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Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by ppogba: 8:57pm On Jan 21, 2025
SadiqBabaSani:
Expect more legal wahala for Trump
That is what he will spend the whole of his second coming doing.
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by okoloto: 8:58pm On Jan 21, 2025
Other South American immigrants that don't care for paper when they enter will all be going back. But the question is who will be doing their jobs? Those guys are the technicians in America.
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by optimusprime2(m): 9:00pm On Jan 21, 2025
Thunderfayamods:
Na u be the judge wey close am?
I am just letting you know the process of lawsuits against executive orders, as long as it passes through the supreme Court (which is now majorly, conservative) the matter is as good as closed.


That democrat era is on break for now.
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by MT:
Flamemignon1:
Exactly, he also owns congress so we are doomed
We are not doomed.

Two Third approval of the congress is needed to amend the US constitution.

He can’t get that.

Trump is only playing to the gallery. He’s testing the US laws to its limit. Playing lottery with it.

He knows he can’t win it.
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by MT:
optimusprime2:
I am just letting you know the process of lawsuits against executive orders, as long as it passes through the supreme Court (which is now majorly, conservative) the matter is as good uas closed.


That democrat era is on break for now.
It’s not as good as closed.

Supreme Court was conservative leaning before the Supreme Court made him the first convicted felon President in the US history.

It doesn’t work that way.
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by AuthorMan: 9:03pm On Jan 21, 2025
What about legal people on visitors visa or tourist visa who give birth in America.
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by eepeepook: 9:05pm On Jan 21, 2025
Western media don win. No need to search hard for news. Trump breathes and they have headlines lined up. So long to Sleepy Joe and what’s-her-face. Profit wins at the end of the day. Ehen, have they finally presented proof of Russia tampering with elections? Should we wait for two extra years when nobody will care? Lol. It seems the story didn’t stick this time. Trump won fair and square this past election.
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by miketayo(m): 9:07pm On Jan 21, 2025
Welcum:
If not democracy, Hitler de learn work where Trump dey.
Because he wants what is best for his country
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by TOPCRUISE(m): 9:09pm On Jan 21, 2025
Other countries should do the same.
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by optimusprime2(m): 9:09pm On Jan 21, 2025
MT:
It’s not as good as closed.

Supreme Court was conservative leaning before the Supreme Court made him the first convicted felon in the US history.

It doesn’t work that way.
Oga,

He was not the President then, he is the president now ... two very different cases.

If he cites where his order is for national security, & gets GOP backing (which he will get definitely), the case is as good as closed.

GOP backing on a National security situation with a conservative supreme Court... please do the math.
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by miketayo(m): 9:11pm On Jan 21, 2025
oyeb15:
One man in our street then had all his children US citizens. He will smuggle his wife to US whenever her pregnancy is heavy and return to Nigeria after birth.

If we want to beat them in secondary school, they will be threatening us that they are US citizens...that we shouldn't get Nigeria into trouble...

It's a stupid law. Thank u Trump
Lmao 🤣
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by Yankee101: 9:12pm On Jan 21, 2025
It has begun
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by IMAliyu2: 9:21pm On Jan 21, 2025
powerkey:
Idiots who can't go to court in their home countries will have the temerity to sue a president. Deport all of them to their Islamic countries.
Didn't know Mexico was an Islamic country.
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by djon78(m): 9:21pm On Jan 21, 2025
Starzo:
All blue states

It will eventually end at the supreme Court
Not supreme court


Because it doesn't have jurisdiction to do it. Rather it will require constitutional amendment. Needing votes from both the republican and democrats 2/3 majority and support from States legislature too

This one pass Trump. He can't withstand the battle to come.
Remember he was impeached during his first tenure.
So he better thread with care and not attract unnecessary enemies to himself.

I believe he should have learnt his lesson because the people opposed to him, are determined.

In addition the Republican party must be very careful with Trump, because if he doesn't do well. American voters will vote them out. 2028 election is not far oo. By then there's no Trump, Biden etc
Rather new faces so anything can happen. So Trump better take it easy
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by tnerro1(m): 9:24pm On Jan 21, 2025
I believe this is a ploy by Trump to distract them with this matter while he carries out other dangerous activities 😁😁
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by DuttyChuks: 9:25pm On Jan 21, 2025
One week, one trouble! Trump go like una well well!
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by Oghene86: 9:26pm On Jan 21, 2025
powerkey:
Idiots who can't go to court in their home countries will have the temerity to sue a president. Deport all of them to their Islamic countries.
That your uncle you asked for house rent for is among those to be depoted when it starts, get small sense that those that live in glass houses don't throw stones. If he is depoted be sure you will find yourself and 4 children on the streets
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by sheriffindy(m): 9:32pm On Jan 21, 2025
Aza matter
Flangelo12:
18 states have joined a suit concerning this matter.
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by 7upnigeria: 9:34pm On Jan 21, 2025
Starzo:
I want to sue tinubu and apc

Any competent lawyer in the house?
You go tey for court. Its like you get money to waste, Tinubu wey no send anybody papa.
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by MT:
optimusprime2:
Oga,

He was not the President then, he is the president now ... two very different cases.

If he cites where his order is for national security, & gets GOP backing (which he will get definitely), the case is as good as closed.

GOP backing on a National security situation with a conservative supreme Court... please do the math.
It’s a constitutional matter. Trump can’t get two third of the Congress approval.

Saying the Supreme Court judges are conservative leaning doesn’t mean they follow the republicans blindly. The constitution can’t just be changed with an executive order
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by danvon(m): 9:45pm On Jan 21, 2025
Welcum:
If not democracy, Hitler de learn work where Trump dey.
Hitler was democratically elected
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by BABANGBALI: 9:46pm On Jan 21, 2025
Dead on arrival
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by Yolat129: 9:49pm On Jan 21, 2025
Iamicekid:
If atleast a parent is not a citizen u can’t have access to the pali or you have permanent residency, aside this, any pikin u born there can’t become citizens, atleast that will clean out all this Muslim jiadist that will go born pikin there take the children away then go teach them all this suicide/terrorist, stuff then send them back to USA to be creating havoc
Some you here are mumu. Especially you Christians. You this action is against Muslims or African, it's to target all US neighboring countries in the south and east.
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by Assetosky(m): 9:49pm On Jan 21, 2025
Iamicekid:
Unna never know anything, u go see sege, he will clean that country of all nonsense wey dey there, but unna mad gan unna go dey bash USA se na nonsense and become there enemy dey demand nonsense laws u can’t demand I’m your various countries but will still want to go there and want u or ur kids to have there citizenship for they same country u claim u hate and bash them all the time clowns
Do you have difficulty in using "their" and "there"?
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by optimusprime2(m): 9:58pm On Jan 21, 2025
MT:
It’s a constitutional matter. Trump can’t get three quarter of the Congress approval.

Saying the Supreme Court judges are conservative leaning doesn’t mean they follow the republicans blindly. The constitution can’t just be changed with an executive order
This is the part where people are missing, he is not ammending the constitution, he is triggering a security clause; The order stated, children born to "Illegal immigrants", so he is directly citing Article 2 section 2 of the US constitution - that calls on his powers as POTUS in national security situations.

As long as the Supreme Court is Right leaning, this case is closed. At least till after 4 years.

Remember the "Muslim ban"? They battled the case to no avail in court till he left power and another president reversed it. Despite the claims it was also "constitutional"
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by Solseal007: 9:58pm On Jan 21, 2025
On the moral and humanitarian side, Trump is wrong. On legal terms he is right
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by RodgersAkpafu: 10:04pm On Jan 21, 2025
Bwanasaraw:
They will loose in court. I trust Republicans, they are not woke

Jihadist breeding like rabbits just to have citizenship should be sent back to their country.

Our Politicians should fix our health system here.

National Hospital was built after Abacha was sanctioned by the West.
They can't lose in court
The 14th Amendment is clear
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by RodgersAkpafu: 10:05pm On Jan 21, 2025
Angelfrost:
What exactly is the fuss?!!

This already happens in certain other nations like the UK.

You can't keep abusing a system by leaving your 3rd world nation solely to birth kids in order that they earn dual citizenship.

They should at least live and school there to qualify for citizenship.

Why claim citizenship of a nation you have contributed absolutely nothing to?!!


Abeg... Y'all should leave Trump to get to work.

Maybe we all should focus on our nations, and give America a rest!


This Trump mania is becoming irritating.
Thats because the action is ILLEGAL

having a national discourse towards a constitutional amendment is more like it
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by Westman001: 10:08pm On Jan 21, 2025
We can call those babies American bastard citizens.

You cannot enter a county illegally then expect the kid you born to automatically become a citizen. That's ojoro now.

You enter my house now got pregnant and gave birth without me paying your bride price, no introduction or engagement. Nothing official. And you think your kid is not a bastard. You want the kid to inherit the throne. No now, o wrong.

You can't force me to claim a child that's not my own
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by Angelfrost(m): 10:10pm On Jan 21, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
Thats because the action is ILLEGAL

having a national discourse towards a constitutional amendment is more like it
Okay...! Makes sense.
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by zmanto(m): 10:11pm On Jan 21, 2025
A day in office has already made trump the best president in the world
Re: Immigration Groups Sue Trump Over Order To End US Birthright Citizenship by Thunderfayamods: 10:15pm On Jan 21, 2025
optimusprime2:
I am just letting you know the process of lawsuits against executive orders, as long as it passes through the supreme Court (which is now majorly, conservative) the matter is as good as closed.


That democrat era is on break for now.
Mr man Birth right citizenship is enshrined in the constitution, you cannot use executive order to end what is in the constitution.
Democrats or not Republican or not that is a fact!
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