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Following the resurrection of Jesus from the dead and ultimately his Ascension into heaven, did he ascend into Heaven in Flesh, Spirit or both forms combined?

Godson1379:
Following the resurrection of Jesus from the dead and ultimately his Ascension into heaven, did he ascend into Heaven in Flesh, Spirit or both forms combined?

According to the Gospels, Jesus Christ rose from the dead, flesh and blood, and eventually ascended to Heaven while His followers watched, the same.

Kobojunkie:
According to the Gospels, Jesus Christ rose from the dead, flesh and blood, and eventually ascended to Heaven while His followers watched, the same.

So where is the Holy Spirit in all of this?

Godson1379:
So where is the Holy Spirit in all of this?

Where he has always been since Jesus Christ was born, a part of Him.

It was a materialized body to prove that he's now alive but the old perfect human body no longer belongs to him that's what he paid to redeem mankind {Hebrews 9:12} so he was raised as a spirit being that is what nobody can take from him! John 10:17-18

Godson1379:
Following the resurrection of Jesus from the dead and ultimately his Ascension into heaven, did he ascend into Heaven in Flesh, Spirit or both forms combined?

He in flesh, who is made the life giving Spirit, is at the right hand of God

Kobojunkie:
According to the Gospels, Jesus Christ rose from the dead, flesh and blood, and eventually ascended to Heaven while His followers watched, the same.

blood that he shed 😮‍💨

gohf:
➜blood that he shed 😮‍💨

So, a person who has shed his blood CANNOT obtain more blood? Was His bone marrow damaged —rendered impotent— by way of his death that they could no longer produce more blood cells for his resurrection or something? Also, did you confirm after His resurrection that He had absolutely no blood in Him at the time? 🙄🙄🙄

Godson1379:
Following the resurrection of Jesus from the dead and ultimately his Ascension into heaven, did he ascend into Heaven in Flesh, Spirit or both forms combined?

Did you see any where where He dropped His Flesh?

Kobojunkie:
So, a person who has shed his blood CANNOT obtain more blood? Was His bone marrow damaged —rendered impotent— by way of his death that they could no longer produce more blood cells for his resurrection or something? Also, did you confirm after His resurrection that He had absolutely no blood in Him at the time? 🙄🙄🙄

in all your wisdom shouldn't your mind tell you why he shed his blood and also tell us why he would need more blood as well? 😔😔😔 smh

MaxInDHouse:
It was a materialized body to prove that he's now alive but the old perfect human body no longer belongs to him that's what he paid to redeem mankind {Hebrews 9:12} so he was raised as a spirit being that is what nobody can take from him! John 10:17-18

Stop adding to the bible. No be only materialized body

gohf:
➜in all your wisdom shouldn't your mind tell you why he shed his blood and also tell us why he would need more blood as well? 😔😔😔 smh

I am sorry but these questions of yours, rife with religious assumptions, make no sense to me.

Kobojunkie:
Where he has always been since Jesus Christ was born, a part of Him.

Wouldn't mind a scripture to back up this your statement?

Godson1379:
Wouldn't mind a scripture to back up this your statement?

Scripture to back up the recorded account of Jesus Christ being born of the Spirit of God of Israel?

MaxInDHouse:
It was a materialized body to prove that he's now alive but the old perfect human body no longer belongs to him that's what he paid to redeem mankind {Hebrews 9:12} so he was raised as a spirit being that is what nobody can take from him! John 10:17-18

How does he manifest himself to the believer since he ascended in fleshly form according to the scriptures. I didn't see any spirit being ascension anywhere in all the scriptures, if you doubt can you quote one?

Remember he said when two or three are gathered in my name, there I am with them. This simply means omnipresence. So in what form does he achieve this possibility?

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you see any where where He dropped His Flesh?

So how does he manifest himself to all the believers, and in what form ?

Kobojunkie:
Scripture to back up the recorded account of Jesus Christ being born of the Spirit of God?

Spirit is spirit and flesh is flesh, no confusion betwixt the two. My question is simple. In what form did Jesus ascend to the heavens in order to manifest his Glorious powers in all the believers?

Godson1379:
➜Spirit is spirit and flesh is flesh, no confusion betwixt the too. My argument is simple. In what form did Jesus ascend to the heavens in order to manifest his Glorious powers in all the believers?

The book tells you that Jesus Christ ascended to the Heaven of His Father, God of Israel, in the same form that He lived on this earth which included flesh and blood. So?

Kobojunkie:
I am sorry but these questions of yours, rife with religious assumptions, make no sense to me.

if it made real sense to you wouldn't that be shocking?

Kobojunkie:
The book tells you that Jesus Christ ascended to the Heaven of His Father, God of Israel, in the same form that He lived on this earth which included flesh and blood. So?

So flesh and blood can be in many places at the same time in heaven and on earth? If I get you correctly?

gohf:
➜if it made real sense to you wouldn't that be shocking?

What is more shocking is that you expected that tripe to make sense outside of your mind.

Godson1379:
➜So flesh and blood can be in many places at the same time in heaven and on earth? If I get you correctly?

I don't make the rules here regarding what can or cannot be according to Jesus Christ of Israel. Jesus Christ of Israel made clear that He is the beginning and end as far as His Kingdom and what applies.

Kobojunkie:
I don't make the rules here regarding what can or cannot be according to Jesus Christ of Israel. Jesus Christ of Israel made clear that He is the beginning and end as far as His Kingdom and what applies.

Before Jesus came to Earth in bodily form, in what form did he live with the Father ?

gohf:
He in flesh, who is made the life giving Spirit, is at the right hand of God

Thanks soo much Sir, this is something very close to what I've been asking. A very big Kudos. Mind sharing any scriptures to back this your view up ?

Godson1379:
➜Before Jesus came to Earth in bodily form, in what form did he live with the Father ?

Why does it matter what form He lived in before He came down to earth?

Kobojunkie:
Why does it matter what form He lived in before He came down to earth?

It matters because it can give an idea on how he manifest himself to the believer, post, resurrection, ascension and when he finally returns to the earth for the second time to Judge the world and it's inhabitants and reign as an eternal King for all of eternity.

Godson1379:
➜ It matters because it can give an idea on how he manifest himself to the believer, post, resurrection, ascension
➜and when he finally returns to the earth for the second time to Judge the world and it's inhabitants and reign as an eternal King for all of eternity.

That makes no sense! Why would or should it be based on his bodily form before his coming to earth and not on his form after He came to earth and then announced His Kingdom to His followers?

2. You don't like what is written in Scripture, do you? According to Jesus Christ, His return would be in the same way that He went up. Meaning that it has nothing to do with your ideas of his previous form before He came to earth — was born. 😏

Kobojunkie:
That makes no sense! Why would or should it be based on his bodily form before his coming to earth and not on his form after He came to earth and then announced His Kingdom to His followers?

2. You don't like what is written in Scripture, do you? According to Jesus Christ, His return would be in the same way that He went up. Meaning that it has nothing to do with your ideas of his previous form before He came to earth — was born. 😏

I mean this is common sense, to understand his eternal form , you have to understand clearly both the bodily and spiritual forms and how he intertwines the two in all it's Glorious perfection still retaining absolute divinity and coherence. Remember, God is never a God of confusion and everything is made perfect by his eternal will and Glory

In summary, everything remains a mystery and the scriptures only scratched the surface.

The mystery of God will surely take an eternity to unravel it all and O boy eternity is such a long time

Godson1379:
➜I mean this is common sense, to understand his eternal form , you have to understand clearly both the bodily and spiritual forms and how he intertwines the two in all it's glorious perfection still retaining absolute divinity and coherence. Remember, God is never a God of confusion and everything is made perfect by his eternal will and glory
➜In summary everything remains a mystery and the scriptures only scratched the surface.
➜The mystery of God will surely take an eternity to unravel it all and O boy eternity is such a long time

1. Nonsense! Why? Because as Jesus Christ of Israel Himself said, the same way He was seen going up into the Heaven of His Father is the same way He would return to His Followers. 🙄🙄

2. Rubbish! There is no mystery here to be seen as Jesus Christ of Israel clearly stated how he would return to His people — the same way they saw him go. 🙄🙄

3. Stop this religious rambling about mysteries when a moment ago you were insisting that his form before being born mattered to the grand scheme of things even after Jesus Christ of Israel Himself made known that it matters little to nothing whatever ideas one had of His former form as it was the form in which He ascended that He would return in. 🙄🙄

Kobojunkie:
1. Nonsense! Why? Because as Jesus Christ of Israel Himself said, the same way He was seen going up into the Heaven of His Father is the same way He would return to His Followers. 🙄🙄

2. Rubbish! There is no mystery here to be seen as Jesus Christ of Israel clearly stated how he would return to His people — the same way they saw him go. 🙄🙄

3. Stop this religious rambling about mysteries when a moment ago you were insisting that his form before being born mattered to the grand scheme of things even after Jesus Christ of Israel Himself made known that it matters little to nothing whatever ideas one had of His former form as it was the form in which He ascended that He would return in. 🙄🙄

Okay, Enough with the Drama let me give you a brief exposition as the Spirit leads


Remember in the Scriptures, the word "Translated" was used.

Let me refresh your memory incase you missed it at Bible school classes


Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.


What does "translation" mean in this context?

It simply means mortality putting on immortality,

Fleshly putting on the immaterial, imperishable, corruptless form of the father and Son (the Word of God) as it was intended for Man before Creation and the very time itself began.

Now all of creation has been "Groaning" for the manifestation of the "Sons" of God. Who are this Sons? Well that's a lecture for another day.

In summary. During the ascension of Jesus after his Death and resurrection, he was translated to his eternal Form with all the powers of the earthly and spiritual realms handed to the rightful owner (Christ) by the Father with authority over all the earthly and spiritual forms of existences and beings as all things were created thru him and for him all for his pleasures.

Are you still confused?

Godson1379:
So how does he manifest himself to all the believers, and in what form ?

This now is a different question

Godson1379:
➜Okay, Enough with the Drama let me give you a brief exposition as the Spirit leads
Remember in the Scriptures, the word "Translated" was used.
Let me refresh your memory incase you missed it at Bible school classes
Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
What does "translation" mean this context?
It simply means mortality putting on immortality,
Fleshly putting on the immaterial, imperishable, corruptless form of the father and Son (the Word of God) as it was intended for Man before Creation and the very time itself began.
➜Now all of creation has been "Groaning" for the manifestation of the "Sons" of God. Who are this Sons? Well that's a lecture for another day.
In summary. During the ascension of Jesus after his Death and resurrection, he was translated to his eternal Form with all the powers of the earthly and spiritual realms handed to the rightful owner (Christ) by the Father with authority over all the earthly and spiritual forms of existences and beings as all things were created thru him and for him all for his pleasures.Are you still confused?

I am afraid you have completely lost me here. Mind you, I don't subscribe to any religious narratives that are, for the most part, attempts at overwriting the explicit content of the Israelite Scripture they claim to follow.

2. Again, Jesus Christ of Isreal is recorded to have been born of a woman and the Spirit of God to fulfill the promise of God to David via the Covenant of Salt which He made to the family of Jacob. The same Jesus Christ of Israel, when He rose from the grave, after His death, confirmed that His flesh and blood were intact even after the ordeal. The same Jesus Christ of Israel then ascended up into His Father's Heaven with His flesh and blood intact with a message that the same way He went on, He would return to them. I guess the simple question I should ask you at this point is why you completely refuse to accept the words of Jesus Christ of Israel in this case. The Kingdom belongs to Him and He is the rule of Law in it, and according to Him, He will return the same way He left. So, why do you disagree with Him on this? On what grounds?