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I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by LegendHero(op): 10:30pm On Jan 26, 2025
Former President Olusegun Obasanjo has said although he is Christian, he does not joke with Ifa.

The Ifa divination system, which makes use of an extensive corpus of texts and mathematical formulas, is practised among traditional worshippers in Yoruba communities. Ifa refers to the mystical figure perceived as the deity of wisdom and intellectual development.

He particularly said the Yoruba culture must be guided because it’s “authentic.”

“When I was growing up, there are two things that you don’t imagine a woman should do. You cannot see a woman climbing a palm tree. Secondly, you cannot see a woman playing talking drum, Ara had broken the taboo and she had done it very well.”

The former president said the lesson in what Ara had done is that one must do whatever he or she is doing very well.

“We must not joke with our culture. We are being relegated to the background, our language is being relegated, our food, our dress and others. We must not allow it. They are things that are authentic. Yoruba is not vernacular.”

Obasanjo maintained that despite being a Christian, he hasn’t forgotten his culture.

“I am a Christian, I had attended two churches today and that does not mean that I should forget my culture. Whoever says Ifa is nothing, I will say that person is a big fool.

“Before Christianity and Islam, we have Ifa Orunmila meaning Olorun lo mo eni to ma la “It is Heaven that knows who will be saved,” he said.

Ara thanked Obasanjo, for the honour done to her.

Ara, who said she started playing talking drum at age 10 in her father’s palace in Ondo, said parents should do everything possible to preserve the culture.
Source: https://dailytrust.com/obasanjo-im-a-christian-but-i-dont-joke-with-ifa/

Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by brain54(m): 10:40pm On Jan 26, 2025
What about sango...

And amadioha. Oh... I forgot amadioha is the other side of the Niger!
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by MasterJayJay: 10:40pm On Jan 26, 2025
I am a vegetarian but I love to eat fried chicken.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by iamnotillicit(m): 10:41pm On Jan 26, 2025
Baba Iyabo


Epon Jagbala...

🤗
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Righteousness2(m):
Your Excellency Sir,
You cannot Serve two Masters!
It does not matter how many churches you go to in a day.
You cannot claim to Serve GOD and Serve ifa or whatever.
It is an act of one deceiving himself or herself!

Choose you this day whom ye will Serve.
The gods of your traditions or the True GOD of Heaven and Earth, THE CREATOR AND INNVENTOR OF THE WORLD.


As for me and my Generations, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, THE GOD OF ISRAEL.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Christistruth02:
You forgot you dropped your Christian name Matthew and asked to be called Ebora Owu instead

Don’t tell everybody what they already know

Your wife Mrs Taiwo Obasanjo already spilled all the beans about you and your Ogboni Fraternity
and she warned everyone to never make the mistake of attending your parties if they wanted to
live long

https://www.tori.ng/news/60944/my-sons-wedding-is-an-occultic-ceremony-obasanjos.html

Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 10:54pm On Jan 26, 2025
Oga presidoo choose one na. The more reason I welcome Shariah law in the SW
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by LegendHero(op): 10:57pm On Jan 26, 2025
Righteousness2:
Your Excellency Sir,
You cannot Serve two Masters!
It does not matter how many churches you go to in a day.
You cannot claim to Serve GOD and Serve ifa or whatever.
It is an act of one deceiving himself or herself!

Choose you this day whom ye will Serve.
The gods of your traditionss or the True GOD of Heaven and Earth.

As for me and my Generations, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, THE GOD OF ISRAEL.
Your god of Israel wey dey look like mumu when Israelis dey mud kid for Palestine na em you wan make Obasanjo support?

Who is deceiving themselves between you and OBJ? You wey dey praise the god of murderers or OBJ wey dey praise the god of his ancestors?

Sometimes I dey think say you religious fanatics get mental issue.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Righteousness2(m): 10:59pm On Jan 26, 2025
LegendHero:
Your God of Israel wey dey look like mumu when Israelis dey mud kid for Palestine na em you wan make Obasanjo support?
Only one whose brain has been terribly tampered with insults his CREATOR.

Check yourself young boy before you use your hands to waste and destroy yourself.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Rocky247(m): 11:01pm On Jan 26, 2025
Kudos OBJ
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by LegendHero(op): 11:02pm On Jan 26, 2025
Righteousness2:
Only one whose brain has been terribly tampered with insults his CREATOR.

Check yourself young boy.
My creator is not your own creator. He create life and don’t go after mudding children like your own god of Israel or whatever.

Ifa is a link to the true creator. Stop hyping your blood thirsty god over Ifa.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by LegendHero(op): 11:07pm On Jan 26, 2025
brain54:
What about sango...

And amadioha. Oh... I forgot amadioha is the other side of the Niger!
Sango is an Orisha. He was also the third Alaafin of Oyo.

Ifa is a means of divination and you can’t compare ifa to Sango coz they are two separate things.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by helinues: 11:11pm On Jan 26, 2025
Iwaju opon ifa, eyin opon ifa. Baa fe Omo loju ariran.

grin
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by helinues: 11:13pm On Jan 26, 2025
Righteousness2:
Your Excellency Sir,
You cannot Serve two Masters!
It does not matter how many churches you go to in a day.
You cannot claim to Serve GOD and Serve ifa or whatever.
It is an act of one deceiving himself or herself!

Choose you this day whom ye will Serve.
The gods of your traditionss or the True GOD of Heaven and Earth.

As for me and my Generations, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, THE GOD OF ISRAEL.
Guy just shut it. Who are you to tell others what to belief?

You religious people should stop this boring attitude of forcing your religion on others
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by helinues: 11:14pm On Jan 26, 2025
LegendHero:
My creator is not your own creator. He create life and don’t go after mudding children like your own god of Israel or whatever.

Ifa is a link to the true creator. Stop hyping your blood thirsty god over Ifa.
Bro, that guy's confusion is raised to power 16. Must every one sleep and face the same direction?
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by franchasofficia: 11:14pm On Jan 26, 2025
Lol
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by SeeWahala: 11:15pm On Jan 26, 2025
Na to arrange stone wey we go take stone you like how Yoruba Muslims stoned all those bleaching isese old women last week cool

Come outside without security wearing white and carrying calabash make we check something grin
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by galserv: 11:24pm On Jan 26, 2025
Kolewerk
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Jokerman(m): 11:44pm On Jan 26, 2025
Ifa that will send you to hell, and whip you there.

At this age Baba, better repent, make restitution and get right with God, and full embrace Christ.

Ifa , and the rest na demons deceiving humans that they are gods, but are actually plotting to trap your soul in the fiery pits of hell, that Jesus has saved you from.

Ifa, Amadioha, Osun, Ogun, Allah, etc, cannot save.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Looking4Trouble: 12:31am On Jan 27, 2025
Only idiots think politicians are either Christians or Muslims. They are all practicing the three
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by OkCornel(m):
IFÁ is a divination system just like how Urim and Thummim was a divination system in ancient Israel.

IFÁ na spiritual google

Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Gotocourt: 2:42am On Jan 27, 2025
shocked
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Gotocourt: 2:49am On Jan 27, 2025
Righteousness2:
Your Excellency Sir,
You cannot Serve two Masters!
It does not matter how many churches you go to in a day.
You cannot claim to Serve GOD and Serve ifa or whatever.
It is an act of one deceiving himself or herself!

Choose you this day whom ye will Serve.
The gods of your traditionss or the True GOD of Heaven and Earth.

As for me and my Generations, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, THE GOD OF ISRAEL.
ITK
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by SporaD8: 4:51am On Jan 27, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Oga presidoo choose one na. The more reason I welcome Shariah law in the SW
Ifa odu is not a Religion .
Quite a lot of people can hardly distinguish between Religion and Spirituality. I e Prayer did not belong to any particular religion, same way the Ifa divination system is irreligious.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by SporaD8: 6:24am On Jan 27, 2025
Jokerman:
Ifa that will send you to hell, and whip you there.

At this age Baba, better repent, make restitution and get right with God, and full embrace Christ.

Ifa , and the rest na demons deceiving humans that they are gods, but are actually plotting to trap your soul in the fiery pits of hell, that Jesus has saved you from.

Ifa, Amadioha, Osun, Ogun, Allah, etc, cannot save.
It's very unfortunate that the prejudice and biase people directed toward IFA is borne out of misinformation and ignorance.
I will ask a few questions - How were the mariners in the boat of Tarshish able to pick Jonah as the cause of their misfortune?
How was Joshua able to pick Achan as the cause of their defeat in the hand of Ai?
Even the Hadith of the Muslims made mentions of casting lots!
Denying IFA is denying the creator: DNA is one of the most complex Odu in existence!
You use the predictability of a Transistor everyday in your gadget yet sees IFA as witchcraft?!
The jokes is on you bro!
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by ZombieDredd: 6:45am On Jan 27, 2025
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by omowolewa: 6:47am On Jan 27, 2025
At least, you remember your original belief. Africans
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by ZombieDredd: 6:48am On Jan 27, 2025
SporaD8:
Ifa odu is not a Religion .
Quite a lot of people can hardly distinguish between Religion and Spirituality. I e Prayer did not belong to any particular religion, same way the Ifa divination system is irreligious.
Keep playing

If a diviner is in charge, God said not to contact any diviner - He maketh them mad.

Which god do you pray to in Ifa?
The sacrifices offered to in Ifa, is to whom?
Are there no rituals in Ifa? To whom are they done?
There are only good and evil in the world, no inbetween
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Nobody:
Righteousness2:
Your Excellency Sir,
You cannot Serve two Masters!
It does not matter how many churches you go to in a day.
You cannot claim to Serve GOD and Serve ifa or whatever.
It is an act of one deceiving himself or herself!

Choose you this day whom ye will Serve.
The gods of your traditionss or the True GOD of Heaven and Earth.

As for me and my Generations, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, THE GOD OF ISRAEL.
Oga be calming down sometimes. Your own too much.

You are not more Christian than so many of us on this forum.

Just so you know, I am a Christian baptized in the Holy Ghost. I don't just speak tongues. I speak mysterious tongues.

You cannot stand close to me if I pray. You will collapse. I don't need to proove it to you. My tongues extracts spirits from bodies. But that is not my point here.

I do want you to know that I am a pure Igbo man too from Anambra. Pure blood. Infact, I am royalty.

As much as I am a Christian, I still honour my ancestors. I pour libations to them. I feed them. I venerate them. But I DON'T WORSHIP THEM. That is the key difference.

This is the reason why Catholics HONOR Mary. Catholics don't worship mary as so many wicked Christians propagate. Catholics honour Mary because she is not just like every other woman.

Mary is a special woman chosen by God to bear the saviour of the world.

This is why Catholics honour and venerate her. Catholics worship only God through Jesus the Christ.

There is a reason Christ told people in the Bible;

"Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar. Give to God what belongs to God".

Bros, Caeasar is very real. You know this.

This is the reason some of us Christians like Obasanjo honour certain divinities to "avoid issues". We don't worship them.

But most of you Nigerian protestants are too hot blooded. Una over sabi too much.

There is a reason God created me an Igbo man and created others Hausa or Yoruba. You don't know more than God. There is something called IGBO TRADITION. But will you ever learn?

You are just a baby Christian. I have been a Christian for over 40 years.

This tradition is the Reason Catholics will remain supreme for all eternity. Many churches come and go. But Catholics remained for over 2000 years. It is Tradition.

Even David Oyedepo acknowledged this.

If you believe you have so much powers brother, I will conduct an experiment with you. I will send you to an Oracle in Idemmili.

If you believe there is no power there, I triple dare you to lift that Oracle and burn it. You will just die like a fowl.

Bros, learn this today. THE BIBLE IS EVERYTHING. BUT THE BIBLE IS NOT THE ONLY THING.

There are Revelations and Traditions.

It is through revelation that the Catholic Church in her mighty wisdom discovered the Arch Angel named St Michael. A powerful Archangel of the most high living God.

But will you ever want to learn? I doubt. Your protestant blood is overflowing. You are the gatekeeper of heaven. I understand.

Remain blessed Sir.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by oyeb15: 7:09am On Jan 27, 2025
These people have sent many souls to d world beyond all in d name of power and politics.

Nobody will live forever
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Judolisco(m): 7:10am On Jan 27, 2025
Obj strong man
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