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Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Successlane: 9:00am On Jan 27, 2025
Who no know before.?

Ebora Owu,

Lakuru topa

Obelekun sunkun Eru nbelekun
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by DextrousD: 9:05am On Jan 27, 2025
MasterJayJay:
I am a vegetarian but I love to eat fried chicken.
cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Trueprophet91: 9:05am On Jan 27, 2025
LegendHero:
Your god of Israel wey dey look like mumu when Israelis dey mud kid for Palestine na em you wan make Obasanjo support?

Who is deceiving themselves between you and OBJ? You wey dey praise the god of murderers or OBJ wey dey praise the god of his ancestors?

Sometimes I dey think say you religious fanatics get mental issue.
The way you talk about God, I hope you don't have mental problem yourself
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Nobody: 9:26am On Jan 27, 2025
Jokerman:
Ifa that will send you to hell, and whip you there.

At this age Baba, better repent, make restitution and get right with God, and full embrace Christ.

Ifa , and the rest na demons deceiving humans that they are gods, but are actually plotting to trap your soul in the fiery pits of hell, that Jesus has saved you from.

Ifa, Amadioha, Osun, Ogun, Allah, etc, cannot save.
You are so ignorant and confused. You worship a man yet you think you will be saved? Jeremiah 17:5-10 New International Version (NIV)
This is what the LORD says: “Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who draws strength from mere flesh and whose heart turns away from the LORD. You should repent!!!
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by adams123: 9:28am On Jan 27, 2025
Righteousness2:
Your Excellency Sir,
You cannot Serve two Masters!
It does not matter how many churches you go to in a day.
You cannot claim to Serve GOD and Serve ifa or whatever.
It is an act of one deceiving himself or herself!

Choose you this day whom ye will Serve.
The gods of your traditions or the True GOD of Heaven and Earth, THE CREATOR AND INNVENTOR OF THE WORLD.


As for me and my Generations, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, THE GOD OF ISRAEL.
Let us serve the THE GOD ALMIGHTY, THE LORD OF THE WORLD "ALLAH" THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE.
You should stop worshipping Jesus Christ because worshipping Jesus Christ is the same as worshipping ifa in Obasanjo's case. Be a Muslim and get eternal salvation.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by lawani(m): 9:32am On Jan 27, 2025
adams123:
Let us serve the THE GOD ALMIGHTY, THE LORD OF THE WORLD "ALLAH" THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE.
You should stop worshipping Jesus Christ because worshipping Jesus Christ is the same as worshipping ifa in Obasanjo's case. Be a Muslim and get eternal salvation.
Just like your parents want you to respect other people, the chief deity or God does not have any issue with you worshipping anything. Don't be deceived by holy books. God is against evil not against idolatry. The real God is not a jealous God. Your parents can't get jealous if you greet and respect other people.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by cliffypatt(m): 9:55am On Jan 27, 2025
OkCornel:
IFÁ is a divination system just like how Urim and Thummim was a divination system in ancient Israel.

IFÁ na spiritual google
Well written, even a layman will understand. 👏
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by merits(m): 10:20am On Jan 27, 2025
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Konquest: 10:28am On Jan 27, 2025
LegendHero:
Former President Olusegun Obasanjo has said although he is Christian, he does not joke with Ifa.

The Ifa divination system, which makes use of an extensive corpus of texts and mathematical formulas, is practised among traditional worshippers in Yoruba communities. Ifa refers to the mystical figure perceived as the deity of wisdom and intellectual development.

He particularly said the Yoruba culture must be guided because it’s “authentic.”

“When I was growing up, there are two things that you don’t imagine a woman should do. You cannot see a woman climbing a palm tree. Secondly, you cannot see a woman playing talking drum, Ara had broken the taboo and she had done it very well.”


The former president said the lesson in what Ara had done is that one must do whatever he or she is doing very well.

“We must not joke with our culture. We are being relegated to the background, our language is being relegated, our food, our dress and others. We must not allow it. They are things that are authentic. Yoruba is not vernacular.”

Obasanjo maintained that despite being a Christian, he hasn’t forgotten his culture.

“I am a Christian, I had attended two churches today and that does not mean that I should forget my culture. Whoever says Ifa is nothing, I will say that person is a big fool.

“Before Christianity and Islam, we have Ifa Orunmila meaning Olorun lo mo eni to ma la “It is Heaven that knows who will be saved,” he said.


Ara thanked Obasanjo, for the honour done to her.

Ara, who said she started playing talking drum at age 10 in her father’s palace in Ondo, said parents should do everything possible to preserve the culture.
Source: https://dailytrust.com/obasanjo-im-a-christian-but-i-dont-joke-with-ifa/
Even in Cuba, Brazil, Trinidad and Tobago, the United States, Venezuela, etc, there's a very strong retention of the Yoruba culture and religion with almost 10,000 practicing Babalawos (OR Ifa Priests) in existence in Cuba alone with both White folks and those of Afro-Cuban descent from. Havana, Matanzas, and elsewhere.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by AngelicBeing: 10:44am On Jan 27, 2025
MasterJayJay:
I am a vegetarian but I love to eat fried chicken.
You have started again 😀😋
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Guestmale: 10:52am On Jan 27, 2025
MasterJayJay:
I am a vegetarian but I love to eat fried chicken.
grin grin grin
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Konquest:
Christistruth02:
You forgot you dropped your Christian name Matthew and asked to be called Ebola Owu instead

Don’t tell everybody what they already know

You wife Mrs Taiwo Obasanjo already spilled all the beans about you and your Ogboni Fraternity and she warned everyone to never make the mistake of attending your parties if they wanted to
live long

https://www.tori.ng/news/60944/my-sons-wedding-is-an-occultic-ceremony-obasanjos.html
His former wife is Mrs Taiwo Obasanjo (nee. Martins), and she's the twin sister of Chief Kenny Martins.

Second, you are rehashing incorrect information here based off of wild speculations from Taiwo Obasanjo. She unfortunately has that habit of making speculative statements sometimes, so it's completely wrong for you to speak in absolute terms by accusing OBJ in your last paragraph.

You guys have to be guarded when quoting from other sources that are geared towards soft sell stories
like this toriNG publication.

Besides, if you've gained personal mastery and ascendancy, you will realize that it's NOT an accident that people are born into specific regions and cultures of this planet as babies, getting to practice the religions of the families they were born into and as some grow older, the leave the religions they were born into because they have outgrown what they knew in the past and developed a higher state of awareness and consciousness.

I want you to think deeply... For many of the dead ancestors who NEVER practiced Xtianity or Islam, etc, are you religious folks implying they would all go to a "lake of sulfur, fire, and brimstone called hell fire?" OBVIOUSLY NOT, because the so-called "hell fire" is used metaphorically (or allegorical) here due to the FACT that all refuse or wastes used to disposed outside the gates of Jerusalem and a MIX of "sulfur, fire, and brimstone" was used to burn all the wastes or refuse. So, "hell fire" doesn't exist BUT was developed as a bible metaphor for striking fear into people. My decades of comparative religion studies have enabled me to have advanced knowledge of how the orthodox religions you have today were created by men with doctrines and so-called scriptures that embarrassingly CONTRADICT one another from page to page OR celebrate gory murders... Those can't be called "holy books." There's a lot I would have said about the "astrotheological" origins or roots of orthodox religions and modern Christianity based off of the Sun veneration (which is why Sunday is devoted as the day for Sun God worship from ancient times) but I will stop here because I've got limited time to spend on this Website.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by PARADIZEPRIEST: 11:01am On Jan 27, 2025
Christian indeed angry keep wondering the gullibles not Us.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by ElSudani: 11:01am On Jan 27, 2025
Righteousness2:
Your Excellency Sir,
You cannot Serve two Masters!
It does not matter how many churches you go to in a day.
You cannot claim to Serve GOD and Serve ifa or whatever.
It is an act of one deceiving himself or herself!

Choose you this day whom ye will Serve.
The gods of your traditions or the True GOD of Heaven and Earth, THE CREATOR AND INNVENTOR OF THE WORLD.


As for me and my Generations, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, THE GOD OF ISRAEL.
Fake pastor, where did he say he practices Ifa? You can practice your own religion without infringing on the right of others to practice theirs.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Bahamas95(m): 11:25am On Jan 27, 2025
Righteousness2:
Your Excellency Sir,
You cannot Serve two Masters!
It does not matter how many churches you go to in a day.
You cannot claim to Serve GOD and Serve ifa or whatever.
It is an act of one deceiving himself or herself!

Choose you this day whom ye will Serve.
The gods of your traditions or the True GOD of Heaven and Earth, THE CREATOR AND INNVENTOR OF THE WORLD.


As for me and my Generations, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, THE GOD OF ISRAEL.

Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by ChiefOkporghe: 11:42am On Jan 27, 2025
SporaD8:
It's very unfortunate that the prejudice and biase people directed toward IFA is borne out of misinformation and ignorance.
I will ask a few questions - How were the mariners in the boat of Tarshish able to pick Jonah as the cause of their misfortune?
How was Joshua able to pick Achan as the cause of their defeat in the hand of Ai?
Even the Hadith of the Muslims made mentions of casting lots!
Denying IFA is denying the creator: DNA is one of the most complex Odu in existence!
You use the predictability of a Transistor everyday in your gadget yet sees IFA as witchcraft?!
The jokes is on you bro!
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by InvertedHammer: 1:06pm On Jan 27, 2025
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It is funny how some people invaded the country, colonized them and forced their religion on the people and their generations unborn. Now that's one heck of a power move. grin Didn't end there? Some people are no longer Emeka Okeke or Ngozi Umeh. They identify as Michael Jonathan or Jennifer Emmanuel. grin Like I always say, if the picture of Jesus is a blackman, African churches will be empty. A white man on the cross fits well into the narratives.

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Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by LegendHero(op): 1:28pm On Jan 27, 2025
kingthreat:
As a christian I am not angry of this stupid statement.
But I am willing to pay you to say the same against muslims on a video showing your full face.
No be today I dey yab Islamic fanatics. Check my post history.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by LegendHero(op): 1:30pm On Jan 27, 2025
Trueprophet91:
The way you talk about God, I hope you don't have mental problem yourself
He said god of Israel. How can god of Israel be the creator of the world when he is only for Israel?

Shey your brain been destroyed by colonialism that you can’t think no more? Why not god of Nigeria or god of Yoruba?
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Christistruth02:
Konquest:
His former wife is Mrs Taiwo Obasanjo (nee. Martins), and she's the twin sister of Chief Kenny Martins.

Second, you are rehashing incorrect information here based off of wild speculations from Taiwo Obasanjo. She unfortunately has that habit of making speculative statements a times, so it's completely wrong for you to speak in absolute terms by accusing OBJ in your last paragraph.

You guys have to be guarded when quoting from other sources that are geared towards soft sell takes
like this toriNG publication.

Besides, if you've gained personally mastery and ascendancy, you will realize that it's NOT an accident that people are born into specific regions and cultures of this planet as babies, getting to practice the religions of the families they were born into and as some grow older, the leave the religions they were born into because they have a higher state of awareness and consciousness.

I want you to think deeply... For many of the ancestors who NEVER practiced Xtianity or Islam, etc, are you religious folks implying they would go to a "lake of sulfur, fire, and brimstone hell fire?" OBVIOUSLY not, because it is used allegorically. My decades of comparative religion studies have enabled me to have advanced knowledge of how the orthodox religions you have today were created by men with doctrines and so-called scriptures that embarrassingly CONTRADICT one another from page to page OR celebrate gory murders... Those can't be called "holy books.",There's a lot I would have said about the "astrotheological" roots of orthodox religions and modern Christianity based off of the Sun veneration (which is why Sunday is devoted as the day for worship from ancient times) but I will stop here because I've got limited time to spend on this Website.
Christianity is based on true faith and veneration of Jesus Christ the Son of God and not the Sun



Go and read Bitter Sweet by Mama Iyabo (Obasanjo's first wife) she described Obasanjo as a very diabolical man.


She once watch through a window as a Witchdoctor of Obasanjo Used incantations on a Cow tied to a tree and as soon as the Cow Collapsed and died they quickly cut its head and butchered it.

The meat of the Cow was used for Obasanjo's Easter Party the next day and she had to order her Children to only eat from the platters of food Obasanjo himself was eating from and not touch any food he didn't touch


The Story is inside Mama Iyabo's book
Mrs Taiwo Obasanjo was not the first person to Claim Obasanjo's parties are occultic


Obasanjo 's eldest son Gbenga divorced his wife because according to him she was having an affair with Obasanjo his father
and Gbenga even requested a paternity test on his 2 Children to determine if they were his own or his father's own

By the way Obasanjo has been the National Grandmaster of Nigerian Freemasons not once but twice

Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by AguluLiar: 2:11pm On Jan 27, 2025
slimfit1:
Abacha died the day he planned to kill all the Yoruba soldiers.
Yes!

A late celestial man named prophet Adebayo, came on MITV program in January 1998 to release his prophecies for the year.

He said during the program that there were 2 people among the coupists that nobody can kill. He said anyone that tried to kill these two people would run into problems. He said he would not mention the two people.

Abacha later died that year in July, in a mysterious circumstances.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Christistruth02: 2:23pm On Jan 27, 2025
AguluLiar:
Yes!

A late celestial man named prophet Adebayo, came on MITV program in January 1998 to release his prophecies for the year.

He said during the program that there were 2 people among the coupists that nobody can kill. He said anyone that tried to kill these two people would run into problems. He said he would not mention the two people.

Abacha later died that year in July, in a mysterious circumstances.
A 3 day National Fast was declared by Nigerian Christians they said God wanted to do something Great in Nigeria .
on the 3rd and last day of the fast ( Monday) ,news came that Abacha had suddenly passed on in the Night

There was actually a Mini Revival after Abacha passed because so many people saw it as a Miracle

People like Gen Diya said he and those Gen Abacha's Govt had condemned to face the fire Squad were on their way to be executed when some of the Soldiers guarding them started arguing that they would shoot anyone trying to carry out the sentence because they had heard that Gen Abacha had passed away in the Night
That was when Diya and the others found out Abacha had died in the Night

https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/abacha-died-on-eve-of-dads-planned-execution-diyas-son/%3famp

Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by aioluwa: 3:58pm On Jan 27, 2025
[quote author=LegendHero post=133885074]Your god of Israel wey dey look like mumu when Israelis dey mud kid for Palestine na em you wan make Obasanjo support?

Who is deceiving themselves between you and OBJ? You wey dey praise the god of murderers or OBJ wey dey praise the god of his ancestors?

Sometimes I dey think say you religious fanatics get mental issue.

Why ifa no stop Biko Haram?
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by RightChannel: 4:46pm On Jan 27, 2025
It should be Baptist from his profile I read sometimes ago!

MightySparrow:
I think, Bàbá pastorlawo is a methodist not Baptist.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by LegendHero(op): 5:12pm On Jan 27, 2025
[quote author=aioluwa post=133894226][/quote]Same reason your own israeli god no fit stop IPOB terrorism.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Came4amod: 5:13pm On Jan 27, 2025
MasterJayJay:
I am a vegetarian but I love to eat fried chicken.
Bro it's not even related ..
The Christianity we practice in Nigeria is adulterated ... The believe we are supposed to have is not enforced .. every Christian only proof is that you hear from God .. which 90% can't even hear their self .. talkless hearing from God .. and IFA also speaks to people .. just like the Christian God ..
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Tellmeastory: 5:28pm On Jan 27, 2025
Jokerman:
Ifa that will send you to hell, and whip you there.

At this age Baba, better repent, make restitution and get right with God, and full embrace Christ.

Ifa , and the rest na demons deceiving humans that they are gods, but are actually plotting to trap your soul in the fiery pits of hell, that Jesus has saved you from.

Ifa, Amadioha, Osun, Ogun, Allah, etc, cannot save.
Colonised, empty-headed dunce typing rubbish from his colonised head.

Disgusting specimen.

Meanwhile, the “Jesus” the white invaders conned you with….go to England and see how they have converted most of their churches to banks, betting houses and clubs, while you are here carrying their abandoned fairytale on your head like a mumu.

Olodo.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by MightySparrow: 6:24pm On Jan 27, 2025
RightChannel:
It should be Baptist from his profile I read sometimes ago!
Okay.
I am not sure.


Good luck to elder statesman Pastorlawo.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Uche559(m): 7:03pm On Jan 27, 2025
I boil water to make tea, but I don't drink it until is cold
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by mirrael68(m): 7:30pm On Jan 27, 2025
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by mirrael68(m): 7:31pm On Jan 27, 2025
Uche559:
I boil water to make tea, but I don't drink it until is cold
You are full of wisdom sir! Those who have ears let em hear
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by mirrael68(m): 7:33pm On Jan 27, 2025
Tellmeastory:
Colonised, empty-headed dunce typing rubbish from his colonised head.

Disgusting specimen.

Meanwhile, the “Jesus” the white invaders conned you with….go to England and see how they have converted most of their churches to banks, betting houses and clubs, while you are here carrying their abandoned fairytale on your head like a mumu.

Olodo.
No be white man matter, you ask Jesus to reveal Himself to you. So because a madman removes his clothes and dances naked outside so I should do same too?
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