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Truthseeker10:
So when people saw Jesus, they did not see God? Yes or no?

What bears the name Jesus, His body or His spirit?

When canal people see Jesus, they can't see God. When spiritual people see Jesus, they can see God.

Both His Spirit and Body bear Jesus which means Yahweh is Salvation.

GothamCities:
When canal people see Jesus, they can't see God. When spiritual peace see Jesus, they can see God.

John 1:18 says no man has seen God at any time. So who are these spiritual people that saw God?

King James Bible
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Truthseeker10:
John 1:18 says no man has seen God at any time. So who are these spiritual people that saw God?

King James Bible
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Before Jesus came, no man has seen God. That's what Jesus was saying.

He now added that He has come to reveal Him.

Did He say no man can and will ever see God? He did no man has ever seen God but I have come to.reveal Him.

You dwelt only on the first sentence instead of looking at the whole statement.

John 1:18
N"o one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known."

Jesus came to make God known. God came through Jesus to make Himself known.

GothamCities:
Before Jesus came, no man has seen God. That's what Jesus was saying.

He now added that He has come to reveal Him.

Did He say no man can and will ever see God? He did no man has ever seen God but I have come to.reveal Him.

You dwelt only on the first sentence instead of looking at the whole statement.

John 1:18
N"o one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known."

Jesus came to make God known. God came through Jesus to make Himself known.

So if God is the Father, son and holy spirit simultaneously, did People see the The father, son and holy spirit when Jesus showed them God?

Truthseeker10:
So if God is the Father, son and holy spirit simultaneously, did People see the The father, son and holy spirit when Jesus showed them God?

You don't see God with your physical eyes.

When Jesus showed me God, I see The Father Son and the Holy Spirit simultaneously .

GothamCities:
You don't see God with your physical eyes.

When Jesus showed me God, I see The Father Son and the Holy Spirit simultaneously .

🤣🤣🤣🤣 where did you meet Jesus?

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣🤣 where did you meet Jesus?

He's with me right now.

Jesus is not a physical Being.

GothamCities:
He's with me right now.

Jesus is not a physical Being.

Wow so Jesus is with you and not in heaven?🤣🤣🤣🤣

So Jesus does not have a physical body anymore?

Jesus said, I and my Father are one. The ones is in essence. Not just unity.

GothamCities:
Gohf

This is the original Greek of John 1:18

The original Greek text of John 1:18 is:

Θεὸν οὐδεὶς ἑώρακεν πώποτε· ὁ μονογενὴς υἱός, ὁ ὢν εἰς τὸν κόλπον τοῦ πατρός, ἐκεῖνος ἐξηγήσατο.

Transliterated, it reads:

Theon oudeis heōraken pōpote; ho monogenēs huios, ho ōn eis ton kolpon tou patros, ekeinos exēgēsato.

This verse directly in English:

"No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known."

Please do your own research.

So if God is father, son and holy spirit simultaneously, who is the God that no one has ever seen?

GothamCities:
Jesus said, I and my Father are one. The ones is in essence. Not just unity.

If Jesus and the father have the same essence which is God(father, son and holy spirit simultaneously), did anyone see God(Father son and holy spirit) when Jesus was on earth?

Truthseeker10:
So if God is father, son and holy spirit simultaneously, who is the God that no one has ever seen?

John said no one ever saw the God before Jesus came but Jesus has come to reveal Him. Your question does not tally. You're still dwelling on the first sentence. You're asking this question after Jesus has revealed God; your question is invalid.


No one has ever seen the Father, Son and Holy Spirit before the Revelation of Jesus Christ. Most of the people in Jesus' day didn't see Jesus either, otherwise they would have seen God.

Only those whose spiritual eyes were opened saw Jesus. And those who see Jesus, see God.

If those people in His days saw Him, they won't even crucify Him.

GothamCities:
John said no one ever saw the God before Jesus came but Jesus has come to reveal Him. Your question does not tally. You're still dwelling on the first sentence. You're asking this question after Jesus has revealed God; your question is invalid.


No one has ever seen the Father, Son and Holy Spirit before the Revelation of Jesus Christ. Most of the people in Jesus' day didn't see Jesus either, otherwise they would have seen God.

Only those whose spiritual eyes were opened saw Jesus. And those who see Jesus, see God.

If those people in His days saw Him, they won't even crucify Him.

So if the people that Saw Jesus in his days on earth saw God, did they see the Father, son and holy spirit simultaneously? If yes mention the people.

Truthseeker10:
If Jesus and the father have the same essence which is God(father, son and holy spirit simultaneously), did anyone see God(Father son and holy spirit) when Jesus was on earth?

Get it right my friend.

Jesus is not the physical man you saw on earth. The physical man was just a representation. A body for Jesus to walk on, on earth.

GothamCities:
Get it right my friend.

Jesus is not the physical man you saw on earth. The physical man was just a representation. A body for Jesus to walk on, on earth.

So the body was not Jesus?

GothamCities:
Get it right my friend.

Jesus is not the physical man you saw on earth. The physical man was just a representation. A body for Jesus to walk on, on earth.

So the body was not Jesus?

Truthseeker10:
So if the people that Saw Jesus in his days on earth saw God, did they see the Father, son and holy spirit simultaneously? If yes mention the people.

Everyone who saw God through Jesus saw the Father, Son and Holy Spirit simultaneously for all three are one.

One of them wrote:

"We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ." 1 John 1:3.

Truthseeker10:
So if God is father, son and holy spirit simultaneously, who is the God that no one has ever seen?

Please go and read the verse again.

GothamCities:
Everyone who saw God through Jesus saw the Father, Son and Holy Spirit simultaneously for all three are one.

One of them wrote:

"We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ." 1 John 1:3.

1 John 1:3 did not mention holy spirit. Can there be a God without the holy spirit?

Truthseeker10:
So the body was not Jesus?

Absolutely correct.

The real Jesus was the God within. Not the man without.

GothamCities:
Please go and read the verse again.

Who is the God that Jesus came to declare na? Is it the Father son and holy spirit simultaneously?

Truthseeker10:
1 John 1:3 did not mention holy spirit. Can there be a God without the holy spirit?

But the Father and the Son share the same Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and the Son.

GothamCities:
Absolutely correct.

The real Jesus was the God within. Not the man without.

Which one is fake Jesus? Are you saying that the God within was the father son and holy spirit simultaneously?

Truthseeker10:
Which one is fake Jesus?

You can tell us.

The real Truthseeker10 is the man within, not the man without who shall die.

GothamCities:
But the Father and the Son share the same Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and the Son.

Bible verse please.

GothamCities:
You can tell us.

The real Truthseeker10 is the man within, not the man without who shall die.

So when the real Jesus was on earth, the father Son and holy spirit were simultaneously on earth too?

Truthseeker10:
Bible verse please.

Would you understand?

John 14:26, 16:7.

"26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have told you.

7 But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you."

And also:

Galatians 4:6 (NIV)

"Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, 'Abba, Father!'"

There's only One Spirit. Not two. The one Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and the Son.

Truthseeker10:
So when the real Jesus was on earth, the father Son and holy spirit were simultaneously on earth too?

The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are everywhere.

GothamCities:
Would you understand?

John 14:26, 16:7.

"26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have told you.

7 But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you."

And also:

Galatians 4:6 (NIV)

"Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, 'Abba, Father!'"

There's only One Spirit. Not two. The one Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and the Son.

But you said when they saw Jesus, they saw the father son and holy spirit simultaneously. So why are you showing me scriptures where the holy spirit is being sent? Why the confusion?

GothamCities:
The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are everywhere.

🤣🤣🤣you mean that they are in my soakaway?

So before the real Jesus came to earth, the father son and holy spirit were on earth?

Truthseeker10:
But you said when they saw Jesus, they saw the father son and holy spirit simultaneously. So why are you showing me scriptures where the holy spirit is being sent? Why the confusion?

The purpose of the sending is for the Holy Spirit to dwell in us. Not seeing.

You see the Father and the Holy Spirit through the Son. This is different from receiving the indwelling Presence of the Holy Spirit.

GothamCities:
The purpose of the sending is for the Holy Spirit to dwell in us. Not seeing.

You see the Father and the Holy Spirit through the Son. This is different from receiving the indwelling Presence of the Holy Spirit.

In John 16:7, where did the real Jesus go to to send the holy spirit?