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What is the 'unpardonable sin' mentioned in Matthew 12:31-32, and can someone commit it today?"

Digitmktguru:
What is the 'unpardonable sin' mentioned in Matthew 12:31-32, and can someone commit it today?"

The passage you quoted explains it right there to you. And only persons who are of the bloodline of Jacob — Lost sheep of Israel — and at the same time born-again—members of the Covenant that is Jesus Christ— can commit that sin.

Kobojunkie:
The passage you quoted explains it right there to you. And only persons who are of the bloodline of Jacob — Lost sheep of Israel — and at the same time born-again—members of the Covenant that is Jesus Christ— can commit that sin.

So of what use is the Bible if it is mainly for the Israelites and not for you as Jesus told the Canaanite woman that he wasn't sent except to the lost sheep of Israel?

Digitmktguru:
What is the 'unpardonable sin' mentioned in Matthew 12:31-32, and can someone commit it today?"

All of us have God's given conscience so whatever religion we are born into there is this inborn tendency to do what is good but in most cases we found ourselves doing what is bad due to circumstances beyond our control! Romans 7:15-23

So God Almighty knows our limitations when it comes to our imperfect state {Psalms 103:12-14} therefore He forgives us in a large way if we repent! Isaiah 55:7

But why will God refuse to forgive in this case?

Well He (God) has set a time to correct some abnormalities that we ourselves knows very well that such things need to be corrected and He has given us signs that will help us to know when the time arrives but when that time comes and we see people around us working towards what God promised which is not something that's usual for imperfect humans yet we choose to oppose it after knowing that it's what God promised then it's like fighting against God's Active Force operating on imperfect humans to do the needful such evil will never be forgiven! Matthew 12:31-32

That's exactly the evil committed by the Jewish religious leaders of Jesus' day, they knew everything God promised about the Christ and how imperfect humans will start working with him but due to their own political ambitions they began fighting against what they themselves have taught the people to believe for ages!

AbuTwins:
✓ So of what use is the Bible if it is mainly for the Israelites and not for you as Jesus told the Canaanite woman that he wasn't sent except to the lost sheep of Israel?

The Books of the Bible were written by Israelites for other Israelites. Attempts by religions-- Judaism, Christianity, and Islam included ---- to hijack the writings for their own political greed and material delusions of their gods of men won't change that at all. The book and the prophets insist these religions are scams, and plots against those who adhere to them, same as the God of Israel —YHWH— had proclaimed from the very first pages.

Kobojunkie:
The Books of the Bible were written by Israelites for other Israelites. Attempts by religions-- Judaism, Christianity, and Islam included ---- to hijack the writings for their own political greed and material delusions of their gods of men won't change that at all. The book and the prophets insist these religions are scams, and plots against those who adhere to them, same as the God of Israel —YHWH— had proclaimed from the very first pages.

If the Books are by Israelites for Israelites, Abraham and Noah were not Israelites!

Also Balaam was not from Israel, Jonah was sent outside Israel and Nebuchadnezzar was from Babylonian empire!

AbuTwins:
➜If the Books are by Israelites for Israelites, Abraham and Noah were not Israelites! Also Balaam was not from Israel,
➜ Jonah was sent outside Israel
➜and Nebuchadnezzar was from Babylonian empire!

1. You are still not grasping the meaning behind it all. This battle between peoples and those whom they say are israelites is meaningless because the one who chose them is the one who named them Israelites.

According to the book, YHWH, the creator of all things, had the name "Israel" in mind even before He created the earth and man with it. He had His plan for the descendants of Jacob in hand before everything else He had for men. YHWH recruited Esau, Noah, Shem, Abraham, Balaam, and all the others who came before to further His plan called "Israel". YHWH, for reasons best known to Him, chose to wait to give that name specifically to the bloodline of the man named Jacob. Jacob was not named Israel by his parents. No! It was YHWH who gave Him that name. And once that plan was set into motion by Him, even the descendants of Jacob who mostly turned out to be arseholes as described by YHWH Himself could not change that choice He had made. Go read the Book of Deuteronomy and see for yourself that YHWH made it abundantly clear that it did not matter that the people in question were amongst the most wicked scum on the earth, as all that mattered was His choice of them for His plan.

2. Jonah was not the only Israelite sent to the surrounding nations in the area. Moses was sent to the King of Egypt and also to many other Kings during the journey to Canaan. Elijah, I remember well, he had to take a message to other kings too. The Israelites did not exist in Isolation of other Kingdoms and so the influence of the God of Israel impacted the nations in the area. That does not then mean that YHWH changed His mind regarding them.

3. Nebuchadnezzar?? He was a god worshipped by his own people. Even the dirge by YHWH through Isaiah regarding Nebuchadnezzar pitched him as such - Isaiah 14 vs 1 - 16. (This dirge which predicted the destruction of Nebuchadnezzar was revealed almost 150 years before the Judaeans were captured and taken to Babylon, mind you,) So, wetin give you the notion say Nebuchadnezzar was a man of the God of Israel abeg?

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That book has absolutely nothing to do with any other race on this planet. That much it makes abundantly clear in every book in that compendium.

Kobojunkie:
1. You are still not grasping the meaning behind it all. This battle between peoples and those whom they say are israelites is meaningless because the one who chose them is the one who named them Israelites.

According to the book, YHWH, the creator of all things, had the name "Israel" in mind even before He created the earth and man with it. He had His plan for the descendants of Jacob in hand before everything else He had for men. YHWH recruited Esau, Noah, Shem, Abraham, Balaam, and all the others who came before to further His plan called "Israel". YHWH, for reasons best known to Him, chose to wait to give that name specifically to the bloodline of the man named Jacob. Jacob was not named Israel by his parents. No! It was YHWH who gave Him that name. And once that plan was set into motion by Him, even the descendants of Jacob who mostly turned out to be arseholes as described by YHWH Himself could not change that choice He had made. Go read the Book of Deuteronomy and see for yourself that YHWH made it abundantly clear that it did not matter that the people in question were amongst the most wicked scum on the earth, as all that mattered was His choice of them for His plan.

2. Jonah was not the only Israelite sent to the surrounding nations in the area. Moses was sent to the King of Egypt and also to many other Kings during the journey to Canaan. Elijah, I remember well, he had to take a message to other kings too. The Israelites did not exist in Isolation of other Kingdoms and so the influence of the God of Israel impacted the nations in the area. That does not then mean that YHWH changed His mind regarding them.

3. Nebuchadnezzar?? He was a god worshipped by his own people. Even the dirge by YHWH through Isaiah regarding Nebuchadnezzar pitched him as such - Isaiah 14 vs 1 - 16. (This dirge which predicted the destruction of Nebuchadnezzar was revealed almost 150 years before the Judaeans were captured and taken to Babylon, mind you,) So, wetin give you the notion say Nebuchadnezzar was a man of the God of Israel abeg?

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That book has absolutely nothing to do with any other race on this planet. That much it makes abundantly clear in every book in that compendium.

You admitted that some of the Prophets were sent to other nations apart from Israel but you still retain your premise that the same books that contains the stories of these Prophets are only for Israel.

AbuTwins:
➜You admitted that some of the Prophets were sent to other nations apart from Israel but you still retain your premise that the same books that contains the stories of these Prophets are only for Israel.

You act like the Prophets were sent to those other nations for anything other than what amounts to diplomatic missions as is detailed in the book each time. 🙄

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This is one of the many reasons to utterly hate religion and what it has done to the minds of individuals. Ever ready to add, change, or even remove from the plain meaning of what is written in the book.... this very book. Very annoying since the very same folks would not dare try that nonsense with their daily reports at their places of work or anywhere else. 🙄🙄

Kobojunkie:
You act like the Prophets were sent to those other nations for anything other than what amounts to diplomatic missions as is detailed in the book each time. 🙄

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This is one of the many reasons to utterly hate religion and what it has done to the minds of individuals. Ever ready to add, change, or even remove from the plain meaning of what is written in the book.... this very book. Very annoying since the very same folks would not dare try that nonsense with their daily reports at their places of work or anywhere else. 🙄🙄

Hmmm

Kobojunkie:
You act like the Prophets were sent to those other nations for anything other than what amounts to diplomatic missions as is detailed in the book each time. 🙄

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This is one of the many reasons to utterly hate religion and what it has done to the minds of individuals. Ever ready to add, change, or even remove from the plain meaning of what is written in the book.... this very book. Very annoying since the very same folks would not dare try that nonsense with their daily reports at their places of work or anywhere else. 🙄🙄

What diplomatic mission was Jonah sent to do?

Digitmktguru:
What is the 'unpardonable sin' mentioned in Matthew 12:31-32, and can someone commit it today?"

Quote the place in KJV let us see what is there

Kobojunkie:
The Books of the Bible were written by Israelites for other Israelites. Attempts by religions-- Judaism, Christianity, and Islam included ---- to hijack the writings for their own political greed and material delusions of their gods of men won't change that at all. The book and the prophets insist these religions are scams, and plots against those who adhere to them, same as the God of Israel —YHWH— had proclaimed from the very first pages.

you sound like those black supremacists who believe they are Israelites and are the only ones to be saved?

AbuTwins:
✓ What diplomatic mission was Jonah sent to do?

Are you certain you have ever read the book of Jonah for yourself before? 🤔

gohf:
you sound like those black supremacists who believe they are Israelites and are the only ones to be saved?

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Are you OK in the head at all? You are told in the book that the God of Israel Himself, by His own Will, scattered His Israel to the four winds of the Earth — every language, every tribe, and every nation. Yet, in your head, the connection you see fit to make to that is a black supremacist movement whose stories and tales mirror instead that which is spewed by the 3 major religions?

Kobojunkie:
Are you OK in the head at all? You are told in the book that the God of Israel Himself, by His own Will, scattered His Israel to the four winds of the Earth — every language, every tribe, and every nation. Yet, in your head, the connection you see fit to make to that is a black supremacist movement whose stories and tales mirror instead that which is spewed by the 3 major religions?

my head is very okay, but what the heck are you typing 🙄, I asked you a question how does this nonsense you wrote make any sense or answer the question

AbuTwins:
What diplomatic mission was Jonah sent to do?

kobojunkie answer this question and stop typing rubbish

gohf:
➜kobojunkie answer this question and stop typing rubbish

Read the book and you will see it for yourself!

gohf:
my head is very okay, but what the heck are you typing 🙄, I asked you a question how does this nonsense you wrote make any sense or answer the question

You asked a dumb question not a reasonable question. This nonsense...

Kobojunkie:
... You are told in the book that the God of Israel Himself, by His own Will, scattered His Israel to the four winds of the Earth — every language, every tribe, and every nation. ...

... is what is stated in the book of what the God of Israel—YHWH— declared he would do and is believed to have done. If you do not understand it or even know it at all then it means you have never been following the God of Israel but your own whims.

Matthew 12:31-32
King James Version
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

The Word of God is the Holy Spirit of God which codification is the Holy Bible which he inspired his holy ones to write. Every jot or tittle in the Bible is inspired by God and it is his Holy Spirit because the words that he speaks to us, they are spirit and they are life. It is this Spirit that he breathed into Adam that made Adam to become a living soul because the words that he speaks to us, they are spirit and they are life.

Speaking against the Holy Spirit is deliberately misconstruing, deliberately misinterpreting, deliberately misquoting, deliberately misteaching deliberately misapplying, and deliberately misusing the Word of God. This is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit - breaking the commandments and teaching others to do so.

Revelation 22:17-19
King James Version
17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Kobojunkie:
Are you certain you have ever read the book of Jonah for yourself before? 🤔

I have. Just show us the diplomatic mission he was sent to carry out?

AbuTwins:
➜I have. Just show us the diplomatic mission he was sent to carry out?

A man from the nation of Israel was sent by the God of Israel to a nation whose people do not even worship Him at all—the Ninevites were idol worshippers. YHWH is never recorded to have never asserted Himself as God of the Assyrians or Ninevites. The agreement that existed at the time was the agreement between the previous Kings of Israel and the Assyrians — YHWH did not send His Prophets to offer any other agreement to the people of Assyrian or Nineveh. The message was to present a threat to the people if they did not change from the evil they were doing at the time— evil which we were not apprised of. Recall that Nineveh, possibly the capital of Assyria at the time, was a pagan town in a pagan country. Then God changed His mind about destroying them only after the people in question stopped doing that particular evil at that time.

Less than 200 years after that, YHWH not only destroyed the nation of Assyria but Nineveh with it, after using the Assyrian army for His goal. Like I said, you need to read the book without your religious goggles on. Similar happened to the Moabites, the Babylonians, etc, who were eventually all used and then destroyed by YHWH.