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Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Starzo: 4:49pm On Jan 25, 2025
Roboto11:
Anyone the Republicans like, you have no issue with it.
This character is strictly reserved for liberals
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Samantha125(f): 4:50pm On Jan 25, 2025
Whenever something doesn't favour other Africans in SA, you guys always perceive it as xenophobia... But when it's a Western country, you'll be in full support of it.

Who's the hater now?😏😏😏
Starzo:
I would say the same everywhere.... if a Mozambican came to SA, gave birth then immediately left with the child. I'd agree the child does not qualify to be a South Africa.

It's my opinion tho...at the end of the day,the constitution in SA will determine the fate of the child
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Starzo: 4:52pm On Jan 25, 2025
Samantha125:
Whenever something doesn't favour other Africans in SA, you guys always perceive it as xenophobia... But when it's a Western country, you'll be in full support of it.

Who's the hater now?😏😏😏
Did you read what I just wrote or you came with your pre meditated response?

And SA's case is peculiar considering your history as a nation and a people.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Roboto11: 4:54pm On Jan 25, 2025
Starzo:
This character is strictly reserved for liberals
The term liberal is a good thing.

Have you ever pondered on it?
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Umuinyioku: 4:55pm On Jan 25, 2025
forgiveness:
Did you not read they exterminated the indigenes? I already know all these.
Ok.

I key with you as historian.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Samantha125(f): 4:55pm On Jan 25, 2025
Okay, if you say so...😏😏😏
Starzo:
Did you read what I just wrote or you came with your pre meditated response?

And SA's case is peculiar considering your history as a nation and a people.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by BondRiv: 5:46pm On Jan 25, 2025
Simple.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by naijaman2225(m): 5:53pm On Jan 25, 2025
Roboto11:
The term liberal is a good thing.

Have you ever pondered on it?
They don't even realize that it is liberal democracy that has given to millions who, in an earlier era, would never have been heard from. If Trump and his right wing nutcases have their way that right would end ALL over the world.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by naijaman2225(m): 5:59pm On Jan 25, 2025
dometome:
What part of the amendment says that?
S. 1 to the 14th Amendment.
S.3 , by the way, bars insurrectionists from holding public office.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by ADAMUdaCOWBOY: 6:14pm On Jan 25, 2025
Starzo:
Logical reasoning is not your strong suit

Do I have to agree with everything in America's constitution?.. America is not in total control of my reasoning faculty nor does it guide my moral compass.

And Yes I'm a citizen of an impoverished country. I'm proud of my heritage and ancestry wether good or bad.

Continue ridiculing yourself in vain attempt to look more like and gain acceptance from others. The joke will forever be on you.
Common sense is not one of your possessions. Why should your "agreeing with their constitution" count? Who said you have to agree with their constitution? The ease with which America makes citizens of other countries American citizens is one of the reasons behind it's greatness. Elon Musk a south African has created over a hundred thousand jobs in USA and his companies support over 500,000 jobs while your poverty headquarters of a country will not give a teenage girl with 350 jamb score admission into a university because she belongs to a certain tribe. Continue being proud of your nonsense! Intelligence is clearly not one of your strong points.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by 24kmagik: 6:21pm On Jan 25, 2025
Umuinyioku:
I am useful. I am not useless!
No Nigerian is useful. Deal with it
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Ovamboland(m): 6:33pm On Jan 25, 2025
Natbrowny:
A white man was born in Nigeria, would we consider him Nigerian? That's what someone who has Australian Parents but was born in Nigeria posted on Quora.

Hugo Wallace Weaving AO is a British-Australian actor. He was born in Nigeria, do we consider him Nigerian.

Can he hold public office here in Nigeria if he proves that by birth he is Nigerian.

America dey try sef, dey allow immigrants who was born on their land to hold public office. Naija no go gree
Nigerian law and American law are not the same
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Umuinyioku: 6:36pm On Jan 25, 2025
24kmagik:
No Nigerian is useful. Deal with it
I insist I am useful. Deal with it.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Poepgat: 6:47pm On Jan 25, 2025
Samantha125:
Whenever something doesn't favour other Africans in SA, you guys always perceive it as xenophobia... But when it's a Western country, you'll be in full support of it.

Who's the hater now?😏😏😏
True they want South Africa to welcome undocumented immigrants they call South Africa xenophobic for deporting them.yet they support what trump is doing. In one clip a pregnant zim woman jumped the border just to give birth in South Africa for free , when they asked her for passports to open file she started screaming xenophobia and that she have the rights to free healthcare
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Samantha125(f): 7:10pm On Jan 25, 2025
They hate us for putting our people first, but support westerners for doing the same thing.

As a Limpopian, I once witnessed a similar situation in one public hospital in Limpopo when I accompied a friend of mine, one pregnant Zimbabwean lady was brought in in the evening and she could neither speak Sepedi, English, or any SA languages... She was about to give birth, but just sat there all silent and not even trying to coorperate with the doctors... They didn't know how to communicate with her or what to do... They had to guess that she was in labour upon inspecting her.

I'm very sure that she crossed the border from Zim just to come and give birth in SA... Their entitlement mentality is really sickening.

There was also a recent video of a Zimbabwean lady harassing an SA nurse while taking a video of her to post on social media just so people can label the nurse xenophobic... The nurse stood her ground and didn't even get intimidated one bit.
Poepgat:
True they want South Africa to welcome undocumented immigrants they call South Africa xenophobic for deporting them.yet they support what trump is doing. In one clip a pregnant zim woman jumped the border just to give birth in South Africa for free , when they asked her for passports to open file she started screaming xenophobia and that she have the rights to free healthcare
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by miketayo(m): 7:12pm On Jan 25, 2025
forgiveness:
They were puritans from different European countries fleeing from church persecution.
English men nonetheless
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by forgiveness: 7:27pm On Jan 25, 2025
miketayo:
English men nonetheless
Puritans are not only English men. Read history books about America.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by miketayo(m): 8:05pm On Jan 25, 2025
forgiveness:
Puritans are not only English men. Read history books about America.
So George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and co were not British?
No point continuing this conversation.
Like saying ojukwu was not a Nigerian
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by shine12: 8:15pm On Jan 25, 2025
Starzo:
Bro I agree with you.... America should open it's borders so everyone can get in. After all it's a country of immigrants.

I'm sure this makes a lot of sense to you
You cannot call every single immigrants rapists and murderers. Donald Trump's immigration policy is racist. He wants to separate parents without papers from their us citizen kids.
No one is saying open the border and let everyone come in. However the idea of criminalising people that came to America at a young age and still yet to get their papers is evil. In that aspect, yes it is a country of immigrants.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by goslowgoslow(m): 8:21pm On Jan 25, 2025
Starzo:
Every land is made up of immigrants. In the early stages of humanity, people migrated to various lands to form clans.

Now because we all came to our present environment through immigration at one point of our existence,does it mean we throw the gates open allow people move in and out without proper vetting?. Does it mean anyone can just claim to be part of us, understanding our culture,values and struggles just cuz they were born on the land?
Go and ask people that put it in their constitution. How on earth will you change what is in the constitution with executive order?
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by goslowgoslow(m): 8:24pm On Jan 25, 2025
Starzo:
I agree with you ,the constitution should be changed.

I am not an American and I think every country should do what is best for them . Me personally,I am not in support of citizenship by birth. For me, one of your parents has to be a citizen for you to qualify as such through birth

There are others ways to obtain citizenship tho
Ask Trump to do it thru constitutional changes not executive order! Period!
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by goslowgoslow(m): 8:27pm On Jan 25, 2025
mohbadliveson:
Pelosi is just ranting
Pelosi is not ranting you are the one that is ignorant. The issue is a constitutional thing if Trump wants to change it he should start the process of changing the constitution not by executive order.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Starzo: 8:56pm On Jan 25, 2025
shine12:
You cannot call every single immigrants rapists and murderers. Donald Trump's immigration policy is racist. He wants to separate parents without papers from their us citizen kids.
No one is saying open the border and let everyone come in. However the idea of criminalising people that came to America at a young age and still yet to get their papers is evil. In that aspect, yes it is a country of immigrants.
So anybody with a child should not be deported no matter what?. Do you understand the grevious consequences that comes with such a thing?. If this becomes the mode of operation of the ICE then everybody coming through the border will just hold one child wether it's theirs or not. And you can't deport them cuz they're with a child.

Every tom,dick and harry go carry small pikin follow body enter USA....

And if dna test is required, people will start deliberately start having babies to cross along just to bypass immigration

If what you're suggesting becomes law, it will lead to complete chaos in a very short time.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Starzo: 9:00pm On Jan 25, 2025
ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
Common sense is not one of your possessions. Why should your "agreeing with their constitution" count? Who said you have to agree with their constitution? The ease with which America makes citizens of other countries American citizens is one of the reasons behind it's greatness. Elon Musk a south African has created over a hundred thousand jobs in USA and his companies support over 500,000 jobs while your poverty headquarters of a country will not give a teenage girl with 350 jamb score admission into a university because she belongs to a certain tribe. Continue being proud of your nonsense! Intelligence is clearly not one of your strong points.
Omo you're arrogantly dumb

My opinion won't change the US constitution,so why are you getting worked up over my insignificant opinion?

And if you don't understand what I mean by taking pride in my ancestry then,your problem is deeper than i thought.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Starzo: 9:01pm On Jan 25, 2025
Samantha125:
Okay, if you say so...😏😏😏
Why you dey look me with bad eye?
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by forgiveness: 9:21pm On Jan 25, 2025
miketayo:
So George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and co were not British?
No point continuing this conversation.
Like saying ojukwu was not a Nigerian
Do you lack understanding? I never said English were not among the Puritans. No. All I said was Puritans from other European countries were part of the migration to the new England.


Read before you argue unnecessarily.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by ADAMUdaCOWBOY: 9:28pm On Jan 25, 2025
Starzo:
Omo you're arrogantly dumb

My opinion won't change the US constitution,so why are you getting worked up over my insignificant opinion?

And if you don't understand what I mean by taking pride in my ancestry then,your problem is deeper than i thought.
You are simply obtuse! Since I pointed out the flaws in your nepotistic society and you told me you are proud of it like that, is it not necessary that I encourage you to continue being proud of your nonsense?
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Starzo: 9:32pm On Jan 25, 2025
ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
You are simply obtuse! Since I pointed out the flaws in your nepotistic society and you told me you are proud of it like that, is it not necessary that I encourage you to continue being proud of your nonsense?
No wahala....now that you've successfully rubbished everything about yourself in honour of your white lords' complete, magnanimous and perfect excellence, i hope you get the acceptance you terribly seek.

I pray they start looking at you as 'one of them' from now henceforth. You've proven useful to be a loyal tool.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by miketayo(m): 9:44pm On Jan 25, 2025
forgiveness:
Do you lack understanding? I never said English were not among the Puritans. No. All I said was Puritans from other European countries were part of the migration to the new England.


Read before you argue unnecessarily.
You lack comprehension or you realized you messed up and are now changing your mouth
I was talking about founders. If they weren't from the same country we won't have a country called America today.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by Samantha125(f): 10:00pm On Jan 25, 2025
Nothing...😏😏😏
Starzo:
Why you dey look me with bad eye?
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by forgiveness: 10:06pm On Jan 25, 2025
miketayo:
You lack comprehension or you realized you messed up and are now changing your mouth
I was talking about founders. If they weren't from the same country we won't have a country called America today.
Who are the founders? Washington? Bhuhahahahaha! You are such a novice.

Puritans from Europe migrated to settle in what we call America today. Of course, English men were largely part of it.
Re: If You're Born In America You're American - Nancy Pelosi by miketayo(m): 10:24pm On Jan 25, 2025
forgiveness:
Who are the founders? Washington? Bhuhahahahaha! You are such a novice.

Puritans from Europe migrated to settle in what we call America today. Of course, English men were largely part of it.
who is this one undecided. there are seven men, known as the founders of USA
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