own copy of the Bible!

MaxInDHouse:
Try to write Jesus' statement {Matthew 12:46-50} at least it's in your own copy of the Bible!

I already posted it for you in your JW (NWT) version. See it again below.
And I already told you, going by that, your blood relatives (mother, sister, brother) are NOT your relatives UNLESS they are JW!

See who is your brother, or mother, or sister:

47  So someone said to him: “Look! Your mother and your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak to you.” 48  In reply he said to the one who spoke to him: “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49  And extending his hand toward his disciples, he said: “Look! My mother and my brothers!+ 50  For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, that one is my brother and sister and mother.”

DaddyCoool:
He missed the point.
Here's the point:
Even your blood is not your brother unless JW!

Jesus said that because he is not from planet earth and he existed before the creation of the world so he is older than Adam and Eve but when he now said his disciples are his family he's talking about the SPIRITUAL FAMILY those worshiping in Spirit and Truth! John 4:24

So only Jehovah's Witnesses are my own brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, aunties and uncles according to Jesus' view point but even if i have to consider others as my brothers we must be related through business or blood in the natural sense such ones i do call them at least once in a week.

But you with whom i share nothing how on earth am i your brother?

You can acknowledge everyone as your brother but i BELIEVE/AGREE/TRUST what Jesus said regarding those who share the same line of thought with him on the matter of faith he said:

"Go to MY BROTHERS and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God." John 20:17b

What about Jews who refused to agree with him on the matter of faith?
Jesus said to them:

You are from YOUR FATHER the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of YOUR FATHER. John 8:44a

So it's clear according to Jesus whatever makes you disagree with me on the matter of faith means we are not of the same father so we can't be brothers but neighbours.

I will continue to expose your ignorance at least everyone can grasp this because it's as simple as ABC!

Janosky:
You have refused to understand Matthew 12:50 & Matthew 10:38
Jesus said his brother is the person following Jesus to do his Father's will.. (Matthew 10:33-38 = Matthew 12:47-50).
Jesus Christ did NOT worship 2 persons.
Believers in Christ (my Brother) can NOT worship 2 persons.
You either get it or you don't get it..

He is ashamed of his real brothers since they can easily pick up weapons against one another at the command of worldly politicians so he wants to misconstrue it all by claiming peace lovers are also his brothers whereas he disagreed completely with Jesus' way of ensuring peace!

DaddyCoool:
But how can Jehovah who was ALONE have a son? Have you ever asked yourself that? Can't you see that the "son" can only be part of Jehovah, Jehovah himself?
Your JW Bible (NWT) agrees that "in the beginning was the Word" NOT "the Word came into being or was created in the beginning". The Word pre-existed the beginning and was ALWAYS with God!

Also, your JW NWT says in Collosians 2:9 "For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body." This is your own JW doctored Bible admitting these o

Your brain needs small polishing walahi 😂

Aemmyjah:
Your brain needs small polishing walahi 😂

Each of them just fabricate his own idea which he or she wants to be taught that's why they can never ever agree.

What is the import of that phrase:
"In the beginning" if someone wasn't born at the time? Proverbs 8:22

Surely Jesus was born or created in the beginning then trained to create all other things! Proverbs 8:23-30 compare to Colossians 1:15

DaddyCoool:
You said "create", didn’t you?
Here's the Bible:
Colossians 1:16 - God created EVRRYTHING through his beloved Son, Jesus Christ.

John 1:3 - ALL things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made

Are you saying he was part of the everything that HE HIMSELF created?

I built the whole table with a hammer, without my hammer I wouldn't have built the table, all my furnitures were built with it.

Do you see how perplexing it is to call the hammer the creator?

Jesus was called out by God and used in commanding other things to be, creating and making them.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said that because he is not from planet earth and he existed before the creation of the world so he is older than Adam and Eve but when he now said his disciples are his family he's talking about the SPIRITUAL FAMILY those worshiping in Spirit and Truth! John 4:24

Brah (short for "brother"!), so your brainwashed self has finally seen there are nuances to the word "brother". @bolded "spiritual family" implies spiritual brother. If I call you brother it's not in the same sense I use it for my church member or younger brother.
"Bro, brother, etc." are common coloquialisms and only a brainwashing agent will insist you use it for only JW!

DaddyCoool:
Brah (short for "brother"!), so your brainwashed self has finally seen there are nuances to the word "brother". @bolded "spiritual family" implies spiritual brother. If I call you brother it's not in the same sense I use it for my church member or younger brother.
"Bro, brother, etc." are common coloquialisms and only a brainwashing agent will insist you only use it for only JW!

Go and convince Jesus who first insisted on using BROTHER only for his spiritual family!

gohf:
I built the whole table with a hammer, without my hammer I wouldn't have built the table, all my furnitures were built with it.

Do you see how perplexing it is to call the hammer the creator?

Jesus was called out by God and used in commanding other things to be, creating and making them.

See stupidity. I'm sure you can read: "BY HIM!!"
Your hammer didn't make anything!
John 1:3 - ALL things were made BY Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made
So obviously he himself was NOT made. Also, your hammer is not your son. This is God's "son"! But God doesn't go about having sons. Therefore this must have been part of God, God himself!

MaxInDHouse:
Go and convince Jesus who first insisted on using BROTHER only for his spiritual family!

But you are NOT Jesus and you just said you also use for mere blood brother!

DaddyCoool:
But you are NOT Jesus and you just said you also use for mere blood brother!

You're the one turning things over here because it's stupid to call a stranger my brother if we are not related in any way, you people may be used to such nonsense but the truth remains that if i don't know you but both of us are alive on this planet then we are neighbours i can only acknowledge someone as my brother if we are related through blood, business or faith.
Which means you are never and will never be my brother forever and ever!

MaxInDHouse:
Each of them just fabricate his own idea which he or she wants to be taught that's why they can never ever agree.

What is the import of that phrase:
"In the beginning" if someone wasn't born at the time? Proverbs 8:22

Surely Jesus was born or created in the beginning then trained to create all other things! Proverbs 8:23-30 compare to Colossians 1:15

Go and find out the difference between "in the beginning was God" and "In the beginning God came into being or God was created"
Hint: in one God was ALREADY there!

DaddyCoool:
Go and find out the difference between "in the beginning was God" and "In the beginning God came into being or God was created"
Hint: in one God was ALREADY there!

Jesus was CREATED in the beginning and that's what makes him to be with God in the beginning of creation God has no beginning so when John said the same was with God in the beginning it's clear that Jesus was CREATED in the beginning!

MaxInDHouse:
You're the one turning things over here because it's stupid to call a stranger my brother if we are not related in any way, you people may be used to such nonsense but the truth remains that if i don't know you but both of us are alive on this planet then we are neighbours i can only acknowledge someone as my brother if we are related through blood, business or faith.
Which means you are never and will never be my brother forever and ever!

Then you need to invent your own English. See definition of neighbor below.
On the other hand, brotherhood of man means yo u can coloquially call any man brother

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus was CREATED in the beginning and that's what makes him to be with God in the beginning of creation God has no beginning so when John said the same was with God in the beginning it's clear that Jesus was CREATED in the beginning!

Yeah? So why did the Bible say he created EVERYTHING. If he was created is he not part of the everything?? Meaning he created himself!

DaddyCoool:
Then you need to invent your own English. See definition of neighbor below. On the other hand, brotherhood of man means yo u can coloquially call any man brother

If you're chatting with me here when we don't know each other that makes us NEIGHBOURS on this forum because we come across each other but talking about BROTHER naaaaaaaaah never a person with whom i share nothing!

DaddyCoool:
Yeah? So why did the Bible say he created EVERYTHING. If he was created is he not part of the everything?? Meaning he created himself!

God created humans but everything we see like television, radio, mobile phones, Internet, aeroplane, skyscrapers are all CREATED by humans whom God created does that makes humans God?

MaxInDHouse:
If you're chatting with me here when we don't know each other that makes us NEIGHBOURS on this forum because we come across each other but talking about BROTHER naaaaaaaaah never a person with whom i share nothing!

BRAINWASHED!😅
It's the other way round! You can colloquially call any man brother, but NOT everyone is your neighbor! UNLESS you invent your own English!

MaxInDHouse:
God created humans but everything we see like television, radio, mobile phones, Internet, aeroplane, skyscrapers are all CREATED by humans whom God created does that makes humans God?

Nonsense. Humans created NOTHING. Just rearranged what's already there. Ever heard "matter can be neither created nor destroyed"
But even in the scenario you gave you can't say humans created EVERYTHING, as is said of Christ!

DaddyCoool:
BRAINWASHED!😅
It's the other way round! You can colloquially call any man brother, but NOT everyone is your neighbor! UNLESS you invent your own English!

According to the dictionary neighbour is anyone that comes around so it's not compulsory they must live near you.
The Samaritan never lived near the Jew that was attacked by robbers o!

DaddyCoool:
Nonsense. Humans created NOTHING. Just rearranged what's already there. Ever heard "matter can be neither created nor destroyed"
But even in the scenario you gave you can't say humans created EVERYTHING, as is said of Christ!

Everything else humans are using on this planet that's lifeless was CREATED by man jọọ!

MaxInDHouse:
Everything else humans are using on this planet that's lifeless was CREATED by man jọọ!

I don't think you know what create means. See below. Everything in existence is energy

MaxInDHouse:
According to the dictionary neighbour is anyone that comes around so it's not compulsory they must live near you.
The Samaritan never lived near the Jew that was attacked by robbers o!

Christ did not speak English.
In English neighbor means propinquity!

DaddyCoool:
I don't think you know what create means. See below. Everything in existence is energy

Perhaps your ancestors were using mobile phones two centuries ago after all energy existed in their time!