₦airaland Forum

iamoyindamola:
Awon werey eda
Na by force to bring sharia, we are Yoruba before becoming muslim

[color=royalblue]Is Sharia not a Muslim thing?[/color]

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Is Sharia not a Muslim thing?[/color]

It's not compulsory especially nation like ours
Abi is Nigeria a Muslim nation

Theflint1:
True, Nigerian universities are becoming what primary and secondary schools have been for the longest, wey na the poor of society dey attend.

Na the same thing happen to primary and secondary school, the moment private people entered the business, Na only poor people dey go public school

If you see the missionary schools that people in our parent Generation went to and the caliber of people who are going there now that is if the school exist. Schools like Igbobi, Loyola, St Gregory, GCI Ibadan are almost like a breeding ground for thugs and agberos nowadays

iamoyindamola:
It's not compulsory especially nation like ours
Abi is Nigeria a Muslim nation

[color=royalblue]At this point, I don't know what Nigeria is

But we can both agree that the SW has a large concentration of Muslims...

If the Muslims there want Sharia, why shouldn't it work?[/color]

Sweden getting their ass bombed,Bleep weak European countries

izzou:
[color=royalblue]At this point, I don't know what Nigeria is

But we can both agree that the SW has a large concentration of Muslims...

If the Muslims there want Sharia, why shouldn't it work?[/color]

That is it
No one wants the shari'a, they are trying to shove it off our ass, they met serious resistance in ekiti and I don't even think Muslims are more than Christians in SW
They have tried oyo olule
Ekiti now olule

iamoyindamola:
Awon werey eda
Na by force to bring sharia, we are Yoruba before becoming muslim

Oga Sir. I beg to disagree with the bolded. I might be wrong but we are muslim first before tribe or nation or any basis of division. It is islamic decrees we consider first before culture. We practice culture as long as it has no conflict with islamic decree.

islamics:
Oga Sir. I beg to disagree with the bolded. I might be wrong but we are muslim first before tribe or nation or any basis of division. It is islamic decrees we consider first before culture. We practice culture as long as it has no conflict with islamic decree.

Lol
Religion was extracted from culture
Culture is the way of live, your belief is also part of your culture
So why will you want to carry a sub of culture ahead of culture

Dem don catch sodik for illegal parking

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAEkwO0Sxh3/?igsh=dzR6enp4dmp3NWU0

raumdeuter:
Dem don catch sodik for illegal parking

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAEkwO0Sxh3/?igsh=dzR6enp4dmp3NWU0

🤣🤣
I go use motor break their legs

raumdeuter:
Dem don catch sodik for illegal parking

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAEkwO0Sxh3/?igsh=dzR6enp4dmp3NWU0

[color=royalblue]Baba hear $500, e declare "I'm a bottom"

This, to me, is how pranks should be; funny, silly and harmless

Not the one someone will just start running and everybody go dey run.[/color]

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Baba hear $500, e declare "I'm a bottom"

This, to me, is how pranks should be; funny, silly and harmless

Not the one someone will just start running and everybody go dey run.[/color]

I lost it when they asked him what’s your favorite gay sound 🤣🤣🤣

iamoyindamola:
Lol
Religion was extracted from culture
Culture is the way of live, your belief is also part of your culture
So why will you want to carry a sub of culture ahead of culture

Sir, I think there is a mixup in understanding.
If you say Religion was extracted from culture, which culture is it? At least, we know Islam as a religion came and abolish some culture of the Jahiliyyah period. For instance, we hear abi na read say some culture allow a man to sleep with a woman so as to test her fertility about child birth before marriage but you would agree with me that Islam no support that.

Culture is the way we live; confirm. But Islam also came with the way we live ai.

Belief can be refered to as Aqeedah and belief is not culture. For instance, your belief in the article of faith na part of Aqeedah or your belief about life after death or barzakh are all part of Aqeedah.

Culture na action while belief are thought.

iamoyindamola:
Lol
Religion was extracted from culture
Culture is the way of live, your belief is also part of your culture
So why will you want to carry a sub of culture ahead of culture

I wish I could like this 1 million times .

Oil Dey ur head 👌

islamics:
Sir, I think there is a mixup in understanding.
If you say Religion was extracted from culture, which culture is it? At least, we know Islam as a religion came and abolish some culture of the Jahiliyyah period. For instance, we hear abi na read say some culture allow a man to sleep with a woman so as to test her fertility about child birth before marriage but you would agree with me that Islam no support that.

Culture is the way we live; confirm. But Islam also came with the way we live ai.

Belief can be refered to as Aqeedah and belief is not culture. For instance, your belief in the article of faith na part of Aqeedah or your belief about life after death or barzakh are all part of Aqeedah.

Culture na action while belief are thought.

I think you are taking it too deep culture is the way we live and evolve, how we dress, our name, how we communicate and pray are all under culture
Let’s make it easier, you need an identity to be recognized that identity is your culture
If you see a white man you can’t say if he’s a Muslim or not, but the first thing you are seeing is a white man
That’s his cultural race, tribe etc it’s when you go further you get his name that’s another culture, his dressing another culture before you think of his religion you must have identified him
Another example, my name is sodeeq you can’t just conclude I am a Muslim, the name is an Arabic word and not all Arabs are Muslim
I hope this change your mind tribe comes first before religion, I would have used Stone Age man as another example

Ballzproblem2:
Sweden getting their ass bombed,Bleep weak European countries

Them don collect visitor. Let them keep practicing appeasement like Neville Chamberlain did. By the time e go sup fully. It will be too late

iamoyindamola:
Lol
Religion was extracted from culture
Culture is the way of live, your belief is also part of your culture
So why will you want to carry a sub of culture ahead of culture

Abi. What if you now change religion?

Even the religion Nigerians carry for head is by product of where they were born. If they were born in Japan they will be Shinto, in China they will be in one Shaolin temple.

I'm one that believes in a higher power at the very minimum but the way Nigerians go about this religion business that is imported is very annoying

A40:
Them don collect visitor. Let them keep practicing appeasement like Neville Chamberlain did. By the time e go sup fully. It will be too late

putting them in prayers that they wake up.

Tinubu or his useless supporters no dey use cbgb,why you come use cng? Na you set yourself up.

A40:
Abi. What if you now change religion?

Even the religion Nigerians carry for head is by product of where they were born. If they were born in Japan they will be Shinto, in China they will be in one Shaolin temple.

I'm one that believes in a higher power at the very minimum but the way Nigerians go about this religion business that is imported is very annoying

Exactly
I use to tell people if I was raised in ifa worshipping house I won't have any business with other religions
I also believe in live and let others live, you can't be forcing or judge people in there choices

islamics:
Sir, I think there is a mixup in understanding.
If you say Religion was extracted from culture, which culture is it? At least, we know Islam as a religion came and abolish some culture of the Jahiliyyah period. For instance, we hear abi na read say some culture allow a man to sleep with a woman so as to test her fertility about child birth before marriage but you would agree with me that Islam no support that.

Culture is the way we live; confirm. But Islam also came with the way we live ai.

Belief can be refered to as Aqeedah and belief is not culture. For instance, your belief in the article of faith na part of Aqeedah or your belief about life after death or barzakh are all part of Aqeedah.

Culture na action while belief are thought.

[color=royalblue]Which is more feasible for a person to change?

Religion or Culture?[/color]

I get something to talk about this sharia in the south west , It may not sit down well with a whole lot of people but I go still talk am for posterity purpose .

It’s a lengthy read tho, but it is my personal opinion and it is how I feel about everything happening all at once .

I will try to make it brief as much as I can.

[color=royalblue]Please who knows how much JAMB form is currently?[/color]

BlueRayDick:
I get something to talk about this sharia in the south west , It may not sit down well with a whole lot of people but I go still talk am for posterity purpose .

It’s a lengthy read tho, but it is my personal opinion and it is how I feel about everything happening all at once .

I will try to make it brief as much as I can.

Abeg no offend me o !!!

BlueRayDick:
I get something to talk about this sharia in the south west , It may not sit down well with a whole lot of people but I go still talk am for posterity purpose .

It’s a lengthy read tho, but it is my personal opinion and it is how I feel about everything happening all at once .

I will try to make it brief as much as I can.

i have been saying for months that there is a mass migratio of northerners down south, fleeing from the outcomes of their politics and decisions to a more liberal south

and just s is the case with muslim conservative refugees everywhere - once they are settled in, they want to remake the place they now reside into the shape of the place they fled from.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Please who knows how much JAMB form is currently?[/color]

5k

Bro is asking if he should confront her. Wetin man do man .

raumdeuter:
Na the same thing happen to primary and secondary school, the moment private people entered the business, Na only poor people dey go public school

If you see the missionary schools that people in our parent Generation went to and the caliber of people who are going there now that is if the school exist. Schools like Igbobi, Loyola, St Gregory, GCI Ibadan are almost like a breeding ground for thugs and agberos nowadays

Greg boys and Great Patricians now sagging their trousers

Ihebu4chelsea:
5k

[color=Royalblue] Really?

I just see 8,200 for Newspaper [/color]

HISTORICAL CONTEXT TO ISLAM IN YORUBA LAND

Let me start by saying that prior to Nigeria's independence in 1960, there were 3 major religions that held sway in Yoruba land(The modern day southwest which includes Lagos State) namely; African Traditional Religion(ATR), Christianity and Islam. Long before Usman Danfodio fought the Jihad that led to introduction of Islam to Hausa land in the 19th Centuries, historical records show that Islam has long been in Yoruba land as far back as the 14th Century.

Islam got into Yoruba land through trade with Malians who were predominantly Muslims already at the height of the Malian empire. This is why in Yoruba land Islam is referred to as "esin imale" (which means religion of the Malians). There's an historical account that claims that Sango(one of the Alaafin of the old Oyo empire) learnt about Islam long before he became an Alaafin and was even one of the people that supported growth of Islam in Yoruba land despite be an adherent of the ATR and his mystical powers. It was said that he donated towards the construction of the first mosque in old Oyo Empire.


RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE IN YORUBA LAND

Having set the historical context as to how Islam came to being in Yoruba land, it is important to note that Muslims, Christians and ATR worshippers over time have found a way to live together amongst themselves over time . It is normal for humans to have disputes amongst themselves, it is normal for humans to cross some lines when dealing with fellow humans who may seem not to be following the same path or see things from the same viewpoint, but nonetheless religion has not been the reason for any of the wars recorded in the Yoruba history up till this moment. The Yorubas may fight over land, fight over who gets royalty ,fight over superiority of the king of a town over the king of another town, etc; but not about what religion Mr. A and what Mr B practices nor about what religion town A practices and what what town Z practices. This in fact shows how religious tolerance is not just a myth in Yoruba land but a reality.

MODERN DAY PRACTISE OF ISLAM IN YORUBA LAND AND EXTREMISM.

Growing up in Yoruba land whether you are a Christian, ATR, atheist , or non Muslim in general, almost everyone is surrounded by Muslims whom we've now grown to know to be liberal Muslims. i.e. people who just want to practice their Islam, get along with their neighbors , sort whatever issue they have with anybody without declaring any Fatwa and respect the tradition and customs of the land. This particular set of Muslims comprise a vast majority of Muslims in Yoruba land . They have no issue with their Christian neighbor looking after their kids in their absence, they have issue with an Isese worshipper doing their festival provided they don't forbid him from observing his 5 times daily prayers and they do not deliberately set out to provoke adherents of other religions and non religious people alike.

While the aforementioned people abound in numbers in Yoruba land, there seem to a growing number of extremists who have been springing up over the years. These set of Muslims do not believe in the principle of "Live and let live" , they would leave their space and delibrately set out to provoke non adherents of their own version of Islam.My dad told me about "ajagbemokeferi" , the spirited Muslim crusader who delibrately set out to provoke ATR worshippers and always set up his Islamic lectures on the date of ATR worshippers' festivals in the 1950's in Lagos . At the end , he was murdered by ATR wrshippers who felt they've had enough from him. The Liberal Muslims are not spared when these set of extremists do their thing. One of them recently claimed " An Imam in Yoruba land is higher than Ooni of Ife or any other traditional ruler in Yoruba Land" . While in school we came across quite a handful of them with their brand of Islam deliberately set out to provoke an angry reach from you a non Muslim. Some of the things they preach which attacks the fibre of the Omoluabi culture Yorubas are known for is for example, they believe "a child should not prostrate for his parents because ur parents are not God ", "A groom should not prostrate to the bride's family at his wedding ceremony as it is expected in Yoruba culture. Why? Because they are also not his God". These and many more they have been propagating which is even shocking to their fellow Muslims who are equally Yorubas. I personally know quite a handful of them whom their family have almost disowned because they just can't seem to place where exactly this their extremism is coming from.

THE CALL FOR SHARIA IN YORUBA LAND/SOUTH WEST

It must be said without mincing words that for a while now, THE SOUTHWEST/YORUBA LAND HAS BEEN SITTING ON A KEG OF GUN POWDER which may sooner or later blow up in our faces. The aforementioned extremists have been bidding their time and for some reason they seem to believe the success of the Muslim/Muslim ticket of the APC at the General Elections in 2023 is a signal for them to come to the fore and bare their fangs. They seem to believe that it is either now or never for them to come all out and turn Yoruba Land to what Hausa land has become, to turn Yoruba Land to what became of Ilorin where the ATR worshippers are getting their rights trampled upon by the extremist Muslims who have every machinery of the state at their disposal. It is no surprise that the Sultan of Sokoto and some northern voices on the social media very much interested in this call for Sharia in Yoruba land even when those of us from the South west are not meddling in their Sharia system in the North.

As for those saying Sharia is not binding on non-Muslims, everyone who has been to the northern states where they have Sharia system operational knows that cannot be farther from the truth. Thank God for NYSC, some of us saw Sharia in its full glory and it is not what anybody desires to be replicated in Yoruba land except for the few Muslim extremists in Yoruba Land.

Yoruba Land is a secular nation where everyone is allowed to practice their religion or irreligion (as the case may be ) , without having to create any special adjudication panel/court system. Whatever anybody may claim they need a sharia panel/court for, it is well provided for under respective state's customary laws and civil/criminal laws. The South west is not a "one-majority-religion" state and no religion should be allowed to dominate another. Anybody that wants Sharia should go to where Sharia is being practiced and enjoy the goodies that comes with it.