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Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by Racoon(op): 3:07pm On Feb 06, 2025
"Supersonic Jets are Making a Comeback. Here’s What that Means for Air Passengers."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCbh2AmO_t4?si=WWLO12iUTXc3fvR3

Last week, American company Boom Supersonic flew faster than the speed of sound with its XB-1 supersonic demonstrator aircraft. It’s now the first piloted non-military aircraft to break the sound barrier since the Concorde was retired from service in 2003.

It’s the first step in Boom’s ambitious goal to have supersonic airliners carry passengers by 2029. But what exactly is supersonic travel? There are good reasons why it’s not more common, despite the hype.

What is Supersonic Flight?
The Mach number is defined as a plane’s speed divided by the speed that sound waves move through the air. To “break the sound barrier” means to fly faster than the speed of sound, with Mach numbers greater than 1.


The Mach number is an important ratio: as a plane flies, it disturbs the air in front of it. These disturbances move at the speed of sound. In supersonic flight these disturbances combine to form shock waves around the vehicle.

When people say you can see a fighter jet before you hear it, they’re referring to supersonic flight: fighter jets can travel at around Mach 2. The sound from the fighter jet is trapped inside its shock wave; until the shock wave moves to your position on the ground, you won’t hear the plane.

The Allurement of Supersonic Travel
For efficiency reasons, most passenger jets cruise slightly slower than the speed of sound, at around Mach 0.8 (this is subsonic flight).

Boom plans to build an airliner called Overture that can fly at Mach 1.7. Flying supersonically can drastically decrease flight times. The company claims a trip from New York to Rome on Overture could take just four hours and 40 minutes, instead of eight hours.

Boom isn’t the only company working on this lofty goal. American firm Spike Aerospace is also developing a supersonic business jet, with the tagline “delivering the world in half the time”.

This is the value proposition of supersonic passenger travel. In limited ways, it did already exist in the 20th century. However, due to timing, bad luck and the laws of physics, it didn’t continue.

Designs for supersonic airliners began in the mid-20th century, and by the 1970s we had supersonic passenger flight.

There was the little-known Russian Tupolev-144 and Concorde, a Franco-British supersonic airliner operated by British Airways and Air France from 1976 to 2003.

Concorde had a capacity of up to 128 passengers and cruised at Mach 2. It regularly travelled from London to New York in around three hours. The flights were expensive, mainly shuttling business people and the rich and famous.

Why Supersonic Passenger Flight Didn’t Take Off?
Concorde was designed in the 1960s when it seemed like supersonic passenger transport was going to be the next big thing. Instead, the Boeing 747 entered commercial service in 1970. Cheap, large and efficient airliners like it blew Concorde out of the water.


Designed to cruise efficiently at supersonic speeds, Concorde was extremely fuel inefficient when taking off and accelerating. Concorde’s expensive, “gas guzzling” nature was a complaint levelled against it for most of its lifetime.

A catastrophic 1973 Paris air show crash of the competing Russian airliner, Tupolev Tu-144, also shifted public perception on supersonic flight safety at a time when many airlines were considering whether or not to purchase Concordes. Only 20 Concordes were manufactured out of the planned 100. It is still disputed today whether Concorde ever made money for the airlines who operated it.

Noise is a real problem for supersonic flight
Remember the fighter jets? When a plane travels supersonically, its shock waves propagate to the ground, causing loud disturbances called sonic booms. In extreme cases they can shatter windows and damage buildings.


In the early 1970s, sonic boom concerns led the United States government to ban supersonic passenger flight over land in the US. This hurt the Concorde’s potential market, hence its only two regular routes were trans-Atlantic flights principally over the water. The Concorde was also a very loud plane at takeoff, since it needed a lot of thrust to leave the ground.

The Future of Supersonic Travel
A future for supersonic travel relies on solving some or all of the issues Concorde faced. NASA and Lockheed Martin’s Quesst project aims to show sonic boom can be dissipated to manageable levels. They plan to fly their X-59 supersonic aircraft over US cities and gauge responses from citizens.


Quesst aims to use the geometry of the X-59, with a long elongated nose, to dissipate sonic booms to a weak “thump”, hopefully allowing supersonic airliners to travel over land in the future. Spike Aerospace’s Spike S-512 Diplomat concept also aims to be a “quiet” supersonic aircraft with a less disruptive sonic boom.

Can Boom Surpass Concorde?
Boom Supersonic doesn’t plan to fly supersonically over land. Its plan is to fly over land at Mach 0.94, which it claims will allow 20% faster overland travel than standard passenger airliners, even subsonically.


It also claim the design of its engines will ensure Overture is no louder than modern subsonic airliners when it takes off. In terms of gas-guzzling, it plans to use up to 100% sustainable aviation fuel to reduce emissions and its carbon footprint.

Concorde was made of aluminium using design tools available in the 1960s. Modern design methods and modern aerospace materials such as titanium and carbon fibre should also allow Overture and similar craft to weigh much less than Concorde, improving efficiency.

While Boom is currently receiving a lot of interest, with orders from many airlines, Concorde did have similar commitment before it become available. Most of it didn’t eventuate.

Additionally, Concorde was the product of an analog era when the idea of flying to London or New York for the day for an important business meeting seemed like a necessary thing. In a world of remote work and video meetings, is there still a need for a supersonic airliner in the 2020s?

For now, supersonic airliners like Overture are likely to remain in the realm of the rich and famous, like Concorde did. But with modern technological advances, it will be interesting to see whether supersonic passenger travel once again becomes reality or even goes mainstream. Only time will tell.

Editor’s Note: Chris James is UQ Amplify Senior Lecturer at the Centre for Hypersonics, School of Mechanical and Mining Engineering, at The University of Queensland. He receives funding from the Australian Research Council, the Commonwealth Defence Science and Technology Group (DSTG), and the US Office of Naval Research.
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/supersonic-jets-comeback-when-hype/index.html

Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by Racoon(op): 3:13pm On Feb 06, 2025
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by Racoon(op):
Another Concorde is here though it took the world a long time in getting a replacement. How the 747 Jumbos displaced Concorde is really a wonder. Though the odds against the Concorde were many.

The Gonnese - Paris Crash of 25 July 2000 sealed its fate. Meanwhile, let see how the sonic boom effect will be overcome. Bravo!
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by akpaan(m): 3:38pm On Feb 06, 2025
It’s crazy how fast tech has advanced, but the big question is—do we even need super-fast planes anymore when people can just hop on Zoom for meetings? If they can actually fix the noise and fuel problems, maybe supersonic travel will make a comeback, but it still feels like something only rich people will afford. Guess we’ll have to wait and see!
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by JackDaAlienz(m): 3:38pm On Feb 06, 2025
Any fastest means of Transportation is The fastest way to Die

What are you rushing for that ordinary plane cannot carry u there
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by Houseofglam7(f): 3:38pm On Feb 06, 2025
😳
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by ednut1(m): 3:38pm On Feb 06, 2025
Which year African countries go begin innovate like this 😩
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by Thunderfayamods: 3:40pm On Feb 06, 2025
JackDaAlienz:
The fastest way to Die
Weed is not good!
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by Lordbinsmar: 3:40pm On Feb 06, 2025
grin

Chai all this things reminds me of my compressible flow course (MEE 401) at OAU IFE. That course and mechanical vibrations has too much formula and I never sabi cramming for that time. Naa B dem nack me for both course, but those courses sweet.

One of my mentors is researching on shock waves and supersonic flow at McGill in Canada. I am sure he might be working in this direction. Omo people too sabi book ooo.
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by AngloLatinos: 3:42pm On Feb 06, 2025
Concord will be doing a sudden comeback. This i have seen
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by Lordbinsmar: 3:45pm On Feb 06, 2025
JackDaAlienz:
Any fastest means of Transportation is The fastest way to Die

What are you rushing for that ordinary plane cannot carry u there
Science will solve all this problem in the future.
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by theophorus(m): 3:48pm On Feb 06, 2025
Oshey! Unado well.

Sha, make we remember say as the Jet dey fast na so if anything wen happen self go fast.

Speed limit good so that things no happen too fast but if we wan exceed sound speed no wahala but make we no forget say F=MA and Sound no really get beta M.

So make we no compete with wetin ni get Am.
Make our Egungun be careful make he no go enter express.
Ibatago?
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by Soljaboi44(m): 3:49pm On Feb 06, 2025
Omoh.. shocked shocked
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by LegacyB: 3:50pm On Feb 06, 2025
I just say make I hail Nigerians oo. We are supersonic when it comes to religion, tribal Slurs, comparison of Davido ,Wiz Kid and Burna. Technologically development for us mostly na to couple “Keke “Napeep.
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by Konquest:
That's an impressive comeback for the supersonic jet aircraft. Safety measures will have to be absolutely redefined because the iconic Concorde supersonic jet jointly built by the British and French had ONLY one horrendous plane crash in France in its entire history of aviation travel.

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/supersonic-jets-comeback-when-hype/index.html


Boom Supersonic Overture. I watched all the videos here. Amazing stuff... Absolutely mad sick.


Boom Overture vs Concorde: Which Supersonic Aircraft Is Better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AUgtK13Vqw
The Buzz • Feb 2025

Boom Supersonic XB-1 Takes Historic Flight, Breaks Sound Barrier | Vantage with Palki Sharma | N18G

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhJCBJeKMvM
Firstpost • Feb 2025
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by oweniwe(m): 4:03pm On Feb 06, 2025
akpaan:
It’s crazy how fast tech has advanced, but the big question is—do we even need super-fast planes anymore when people can just hop on Zoom for meetings? If they can actually fix the noise and fuel problems, maybe supersonic travel will make a comeback, but it still feels like something only rich people will afford. Guess we’ll have to wait and see!
Can documents requiring your signature be signed over zoom?
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by DuttyChuks: 4:06pm On Feb 06, 2025
Working country, while Tilumbu is busy flying to France for battery reacharging and replacement!
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by Okoromadunigi: 4:09pm On Feb 06, 2025
Why are you always seeing obvious things
AngloLatinos:
Concord will be doing a sudden comeback. This i have seen
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by akpaan(m): 4:13pm On Feb 06, 2025
oweniwe:
Can documents requiring your signature be signed over zoom?
Yes, documents requiring your signature can be signed online using electronic signature (e-signature) solutions
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by nnewi1stchild: 4:28pm On Feb 06, 2025
ednut1:
Which year African countries go begin innovate like this 😩
The year 6050 I guess
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by EmmyMaestro(m): 4:36pm On Feb 06, 2025
Don't let Tinubu see this before he will include it in the budget so that they can have it in the presidential fleet
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by Agugbadin: 4:54pm On Feb 06, 2025
Amazing and commendable.
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by richeeyo(m): 5:02pm On Feb 06, 2025
Nairalanders wouldn't jump on this, because most of them doesn't have and don't seek to acquire knowledge beyond their fields, but its to abuse each other's tribe and insult the president, that's when everyone wants to sound like they have something in their head
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by Krak(m): 5:07pm On Feb 06, 2025
Lordbinsmar:
Science will solve all this problem in the future.
And in the process create brand new problems that also begs for new solutions. Problems can never end
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by Btruth: 5:08pm On Feb 06, 2025
Excellent news if true.
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by Lordbinsmar: 5:34pm On Feb 06, 2025
Krak:
And in the process create brand new problems that also begs for new solutions. Problems can never end
Can you explain what you mean by brand new problems?

So you rather treck from lagos to abuja instead of using a vehicle?
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by meobizy(m): 5:38pm On Feb 06, 2025
These things make a comeback every week on Nairaland. In the real world, not so much.
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by mushroomFarm: 5:51pm On Feb 06, 2025
ednut1:
Which year African countries go begin innovate like this 😩
It goes beyond what the eyes can see.
I once pitched a tech innovation idea with possibility of 800% turnover to some Nigerian investors but they do not even seen to understand it. These same set of people prefer to waste funds on girls, dorime in clubs etc.
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by muyico(m): 6:27pm On Feb 06, 2025
Safety aspects
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by paix(m): 6:35pm On Feb 06, 2025
ednut1:
Which year African countries go begin innovate like this 😩
The ONLY thing they have to innovate is CORRUPTION!!!
Re: Post - Concorde Era; Supersonic Jets Are Making A Comeback. by paix(m): 6:37pm On Feb 06, 2025
JackDaAlienz:
Any fastest means of Transportation is The fastest way to Die

What are you rushing for that ordinary plane cannot carry u there
I believe you're not using Nokia 3310. What's making you use the current phone?
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