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Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Feldie: 3:44pm On Jan 25, 2025
Trump is an insane slowpoke. The next president will just undo all the nonsense he's doing
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Feldie: 3:50pm On Jan 25, 2025
24kmagik:
Person say e no want you for him country, you de para.

Here in Nigeria, some people don't even want you to go to their state of origin to live. They will ask you to go back to your own state simply because the set up of the country favours one part over the other.

I really wish there was a way to stop this migration bullshit forever in this world. Stay in your country. If you must go to another man's land, let it be for vacation or work, after which you must come back within a time frame.

In that case, every government will double up their efforts to make their country conducive.

Nigerians are a nuisance everywhere in the world and I like how South Africans are handling them

Useless people
Trump doesn't own America. The tweet above was made by Pelosi, another American. Trump says he doesn't want foreign people in America, Pelosi says if you can come you should come, judge says you should come if you can, Biden says you should come, why the fucck should Trump's words override those other people's?
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Roboto11: 3:50pm On Jan 25, 2025
24kmagik:
I won't stop because that is just the fact.
Stay in your country and stop constituting nuisance in other people's lands.

Nobody wants to come to your country.

Instead of staying in your country to build it and make it attractive, you you run to other people's lands and constitute nuisance all over the place.

Useless country with useless leaders and followers

Na that Trump fit una
It is Nigerians you are after.

grin

Because those ones made it and you didn't?

grin
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by miketayo(m): 3:51pm On Jan 25, 2025
forgiveness:
The strength of America today is the diversity and immigrants.

Is that not why people like Trump and Obama could dream and become Presidents?

Are you saying these aforementioned names don't have passion for American despite the fact they are never native Americans?

We have to admit it is indeed an immigrant country and that is what made them what they are today.

Somebody who is a beneficiary of such law can't wake up and change the whole thing in a day. Besides, I don't know if his executive order override the constitution.

We will see about that.
Do you honestly believe there is strength in diversity? One of many reasons Nigeria is divided today is because of tribes, people with different cultures can't stay together unless 1 relinquishes its culture for another one.
The founding fathers of the USA were all British before other European nations started joining, so a single culture established the country, imagine if they were from different countries, there wouldn't be America today.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by ValarDoharis: 3:55pm On Jan 25, 2025
It is because 95% of Americans are immigrants.

Secondly, that's what their constitution says, they wrote the constitution, not immigrants
Natbrowny:
A white man was born in Nigeria, would we consider him Nigerian? That's what someone who has Australian Parents but was born in Nigeria posted on Quora.

Hugo Wallace Weaving AO is a British-Australian actor. He was born in Nigeria, do we consider him Nigerian.

Can he hold public office here in Nigeria if he proves that by birth he is Nigerian.

America dey try sef, dey allow immigrants who was born on their land to hold public office. Naija no go gree
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by naijaman2225(m): 3:56pm On Jan 25, 2025
quickly:
Maybe 200 years ago . UK cancelled birthright citizenship in 1983.

This law will pass because republicans won the house and the Supreme Court is also conservative.
First of all, whether it is an Executive Order or law it won't 'pass'. It's DOA as it is unconstitutional. Something even Republicans know. Secondly, the British example you cited is very different. It runs an 'unwritten' constitution so it is not uncommon for such laws to pass with relative speed. The only way out is a constitutional amendment and that's only through the American people exercising their will at the ballot box. Any other thing is an exercise in futility.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by naijaman2225(m): 4:00pm On Jan 25, 2025
Roboto11:
2/3rds majority requited.

It would never pass.

Try another trick.
MORE than that required. It requires the will of the American people through the ballot box.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by naijaman2225(m): 4:03pm On Jan 25, 2025
Benwallt:
You can see he was clearly stated as nigerian
HIS children are even qualified for Nigerian citizenship if they are interested.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Starzo: 4:06pm On Jan 25, 2025
ElSudani:
Did native Americans give all the people now calling themselves Americans the right to come to their land in the first place?
If you want to go back that far in history then everyone should go back to where they originally came from.
I wish this happened in Nigeria
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by ElSudani: 4:06pm On Jan 25, 2025
ogbonti:
The constitution was referring to children of slaves and freed slaves not EVERY TOM DICK and HARRY from every part of the world
America is populated by every Tom Dick and Harry from every parts of the world including the grandparents of the current president who came from Germany.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by naijaman2225(m): 4:07pm On Jan 25, 2025
ogbonti:
The constitution was referring to children of slaves and freed slaves not EVERY TOM DICK and HARRY from every part of the world
Where is that stated in the American constitution? Prejudices are not facts so put away yours and face reality.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by shine12: 4:08pm On Jan 25, 2025
Natbrowny:
A white man was born in Nigeria, would we consider him Nigerian? That's what someone who has Australian Parents but was born in Nigeria posted on Quora.

Hugo Wallace Weaving AO is a British-Australian actor. He was born in Nigeria, do we consider him Nigerian.

Can he hold public office here in Nigeria if he proves that by birth he is Nigerian.

America dey try sef, dey allow immigrants who was born on their land to hold public office. Naija no go gree
Difference is the only people indigenous to America are the Red Indians and they are less than 10 million in number. Everybody else came.
Trumps mum came from Sctoland, his Grandad came from Germany and his wife from Eastern Europe and they are all equally American. America is not for white people only.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by shine12: 4:10pm On Jan 25, 2025
Starzo:
I agree with you ,the constitution should be changed.

I am not an American and I think every country should do what is best for them . Me personally,I am not in support of citizenship by birth. For me, one of your parents has to be a citizen for you to qualify as such through birth

There are others ways to obtain citizenship tho
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Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by dometome: 4:11pm On Jan 25, 2025
Roboto11:
grin

So it's only Caucasians that lay claim to US.

grin

I have more claim to USA than Elon Musk.
from the zoo whose license has expired, aka naLiegeria, hahahahahahahahahahaha!
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by dometome: 4:12pm On Jan 25, 2025
naijaman2225:
Stop spreading falsehood. The 14th Amendment to the U.S constitution is very clear about that: anyone one born in the United States is a citizen, whether the parents are citizens themselves, permanent residents or migrants (legal or illegal). The only exception are children of diplomats.
What part of the amendment says that?
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by shine12: 4:12pm On Jan 25, 2025
Starzo:
Every land is made up of immigrants. In the early stages of humanity, people migrated to various lands to form clans.

Now because we all came to our present environment through immigration at one point of our existence,does it mean we throw the gates open allow people move in and out without proper vetting?. Does it mean anyone can just claim to be part of us, understanding our culture,values and struggles just cuz they were born on the land?
Trumps mum came to America in 1930. 1930 is not early years in history.

Whether he likes it or not, people will always migrate to America in large droves even after his demise and some of these people's offspring will make the nation great one day as proud Americans. Their heritage could also be Nigerian, Iranian, Mexican etc. It doesn't matter.
#WhiteEuropeansAreNotTheOnlyRealAmericans
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by shine12: 4:18pm On Jan 25, 2025
galserv:
So funny

The real Americans are those that found the country and named it not the aborigines that didn't even know where they were.

And they are mainly Europeans led by the British

Then we have Latinos who became Americans after their various small countries were annexed by the original 13/14 states that was original America.
What about the decendant of the slaves that built the whole country with their sweat tears and blood. Should they go back to Africa as well.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Mpanyi: 4:18pm On Jan 25, 2025
forgiveness:
America is a migrant country. They have exterminated the real indigenes, the red Indians.

Even Trump is a beneficiary of the American by birth law because his forefathers were immigrants.
America is a migrant country indeed. Your own country is an emigrant one.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by rickleye: 4:24pm On Jan 25, 2025
Natbrowny:
A white man was born in Nigeria, would we consider him Nigerian? That's what someone who has Australian Parents but was born in Nigeria posted on Quora.

Hugo Wallace Weaving AO is a British-Australian actor. He was born in Nigeria, do we consider him Nigerian.

Can he hold public office here in Nigeria if he proves that by birth he is Nigerian.

America dey try sef, dey allow immigrants who was born on their land to hold public office. Naija no go gree
What does the law say ? . If you are born in the country you are Nigerian. If you adopt a kid from America. That child can become Nigerian by descent . If you deny someone who is Nigerian by law because of his colour then what are you ?
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by rickleye: 4:26pm On Jan 25, 2025
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dometome:
What part of the amendment says that?
The privilege of United States citizenship is a priceless and profound gift. The Fourteenth Amendment states: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by forgiveness: 4:28pm On Jan 25, 2025
miketayo:
Do you honestly believe there is strength in diversity? One of many reasons Nigeria is divided today is because of tribes, people with different cultures can't stay together unless 1 relinquishes its culture for another one.
The founding fathers of the USA were all British before other European nations started joining, so a single culture established the country, imagine if they were from different countries, there wouldn't be America today.
They were puritans from different European countries fleeing from church persecution.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Starzo: 4:32pm On Jan 25, 2025
ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
Oga, An American in person of Pelosi said it is constitutional for every child born in America to be American, their constitution stipulates it, but here you are, a citizen of an impoverished African country which tribalism and nepotism has irredeemably wrecked criticizing it.
Logical reasoning is not your strong suit

Do I have to agree with everything in America's constitution?.. America is not in total control of my reasoning faculty nor does it guide my moral compass.

And Yes I'm a citizen of an impoverished country. I'm proud of my heritage and ancestry wether good or bad.

Continue ridiculing yourself in vain attempt to look more like and gain acceptance from others. The joke will forever be on you.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Starzo: 4:33pm On Jan 25, 2025
Roboto11:
Should the constitution be changed for guns too?
See I don't agree with nor am I against everything in America's constitution....do you understand?
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Starzo: 4:34pm On Jan 25, 2025
forgiveness:
The case of allowing even into American is different from the privilege of become a citizen by birth.

Please get that right. I am of the opinion that strict immigration measures be taken against illegal immigrants. That I am never against.
I know it's in the constitution. I'm just saying I don't agree with it.

It's my opinion. My opinion will not change America's constitution
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by CorrectionFLuid: 4:36pm On Jan 25, 2025
forgiveness:
America is a migrant country. They have exterminated the real indigenes, the red Indians.

Even Trump is a beneficiary of the American by birth law because his forefathers were immigrants.
Even if somehow you're right, What about UK? Is that also a migrant country?
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Starzo: 4:38pm On Jan 25, 2025
Samantha125:
But I'm sure you wouldn't be saying the same thing if it was SA...😏😏😏
I would say the same everywhere.... if a Mozambican came to SA, gave birth then immediately left with the child. I'd agree the child does not qualify to be a South Africa.

It's my opinion tho...at the end of the day,the constitution in SA will determine the fate of the child
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Starzo: 4:39pm On Jan 25, 2025
shine12:
Trumps mum came to America in 1930. 1930 is not early years in history.

Whether he likes it or not, people will always migrate to America in large droves even after his demise and some of these people's offspring will make the nation great one day as proud Americans. Their heritage could also be Nigerian, Iranian, Mexican etc. It doesn't matter.
#WhiteEuropeansAreNotTheOnlyRealAmericans
Bro I agree with you.... America should open it's borders so everyone can get in. After all it's a country of immigrants.

I'm sure this makes a lot of sense to you
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Acidosis(m): 4:41pm On Jan 25, 2025
forgiveness:
America is a migrant country. They have exterminated the real indigenes, the red Indians.

Even Trump is a beneficiary of the American by birth law because his forefathers were immigrants.
...Nice. I just hope you will hold the the same view about Lagos/Lagosians and allow Gbadebo contest elections in peace without making reference to his wife's state of origin.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Roboto11: 4:41pm On Jan 25, 2025
Starzo:
See I don't agree with nor am I against everything in America's constitution....do you understand?
You haven't answered the question.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Starzo: 4:43pm On Jan 25, 2025
Roboto11:
You haven't answered the question.
I answered perfectly....i don't have to like, dislike or have an opinion about every single thing in America's constitution
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Roboto11: 4:45pm On Jan 25, 2025
Starzo:
I answered perfectly....i don't have to like, dislike or have an opinion about every single thing in America's constitution
Anyone the Republicans like, you have no issue with it.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Umuinyioku: 4:48pm On Jan 25, 2025
24kmagik:
All of us useless
I am useful. I am not useless!
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