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Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by Judolisco(m): 2:56pm On Jan 30, 2025
Samogloby:
South Africa military will finish Rwanda rag-tag military of less than 30 thousand standing army! In terms of fire power, South Africa military is one of the best in Africa
bros Hw many wars south African soldiers Don fight.... Kagame himself is a guerrilla fighter....South African soldiers haven't been involved in any kind of war before, so you can't say it will defeat Rwanda.... Why did the US fail in Afghanistan? After spending more than 20 yrs?
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by stagger: 2:58pm On Jan 30, 2025
foxman04:
South Africa that has no experience of war, never been at war, trying to act tough grin Paper tigers ..
I heard their soldiers are been butchered like meats in Congo undecided
You do not know what you are saying. Go and read your history as to the activities of the South African army in Namibia, Angola, Mozambique, etc in the 70s and 80s.

South Africa was well on its way to developing a nuclear program before the US convinced F W de Klerk to dismantle the project in 1989.

The veterans of the South African army are the ones who make up groups like Executive Decisions and other mercenary armies that are very active all over Africa and other parts of the world. Google what Executive Decisions did to the RUF rebels in TWO WEEKS in Sierra Leone when ECOMOG was struggling.

The scenes you saw from the film Blood Diamonds as to how the Russian-made attack helicopters took out the RUF guys in the mine was not fiction: it actually played out all over Sierra Leone.

The South African army is the best trained and best equipped in Africa. Make no mistake about it.

Everything you see in Rwanda was built with the solid minerals in eastern DR Congo via the proxy operations of M23 and other groups. This is an open secret.
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by Jlow2: 2:58pm On Jan 30, 2025
Mynd44:
Those that know Kagame already know who and what he is.

But I hope he keeps running his fingers and mouth at South Africa sha.

He will soon understand that the Rwandan Defence Force is a little more equipped that the South African Police when SA decides to man up and act.

Kagame should also know Nigeria is watching and waiting for an AU pronouncement before his glass house gets broken
which Nigeria? Nigerians that apc have finished with hunger, Kegame is not new to the game
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by Xisnin(m): 2:59pm On Jan 30, 2025
SmartyPants:
What capability? I just pointed out that the South African Defence Forces got trounced by a group of ragtag terrorists that the Rwandans dove out within weeks. This is Mozambique that is next door to South Africa. So what capacity are you talking about?
Countries rules of engagement and motivations are quite different based on the type of conflict.
Israeli troops harassed French peace keepers in Lebanon, that doesn't mean Israel can
wage a direct war against a fully motivated France.

Nigeria army got routed by Boko haram very close to the 2014 election, many soldiers ended up fleeing the war.
Until the SA mercenaries arrived to drive Shekau boys back and restore NA confidence in the fight.
Does that mean Nigeria is no match for South Africa should the two engage in direct conflict?

The Tigrays, who were very professional with years of fighting experience compared to the ill-motivated and unprofessional Ethiopian army were very close to overrunning Ethiopia's capital in the recent civil war but they end up losing.

The point is you cannot use a country's record in unconventional war to judge its conventional capabilities.
They require very different skill set.
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by waternogatenemy: 2:59pm On Jan 30, 2025
THERE MUST BE PEACE IN AFRICA, WHETHER THE DEVIL LIKES IT OR NOT.


RWANDA AND CONGO ARE NEIGHBOURS AND THE BORDERS MUST BE RESPECTED.



SOUTH AFRICA HAS NO PART IN THIS FIGHT AND THEY SHOULD NOT GET INVOLVED .



THIS IS A MATTER FOR AFRICA UNION TO RESOLVE.
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by bro4u: 3:01pm On Jan 30, 2025
THEDEEPSIGHT:
Nigeria is nothing and nobody in Africa.
It lacks both the political will to do anything worthwhile in the foreign space as well as the military and financial capacity needed to do so.
You're Still a kid,,your hate for Nigeria does not count. Nigeria is the third strongest military in Africa,, 2025 ranking.
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by Slimm01: 3:03pm On Jan 30, 2025
God1000:
Paul kagame should refrain from such utterances and stop destabilizing DRC, he's making mouth because he enjoys western support, he will be up against the regional coalition in southern Africa and possibly AU


But what is Felix Tshisekedi of DRC doing to address this problem, he's a weak president, I will never tolerate such thing as president.

This is a problem for south Africa, they can't pull out now because of shame
How do you mean Felix Tshisekedi is weak president? Somebody is fighting a rebel group with all his might...and u called him a weak president? He can only become a weak president if he sits back and watch those tutsi rebels natives of Rwanda to take control of eastern congo thereby handing over their mineral resources to Kegame.
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by Brilliancepower: 3:04pm On Jan 30, 2025
God1000:
https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/rwanda-ready-for-confrontation-with-south-africa-kagame/?
Can ECOMOG soldiers be allowed to wipe out M23 and arrest Kagame? Does AU have a military force to stop this bullshit? Kagame is a rebel!
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by CIZAR(m): 3:05pm On Jan 30, 2025
its so funny cos Rwanda is such a tiny country. a speck compared to DRC or South Africa. they must have people dictating the tune behind them to have to balls to challenge SA or even disrupt DRC. ordinary mercenaries from SA suppose fit over run them in 24 hours
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by bro4u: 3:06pm On Jan 30, 2025
Ignoramus:
A country of less than 20million persons challenging another country that's over 45million persons. He seems to forget that South Africa is a nuclear powered nation, and they produce their own weapons even as far as helicopters. When person dey count meat for pot periwinkle show him face for headcount. 😂 I laugh in Swahili 😜😂😄😭😅😂🤣 Paul Kagame wants to erase all the gains he's made in Rwanda with a War. Whom the gods want to destroy, they make them mad.
You know nothing about international politics, the west will obviously waste no time in supporting Rwanda why? Because SA is a member of BRICS, SA has the guts to take Israel of ICJ. Bro SA is inexperienced when it comes to war, their military is in a bad shape currently.. are you even on Twitter? SA citizens over there are not praying for it cos they're done for😂
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by FrancisIgya: 3:06pm On Jan 30, 2025
President Paul Kagame is taking the matter too far. South Africa is not Hutu , Burundi, Intarewhange or DRC where he would expect an easy walkover.
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by Ishilove: 3:06pm On Jan 30, 2025
Dogalmighty17:
What are they even fighting for? I chook my head inside my amala come comot am to chook for soup only for me to now hear that South Africa is in Congo fighting?

What is the world coming to?
The imagery!! cheesy cheesy
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by Emeskhalifa(m): 3:07pm On Jan 30, 2025
Samogloby:
South Africa military will finish Rwanda rag-tag military of less than 30 thousand standing army! In terms of fire power, South Africa military is one of the best in Africa
Do they (SA army) have any war experience?
We are talking about Rwanda with over a decade war experience oo.

No be by being big oo, shey SA sojo get war experience ni
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by Flows001(m): 3:08pm On Jan 30, 2025
Jonathan:
grin

Kagame has turned from hero to an evil villain. EFFECT OF GREED
AND THE SUPPORT HE GETS FROM THE WEST, HE FEELS UNTOUCHABLE.

HE WANTS TO CONTINUE CLINGING ON POWER.

His downfall is definitely eminent.

He is the main problemin the east Africa causing problem in DRC, Uganda etc.

JUST LIKE EVIL NATENYAHU IN THE MIDDLE EAST, LIKE KAGAME IN EAST AFRICA.
Netanyanhu is defending his country, Kagame is invading other countries unprovoked..
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by THEDEEPSIGHT: 3:09pm On Jan 30, 2025
bro4u:
You're Still a kid,,your hate for Nigeria does not count. Nigeria is the third strongest military in Africa,, 2025 ranking.
You are the kid. If you have not noticed our complete absence in foreign affairs then you must be vacant upstairs. If you have not noticed our economic situation then you must not even be old enough to pay bills yet - thats the only reason you will not know. If you dont know how poorly equipped our military is in its wars in the north, you dont know anything. Abeg park.

You really imagine we have money to go and fight in DRC.
Ordinary Niger Republic on our border we had to back down shamefully after making mouth.
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by benardtotti(m): 3:11pm On Jan 30, 2025
Jonathan:
Or deh
You are an IDIOT and the son of an imbecìle.
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by Free2Fly: 3:11pm On Jan 30, 2025
God1000:
https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/rwanda-ready-for-confrontation-with-south-africa-kagame/?
We will support the able Rwanda against the Xenophobic and hateful South Africans
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by Alliswell248: 3:11pm On Jan 30, 2025
tctrills:
If you can tolerate Tinubu then you can take anything as President.
U are still crying close to 24 months.

Hope you wont cry for 96 months before Tinubu handover to Shetimma.
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by Angelfrost(m): 3:12pm On Jan 30, 2025
SMH... Negroes can't even unite for once in their lives.

All these stupidity just because of solid minerals.
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by bro4u: 3:14pm On Jan 30, 2025
THEDEEPSIGHT:
You are the kid. If you have not noticed our complete absence in foreign affairs then you must be vacant upstairs. If you have not noticed our economic situation then you must not even be old enough to pay bills yet - thats the only reason you will not know. If you dont know how poorly equipped our military is in its wars in the north, you dont know anything. Abeg park.

You really imagine we have money to go and fight in DRC.
Ordinary Niger Republic on our border we had to back down shamefully after making mouth.
Bros rest. Like I said your hatred for Nigeria won't change a thing about Nigeria cos you're just one single inconsequential human. Nigeria is well respected in Africa, it is a powerhouse in Africa.
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by Alliswell248: 3:14pm On Jan 30, 2025
THEDEEPSIGHT:
You are the kid. If you have not noticed our complete absence in foreign affairs then you must be vacant upstairs. If you have not noticed our economic situation then you must not even be old enough to pay bills yet - thats the only reason you will not know. If you dont know how poorly equipped our military is in its wars in the north, you dont know anything. Abeg park.

You really imagine we have money to go and fight in DRC.
Ordinary Niger Republic on our border we had to back down shamefully after making mouth.
Igborrilaa people , supporters of the gbajue in chief cant disappoint.

Election loss has made the average ibibotamus people to hate anything Nigeria.

U are not rated.

No military power can dare the armed forces of Nigeria in battle, but we are for peace
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by zoedew: 3:16pm On Jan 30, 2025
God1000:
https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/rwanda-ready-for-confrontation-with-south-africa-kagame/?
Kagame knows what he is about and doing which is very much unlike the terrorist sympathiser in Ramaphosa ramming his nose into matters that are not his business!
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by foleskay(m): 3:17pm On Jan 30, 2025
foxman04:
South Africa that has no experience of war, never been at war, trying to act tough grin Paper tigers ..
I heard their soldiers are been butchered like meats in Congo undecided
Fact!! I'm yet to see a masculine looking south African. Most of their men look lanky in appearance. Rwanda go roast them. This game isn't about population any more. Germany almost single handedly take over all of Europe
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by Lovit(m): 3:18pm On Jan 30, 2025
What's Rwanda's interest in the DRC war?

Why are they teaming up with M23 militia to fight the DRC government?

someone should educate me here
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by Ykc2(m): 3:19pm On Jan 30, 2025
God1000:
Paul kagame should refrain from such utterances and stop destabilizing DRC, he's making mouth because he enjoys western support, he will be up against the regional coalition and possibly AU


But what is Felix Tshisekedi of DRC doing to address this problem, he's a weak president, I will never tolerate such thing as president.

This is a problem for south Africa, they can't pull out now because of shame
the west over pampered Paul kagami this is the result,Rwanda a country of 10 million landlocked country for that matter is invading congo
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by Mrtaye: 3:19pm On Jan 30, 2025
Brilliancepower:
Can ECOMOG soldiers be allowed to wipe out M23 and arrest Kagame? Does AU have a military force to stop this bullshit? Kagame is a rebel!
Ecomog is just for West Africa
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by foleskay(m): 3:19pm On Jan 30, 2025
Omoawoke:
Africans killing Africans
Europeans too are killing themselves. Same as in Asia. This life is about war and survival
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by nedekid: 3:21pm On Jan 30, 2025
Mynd44:
Those that know Kagame already know who and what he is.

But I hope he keeps running his fingers and mouth at South Africa sha.

He will soon understand that the Rwandan Defence Force is a little more equipped that the South African Police when SA decides to man up and act.

Kagame should also know Nigeria is watching and waiting for an AU pronouncement before his glass house gets broken
You think Rwanda is acting on its own? It is like oshodi under bridge back in the day where one small young area boy will call you to come and then optain you, because the actual alayes are behind smoking weed.
Israel, cia etc are likely behind kigame giving him morale. They want to messup SA. Don't forget the criticism of SA against Israels war on gaza also the dragging of it's leaders to the ICC.
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by Omoawoke(m): 3:22pm On Jan 30, 2025
foleskay:
Europeans too are killing themselves. Same as in Asia. This life is about war and survival
Everybody want to rip off Africans, Africans are the bottom of the food chain, the least we can do is unite…
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by foleskay(m): 3:28pm On Jan 30, 2025
Omoawoke:
Everybody want to rip off Africans, Africans are the bottom of the food chain, the least we can do is unite…
No body get Africa time anymore. Even our former colonialists no send us again.

They've moved past our resources. They re now in technological age. The age of space exploration and artificial intelligence. Dey play
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by SmartyPants(m): 3:29pm On Jan 30, 2025
Xisnin:
Countries rules of engagement and motivations are quite different based on the type of conflict.
Israeli troops harassed French peace keepers in Lebanon, that doesn't mean Israel can
wage a direct war against a fully motivated France.

Nigeria army got routed by Boko haram very close to the 2014 election, many soldiers ended up fleeing the war.
Until the SA mercenaries arrived to drive Shekau boys back and restore NA confidence in the fight.
Does that mean Nigeria is no match for South Africa should the two engage in direct conflict?

The Tigrays, who were very professional with years of fighting experience compared to the ill-motivated and unprofessional Ethiopian army were very close to overrunning Ethiopia's capital in the recent civil war but they end up losing.

The point is you cannot use a country's record in unconventional war to judge its conventional capabilities.
They require very different skill set.
You are mixing up all sorts of issues. And you should take careful note of the various factors I highlighted. I said Rwanda has a more professional army, but I also pointed out that the theatre of war will be in Rwanda's backyard. If you analyze logically, you will see that all the issues you attempted to raise favor Rwanda.

1. Countries have different motivations and rules of engagement. Are you telling me the South Africans will have a greater motivation over a war in another region than Rwandans who share ethnic ties with M23?

2. False equivocation of South African mercenaries with SANDF. The South African mercenaries who came to help Nigeria are largely the remnants of former apartheid military unites from South Africa and Rhodesia. These are professional, battle-hardened solders who were considered among the best in the world. Were Nigeria to fight against an army of such soldiers, we would certainly lose.

This is the complete opposite to the modern day SANDF which is a force lacks any sort of military history and tradition.

3. The Tigrayan failure. Logistics and capability to sustain operations matter. In military strategy, it is commonly said troops must never advance faster than supply. What does this mean? Food, fuel, arms and ammunition must be readily available at the front line otherwise, the troops will be rendered completely ineffective. That is exactly why the Tigrayans failed once they advanced too far. What does this further mean? It means that the force that is fighting closer to home and closer to its supply lines has a massive advantage. Who do you think that would favour in this hypothetical conflict?

4. Success in unconventional warfare is not an indicator of success in conventional warfare. When the comparison is between a battle-hardened army like Rwanda's and a comparatively amateur force like the SANDF, of course it is a major factor. In every field, there is a huge difference between theory and practicals, and most of the SANDF have never heard a short fired in a real conflict before. This means the Rwandans will go into such a conflict much better prepared mentally which can make all the difference.




And by the way, you still haven't answer my question: What is this capability of the SANDF that you speak of?
Re: Rwanda Ready For Confrontation With South Africa - Kagame by MasterTeeUSA: 3:29pm On Jan 30, 2025
Rwanda is the closest to this conflict. South Africa...I am not sure what their business is in the conflict given the proximity. On the other hand, the tiny Rwanda needs to be careful before it is maxed out by South Africa. Someone should send the Rwanda President the Map of Africa.






God1000:
https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/rwanda-ready-for-confrontation-with-south-africa-kagame/?

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