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Absolutely not. Christians would like to believe that it is but Christianity introduced a lot of concepts which are certainly not a moral improvement over Judaism, such as:

-Babies are not born innocent
-How you treat others is secondary to faith (less so with Catholics)
-Responsibility for what you do wrong can be attributed to Satan rather than being personal
-You need an intermediary to talk to God
-God can forgive you for what you do to others even if you do nothing to make it right
-Life is an audition for death (afterlife) rather than the gift Jews believe it is
-You have to belong to my religion to get into Heaven rather than it being determined by how good a person you are (again, less true of Catholics than other denominations). Why should I think that the primary criterion to getting into Heaven going from “you have to be good to others” to “you have to know the bouncer to get into the club” represents religious completion or a moral improvement at all?
-You need to be saved by definition. You are intrinsically guilty before you even start.
-Salvation comes from a human sacrifice, an idea that is an abomination to God.
-Obedience is way more important than questioning. Questioning is absolutely central to Judaism; in fact, it’s in the name: Israel means “God wrestler” or “wrestles with God.”

When we raise children we aren’t ultimately interested in raising robots, we’re interested in lighting a moral pilot light such that they grasp and internalize the morality of criteria for making decisions. God is also a parent and has the same task.
No thank you. I’ll remain a Jew. Judaism makes more sense to me, and anything that changes so much that is fundamentally moral about Judaism is not Judaism 2.0.
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Judaism is itself a complete scam that was directly disavowed by YHWH, the God of Israel, so it doesn't matter whatever collaborations may exist between all of these scams. 🙄🙄🙄

In Christianity you follow Christ, in Judaism you follow laws. In Christianity you allow Christ into your heart and that Spirit automatically directs you. In Judaism you do it by your own.power. Well, we've seen where it led Jews - they've disappeared!

CanadaOrBust:
In Christianity you follow Christ, in Judaism you follow laws. In Christianity you allow Christ into your heart and that Spirit automatically directs you. In Judaism you do it by your own.power. Well, we've seen where it led Jews - they've disappeared!

You surely have a point!

MaxInDHouse:
You surely have a point!

Thanks.
Different if those Israelites were dominating everywhere today - instead they've disappeared!

CanadaOrBust:
In Christianity you follow Christ, in Judaism you follow laws. In Christianity you allow Christ into your heart and that Spirit automatically directs you. In Judaism you do it by your own.power. Well, we've seen where it led Jews - they've disappeared!

^^^ Comments like this are poignant exemplars of the sort of theological triumphalism that gives most religions the bad rep they gets with critics.

It's funny though that you seem to think having an invisible friend guiding your actions is infinitely more effective than developing a healthy capacity for actual self-reflection and personal responsibility for your actions. No wonder most Christians enjoy nibbling at the specks in other people's eyes, but forget the massive tree trunk lodged in theirs, but oh well, what do I know, hmm?

TheDevilsBride:
^^^ Comments like this are poignant exemplars of the sort of theological triumphalism that gives most religions the bad rep they gets with critics.

It's funny though that you seem to think having an invisible friend guiding your actions is infinitely more effective than developing a healthy capacity for actual self-reflection and personal responsibility for your actions. No wonder most Christians enjoy nibbling at the specks in other people's eyes, but forget the massive tree trunk lodged in theirs, but oh well, what do I know, hmm?

If life were not spiritual you may have a point. But life is SPITLRITUAL and it's been proven over and over, and people have testified endlessly that once they allowed that Spirit in, they no longer even have the desire for that alcohol or drugs or whatever it may be

CanadaOrBust:
Thanks.
Different if those Israelites were dominating everywhere today - instead they've disappeared!

That's exactly the warning God sounded through Moses:

I will raise up for them from the midst of their brothers a prophet like you, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him. Indeed, I will require an account from the man who will not listen to my words that he will speak in my name. Deuteronomy 18:18-19

The Jews rejected Jesus of Nazareth and ever since then their land continued to be invaded until they disappeared.
Today the people claiming Jews in Israel are not related to those who lived there in Jesus' day but people claiming Jews because they practice Judaism.

That's the cause of unending dispute that have lasted for centuries because the real inhabitants has been displaced now their descendants wants to reclaim their land!

MaxInDHouse:
That's exactly the warning God sounded through Moses:

I will raise up for them from the midst of their brothers a prophet like you, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him. Indeed, I will require an account from the man who will not listen to my words that he will speak in my name. Deuteronomy 18:18-19

The Jews rejected Jesus of Nazareth and ever since then their land continued to be invaded until they disappeared.
Today the people claiming Jews in Israel are not related to those who lived there in Jesus' day but people claiming Jews because they practice Judaism.

That's the cause of unending dispute that have lasted for centuries because the real inhabitants has been displaced now their descendants wants to reclaim their land!

Though the ten Northern tribes were sacked long before they had a chance to reject Jesus

CanadaOrBust:
Though the ten Northern tribes were sacked long before they had a chance to reject Jesus

YES!

The tribes of
Reuʹben
Simʹe·on
Isʹsa·char
Zebʹu·lun
Dan
Naphʹta·li
Gad
Ashʹer
(Ephraim and Manasseh) two sons of Joseph.
We're lost before Jesus' days.

Only

Judah and Benjamin with Levites remain in the south!

CanadaOrBust:
➜ If life were not spiritual you may have a point. But life is SPITLRITUAL and it's been proven over and over, and people have testified endlessly that once they allowed that Spirit in, they no longer even have the desire for that alcohol or drugs or whatever it may be

Life is spiritual for? Amoebas? Tadpoles? Trees?

CanadaOrBust:
➜Though the ten Northern tribes were sacked long before they had a chance to reject Jesus

Stop spewing this nonsense already! The Book instead tells of the 9 tribes of the nation of Israel being exiled to other nations by the Assyrians who conquered the nation of Israel. Then by the time of Jesus Christ, we learn that Joseph's descendants— the Samaritans— had found a home in the nation of Judah which was already occupied by 3 tribes — Levi, Judah, and Benjamin. These 4 tribes were then exiled from the nation of Judah when it was destroyed in that first century by the Romans. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Both religions abound with tales disconnected from the very records contained in the book and those confirmed by records.

Kobojunkie:
Stop spewing this nonsense already! The Book instead tells of the 9 tribes of the nation of Israel being exiled to other nations by the Assyrians who conquered the nation of Israel. Then by the time of Jesus Christ, we learn that Joseph's descendants— the Samaritans— had found a home in the nation of Judah which was already occupied by 3 tribes — Levi, Judah, and Benjamin. These 4 tribes were then exiled from the nation of Judah when it was destroyed in that first century by the Romans. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Both religions abound with tales disconnected from the very records contained in the book and those confirmed by records.

Are you saying this below is wrong then?

MaxInDHouse:
YES!

The tribes of
Reuʹben
Simʹe·on
Isʹsa·char
Zebʹu·lun
Dan
Naphʹta·li
Gad
Ashʹer
(Ephraim and Manasseh) two sons of Joseph.
We're lost before Jesus' days.

Only

Judah and Benjamin with Levites remain in the south!

Kobojunkie:
Life is spiritual for? Amoebas? Tadpoles? Trees?

Yes

CanadaOrBust:
Yes

Oh boy!

CanadaOrBust:
➜Are you saying this below is wrong then?

I am not the one who says it is wrong. Rather, the book you lot pretend you believe in proclaims it a lie!

Kobojunkie:
I am not the one who says it is wrong. Rather, the book you lot pretend you believe in proclaims it a lie!

How?

Kobojunkie:
Oh boy!

Just as EVERYTHING is energy, everything is spiritual

CanadaOrBust:
➜Just as EVERYTHING is energy, everything is spiritual

Everything is energy means everything is spiritual? Anyways, I am not in for religious gobbledegook!

CanadaOrBust:
➜How?

You didn't read what I had stated is instead contained in the book?

Kobojunkie:
Stop spewing this nonsense already! The Book instead tells of the 9 tribes of the nation of Israel being exiled to other nations by the Assyrians who conquered the nation of Israel. Then by the time of Jesus Christ, we learn that Joseph's descendants— the Samaritans— had found a home in the nation of Judah which was already occupied by 3 tribes — Levi, Judah, and Benjamin. These 4 tribes were then exiled from the nation of Judah when it was destroyed in that first century by the Romans. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Both religions abound with tales disconnected from the very records contained in the book and those confirmed by records.

Kobojunkie:
You didn't read what I had stated is instead contained in the book?

Where in the book?

Kobojunkie:
Everything is energy means everything is spiritual? Anyways, I am not in for religious gobbledegook!

Means everything has a basis in another dimension just like avatars

CanadaOrBust:
➜Where in the book?

After the original nation of Israel was divided up into two different nations — a northern Israel and a southern Judah— 9 tribes formed the northern nation while 3 tribes formed the southern nation of Judah. This much is revealed in 1 Kings after the death of Solomon.
In the book of Matthew and John, we are introduced to the fact that the Samaritans— descendants of Joseph— formerly a part of the northern nation of Israel, had a home in the nation of Judah making that 4 tribes living in Judah during the 1st century AD.

CanadaOrBust:
➜Means everything has a basis in another dimension just like avatars

Let me guess, you have absolutely no proof of what seems a neurotic claim, right?

Okay!

Kobojunkie:
After the original nation of Israel was divided up into two different nations — a northern Israel and a southern Judah— 9 tribes formed the northern nation while 3 tribes formed the southern nation of Judah. This much is revealed in 1 Kings after the death of Solomon.
In the book of Matthew and John, we are introduced to the fact that the Samaritans— descendants of Joseph— formerly a part of the northern nation of Israel, had a home in the nation of Judah making that 4 tribes living in Judah during the 1st century AD.

Not according to 1Kings 11: 29 and 1Kings 12;20-21

Kobojunkie:
Let me guess, you have absolutely no proof of what seems a neurotic claim, right?

I assume you agree the universe is some sort of simulation

Kobojunkie:
Judaism is itself a complete scam that was directly disavowed by YHWH, the God of Israel, so it doesn't matter whatever collaborations may exist between all of these scams. 🙄🙄🙄

Haba! You no be Christian again?

Kobojunkie:
After the original nation of Israel was divided up into two different nations — a northern Israel and a southern Judah— 9 tribes formed the northern nation while 3 tribes formed the southern nation of Judah. This much is revealed in 1 Kings after the death of Solomon.
In the book of Matthew and John, we are introduced to the fact that the Samaritans— descendants of Joseph— formerly a part of the northern nation of Israel, had a home in the nation of Judah making that 4 tribes living in Judah during the 1st century AD.

Judas1X, you must be such a stupíd entity. Jumping from one account to another. Thunder fire your left yansh there.

You must be such a stupíd junkie. When you are done, you will jump back to your other Judas1X account. Stupid fool.

Kobojunkie:
Everything is energy means everything is spiritual? Anyways, I am not in for religious gobbledegook!

Shut up this boy. How long will you use your foólishness to ascertain things of God? How stupid can you be jumping from one account to another?

It will never be well with your stupidity. Jump back to your Judas1X account, I am not done with your foolishness.

This platform won't contain your stupidity. I must expose you and your generation and you must die as an Atheist untimely.

When you're done, jump back to your other Judas1X account o fool.

CanadaOrBust:
Not according to 1Kings 11: 29 and 1Kings 12;20-21

Kobojunkie:
After the original nation of Israel was divided up into two different nations — a northern Israel and a southern Judah— 9 tribes formed the northern nation while 3 tribes formed the southern nation of Judah. This much is revealed in 1 Kings after the death of Solomon.

So where in 1 Kings did you see the above?

CanadaOrBust:
Not according to 1Kings 11: 29 and 1Kings 12;20-21

CanadaOrBust:
✓ So where in 1 Kings did you see the above?

What do those passages tell you? Let's start there.