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Before we begin, let's start with some Misconceptions:

Misconception:

1. Muslims and Christians serve the same God.

Scriptures:

John 15 (KJV)
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²⁴ If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.


John.15.23 - He that hateth me hateth my Father also.

The scripture you're looking for is:

*John 14:7*

"If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."

— Jesus (NIV)

“That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.”
— John 5:23 (KJV)

Deductions....

Knowing and acknowledging the son is knowing the father...

You have to believe the son if you claim you know the father.

Believing the son is not believing him as a prophet.....it is believing him as the son of God and getting baptized.and doing his will.

So, Christians are not serving the same God with Muslims.

Misconception '

2. I am going to heaven because I am a Christian and I go to church....

Matthew 7 (KJV)
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²¹ Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

²² Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

²³ And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

I will explain Trinity soon....

We do not serve the same God and surely this thread will get interesting pretty soon, once the school of Arianism and its branches👀 pay this thread a visit.

Originakalokalo you are mistaken!

There's only one God the creator of Adam and other humans after him.

That is the Muslim God!

The Muslim God does not die like Jesus!

He is far above being three in one persons!

He is far above becoming human!

He is far above praying to another God while puting his head on the floor!

That God created Jesus and everything that exists!

So even to reach an understanding of basic concepts univocally is a problem, yet spout empty claims of having "the truth". 😄 Talk abt 🤡s

Now to Trinity.

God the Father is invisible.

“Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.”
— 1 Timothy 6:16 (KJV)

He is One God:

“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:”
— Deuteronomy 6:4 (KJV)

John 16 (KJV)
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²⁷ For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.
²⁸ I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

Notice the sentence CAME OUT FROM GOD.

Don't forget that God is invisible.

Someone visible came out from him...This is who the father called the Son....

Philip asked Jesus, Show us the father.

Jesus answered, you have seen me, why are you asking me to show you the father?

Now, still one God who is invisible.

Out of his came the visible one called the Son.

The assignment of the son is to be made a sacrifice for the sins of mankind.

How was the son birthed?

He was placed in the womb of Mary, without the intercourse of man and woman.

Why?

So that he will not inherit the sin of Adam and made him a worthless sacrifice.

This is the mystery:

THE SIN OF MAN CAN ONLY BE ATONED FOR BY THE BLOOD OF MAN THAT IS SPOTLESS.

Where was he birthed?

In a manger where lambs etc stay.

SIMPLY BECAUSE HE IS THE LAMB OF GOD THAT TAKES AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD.

Jesus said,

If you refuse to believe and accept this sacrifice that was made on your behalf, you stand condem ALREADY.

WHY?

You will carry all your sins yourself....and the only sacrifice that can ATONED FOR YOUR SINS IS THAT OF THE LAMB OF GOD.

Back to Trinity is a moment....

Meanwhile, don't wait till you close your eyes in death before you accept this sacrifice on your behalf..
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If you wait till you appear before the Dreadful Throne of God, you will weep and there will be no other atonement.....You are gone forever!!!!!

Forget religion...... think about this now....

Back to Trinity shortly

We have seen that God is One.

We have Also seen that Jesus came out from God.

We will see how holy Ghost also came out of God.

Let's look at what God created.......A Man.

A man has body
A man has soul
A man has spirit.

All this are in a man. The man, is one.....but has three different systems or units.

God is spirit...unseen.
Jesus is the body....seen.
God's spirit is the holy Spirit.


Take a look:



*John 15:26*: "When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father—he will testify about me." (NIV)


When Jesus told the disciples I CAME OUT FROM GOD.....they said....now you're talking...now we understand.... before you spoke in parables but now, we understand you.....

Okay. Is there any questions?

Jesus is Lord.

God is unseen invincible.

Jesus came out from God..... Physical, can be seen.

The holly spirit is God's spirit.

I have not mentioned two gods...or three gods.