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okven:
Citizen by birth isn't just enough, there should be more cogent qualification attached " else everybody would dream to be an American citizen do their immunities

Birth by citizenship has been there before your father was born, so what nonsense are you saying?

Ojuntana:
What do you think the order is about?
A lot of people are misinformed
The order is for children born to illegal immigrants on US soil not for legal migrants

If that be the case, I have no objection to that.

Common sense here...
Person wey d dash u something says he no fit give again.
So what is the matter here now?

This witch should shut up. Shame no allow her attend inauguration

ChiefOkporghe:
Keyword “illegal" immigrants. Was Trump's grandad an ILLEGAL immigrant?

Also, how can I come to your country with no plans of staying in your country and contribute to its development but only to give birth and disappear back to my country with my child who now has your citizenship but does not live in your country, does not understand your (value) systems and does not contribute to your country's development but uses your citizenship to get access to and protection from lots of things?

They enjoy the dignity that comes with your citizenship and also have access to your country and can even commit crime against your country.

Trump's grandad lived in America, contributed to America and he did it legally.
[b]USA is saying if you want to be a citizen then you should migrate legall[/b]y. And when you're a citizen, you can birth a citizen. Simple.

I have no objection to the bolded.

Ojuntana:
What do you think the order is about?
A lot of people are misinformed
The order is for children born to illegal immigrants on US soil not for legal migrants

Oga Oju ton tana...Trump and his mob don't clearly say this is about children of undocumented immigrants....and they do this deliberately for a reason ....Trump or any of his men have left everyone to speculate because this whole idea of "this is OUR America" has gotten into their heads 🤔

diamond68:
That whole concept is madness. You can easily be taken over. 10 million arabs come and born in America, otilor. It is now Taliban territory

This is absolutely spot on , and they start demanding for SHARIA

Trump is back.

forgiveness:
America is a migrant country. They have exterminated the real indigenes, the red Indians.

Even Trump is a beneficiary of the American by birth law because his forefathers were immigrants.

You are not totally correct.

Mexicans were occupying present day America before the expedition of Amerigo Vespucci. So, Mexicans can lay claim to America before the adventures of Indian slaves at Indiana.

So, take note.

Even someone who half igbo and half yoruba couldn't become lagos state governor , USA is taking a lot of shit but it helps them , the country is built for diversification, that's their own model and its working for them. Immigrant built america.

Natbrowny:
A white man was born in Nigeria, would we consider him Nigerian? That's what someone who has Australian Parents but was born in Nigeria posted on Quora.

Hugo Wallace Weaving AO is a British-Australian actor. He was born in Nigeria, do we consider him Nigerian.

Can he hold public office here in Nigeria if he proves that by birth he is Nigerian.

America dey try sef, dey allow immigrants who was born on their land to hold public office. Naija no go gree

Ekaka14:
Oga Oju ton tana...Trump and his mob don't clearly say this is about children of undocumented immigrants....and they do this deliberately for a reason ....Trump or any of his men have left everyone to speculate because this whole idea of "this is OUR America" has gotten into their heads 🤔

That's because you're not reading but just following rumours and hearsay

forgiveness:
America is a migrant country. They have exterminated the real indigenes, the red Indians.

Even Trump is a beneficiary of the American by birth law because his forefathers were immigrants.

his grandfather not his forefather, Trump is the 3rd generation even

Natbrowny:
A white man was born in Nigeria, would we consider him Nigerian? That's what someone who has Australian Parents but was born in Nigeria posted on Quora.

Hugo Wallace Weaving AO is a British-Australian actor. He was born in Nigeria, do we consider him Nigerian.

Can he hold public office here in Nigeria if he proves that by birth he is Nigerian.

America dey try sef, dey allow immigrants who was born on their land to hold public office. Naija no go gree

Our so called democracy has not reached the mature stage.After looting Ondo state money,Betty and used part of it to carry some works in Imo, she was still told she can't contest for Senate, when she is an imo indigene, because he now marries an Ondo man but when they were benefiting from her, they didn't say is Ondo money. God bless Edo state. Senator Daisy danjuma from Edo south contested an won there and nobody told her to go to Taraba state, her husband own state.

Umuinyioku:
You are not totally correct.

Mexicans were occupying present day America before the expedition of Amerigo Vespucci. So, Mexicans can lay claim to America before the adventures of Indian slaves at Indiana.

So, take note.

Did you not read they exterminated the indigenes? I already know all these.

24kmagik:
Person say e no want you for him country, you de para.

Here in Nigeria, some people don't even want you to go to their state of origin to live. They will ask you to go back to your own state simply because the set up of the country favours one part over the other.

I really wish there was a way to stop this migration bullshit forever in this world. Stay in your country. If you must go to another man's land, let it be for vacation or work, after which you must come back within a time frame.

In that case, every government will double up their efforts to make their country conducive.

Nigerians are a nuisance everywhere in the world and I like how South Africans are handling them

Useless people

Who are useless people? Are you not a Nigerian?

Withdraw your statement. It's uncomplimentary.

galserv:
So funny

The real Americans are those that found the country and named it not the aborigines that didn't even know where they were.

And they are mainly Europeans led by the British

Then we have Latinos who became Americans after their various small countries were annexed by the original 13/14 states that was original America.

Good history!

forgiveness:
America is a migrant country. They have exterminated the real indigenes, the red Indians.

Even Trump is a beneficiary of the American by birth law because his forefathers were immigrants.

Not totally... I mean the red indians.... all thanks to European Americans... A.K.A.. Trump!!

Natbrowny:
A white man was born in Nigeria, would we consider him Nigerian? That's what someone who has Australian Parents but was born in Nigeria posted on Quora.

Hugo Wallace Weaving AO is a British-Australian actor. He was born in Nigeria, do we consider him Nigerian.

Can he hold public office here in Nigeria if he proves that by birth he is Nigerian.

America dey try sef, dey allow immigrants who was born on their land to hold public office. Naija no go gree

The reason is that American it self is an immigrant country, all of them both Trump him self are all migrants and settlers

The original owners of the land are the red Indians called the native Americans who are indigenous to North America

Hence, when a documented migrant parent give birth to a child in America that child automatically becomes an American citizen and can hold any public office in the US

happney65:
There is absolutely nothing wrong with citizenship by birth. Nothing wrong. Most of the people saying they don't want this and that,their forefathers were 'inlegal' migrants too.
Trump's Grandfather came from Germany to the USA. The Europeans came from Europe and took over tribal lands from the American Indians themselves who were the owners of the land.

However maybe little tweaking can be done to it. Maybe telling those who want their children to be citizen should stay for a few number of years,like a year or two before they become full citizens. Like it's done in the UK. not having the child today and leaving tommorow. That is still understable.

But wanting to stop citizenship by birth automatically is unfortunate and it is the talking points of racists

Exactly my taught at your second to last paragraph. He should simply say, you can't just come to America and gave birth and leave and after sometimes you say your child is a citizen. He should put some numbers of years to stay before confirmation.

Nancy Pelosi is right.What Nancy Pelosi and her husband has achieved in life,most of these fools insulting her,their generation yet unborn will never achieve.A lot of idiots in this forum do not understand what the term constitution means.I marvel at the level of idiocy and stupidity of people who to come to this forum to argue unintelligently showing they are morons.The American constitution is clear,any child born in America is an American citizen.Period!!

galserv:
So funny

The real Americans are those that found the country and named it not the aborigines that didn't even know where they were.

And they are mainly Europeans led by the British

Then we have Latinos who became Americans after their various small countries were annexed by the original 13/14 states that was original America.

The ones who founded the country? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

It’s sad we still have people like you who believe in the narration that a White man founded somewhere. Do the natives did not have names, tribes and clans before the Caucasian’s came to massacre them? You said “they didn’t know where they are? Sad….

So Nigerian natives did not know River Niger existed before Mungo park discovered it.

Seek help cos you have been mentally conquered.

Shame unto Nigerian leaders!

Here in Nigeria, you are born in a state outside your own you are termed non indigene. You can't even vie for any political position. But in America, it's a different narrative. You enjoy all the benefits as a citizen.

Shame unto Lagos state government who do not see non indigenes born and raised in the state as bona fide stakeholders in the political affairs.

GRV was denied his Yoruba identity because the mother is not a Yoruba. He could not aspire to be Governor of Lagos state because of the skewed narratives that his mother is of Igbo extraction.

You compare what's panning out in America with Nigeria, there is huge difference. Your place of birth doesn't matter in governorship of the country. Certainly,we can't move forward as a nation where people are denied voting rights because they're non idingenes.

Lagos state needs to learn a lot from American experience.

dometome:
False!

Trump should look for another way around the migrants issue. If ure born in America u are American.

FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHTS .

I identify to be born in America

BUT YOU CAN ASCERTAIN AND DEPORT IMPREGNATED FETUSES AT THE IMMIGRATION. HAVE A LONG SPOON TO EAT WITH THE DEVIL.

jaxxy:
Trump should look for another way around the migrants issue. If ure born in America u are American.

False! Not what the constitution says. Stay in your own country na abeg

Umuinyioku:
Who are useless people? Are you not a Nigerian?

Withdraw your statement. It's uncomplimentary.

All of us useless

Roboto11:
Hahaha.

Something that hasn't been possible for generations.



Trump cannot rescind US Citizenship.

Sorry.

Still wondering with a great wonderment on how you cannot stay in your own country

dometome:
False! Not what the constitution says. Stay in your own country na abeg

That's what the constitution says... There's no law that says ubmust stay in ur own country. The world is a global village.