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Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by ceejay80s(m): 2:50am On Jan 22, 2025
LEGALSER:
You dey use assassination dey play and person dey correct you you still dey talk careless. Continue.
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Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by blueAgent(m): 4:26pm On Jan 22, 2025
Mynd44:
Everybody apart from the Native Americans are immigrants in the US.
Was there a US or America b4 the Europeans came?
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by blueAgent(m): 4:27pm On Jan 22, 2025
free2ryhme:
Trump is acting on a once-fringe belief that U.S.-born children of undocumented immigrants have no right to U.S. citizenship and are part of a conspiracy (rooted in racism) to replace white Americans.
If not 4 the whites, would there be a US or a developed country like US in the first place?
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by blueAgent(m): 4:36pm On Jan 22, 2025
Lithiumite:
The contradiction in your post is as clear as day and depicts you as an unintelligent person.....doubt you even understand the issues.....on one hand you like the one that gave 5 executive orders right in his inauguration speech because he is American and white but you
hate the one who made 2 policy statements that he felt would help solve the decline in our economy just because he is Nigerian and black like you.
Typical Zombie.
Comparing Apples with grains.

Tinubu is incomparable to Trump.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by blueAgent(m):
ObosiLandlord:
What did Tinubu do that's against Nigeria law?
Awarding coastal road without due process, is not illegal and against the Nigerian consistution?

Zombie
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by ObosiLandlord(m): 5:45pm On Jan 22, 2025
blueAgent:
Awarding coastal road without due process, not illegal and against the Nigerian consistution?

Zombie
Provide evidence he didn't follow due process. There's no need for the insult
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by Lithiumite: 7:06pm On Jan 22, 2025
blueAgent:
Typical Zombie.
Comparing Apples with grains.

Tinubu is incomparable to Trump.
Trump that has already brought unfathomable confusion to the whole world just within 48hrs of being POTUS......yes tinubu isn't an anarchist and isn't in anyway exhibit petulance like trump.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by Aaronsrod: 7:10pm On Jan 22, 2025
blueAgent:
Was there a US or America b4 the Europeans came?
Of course not.

Only primitive Red Indians and bushmen.

Not one Christian in that land.

Trump must deport them with the Mexicans and LGBT.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by wirinet(m): 11:54pm On Jan 22, 2025
The legal fireworks has began

Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by Nobody: 12:27am On Jan 23, 2025
NobleStag007:
Source of your scandalous statement..
NobleStag007:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenationonlineng.net/no-freedom-for-underwear-bomber-abdulmuttalab/amp/?espv=1

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/10/trial-of-abdulmutalab-failed-bomber-begins/amp/
God cannot be deceived.
Source.. did the father said that or the media..was it proven. How? When? Did they get confession out of him?
Mr NobleStag007, God cannot be mocked. Galatians 6 vs 7-8.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by TWoods(m): 6:21am On Jan 23, 2025
wirinet:
The 14th ammendments never talked about aliens or parents, it expressly mentioned birth, and naturalisation. The 14th ammendment only recognised citizenship through birth or naturalisation. Naturalisation is under the control of the executive, birth is not.
Spend more time reading the Senate records when the bill was being passed. It does mention foreigners. In fact, those records are where we learn that children of diplomats do not obtain birthright citizenship. This case will turn on the original intent of the writers of the amendment, not the amendment itself.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by babyboy4every1: 6:40am On Jan 23, 2025
RealLordZeus:
No more running to US to give birth

Tor
Na this law i love most.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by babyboy4every1: 6:41am On Jan 23, 2025
BigDawsNet:
O ti lo

Your kids can still get a US citizens if the dad or mum is a US citizens during the child birth
Yes, they will apply for it and the condition must be met
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by NobleStag007: 7:19am On Jan 23, 2025
Padipadi:
Mr NobleStag007, God cannot be mocked. Galatians 6 vs 7-8.
Seen.. he's purely a terrorist. We call them khawarij in islam
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by wirinet(m): 8:23am On Jan 23, 2025
TWoods:
Spend more time reading the Senate records when the bill was being passed. It does mention foreigners. In fact, those records are where we learn that children of diplomats do not obtain birthright citizenship. This case will turn on the original intent of the writers of the amendment, not the amendment itself.
Why not post exerpts from the Senate records so we can understand what you are talking about.

Did the bill (or the eventual amendment itself) differentiate between children after foreigners and children of citizens when granting birthright citizenship?
Children of Diplomats born outside of the US was not mentioned in the 14th amendment, those were later additions or interpretations.

Always referring to the original intent of the constitution writers instead of the texts and substance of the constitution itself is disingenuous. How can you determine the intent of 13 men that died over two and a half centuries ago, unless expressly written down. This means the constitution is very fluid and therefore useless.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by blueAgent(m): 2:02pm On Jan 23, 2025
luminouz:
Rubbish....

The native Americans are the real owners of America. Read well ..it's just like saying because you came to Ekiti and saw no people there, then you are the owners of the southwest when Ondo town has been settled before you came
Did the native Americans bring land to Earth while coming to this world?
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by blueAgent(m): 2:06pm On Jan 23, 2025
ObosiLandlord:
Provide evidence he didn't follow due process. There's no need for the insult
The onus is on you to prove he did fellow due process.

Because its well known and documented that he did not.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by blueAgent(m): 2:07pm On Jan 23, 2025
Lithiumite:
Trump that has already brought unfathomable confusion to the whole world just within 48hrs of being POTUS......yes tinubu isn't an anarchist and isn't in anyway exhibit petulance like trump.
Keep fooling yourself.

Defending failure online , while crying for hunger and starvation inside your closet cool
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by Lithiumite: 2:53pm On Jan 23, 2025
blueAgent:
Keep fooling yourself.

Defending failure online , while crying for hunger and starvation inside your closet cool
Why is it only haters like yourself that keeps screaming hunger? Your gaslighting has failed since your failed protest last year.....this is 25,get a life.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by blueAgent(m): 3:01pm On Jan 23, 2025
Aaronsrod:
Of course not.

Only primitive Red Indians and bushmen.

Not one Christian in that land.

Trump must deport them with the Mexicans and LGBT.
True.
Every clow wants to travel and become US citizens, but they forgot that without the Whites the US would not have existed or become as great as they are.
Left with blacks and native Americans, the present geographical area called US would have been a deserted wilderness cool
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by blueAgent(m): 3:03pm On Jan 23, 2025
Lithiumite:
Why is it only haters like yourself that keeps screaming hunger? Your gaslighting has failed since your failed protest last year.....this is 25,get a life.
Bla bla bla.
Incoherent crap.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by blueAgent(m): 3:11pm On Jan 23, 2025
wirinet:
US constitution is quite different from UK constitution. UK is a constitutional monarchy while US touts itself as a democracy built on the shoulders of immigrants and slaves. Birthright citizenship was not enshrined in UK's unwritten conconstitution, it was a major pillar of US constitution. Most US citizens from inception except a few that became citizens by naturalisation, obtained their citizenship through Birthright.
I hope you blacks and poor whites where not counted as citizens in US during the early days of independence?
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by blueAgent(m): 3:12pm On Jan 23, 2025
FIRDAUS3:
Abi naa. angry

Enough of' I was born in the United States of America
I tell u.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by Lithiumite: 3:49pm On Jan 23, 2025
blueAgent:
Bla bla bla.
Incoherent crap.
It's no ones fault you are hungry!!
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by wirinet(m): 4:16pm On Jan 23, 2025
blueAgent:
I hope you blacks and poor whites where not counted as citizens in US during the early days of independence?
I honestly don't understand what you are getting at. It was the 14th amendment that granted children of slaves citizenship rights and therefore the right vote.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by luminouz(m): 6:54pm On Jan 23, 2025
blueAgent:
Did the native Americans bring land to Earth while coming to this world?
K
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by luminouz(m): 6:54pm On Jan 23, 2025
Lithiumite:
It's no ones fault you are hungry!!
You have time to be engaging him..just dash him K for potassium and he will be aiit.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by TWoods(m): 7:40am On Jan 24, 2025
wirinet:
Why not post exerpts from the Senate records so we can understand what you are talking about.

Did the bill (or the eventual amendment itself) differentiate between children after foreigners and children of citizens when granting birthright citizenship?
Children of Diplomats born outside of the US was not mentioned in the 14th amendment, those were later additions or interpretations.

Always referring to the original intent of the constitution writers instead of the texts and substance of the constitution itself is disingenuous. How can you determine the intent of 13 men that died over two and a half centuries ago, unless expressly written down. This means the constitution is very fluid and therefore useless.
Not true. Courts do this all the time. Antonin Scalia was a key proponent of this.

I have also seen it in business cases where lawyers rely on congressional records to show intent, where the law is rather vague.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by Moroccoguy: 9:33pm On Mar 07, 2025
prinsam30:
CONTINUE TILL U DIE OF HUNGER
We already know your type
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