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MaxInDHouse:
That's not what we are discussing!

You said the Holy Spirit is just a "force"

But according to scriptures, the holy Spirit is more than a force but is infact God

Godson1379:
You said the Holy Spirit is just a "force"

But according to scriptures, the holy Spirit is more than a force but is infact God

the Holy spirit is not God.

Are their seven gods Infront of God?

Godson1379:
You said the Holy Spirit is just a "force"
But according to scriptures, the holy Spirit is more than a force but is infact God

Where in the Bible is this mentioned?

Godson1379:
But the Bible clearly states that the Holy Spirit is one of the Truine God head

where does the bible clearly say such?

gohf:
where does the bible clearly say such?

Acts 5:3–4, 1 Corinthians 3:16, and 2 Corinthians 3:17–18.


There are still many more

Godson1379:
Acts 5:3–4, 1 Corinthians 3:16, and 2 Corinthians 3:17–18.


There are still many more

Acts 5:3-4 Peter did not call the Holy Spirit God. Ananias lied to Peter, and Peter said he has lied also to the Holy Spirit and to God. Except you are saying Peter is the Holy Spirit or that he is God?

1Cor.3.16 - Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

Yes we are God's temple and the spirit of God dwells in each of us, God doesn't dwell in us, He abides among us, He is with us and not in us. Here again it doesn't call the spirit of God God, does it?

2Cor.3.17 - Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
2Cor.3.18 - But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Now because God is Spirit doesn't mean He is the one that Jesus sent to us and neither does it mean we worship the Holy Spirit but we worship in the Holy Spirit.

John.4.24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

Neither of these verses call the Holy Spirit God has clearly as you stated neither does it do so indirectly.

But if you still believe that the Holy Spirit is God then answer me this.

Rev.4.5 And from the throne proceeded lightnings, thunderings, and voices. Seven lamps of fire were burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.


How many Gods are before God?

gohf:
Acts 5:3-4 Peter did not call the Holy Spirit God. Ananias lied to Peter, and Peter said he has lied also to the Holy Spirit and to God. Except you are saying Peter is the Holy Spirit or that he is God?

1Cor.3.16 - Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

Yes we are God's temple and the spirit of God dwells in each of us, God doesn't dwell in us, He abides among us, He is with us and not in us. Here again it doesn't call the spirit of God God, does it?

2Cor.3.17 - Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
2Cor.3.18 - But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Now because God is Spirit doesn't mean He is the one that Jesus sent to us and neither does it mean we worship the Holy Spirit but we worship in the Holy Spirit.

John.4.24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

Neither of these verses call the Holy Spirit God has clearly as you stated neither does it do so indirectly.

But if you still believe that the Holy Spirit is God then answer me this.

Rev.4.5 And from the throne proceeded lightnings, thunderings, and voices. Seven lamps of fire were burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.


How many Gods are before God?

Seven spirits of who?


God.
So it's God's, they are no different from God or separate from God, since they are seven spirits of God, right?


Also, would another person be dwelling in God's temple besides God?

gohf:
Acts 5:3-4 Peter did not call the Holy Spirit God. Ananias lied to Peter, and Peter said he has lied also to the Holy Spirit and to God. Except you are saying Peter is the Holy Spirit or that he is God?

1Cor.3.16 - Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

Yes we are God's temple and the spirit of God dwells in each of us, God doesn't dwell in us, He abides among us, He is with us and not in us. Here again it doesn't call the spirit of God God, does it?

2Cor.3.17 - Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
2Cor.3.18 - But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Now because God is Spirit doesn't mean He is the one that Jesus sent to us and neither does it mean we worship the Holy Spirit but we worship in the Holy Spirit.

John.4.24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

Neither of these verses call the Holy Spirit God has clearly as you stated neither does it do so indirectly.

But if you still believe that the Holy Spirit is God then answer me this.

Rev.4.5 And from the throne proceeded lightnings, thunderings, and voices. Seven lamps of fire were burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.


How many Gods are before God?

God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit make up the Holy Trinity and there is no argument to this truth unless you are not a Christian.

Godson1379:
God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit make up the Holy Trinity and there is no argument to this truth unless you are not a Christian.

if believing such a lie is what makes one a Christian then I am not.

I am a disciple of Jesus, I carry my cross and follow him.

gohf:
if believing such a lie is what makes one a Christian then I am not.

I am a disciple of Jesus, I carry my cross and follow him.

What exactly is your point?

You want to challenge age long truths that's as old as Christianity itself?

According to the Bible, he rose in body and flesh. Ascended into heaven been watched


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Godson1379:
What exactly is your point?

You want to challenge age long truths that's as old as Christianity itself?

age long lies will never become the truth no matter how long they have been believed

https://www.nairaland.com/8303116/holy-spirit-god

https://www.nairaland.com/8167601/jesus-christ-not-god

https://www.nairaland.com/8318810/jesus-jehovah

https://www.nairaland.com/8212430/when-say-jesus-not-god

https://www.nairaland.com/8314955/trinitarians-believe-pre-tribulation-falsechrist

Pick anyone to start with.

I asked you a question how many "gods" are before God?

You didn't answer but here you ask me what is my point?

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.” “Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.” When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions. Mark 12: 29 - 34

Godson1379:
God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit make up the Holy Trinity and there is no argument to this truth unless you are not a Christian.

Does the diagram in the screenshot below explain the structure of the Trinity?

Truthseeker10:
Does the diagram in the screenshot below explain the structure of the Trinity?

I sometimes mirror lies hoping to see a reflection of truth but i see nothing but more lies as it's always expected from the master of it.

gohf:
age long lies will never become the truth no matter how long they have been believed

https://www.nairaland.com/8303116/holy-spirit-god

https://www.nairaland.com/8167601/jesus-christ-not-god

https://www.nairaland.com/8318810/jesus-jehovah

https://www.nairaland.com/8212430/when-say-jesus-not-god

https://www.nairaland.com/8314955/trinitarians-believe-pre-tribulation-falsechrist

Pick anyone to start with.

I asked you a question how many "gods" are before God?

You didn't answer but here you ask me what is my point?

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.” “Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.” When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions. Mark 12: 29 - 34

Truth will always be truth no matter how many "clever" lies attempt to challenge the truths with voluminous writings and arguments.

Look, the concept of God and salvation is soo simple that even a child, a non lettered person or an illiterate could understand without much stress as God is not the author of confusion.

All your threads and arguments simply remind me of this Bible verse

2 Timothy 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Does that look familiar?

Godson1379:
Truth will always be truth no matter how many "clever" lies attempt to challenge the truths with voluminous writings and arguments.

Look, the concept of God and salvation is soo simple that even a child, a non lettered person or an illiterate could understand without much stress as God is not the author of confusion.

All your threads and arguments simply remind me of this Bible verse

2 Timothy 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Does that look familiar?

And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form. But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe. You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life. "I do not receive honor from men. But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you. I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive. How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only God?


who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.


And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.


since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith.

For there is one God . and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,

Now a mediator does not mediate for one only, but God is one.

yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.

"You shall have no other gods before Me.

For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me.

who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,... traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Now as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith;

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom: Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

Godson1379:
Truth will always be truth no matter how many "clever" lies attempt to challenge the truths with voluminous writings and arguments.

How can we IDENTIFY the truth so that all of us can walk along the WAY of TRUTH to gain LIFE? Isaiah 35:8

Jesus said:

“I am the WAY and the TRUTH and the LIFE. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6

But there are billions of people on planet earth today all claiming believers in Christ Jesus yet they are all contradicting themselves in teachings and doctrine a sign that something is wrong because Jesus prayed for his disciples to have the same line of thought {John 17:22} and his first century disciples worked hard to do that. 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

So what will serve as evidence that some people knew this truth today?

Godson1379:
I sometimes mirror lies hoping to see a reflection of truth but i see nothing but more lies as it's always expected from the master of it.

Oga I don't understand you oo...does the diagram explain trinity or not?

Truthseeker10:
Oga I don't understand you oo...does the diagram explain trinity or not?

It explains nothing but your delusion

MaxInDHouse:
How can we IDENTIFY the truth so that all of us can walk along the WAY of TRUTH to gain LIFE? Isaiah 35:8

Jesus said:

“I am the WAY and the TRUTH and the LIFE. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6

But there are billions of people on planet earth today all claiming believers in Christ Jesus yet they are all contradicting themselves in teachings and doctrine a sign that something is wrong because Jesus prayed for his disciples to have the same line of thought {John 17:22} and his first century disciples worked hard to do that. 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

So what will serve as evidence that some people knew this truth today?

Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the Life and not religion and neither Jehovah's witnesses

Godson1379:
Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the Life and not religion and neither Jehovah's witnesses

I have heard that many times but it's not working because if Jesus truly have one organization of believers {John 17:22} who are united and have love among themselves just as Jesus loves them {John 13:34-35} one religion should stand out {Matthew 5:14-16} as his true WITNESSES! Act 1:8

So if all of you are denying this fact because all your religions have failed to meet up i have found one that's meeting up and i'm sorry there is no compromise on that.

Thank you!

Godson1379:
It explains nothing but your delusion

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