₦airaland Forum

Natbrowny:
A white man was born in Nigeria, would we consider him Nigerian? That's what someone who has Australian Parents but was born in Nigeria posted on Quora.

Hugo Wallace Weaving AO is a British-Australian actor. He was born in Nigeria, do we consider him Nigerian.

Can he hold public office here in Nigeria if he proves that by birth he is Nigerian.

America dey try sef, dey allow immigrants who was born on their land to hold public office. Naija no go gree

Starzo:
Every land is made up of immigrants. In the early stages of humanity, people migrated to various lands to form clans.

Now because we all came to our present environment through immigration at one point of our existence,does it mean we throw the gates open allow people move in and out without proper vetting?. Does it mean anyone can just claim to be part of us, understanding our culture,values and struggles just cuz they were born on the land?

dometome:
False!

ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
Oga, An American in person of Pelosi said it is constitutional for every child born in America to be American, their constitution stipulates it, but here you are, a citizen of an impoverished African country which tribalism and nepotism has irredeemably wrecked criticizing it.

forgiveness:
America is a migrant country. They have exterminated the real indigenes, the red Indians.

Even Trump is a beneficiary of the American by birth law because his forefathers were immigrants.

Starzo:
I agree with you ,the constitution should be changed.

I am not an American and I think every country should do what is best for them . Me personally,I am not in support of citizenship by birth. For me, one of your parents has to be a citizen for you to qualify as such through birth

There are others ways to obtain citizenship tho

PotatoSalad:
No excuses here bro.
If those people went through the already tough US immigration process, then people who actually have good intentions will benefit from it. You casually let a serial robber and murderer roam freely in your country cos it's land of the free and expect him to take a decent job lmao. You didn't see the video where MS13 gang members were arrested too ba.
See what happened in Germany the other day. Shebi they blamed it on mental health problems.

Starzo:
Every land is made up of immigrants. In the early stages of humanity, people migrated to various lands to form clans.

Now because we all came to our present environment through immigration at one point of our existence,does it mean we throw the gates open allow people move in and out without proper vetting?. Does it mean anyone can just claim to be part of us, understanding our culture,values and struggles just cuz they were born on the land?

Roboto11:
What about guns as enshrined in the constitution?

diamond68:
guns is good for them. Population control lmaoooo

Roboto11:
What does the constitution say?

forgiveness:
Are we discussing illegal immigrants?

LegacyB:
Bros Nigerians matter can be tiring. Really some slaves love their chains.

dometome:
there are two conditions in the first clause or paragraph of the 14th amendment, the first one is that, a person must be born in the US then the second one is that the person must be under the jurisdiction of the US. The paragraph says AND not OR, so the two conditions MUST be met. So if I travel to the US today as a visitor, I will respect their laws, but I am still under the jurisdiction of Nigeria, that is why If I break the law, and I am caught, I am immediately ejected to Nigeria. If the crime is big enough, then after serving jail term, I am deported, so also is my child, because I am not under the jurisdiction of the US my child is not also under the Jurisdiction of that country. The law was made so that the descendants African slaves imported from Africa can become full US citizens after emancipation. When the slaves where freed they had to make them citizen, no one will send them back to Africa, their parents and grandparents where slaves in America, which means they were under the jurisdiction of America, and they were born in America, so they met the two conditions. Later the American Indians (not the red dot Indians) were also affected by this law, because, initially they were not considered Americans, because the Indians where subject and loyal to their various tribes, but when they were incorporated into the US, their ancestral lands became part of the US, then it meant that they were born on US soil and are now under the jurisdiction, not of their various tribes, but of the US government. So the law applies to them, but for me, the law doesn't apply, nor to my kids, my ancestral land was never incorporated into the US, my parents or grandparents were never slaves in America, nor was I ever a slave in America, so the 14th amendment doesn't apply to me and the vast majority of Nigerians.

Roboto11:
A child born in the US is subject to its jurisdiction.

Roboto11:
A child born in the US is subject to its jurisdiction.

LegacyB:
How?

Roboto11:
What does the constitution say?

dometome:
lie of the century.

Roboto11:
You can't claim it's a lie without explaining how.

Natbrowny:
A white man was born in Nigeria, would we consider him Nigerian? That's what someone who has Australian Parents but was born in Nigeria posted on Quora.

Hugo Wallace Weaving AO is a British-Australian actor. He was born in Nigeria, do we consider him Nigerian.

Can he hold public office here in Nigeria if he proves that by birth he is Nigerian.

America dey try sef, dey allow immigrants who was born on their land to hold public office. Naija no go gree

dometome:
I wrote an epistle about it. And I am sure you already read it. If you haven't just scroll up you will se it. Nancy Be lousy is just looking for votes.

Natbrowny:
A white man was born in Nigeria, would we consider him Nigerian? That's what someone who has Australian Parents but was born in Nigeria posted on Quora.

Hugo Wallace Weaving AO is a British-Australian actor. He was born in Nigeria, do we consider him Nigerian.

Can he hold public office here in Nigeria if he proves that by birth he is Nigerian.

America dey try sef, dey allow immigrants who was born on their land to hold public office. Naija no go gree

Starzo:
Every land is made up of immigrants. In the early stages of humanity, people migrated to various lands to form clans.

Now because we all came to our present environment through immigration at one point of our existence,does it mean we throw the gates open allow people move in and out without proper vetting?. Does it mean anyone can just claim to be part of us, understanding our culture,values and struggles just cuz they were born on the land?

Minjim:
https://x.com/SpeakerPelosi/status/1882534294893305906?t=pGxFKEVZap3h-C54BLkljg&s=19[/quote]Constitutionally... Yes!

forgiveness:
America is a migrant country. They have exterminated the real indigenes, the red Indians.

Even Trump is a beneficiary of the American by birth law because his forefathers were immigrants.

forgiveness:
The strength of America today is the diversity and immigrants.

Is that not why people like Trump and Obama could dream and become Presidents?

Are you saying these aforementioned names don't have passion for American despite the fact they are never native Americans?

We have to admit it is indeed an immigrant country and that is what made them what they are today.

Somebody who is a beneficiary of such law can't wake up and change the whole thing in a day. Besides, I don't know if his executive order override the constitution.

We will see about that.