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In the first instance, Nigeria doesn't need an aid to solved her domestic problems.

GeneralPula:
Have you ever visited HIV patients before saying this?

Positive news like this purges them always ….

They are so quick to approve this one.
Trump has given them another avenue to loot.

EXOUSIAng:
Good.

Little by little, na USA influence on the rest of the world go dey wane. Because, these are the things that made USA have influence on many countries. Another example is her membership of WHO, USAID and other organisations.

treatise:
This is proactive of this government. Kudos!

No its not, proactive is doing it years ago, not after the axe has fallen.

alooooota

PresidObi:
Money don enter bush. Whenever I hear the government approve money for anything, we already know it's a settlement for one politician who will use it to win his part of the polling booths.

In the end, one single HIV positive person may not benefit from this money they are going to share.

So say an emergency lover of Nigeria.

This is one of the reasons, Nigerians won't allow anyone from that region to rule this country.

ZombieDredd:
No its not, proactive is doing it years ago, not after the axe has fallen.

The US would still continue the funding, but we are not 100% dependant on them.

Just an avenue to steal money.

They will steal the money l. A country without accountability

HydraFeeds:
Even if Trump reverse his decision,the best thing is for Nigeria to reject it ,that's the best way to remove western fangs from the system.

Reject it?
Countries are run with pragmatism and not emotional outbursts.

Money that they will loot. Has Trump not reversed the order?

xpressionx:
Very soon they will start looking for loan to cover the cost.

Mumu

Xisnin:
Reject it?
Countries are run with pragmatism and not emotional outbursts.

yes ,its pragmatic to reject greeks gift .

Fund they will are still share amongst themselves

HydraFeeds:
yes ,its pragmatic to reject greeks gift .

Explain how free HIV drugs for the 2 million people in Nigeria is greek gift.

Without these subsidies, the drugs will cost the government hundreds of
billions to trillions of Naira. This 4.8 billion is not even up to 1% of the funds needed.

It will on the paper, Nigeria is too corrupt for any institution to work on 10/100.

3.9 billion will be looted

bewisemasses:
Good for U. S. A. Bad for d world. Going for international trips begging for aids for us d giant of Africa is demeaning. Its a type of slavery but our leaders don't care as long as they live in stupendous wealth.
Only poor countries with no mineral resources shud be given foreign aid. Nigeria is rich in mineral resources but poor in sense

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PresidObi:
Money don enter bush. Whenever I hear the government approve money for anything, we already know it's a settlement for one politician who will use it to win his part of the polling booths.

In the end, one single HIV positive person may not benefit from this money they are going to share.

Funny 🤣🤣

Xisnin:
Explain how free HIV drugs for the 2 million people in Nigeria is greek gift.

Without these subsidies, the drugs will cost the government hundreds of
billions to trillions of Naira. This 4.8 billion is not even up to 1% of the funds needed.

For the record ,it's just a fraction of it the USAID is bearing like they bear just 17% in publicly available data in SA .

Secondly,there are several political and economic policies that US always try to arm twist Nigerian government or they cut aids like we've just witnessed in SA because SA is trying to pass land reforms and submit a case against Israel in ICC that doesn't favour the US .

Thirdly ,foreign spy agencies like CIA always mix with aid workers to penetrate deeper system in subterfuge .

We've just witnessed how these aids providing countries call the aid receivers beggars and other insulting names . Lastly, Nigeria should look inward and solve her problems by herself,that's the true path to success . The same Nigeria that budgets 4bn+ today will be able to up it next time .

they just gave these people another avenue to steal money.

Xisnin:
Explain how free HIV drugs for the 2 million people in Nigeria is greek gift.

Without these subsidies, the drugs will cost the government hundreds of
billions to trillions of Naira. This 4.8 billion is not even up to 1% of the funds needed.

you guys just love to throw numbers anyhow on this forum

ZombieDredd:
No its not, proactive is doing it years ago, not after the axe has fallen.

Nobody preempted Elon's axe on USAID; maybe you'd have preferred setting up a committee which would take months before its report would be submitted.

miketayo:
you guys just love to throw numbers anyhow on this forum

I supposed you are one of those confused by numbers.
About 2 million people are living with HIV in Nigeria, if you have a different source,
you should have shared it instead of your empty response.

HydraFeeds:
For the record ,it's just a fraction of it the USAID is bearing like they bear just 17% in publicly available data in SA .

We are talking about Nigeria here.
And where did you get 17% from?

Secondly,there are several political and economic policies that US always try to arm twist Nigerian government or they cut aids like we've just witnessed in SA because SA is trying to pass land reforms and submit a case against Israel in ICC that doesn't favour the US .

Before Trump, major reasons for threat to aids, not health ones, are either military coup,
suppression of opposition, instigation of civil war or invasion of foreign country such as recent Rwanda moves.
Again, you are bringing in SA, even though the topic is exclusively about Nigeria.
BTW, SA has no case at the ICC. The ICJ case which I believe you mixed up is no longer a SA affair,
several countries have already joined none of which Trump has said anything about them.

Thirdly ,foreign spy agencies like CIA always mix with aid workers to penetrate deeper system in subterfuge .

What does the bold even means?
You watched too many movies.
99.99% of actual spies are local. So no mixing needed.
It will be idiotic to send a white man to a black nation as an on the ground asset.
If you are referring to the co-ordinators, those ones are very few and don't
need no aids organization whose staff are again local. They already have
official roles as embassy staff.

Valuable assets are not foreigners, they are local highly placed and powerful people.
For example, our current president who is neither white nor ever an aid worker or recipient feature in wikileaks
expose as supplying information to the Americans for example.

We've just witnessed how these aids providing countries call the aid receivers beggars and other insulting names .

How is this relevant to the usefulness of the aids?

Lastly, Nigeria should look inward and solve her problems by herself,that's the true path to success . The same Nigeria that budgets 4bn+ today will be able to up it next time .

There is no looking inward for a poor country by rejecting foreign aid.
It will be the most foolish decision ever.

You prefer a quarter to half of the Nigerian budget for roads to go towards treating HIV patients
just to pretend to be rich?
We could look inward and raise tax 300% to make up for the rejected aids.

Why did you think SA which has a better economy than Nigeria
and which appears you very rate high did not outrightly reject the aids and look inward?

How about we return all the $6 billion spent in Nigeria since 1999, how about we go back to 1960
when USAIDS began and pay everything back so we can pat ourselves on the back that we are
no longer beggars.

Xisnin:
I supposed you are one of those confused by numbers.
About 2 million people are living with HIV in Nigeria, if you have a different source,
you should have shared it instead of your empty response.

we both know that's not the number I was referring to.

How can Nigeria as a country make progress ? Upon all the pressing needs in Nigeria - unemployment, hunger , power failure, banditry etc that have not been attended to, it's this hiv issue that US said of withdrawing aids just yesterday that they have made provision already because it's a means to loot the nation's treasury.

Is this move not encouraging carelessness and promiscuity ?

Please Nigerian leaders wake up and put your perspectives right .

One useless person will soon remove HIV subsidy.

Thank you Mr President. Follow through to avoid looting

Xisnin:
We are talking about Nigeria here.
And where did you get 17% from?


Before Trump, major reasons for threat to aids, not health ones, are either military coup,
suppression of opposition, instigation of civil war or invasion of foreign country such as recent Rwanda moves.
Again, you are bringing in SA, even though the topic is exclusively about Nigeria.
BTW, SA has no case at the ICC. The ICJ case which I believe you mixed up is no longer a SA affair,
several countries have already joined none of which Trump has said anything about them.



What does the bold even means?
You watched too many movies.
99.99% of actual spies are local. So no mixing needed.
It will be idiotic to send a white man to a black nation as an on the ground asset.
If you are referring to the co-ordinators, those ones are very few and don't
need no aids organization whose staff are again local. They already have
official roles as embassy staff.

Valuable assets are not foreigners, they are local highly placed and powerful people.
For example, our current president who is neither white nor ever an aid worker or recipient feature in wikileaks
expose as supplying information to the Americans for example.


How is this relevant to the usefulness of the aids?



There is no looking inward for a poor country by rejecting foreign aid.
It will be the most foolish decision ever.

You prefer a quarter to half of the Nigerian budget for roads to go towards treating HIV patients
just to pretend to be rich?
We could look inward and raise tax 300% to make up for the rejected aids.

Why did you think SA which has a better economy than Nigeria
and which appears you very rate high did not outrightly reject the aids and look inward?

How about we return all the $6 billion spent in Nigeria since 1999, how about we go back to 1960
when USAIDS began and pay everything back so we can pat ourselves on the back that we are
no longer beggars.

from publicly available data ,USAID bears 80% of the cost in Nigeria. If Nigeria has not depended on foreign funds before now ,I'm sure the commitment will be more than that .

So it's because there's coup in SA that Trump wants to cut funding for aids in SA ? Not that I'm supporting coup or war but each country has right to choose their leaders ,whether military, monarchy, theocracy or democracy and USA is not police of the world . Not to mention that USA is the number one coup plotter and warmonger in the whole world .

Therefore ,threatening a foreign government with aid is a way of arm twisting them to US will . We've seen what coupist and military dictator of Burkina Faso is doing to imperialist France as instance of France granting aid to BF but taking bulkof their gold .

You must be joking about the activities of spies ,the least person you could think of will be your spy ,those in offices or embassies are mostly bureaucrats . This is not films ,check the news about aid workers that were arrested for spy in Yemen and Greece ,or the aid workers Israel claims they're working for Hamas . Aid workers have access to the innermost region and it's even through mostly disguise of religion that the British penetrated Nigeria and ursurped the then government.

Calling Nigeria poor is another form of mental conditioning , Nigeria is poor but her politicians could embezzle $2bn ,#50bn,#200bn etc or budget billions of naira for motorcade and housing or other miscellaneous but the country is still standing?

It's not that USA is rich or have surplus else they won't be in over 30 trillion dollars debt ,USA is just like a man that appears rich but he's piling up debt to maintain a status .

When I checked US mission site ,they said they "invested" $6bn so far which means it's business to them cos the idea of any form of investment is gain . Who knows the damage US has done to our system since then ?

Now ,I'm not trying to underrate the effort of USAID in Nigeria but I believe Nigeria don't need it .

HydraFeeds:
Good for the country ,glad Shettima shares the same sentiment that he doesn't believe in AID . AID is like Trojan horse.



Even if Trump reverse his decision,the best thing is for Nigeria to reject it ,that's the best way to remove western fangs from the system.

Trump actually wants us to govern ourselves.