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TheDevilsBride:
You do sound jaded, lol. But I get you, and fully empathize with you. Nonetheless, I'd simply argue that the impasse here might not necessarily lie with skeptics' inability to grasp your logic, but instead with the inherent complexity and subjectivity of existentialist questions in general, so you can't fault us for asking for proof all the time, lol.

I entirely agree, and dont get me wrong, I am a huge skeptic myself. Most think I am athiest but I am really agnostic. Give me a million atheists and skeptics over the religionists anyday anytime.

There is another life after death, and that is on an eternal scale.
There is more to this though… but based on if you're ready for it or not.

Death is just an illusion.
Life is all that exist..
We are spiritual beings having a human experience. Not the other way round. When we expire, we return to our default state, which is the spiritual state waiting for the next experience.
The main thing I want to say here, is that we picked everything ourselves. Our birthday, parents, level of life hardness, country, siblings etc. we picked everything ourselves, because we believe we can come out tops. But when we leave the spiritual realm for the physical...we forget everything. That is the game. So, the only thing we need to do is REMEMBER.

fuckJones:
i want to ask you another question, if you believe life after death, what of those people kill during the flooded, where are they now? in heaven or here on earth?

God is the judge, only he determines who goes to heaven

fuckJones:
i want to ask you another question, if you believe life after death, what of those people kill during the flooded, where are they now? in heaven or here on earth?

Their body has return to the earth. But the spirit dwelling within it, that gave it life has gone back home...or already reincarnated here on earth. Or gone to experience other part of the universe....it is really your choice.
The Egyptian believe there is some kind of judgement, where Annubis weighs your heart with a feather, to see the one that is lighter. If your hearth is lighter, you move on to a higher realm. If not, you come back here....you have to keep doing good to reduce your karma and dissolve the matrix...

LordReed:
Stop making excuses and give me the processes.

I have thought about it but it seems to me that no matter what you will still pencil everything down to the brain.

Anyways. If you are game, the next time you find yourself in a dream and are aware that it is a dream, do something definite in the dream, such as attempt to count your fingers or toes, or attempt to hold your hand or leg, or attempt to spell a word or repeat a number you know you will remember when awake. That will be a start. It's just a first step though, in a long journey.

sonmvayina:
Death is just an illusion.
Life is all that exist..
We are spiritual beings having a human experience. Not the other way round. When we expire, we return to our default state, which is the spiritual state waiting for the next experience.
The main thing I want to say here, is that we picked everything ourselves. Our birthday, parents, level of life hardness, country, siblings etc. we picked everything ourselves, because we believe we can come out tops. But when we leave the spiritual realm for the physical...we forget everything. That is the game. So, the only thing we need to do is REMEMBER.

The aspect of picking everything ourselves is what I doubt. Because there are some kinds of nasty experiences that no one would pick and yet are common.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
I have thought about it but it seems to me that no matter what you will still pencil everything down to the brain.

Anyways. If you are game, the next time you find yourself in a dream and are aware that it is a dream, do something definite in the dream, such as attempt to count your fingers or toes, or attempt to hold your hand or leg, or attempt to spell a word or repeat a number you know you will remember when awake. That will be a start. It's just a first step though, in a long journey.

That's a losers excuse.

I already told you I can lucid dream so how does that point to consciousness being nondependent on the brain and body?

LordReed:
That's a losers excuse.

I already told you I can lucid dream so how does that point to consciousness being nondependent on the brain and body?

I said its a start. Start doing those conscious things in your lucid dreams (be specific and intentional - keep what you want to do in your next lucid dream in mind ahead in your waking hours, then do it in the dream).

THEDEEPSIGHT:
The aspect of picking everything ourselves is what I doubt. Because there are some kinds of nasty experiences that no one would pick and yet are common.

They picked them all...
All they need to do is remember what they need to do to get out of it....the power is within us...

Kayberg:
There is another life after death, and that is on an eternal scale.
There is more to this though… but based on if you're ready for it or not.

the people that die during Noah flooding, where are their soul now?

Jokerman:
There is.

Humans need to understand that this physical body is like a cloth to their very existence.

If you die today, this physical body turns to dust or sand, while you keep living because you are created in God's image, so the spirit can't die.

After body death, if you spirit is clean by the washing of the blood of Jesus, you go be with God, but if you are not yet cleansed, whatever the nonsense you practiced whether Culture, Islam, Buddhism etc, you go away from God


And your spirit will not find it funny if you miss God's kingdom, it would be a loud "had I known"

But I know you will receive Jesus Christ today, and be free, and embrace His wonderful work on the cross for You and I.

Don't joke with your spirit being. Spirit cannot die. Only peace or damnation.

Choose peace please 🙏

my question is this Does our life on Earth have any impact on our afterlife experience?,

THEDEEPSIGHT:
How do you know you were non existent before birth. Is it not more accurate to say you have no memory of anything before birth?

What happens to our memories and personality after before birth or after death?

sonmvayina:
They picked them all...
All they need to do is remember what they need to do to get out of it....the power is within us...

With all due respect I think this is a careless belief system. It is also a belief system which is adopted to soothe your sense of justice because of the evil you see in the world. Addittionally it is actually a very callious, insensitive and disrecpectful belief system - especially to those who are at the receiving end of truly unimaginable suffering.

There are certain levels of suffering which are beyond what you can claim anyone "picked" or that all they need to do is "remember" and they will be extricated. There are people suffering from unimaginable diseases. One day, I say a man lying on the floor outside the mall naked. All his limbs were so badly twisted that they were crumpled behind his back in such a twisted mess that it was rather like looking like spagetthi. When people look upon that kind of suffering, it is so repugnanat that they must come up with an excuse for the universe. In Eastern spiritual thought, the excuse is Karma. That they have done something to deserve that. Please, if you have any loved one who, heaven forbid, experiences such, go ahead and tell them that they deserve it, or that they picked it, and you will understand why I say it is insensitive, callous and disrespectful.

In Western spiritual thought, they speak of original sin, redemption, heaven and hell. I guess I dont need to explain to you how unjust all that is and how nonsensical it is because I dont see you endorsing all that claptrap.

I dont need to go through the whole gammut of human suffering for you to get the point. But to use the Nazi concentration camps as an example will suffice. I dont know how familiar you are with what transpired in those camps. But if you are, you will not dare to say that any soul "picked" such experiences. The Karma people will argue that they "deserve" such experiences as a result of karma, but that too is insensitive. For me, there are two issues (notwithstanding that I like to believe that I accept Karma in general terms) - the two issues are -

1. No one knows it for a fact. Its just another explanation humans have thrown up for the seeming randomness of events in life, but more importantly -

2. I find it obnoxious to subject anyone to a punishment for something that they are not aware of. According to you and those who argue for Karma, we have "forgotten" or there is a "veil" over our mind, etc. This still does not cut it for me for two reasons again -

a. The theory that we have forgotten is another fantastical explanation we have thrown up for what we dont understand. Its pure imagination, there is no proof.

b. The suffering which a soul undergoes while having "forgotten" its crimes is obnoxious and repugnant. Even by earthly laws, we do not punish a lunatic or anyone who does not understand his crime. It is repugnant to put anyone through a punishment the crimes for which they dont know.

Jones4190:
What happens to our memories and personality after before birth or after death?

I have no idea. Perhaps after death our energies and memories form a type of cosmic food for a race of aliens who like to eat it, or form viagra for another race of aliens who like to masturbate, who knows?

THEDEEPSIGHT:
With all due respect I think this is a careless belief system. It is also a belief system which is adopted to soothe your sense of justice because of the evil you see in the world. Addittionally it is actually a very callious, insensitive and disrecpectful belief system - especially to those who are at the receiving end of truly unimaginable suffering.

There are certain levels of suffering which are beyond what you can claim anyone "picked" or that all they need to do is "remember" and they will be extricated. There are people suffering from unimaginable diseases. One day, I say a man lying on the floor outside the mall naked. All his limbs were so badly twisted that they were crumpled behind his back in such a twisted mess that it was rather like looking like spagetthi. When people look upon that kind of suffering, it is so repugnanat that they must come up with an excuse for the universe. In Eastern spiritual thought, the excuse is Karma. That they have done something to deserve that. Please, if you have any loved one who, heaven forbid, experiences such, go ahead and tell them that they deserve it, or that they picked it, and you will understand why I say it is insensitive, callous and disrespectful.

In Western spiritual thought, they speak of original sin, redemption, heaven and hell. I guess I dont need to explain to you how unjust all that is and how nonsensical it is because I dont see you endorsing all that claptrap.

I dont need to go through the whole gammut of human suffering for you to get the point. But to use the Nazi concentration camps as an example will suffice. I dont know how familiar you are with what transpired in those camps. But if you are, you will not dare to say that any soul "picked" such experiences. The Karma people will argue that they "deserve" such experiences as a result of karma, but that too is insensitive. For me, there are two issues (notwithstanding that I like to believe that I accept Karma in general terms) - the two issues are -

1. No one knows it for a fact. Its just another explanation humans have thrown up for the seeming randomness of events in life, but more importantly -

2. I find it obnoxious to subject anyone to a punishment for something that they are not aware of. According to you and those who argue for Karma, we have "forgotten" or there is a "veil" over our mind, etc. This still does not cut it for me for two reasons again -

a. The theory that we have forgotten is another fantastical explanation we have thrown up for what we dont understand. Its pure imagination, there is no proof.

b. The suffering which a soul undergoes while having "forgotten" its crimes is obnoxious and repugnant. Even by earthly laws, we do not punish a lunatic or anyone who does not understand his crime. It is repugnant to put anyone through a punishment the crimes for which they dont know.

They know...
They only have to remember
Karma is real.
The other option is being an ass, which do you choose?

Righteousness2:
Listen young Man!
No Matter Good , Nice or Religious you are! If you do not Have a Genuie relationship with JESUS CHRIST, you are Heading to Hell..

A Genuie relationship with JESUS CHRIST is the Ultimate. This is the Only thing that wil guarantee you ETERNAL LIFE in Heaven.

Good and bad people go to hell according to Ecclesiastics 9:10. Do you agree?

tctrills:
So many but let's start with one. Hebrews 11:13-16
Reminds us that we are pilgrims on the earth.

1 Peter 2:11 stresses the same

So before coming to the earth, how did we exist, and where did we exist?

THEDEEPSIGHT:
I said its a start. Start doing those conscious things in your lucid dreams (be specific and intentional - keep what you want to do in your next lucid dream in mind ahead in your waking hours, then do it in the dream).

Dude do you just not read what I write and like us going in circles? I already said I lucid dream. How does that show consciousness is not a function of body and brain?

Truthseeker10:
So before coming to the earth, how did we exist, and where did we exist?

Hope you realize that it's not God's intention to provide all answers now. But it is sufficient that we believe what has already been revealed that we are pilgrims and foreigners on this earth. And our existence did not begin here.

sonmvayina:
They know...
They only have to remember
Karma is real.
The other option is being an ass, which do you choose?

No problem. I wish you luck as you carry on your life telling each person you see in deep suffering that they deserve it or they chose it. Enjoy.

Truthseeker10:
So before coming to the earth, how did we exist, and where did we exist?

We were home...we came here to enjoy life.

Humans are spiritual beings having a human experience.

tctrills:
Hope you realize that it's not God's intention to provide all answers now. But it is sufficient that we believe what has already been revealed that we are pilgrims and foreigners on this earth. And our existence did not begin here.

How do you know God's intentions for heavens sake. A being that exists outside time and space, at the root of all reality, little you knows its mind right. You try.

LordReed:
Dude do you just not read what I write and like us going in circles? I already said I lucid dream. How does that show consciousness is not a function of body and brain?

so how are lying down in your bed and still running around in your dream??

sonmvayina:
We were home...we came here to enjoy life.

Humans are spiritual beings having a human experience.

"Enjoy? ? ?"
I don't know what planet you are living on but it's certainly not this dark Earth that I know.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
No problem. I wish you luck as you carry on your life telling each person you see in deep suffering that they deserve it or they chose it. Enjoy.

Physical life is temporal...

THEDEEPSIGHT:
"Enjoy? ? ?"
I don't know what planet you are living on but it's certainly not this dark Earth that I know.

That's what I came to do! I don't know about you.

sonmvayina:
That's what I came to do! I don't know about you.

Then you should keep it to yourself and not try to claim such applies to everyone.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
How do you know God's intentions for heavens sake. A being that exists outside time and space, at the root of all reality, little you knows its mind right. You try.

Read the scriptures and ask him. He is your Father and he wants to teach you.

sonmvayina:
Physical life is temporal...

That does not take away the reality of the pain suffered by those who ensured Nazi concentration camps, or parents who have children born with painful incurable diseases or paralyzed people, people with cancer, leprosy or those who suffer all manner of tragedies in this world.

THEDEEPSIGHT:
Then you should keep it to yourself and not try to claim such applies to everyone.

Why did they come?
They would have just continue sleeping with their ancestors...
But they came here,

My friend, the only purpose of life is to enjoy it..

tctrills:
Read the scriptures and ask him. He is your Father and he wants to teach you.

What scriptures. The Quoran? The Bhagavad Gita?