₦airaland Forum

KINGsXchange:
Sit, meditate and emblem it.. and you will see beyond that it's still the same thing as 6 3 3 4

My question is, what is wrong with that?

iichidodo:
[color=#1986BC] As long as they can read and write when they get out, then it's cool....[/color]

Reading and writing should not be the aim, building and bringing alive should be the aim!

So na our problem be this? Kai what a country

BreconHills:
I repeat again slowly. What is Nigerias language? Does Nigeria have a unifying language like the Malaysians, English or Singaporeans? If it does which is your thesis - what is it?

Again, you're asking this question because you're incapable of perceiving an alternative. Be informed that ANY LANGUAGE COULD BE USED TO ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE. It's the white man that has railroaded you into doing it in his language only.

And you're probably a Christian with the European Bible in almost all Nigerian languages. But you're cool with that. Why haven't it occurred to you that people who gave you that religion knew that the best way to pass knowledge is in our native language?

If white people knew that our native language was the best way to penetrate the African continent with their God; what else do you need to know what language you should use for education?

D00msDay:
Our education system should give compulsory room for vocational training, tech skills etc. The world is changing and our educational system should be adjusted to fit into the new world. Let's do away wit our archaic and precolonial system of education.

The future is tech. AI is taking over. Acquiring a tech skills should be a must in our educational system.

Years back I had to talk some sense into my young bro who wanted to study mechanical engineering " the same course I graduated wit but nothing to show for it and I had to switch profession". I told him to go for software engineering or cyber security. After all the argument he took my advice and now a graduate of computer engineering from FUTMINNA and his his doing so well for himself and the family.

After chopping books like Engineering Drawing with Worked Examples, by F. Pickup and M.A. Parker, and graduating wit a 2.1, I still ended up changing profession.

Engineering drawing was a bonus course in Mechanical Engineering.

If you want to talk about Mech Engn... Then start with:
Strenght of Materials
Fluid Mechanics
Engineering Thermodynamics

Those were the killer courses!

seunlayi:
When are we getting it right? So this moving back and forward won't help us. Is 6 + 3 +3 not 12 before?

You didn't understand the post.
According to the post, we have
Primary school
You write common entrance, then enter secondary school
In secondary you will do JSS1 to 3 then write Junior WAEC to enter SS1 then finally write Senior WAEC.

They are saying morning like that again in the basic education. Basic education is from primary 1 to SS3.

The new system will be, once you enter primary 1 (Basic 1) you'll will not break any class like coming to write WAEC to enter another level.
So nothing like primary or secondary. It will be like Basic 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 to Basic 12. Then when you complete Basic 12, you now write an exam to proceed to higher education which is University.

So no more First School Leaving Certificate Exam. No more Junior or Senior WAEC. No more NECO.

So according to them, students will no longer drop out from schools with the reason that their parents can't afford FSLC exam fees or WAE and NECO exam fees.

FreeStuffsNG:
It is now new Most of the standard private schools have been running this for decades.

A single school will have Primary 1 class all the way to SS3! Some of the people commenting here attended such schools yet could not fathom that their education was based on that model. Smh

You're wrong.
Even if such private schools have from primary 1 to SS3 they still write FSLC exams, WAEC and NECO exams which is different from what the new system is saying.

6 3 3 =12
Same thing only name change

Ofemannnu:
https://guardian.ng/features/education/fg-scraps-jss-sss-introduces-12-year-basic-education-model/

Hope they scrapped dilapidated learning facilities too

Kobojunkie:
Dem no go give you report card wey go show say you completed the 9th year?

so what u are saying is that u can carry ur 300 level semester result to present as a certificate?
The report card is not a certificate and can not get u any job

KINGsXchange:
The Fxck is this…
And somebody who is sickhead below me will say “Good development”

What is the problem with compulsorily locking kids in school and giving them a good education? Please tell me.

How prepared is Nigeria for this reform?
How many schools do we have that is ready for this reform?
How many teachers are well trained and equipped for this reform?
Do we have infrastructures in our primary and secondary/technical schools to drive this reform?
What will happen to some private schools that we have which is helping the system to grow ?
What about fundings?
Will it be tuition free from start to finish?
What of other needs for the learners if it is going to be free?
Do we have a conducive environment for this reform?
If I may say something here as one of the stakeholders, the planned policy is not possible now in the country for reason all of us knows. It is like pouring water on already poorb burning wood in a bite to make it burn faster.
Easier says than done.
Proper accessment should be done on those countries that are on this kind of educational plan. Also, we should know that those countries is not and can never be Nigeria.
Here we are wonderfully and fearfully made.
Now my advice is please do not spoil our educational system for us. Let us work hard to give necessary attention our educational system required. The 6-3-3-4 system has no problem, and I would say is the best.

I don't think the stakeholders are involved in this process of this reform. Only in
Nigeria something like this can happen.
But is it not a solution to our educational system.
I know what the problem is
You know what the problem is
And even they know what the problem is

I don't think the stakeholders were involved in this process of this reform. Only in
Nigeria something like this can happen.
But is it not a solution to our educational system.
I know what the problem is
You know what the problem is
And even they know what the problem is

As if this is the problem with our educational system!

If you like, do not have conducive learning environments and trained teachers... Have schools that look like abandoned poultries and be talking about year one to year 12

I have problem with 12- 4 model. Instead we should go the way 10-2-4. The 2 in between should be for compulsory technical/vocational college education

This literally implies that a person who couldn't further his/her education due to financial constraint cannot apply for a job with his or her primary school certificate or JSCE certificate. Is that a good development? Well, this is Nigeria; there must always be a way to navigate things.

Nice one! Now, scrap the polytechnics and make them technical colleges where you can acquire 3 years apprenticeship skills.

96ACE:
Irrespective of how you rearrange ignorance, it will never amount to valuable knowledge.

this takes the cake. slapping a new wrapper untop an infected wound won't magically solve the underlying problem, which in this case is the quality of education being terrible and behind the rest of the developed world.

musicwriter:
Again, you're asking this question because you're incapable of perceiving an alternative. Be informed that ANY LANGUAGE COULD BE USED TO ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE. It's the white man that has railroaded you into doing it in his language only.

And you're probably a Christian with the European Bible in almost all Nigerian languages. But you're cool with that. Why haven't it occurred to you that people who gave you that religion knew that the best way to pass knowledge is in our native language?

If white people knew that our native language was the best way to penetrate the African continent with their God; what else do you need to know what language you should use for education?

Keep your hair on. This isnt a fight. Its a discussion.

So in practical terms igbo children in lagos would be taught in which language? Ditto for yorubas in Port Harcourt but to use two examples. Would we see the emergence of yoruba and igbo language schools?
When you consider that there are 520 languages in
Nigeria how feasible is this idea.

If a child were to transfer schools from one region to another, would he need to learn a new language? Or find a place where his own language was being used.

The point I am trying to make is that solutions are hardly ever universal. They take a lot of thinking through. Because something worked in Malaysia does not necessarily mean that it's application elsewhere must be the same.

There is after all - the law of unintended consequences. If this solution is to work it cannot be at the behest of the state. It is not Nigerias remit. It is the responsibility of individuals and groups in the private sector to set up such schools as is done by the Indian and Lebanese community in Nigeria and elsewhere.

The state can approve the textbooks and curriculum. but it cannot have the responsibility of setting up such
schools.

I simply wanted you to think it through and communicate it as such. Afrocentric ideas are not new to me but they must be workable else they will remain in the realms of fantasy and philosophy.

And believe me there is nothing as weird as an angry philosopher.

KINGsXchange:
The Fxck is this…
And somebody who is sickhead below me will say “Good development”

That is how it is in US, Europe and some Asia middle eastern countries.

BreconHills:
Keep your hair on. This isnt a fight. Its a discussion.

So in practical terms igbo children in lagos would be taught in which language? Ditto for yorubas in Port Harcourt but to use two examples. Would we see the emergence of yoruba and igbo language schools?
When you consider that there are 520 languages in
Nigeria how feasible is this idea.

If a child were to transfer schools from one region to another, would he need to learn a new language? Or find a place where his own language was being used.

The point I am trying to make is that solutions are hardly ever universal. They take a lot of thinking through. Because something worked in Malaysia does not necessarily mean that it's application elsewhere must be the same.

There is after all - the law of unintended consequences. If this solution is to work it cannot be at the behest of the state. It is not Nigerias remit. It is the responsibility of individuals and groups in the private sector to set up such schools as is done by the Indian and Lebanese community in Nigeria and elsewhere.

The state can approve the textbooks and curriculum. but it cannot have the responsibility of setting up such
schools.

I simply wanted you to think it through and communicate it as such. Afrocentric ideas are not new to me but they must be workable else they will remain in the realms of fantasy and philosophy.

And believe me there is nothing as weird as an angry philosopher.

Now you're talking!

Our responsibility, if we're to be said to be in our right state of mind is to profer ideas as to how to work it out, not to immediately reject it as an impossibility.

The former minister of education already floated such idea as yours. He said that education should happen in the most popular language in a region. For example; Igbos in Yorubaland would acquire their education in Yoruba language, while Yorubas in Igboland do the same in Igbo language.

Those are options right there. Remember what it means is that there'll be Igbo schools in Yorubaland and Yoruba schools in Igboland too for those who don't want to study in a different language.

Those are the type of ideas we should hammer out, not to immediately dismiss it as impossible.

No, I am not angry with you per se but just frustrated that we're not thinking along this line.

This government and failure nah like 5/6 what's the difference here ,same old wine in new bottle... Instead of them wasting all this resources, they should reduce the course our kids study, how can I study mathematics, economy when I am end up In other profession that has nothing to do with any of the subjects.. why not make it this way .. if they want to be doctors, let the person start studying subjects that related to it, if you want to be accountant, study accountancy, if you want to be chemist, study chemistry and biology from day one to your university, it will lesson the burden of learning other meaningless subjects... The shorthand I learn in school, the typewriter, French I learn , no be waste of knowledge today

SmartyPants:
Because we are not Americans we can't borrow some ideas from them? You're just silly.

check wella now you don't have passport talk more of being in cotonou before, but knows everything about America. I thought that lie Muhammad doesn't have a son? But it seems you wants to beat your father's record by lying.

I was the last form 5 set. Then secondary school was from form 1 to form 5. You can then do your A levels, either lower or upper level or the two.

In 1985, the 6-3-3-4 system began. My immediate juniors were the first jss set. 1985/86

yommen:
Children of the rich that can't compose good English sentences. .

Abeg make una leave the 6-3-3-4 as e be. Nothing do am

Naija mata tire me sha!

Na follow follow we Sabi, we no dey even try to improve on wetin we dey copy.

We copy parliamentary system e no work and we also copy presidential system na im worst pass...

Polytechnic education we copy am but today others don move on we still dey dey battle HND/BSc dichotomy.

The 6334 we copy am but we get anytin from am?

Now na 6 4, good luck Nigerians.

SmartyPants:
Should we be unique for the sake of being unique? What is the wisdom in reinventing the wheel when Americans have made a very good wheel that works, just because you want to have an African wheel?

What is your actual grouse with this system?

My grouse with the system is the fact that there's absolutely nothing we've copied from American system that we've gotten right like Americans do. We can never act or think like Americans! It's not possible! We are Nigerians and Nigerians we will always be in our actions and inactions. Our problems are Nigerian problems that need Nigerian solution. There's nothing wrong with the system in place. It's just that we are having wrong people in power tenure in tenure out.

D00msDay:
Our education system should give compulsory room for vocational training, tech skills etc. The world is changing and our educational system should be adjusted to fit into the new world. Let's do away wit our archaic and precolonial system of education.

The future is tech. AI is taking over. Acquiring a tech skills should be a must in our educational system.

Years back I had to talk some sense into my young bro who wanted to study mechanical engineering " the same course I graduated wit but nothing to show for it and I had to switch profession". I told him to go for software engineering or cyber security. After all the argument he took my advice and now a graduate of computer engineering from FUTMINNA and his his doing so well for himself and the family.

After chopping books like Engineering Drawing with Worked Examples, by F. Pickup and M.A. Parker, and graduating wit a 2.1, I still ended up changing profession.

Guy! Na engineering drawings be ur problem? That strength if material mehn, e give gunmen headache. Sha, oluwa was involved

emmy4real94:
so what u are saying is that u can carry ur 300 level semester result to present as a certificate?
The report card is not a certificate and can not get u any job

A report card is equally a kibd of certificate and proof of completion of the number of years of education required. 🤔

abidem4real:
My grouse with the system is the fact that there's absolutely nothing we've copied from American system that we've gotten right like Americans do. We can never act or think like Americans! It's not possible! We are Nigerians and Nigerians we will always be in our actions and inactions. Our problems are Nigerian problems that need Nigerian solution. There's nothing wrong with the system in place. It's just that we are having wrong people in power tenure in tenure out.

What Nigeria has is NOT a copy of the American system.