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FreedomfromtheT:
It is no longer news that the duo of gospel singer Nathaniel Bassey and the revered General Superintendent the Deeper Life Bible Church, pastor William Kumuyi were invited to grace president Donald Trump's second inauguration.
As a Christian or a Nigerian, are you proud of them?
If you are not, you are entitled to your opinion.
However,in my candid opinion, it shows the kind of 'Christian' you are if you claim to be one.

FreedomfromtheT:
It is no longer news that the duo of gospel singer Nathaniel Bassey and the revered General Superintendent the Deeper Life Bible Church, pastor William Kumuyi were invited to grace president Donald Trump's second inauguration.
As a Christian or a Nigerian, are you proud of them?
If you are not, you are entitled to your opinion.
However,in my candid opinion, it shows the kind of 'Christian' you are if you claim to be one.

soojar:
Looks like you are the one that doesn't know Pastor W. F. Kumuyi

Those that have been following him since his early days know many of his hard stances then that have now been relaxed (maybe as a result of understanding better like Paul the Apostle)

Back in the days, TV was "Devil's box" but Pastor Kumuyi now broadcast on TV and internet

Back then you as a man dare not pick a lady on your Bike even if you stay in the same house and you are going to fellowship together. She would have to leg it to Church if necessary while you ride alone on your 'Okada', That too has been relaxed now if I'm not mistaken

It used to be worldly for your trousers to be too long or you use a belt with golden (even though na painted metal) buckle. Those rules and laws are no more in place and some others I can't remember now

Pastor Kumuyi is a preacher of the word of God with emphasis on holiness that has not changed but as the guy pointed out, Pastor also understands better now that most of those rules of then are just doctrines of men and not necessarily laws of God.



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FreedomfromtheT:
That means you don't actually know pastor William F Kumuyi.
This invitation is an open door for pastor Kumuyi to extend his GCK (Global Crusade with Kumuyi) a global evangelistic outreach which he started about three years ago to the United States and beyond.
This is also in line with the the Great Commission from our Master Jesus Christ "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature".
So every Christian should be proud of pastor William Folorunso Kumuyi.
If you are not, that is your own cup of tea.
Thank you.

galserv:
I am a born again christian and I am proud of them

AfonjaConehead:
Pigsamaka

ruffhandu:
You missed the point that young man was trying to make.

Softmirror:
Was he ever invited when his congregation were still destroying their electronics, always looking sober? Take it or leave it. Kumuyi of today is not the same as Kumuyi of yesterday.

FreedomfromtheT:
What point was he trying to make?

soojar:
Looks like you are the one that doesn't know Pastor W. F. Kumuyi

Those that have been following him since his early days know many of his hard stances then that have now been relaxed (maybe as a result of understanding better like Paul the Apostle)

Back in the days, TV was "Devil's box" but Pastor Kumuyi now broadcast on TV and internet

Back then you as a man dare not pick a lady on your Bike even if you stay in the same house and you are going to fellowship together. She would have to leg it to Church if necessary while you ride alone on your 'Okada', That too has been relaxed now if I'm not mistaken

It used to be worldly for your trousers to be too long or you use a belt with golden (even though na painted metal) buckle. Those rules and laws are no more in place and some others I can't remember now

Pastor Kumuyi is a preacher of the word of God with emphasis on holiness that has not changed but as the guy pointed out, Pastor also understands better now that most of those rules of then are just doctrines of men and not necessarily laws of God.



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soojar:
Looks like you are the one that doesn't know Pastor W. F. Kumuyi

Those that have been following him since his early days know many of his hard stances then that have now been relaxed (maybe as a result of understanding better like Paul the Apostle)

Back in the days, TV was "Devil's box" but Pastor Kumuyi now broadcast on TV and internet

Back then you as a man dare not pick a lady on your Bike even if you stay in the same house and you are going to fellowship together. She would have to leg it to Church if necessary while you ride alone on your 'Okada', That too has been relaxed now if I'm not mistaken

It used to be worldly for your trousers to be too long or you use a belt with golden (even though na painted metal) buckle. Those rules and laws are no more in place and some others I can't remember now

Pastor Kumuyi is a preacher of the word of God with emphasis on holiness that has not changed but as the guy pointed out, Pastor also understands better now that most of those rules of then are just doctrines of men and not necessarily laws of God.



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FreedomfromtheT:
Did Pastor Kumuyi make those 'rules'you enumerated?
Please can you quote any spoken or written meesage where he made any of such?
Thank you.

soojar:
There were no televised messages then. But you can ask any old member of DLC who had listened to Pastor Kumuyi back then. or any of the cassettes later recorded in the 80s.

To answer your question, I can't get anyone to quote now. But I don't think you are trying to say Pastor Kumuyi never said the use of Jewelry is a sin or that watching TV is worldly.


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soojar:
There were no televised messages then. But you can ask any old member of DLC who had listened to Pastor Kumuyi back then. or any of the cassettes later recorded in the 80s.

To answer your question, I can't get anyone to quote now. But I don't think you are trying to say Pastor Kumuyi never said the use of Jewelry is a sin or that watching TV is worldly.


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OfficialP:
I see nothing special. After all, by redemption their office is higher than the office of a president.

Nothing special.

Assuming it was an a black president that invited them, am sure you won't open this thread.

Nothing special, okay

Looking4Trouble:
So, this is now a national achievement

Softmirror:
You sound like someone who wouldn't be happy if the invitation was for another pastor other than Kumuyi. Why?

FreedomfromtheT:
My friend, some of pastor Kumuyi's past messages are on tape and can be downloaded on your iphone if you have any.
I requested for proof that pastor Kumuyi made the 'rules' you listed earlier. You have none only to simply jump to another.
May be you should try listening to him yourself instead of relying on hearsay.

Looking4Trouble:
So, this is now a national achievement

soojar:
Sorry sir.
Are you saying Pastor Kumuyi supports the use of Jewellery including golden buckle belt for men?

Are you saying Pastor Kumuyi has never preached that watching TV is worldly which necessitated members throwing away their TVs and he didn't stop them from doing so?

Your assumption that I don't have iPhone might be right. Thank God iPhone is no more Devil's box now unlike before. I won't mind you buying 16 for me and putting all those messages where pastor Kumuyi has always supported jewellery and told his members not to throw away their TVs.

I don't want to rely on hearsay as you admonished. I'm expecting the messages on the iPhone 16



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FreedomfromtheT:
I personally know members of Deeper Life Bible Church who have been wearing jewelries consistently to church.
Every genuine minister of the gospel will always preach about the danger of watching evils in the tv, phones, social media and books.
Throwing away of tv set is extreme. You need to show evidence that pastor Kumuyi actually told members to throw away their tv sets.
Thank you.
I am proud of Nathaniel Bassey and pastor William Kumuyi.

MaxInDHouse:
The truth is he was a former member of Jehovah's Witnesses Organization so it's whatever Jehovah's Witnesses teaches he wants to establish except the fact that JWs don't have a soul owner of the organization.
Kumuyi was following all the teachings of JWs his gullible followers never knew this but later when he discovered that he's not gaining support unlike his friends who accommodates so many things he began making changes!
It was the publication of Watchtower (JWs) Kumuyi read that he found about the negative effects of television in our world today but instead of him to used discernment he condemned television when Jehovah's Witnesses only cautioned their members regarding the information and bad influence of TV.
Only Jehovah's Witnesses don't participate in politics nor military service Kumuyi tried to imitate that too that's why he wasn't going close to politicians back then but how can he manage the case of members who are military personnels by profession?
Among JWs they will never baptize you if you're into military services so Kumuyi shied away from that.
Back then he made his gullible followers go on preaching in buses and bus stops but since he's not taking the lead how can such thing last?
So you're right Sir Kumuyi has made a U-turn!

MaxInDHouse:
The truth is he was a former member of Jehovah's Witnesses Organization so it's whatever Jehovah's Witnesses teaches he wants to establish except the fact that JWs don't have a soul owner of the organization.
Kumuyi was following all the teachings of JWs his gullible followers never knew this but later when he discovered that he's not gaining support unlike his friends who accommodates so many things he began making changes!
It was the publication of Watchtower (JWs) Kumuyi read that he found about the negative effects of television in our world today but instead of him to used discernment he condemned television when Jehovah's Witnesses only cautioned their members regarding the information and bad influence of TV.
Only Jehovah's Witnesses don't participate in politics nor military service Kumuyi tried to imitate that too that's why he wasn't going close to politicians back then but how can he manage the case of members who are military personnels by profession?
Among JWs they will never baptize you if you're into military services so Kumuyi shied away from that.
Back then he made his gullible followers go on preaching in buses and bus stops but since he's not taking the lead how can such thing last?
So you're right Sir Kumuyi has made a U-turn!

galserv:
I am a born again christian and I am proud of them

Kobojunkie:
You are nothing but a remote-controlled zombie, your will programmed and controlled by the whims of your scammers-in-the-lords. What Kumuyi did was merely throw his hat in with Trump ensuring that all of his zombie followers in the U.S. will vote according to the whims of the Republican party —no matter how stewpid their ideas— all so Kumuyi can pretend the will of his god that did not do anything but pillage Nigeria is working through him in America. This is all politics for your GO who are businessmen no different from Elon Musk, but you are too blind to see it.

FreedomfromtheT:
➜I don't know what you are talking about. Pastor Kumuyi is not a politician but a man hungry to preach the saving gospel to sinners in every land in accordance with the Great Commission. Pastor Kumuyi was invited by the soon to be inaugurated president who at this time happens to be Donald Trump who coincidentally is also unapologetically leaning towards biblical principles as president of the United States (though he may have character personal flaws).
➜The need for the raw gospel to be preached in the US of A is long overdue due to the leftist and liberal influenced woke permissiveness negatively affecting the people and also the seeming lukewarmness of the western Church.
It is an opportunity to reach out to people in both divides of the divide irrespective of party idealogy since Christ died for all.
May pastor Kumuyi succeed in Jesus' name, Amen.

Kobojunkie:
You are nothing but a remote-controlled zombie, your will programmed and controlled by the whims of your scammers-in-the-lords. What Kumuyi did was merely throw his hat in with Trump ensuring that all of his zombie followers in the U.S. will vote according to the whims of the Republican party —no matter how stewpid their ideas— all so Kumuyi can pretend the will of his god that did not do anything but pillage Nigeria is working through him in America. This is all politics for your GO who are businessmen no different from Elon Musk, but you are too blind to see it.

galserv:
➜Vintage son of perdition! Romans 1:22 22 Professing themselves to be wise(Kobojunkie and co), they became fools,

Kobojunkie:
🙄🙄🙄 Like I said, remote-controlled zombies whose whim and whims are all programmed according to the promulgation of your scammers-in-the-lords.

2. Need for raw gospel in the same America that brought this same gospel to places like Nigeria during the time of your ancestors? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

The way you all make these claims without even flinching is what gets me every single time. A person from a backward nation whose religion has shown he contributes nothing but destruction to his own people convinces himself that he brings this same useless religion to those who have shown it of little or no worth to them.

Kobojunkie:
Did you know that the fools referenced in that passage you quoted are those who followed religious leaders— the Pharisees and Sadducees who were equally political in their reasoning — and were deceived by them? Kind of like you! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣