₦airaland Forum

tctrills:
That's your interpretation.
But the data is against you.
1929.
1948,
1967,
1973,
First intifada,
Second intifada
Numerous Hamas invasions,
October 7th 2023.
History is not on your side.

IyfeNamikaze:
Who is this Olodo? So the safed pogroms in 1517 where the Arabs were killing some of the Jewish communities during the ottoman empire nko? How about the 1577 passover massacre in Palestine?
Honestly I don't understand how you people just come out boldly with your ignorance. There has never been a time in recorded history that the Jews weren't on that land. I'm 70AD after the burning of Jerusalem by the Romans, the Jews were banned from settling in Jerusalem and the name was changed to Palestinia to spite the Jews.
That name "Palestine" is a spite on the Jews to diminish them on their own land. The Jews continued to settle there.

RealityOfReason:
You are openly advocating for genocide. That's bold coming from an African supporting Jews

Bar1941:
Try to study a bit ok!

When when the whole world rejected your favourite Israelis, it was this same Arabs that welcomed them. Now they are trying to exterminate the only people that welcomed them and you guys see nothing wrong in that!

If evil prevail for decades, truth will surpass it in just one day.

TruthU87:
Unacceptable: European countries reiterated their support for the two-state solution and rebuke Trump's expansionist agenda.

Source: Euronews
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/02/05/unacceptable-european-countries-firmly-reject-trumps-plan-to-take-over-gaza

Krismas:
U are a LIAR.
So called Safed looting, happened in 1834. The Jews came to Palestine in the 1800s from Russia trying to buy lands from Ottoman.
Stop inventing foolish dates and fake histories.
It was the Romans that created the fake entity called Kingdom of Judaea
IT NEVER EXISTED BEFORE
The place, b4 the Roman came, was Hasmonaean Kingdom of Palestine, a district of Syria.
When Rome cancelled the fake kingdom of Judaea, the former name of the place, Palestine, became in use by d Romans
That place has always been known as Palestine.
Before, During and After the Romans

IyfeNamikaze:
you're indeed an Olodo+

1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1517_Safed_attacks
That's the first Safed pogroms. If you weren't suffering from acute olodoism you would have just typed in that date on Google. The fact that there have been Jews living there even in 1500s completely torpedoes your entire ignorant argument!

2. Olodo the Russians are Slavs from the Aryan race, they're the same race as the Germans. The Jews are Semitic race, same with the Persians like Iranians, Iraqis, they're not Slavs neither are they Aryan race both in culture, physical appearance and language structure and so it's only an Olodo pro max like you that will ever make such a crazy statement of Jews coming from Russia.

3. To show you just how much of an Olodo you are, the Romans couldn't have created a kingdom of Judea when there's a Cesar/emperor ruling in Rome. What the Romans would establish would be a province not a kingdom, do you know why? It's like Tinubu establishing the nation of Biafra. If the Romans established the Kingdom of Judea then they're practically relinquishing their sovereign over Judea and Samaria.
What the Romans established was the province of Judea and Samaria, they allowed the conquered Jews to still have a king, but that king is only just ceremonial, he has no legitimate power, all power of that province is on the Perfect of the province who was Pontius Pilate who is directly under the Cesar/emperor. The emperor can not create a kingdom because he's not a king himself.

I'm giving you free of charge lessons to help cure your acute olodoism.

4. Oya read here to learn about the kingdom of judea and how it was established after the separation of the United Kingdom of Israel after the death of Solomon.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Judah

5. Again to further highlight just how much of a lost cause your olodoism truly is, you don't even know that the Hashmonean kingdom was actually a Jewish state

Read it here Olodo pro Max

https://countries.fandom.com/wiki/Hasmonean_Kingdom#:~:text=The%20Hasmonean%20Kingdom%20(Hebrew%3A%20Mamle%E1%B8%B5e%E1%B9%AF,the%20Roman%20Empire%20took%20over

In all my years of encountering olodoism on this nairaland, yours might very well be the most severe case ever

Botragelad:
These so-called Palestinians and their worthless identity have gotten billions of dollars in aid from all over the world. And what did these radical Islamists do with it? They built tunnels, launched rockets at Israel, played the victim card, and then cried when they lost a war they started in the first place.

Even when Israel handed Gaza back to these terrorists years ago, they didn’t stop their nonsense. At this point, there’s no other option but to kick them out of Gaza and anywhere else they’re causing trouble.

StoryHaven:
Many of them are emotional and cant face the truth.
Egypt was once an enemy of Israel. They were part of the Six days war in 1967.
They made peace with Israel in 1978/79 in 1980 Israel returned the Sinai Penisular they conquered in 1967 and ever since then there has been peace between them.

All Israel ever want is to live at peace with her neighbors but some of them believe whatever differences they have can only be solved by war.
NEGOTIATION is the answer.

WAR IS NEVER A SOLUTION.

Botragelad:
Can someone tell us what Palestine is and how they own the land they lay claim to? 😂

eliwa47:
Honestly Trump too dey over do, how's he going to achieve this in the midst of strong opposition?

epainos:
This is getting interesting. What I know is that these two nations cannot stay together. It is either Israel takes over or Palestine does. Though, everyone will shout now, but the truth will be the truth, and the seed has been sown by Trump.

It may take another 40 to 50 years before this can be achieved, but one nation will take over the whole land. This is the solution. Israel has to move to the US, or Palestine moves to other Arabic nations.

The nation that aligns with the powerful nation will win the bid. As long as US is the world power, Israel will win the land. And if republican can rule the US for like 12 more years, Isreal will win. But if either China or Russia takes over, Palestine will win. China is a force to reckon with. Watch out.

The reason for my view is because Islam is a violent religion. They will use everything to force their will on others. They don't want to know who you are. They behave like terrorists. It is how they have been trying to force sharia on Nigerians. Also, the Jews are stubborn. They are a very good match for moslims. Na 'go' dem hear, dem no hear 'come'. The only way dem hear come is when it favors them. When everyone says they should stop bombing Gaza, they said they will stop only when they annex Gaza. Lol. But they stopped only when the most powerful nation promised to secure the land and chase Palestine. Na real stubbornness be that. So, the two of them fit each other.

Na the smarter nation go win this war. And the way it is, Israel is at a very big advantage. They expect everyone will cry foul play, but the US will do the magic. Germany and France will first change their positions, and later all NATO nations will. That's the end.

Except it is not God's will, or God isnt interested in the case will Israel not take the whole of the land. Only God can reverse the case for Palestine to take over the land.

This is my view and opinion. You can kiss my a.ss... if you don't like my comment.

eliwa47:
Honestly Trump too dey over do, how's he going to achieve this in the midst of strong opposition?

Krismas:
Mumu
1. Jews are the greatest liars this world has ever seen. So, don't be too quick to believe every story about jew cause u saw it on the internet. Jews came into palestine first time in the 1800s. I will prove this soon enough
2. Jews are never Semites. They are European.
3. Herod was the one who persuaded Rome to attack Palestine
He spent 2yrs in Rome lobbying the Roman senate to name him king of Judaeans
Rome created the kingdom of Judaea with Herod as the king
king are the head of king-doms
Kingdom of Judaea was created from the existing Hasmonaean kingdom of Palestine
Romans met the name of the place as Palestine
Pontius Pilate was only administrator of Judaea after Herod's son was deposed. Herod divided his kingdom b4 he died into 4 among his 4children. Pilate got just one of the divisions.
Kingdom of Judaea is different from Judaea. This fact is very important.
4. Don't worry about ur fake link. Kingdom of Israel never existed, King Solomon never existed. Thats all fiction
5. I will not be surprised, if today is ur first time hearing Hasmonaean. Israel is usually quiet on them, cos those people were never Jews. Jews are not from the middle east or people of the bible.

IyfeNamikaze:
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StoryHaven:
Many of them are emotional and cant face the truth.
Egypt was once an enemy of Israel. They were part of the Six days war in 1967.
They made peace with Israel in 1978/79 in 1980 Israel returned the Sinai Penisular they conquered in 1967 and ever since then there has been peace between them.

All Israel ever want is to live at peace with her neighbors but some of them believe whatever differences they have can only be solved by war.
NEGOTIATION is the answer.

WAR IS NEVER A SOLUTION.

IyfeNamikaze:
1. So I shouldn't believe facts but instead believe in your fiction? Provide links to back up your stupid claims or otherwise shut up. I've have provided you with links that proves that Jews have always been in that land since time immemorial and yet you're still parroting bullshit.

2. You're a complete lost cause. Pilate was not just an administrator, he was the prefect of the entire province. That's why he had the final decision in the crucifixion of Jesus and not Herod or the Sanhedrin. You're a complete Olodo who will never learn anything even if your head is cracked open and books are stuffed into it. Olodo Rome didn't create any kingdom, it was an empire for goodness sake! It didn't create any kingdom in any of it's provinces. Do you even understand what a kingdom means?

4. Of course you are not going to open my because it completely reveals just how much of an Olodo you are. So you would rather remain an idiotic Olodo who knows absolutely nothing and argues like a robot. You have not provided any single links to back up your preposterous claims and you don't want to check out links that talks about real facts. Talking with you is a complete waste of time. But I'm not arguing with you so that you learn, you're already a lost cause.

5. Lol... At isreal being quiet about their last kingdom before the Roman conquest. Wait a minute where do you think the Jews during the time of Christ came from?

6. The only thing you were able to provide is that John Hopkins report that has been debunked numerous times. For you to paste this with your full chest just reveals just how little you know.

7. I will give you an advice though, try and educate yourself, read actual history and not tiktok videos or your islamic propaganda. Read real history. Because you sound very uneducated in this topic.

Sterope:
I am sorry what facts?

No one has ever denied that Jews have always been on that land. Many converted to Christianity at some point. Many were killed by Christians and tortured and exiled by Christians.

Did you read that part of history too?

Many of you are quick to blame Islam

When Christians were the first group of people that killed Jews, sent families out of Palestine and restrained them from worship. Everywhere they went in Europe, they always treated them with disdain and cruelty.

The first time a Muslim took over Jerusalem. His name is Umar and he was one for he prophet's companion and a friend, he restored their right and granted them freedom of worship.

It was Muslims that saved Jews massacre in Spain again from Christians. Did you also read that part of history?

If you asked any Jew, which is better than for them historically, they will always pick Muslims, NEVER Christians and this isn't to say there wasn't a period Muslims were cruel too but it was short and other Muslims supported the Jews.

Tere is no where in the world people give out land to others because of their faith, it is usually based on tribe. Arabs around Lebanon, Syria, Palestine are actually Semite. They have more Semitic blood coursing through their veins. Many of these Jews are more European than Semite. You cannot compare 5% Semitic to 80%.

The ethnic Arab isn't a monolithic ethnic group. It is like calling all Nigerians the same. It is apolitical word. The DNA of a Palestinians is vastly different from a Qatari or a Saudi Arabian. And like that for so many others "Arab".

The issue many of you hypocritical Christians have with Palestinians is their religion. You hated that they converted to Islam from Christianity. You hated that Muslims conquered Jerusalem because if it had remained Christian, you won't be supporting Jews.

You cannot continue with twisting facts and listening to Jewish propaganda but one day you will defend yourself before God.

Did I also mention that to the you are nothing but a pagan? A pagan!!! And a tool. How else would they have achieved their Zionist dream without Pentestcostal Christians. They sold you fools a lie, and you gulped it.


FYI, On John Hopkins result, you are a bigger Olodo and a bigger idiot if you believed that it was debunked. Europeans Jews are the only group on the world where ancestry and everything related to their origins are always manipulated and under scrutiny because they want their lies to become so true, they want to be Semitic so bad. So Good luck being a fool about their ancestry.

I am not sad about you. What is true and what is false will made clear one day. I am patient, are you?

IyfeNamikaze:
Another olodoism patient don enter clinic lol....

Krismas:
Lol
1. you call links facts? You are retarded or wot? the internet is filled with trash and Jews are expert at fabricating stories.
dats all am telling you. i didn't say i wont present proofs. jews got to Palestine in 1800s, is suffice for now.
2. Stupid. why dont u even try and read up how Herod divided his kingdom before he died? Herod gave his son Archelaus Judaea.
It was wen Archelaus lost his tetrarchy, that Pilate was sent to replace him. This is authentic history.
U can read it up here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herodian_tetrarchy
In ur super story sef, Pilate is said to have sent d so called Jesus, to Antipas for judgment. Cos Jesus is from Antipas' tetrarchy. If Pilate was InCharge of the entire kingdom of Judaea, why will he do such? The kingdom of Judaea is not the same thing as Judaea.
4. U too dull, trying to brag wot u not.. U don't know anything. Just prepare for what is coming. I know peeps like u though.
As soon as u become overwhelmed with information, you will run away.
5. Christ is a Roman fabrication. Hasmonean were never Jews. There were no Jews in Palestine before 1800s
6. I gave Netanyahu son's DNA result. He is Ashkenazi and he is Polish. There are phletora of reports from many institutions, similar to John Hopkins. I will show them to you in a bit.
7. You dont know wot i know. We are not on the same level.

So, for anyone with half a brain, will undestand that proofs to any one of these points is lengthy and tidious. it will be near impossible to treat all the points. we will have to narrow down.

IyfeNamikaze:
1. Olodo did you even bother to read the links you posted?
From the link it clearly says "The Herodian tetrarchy was [/b]a regional division of a client state of Rome[b], formed following the death of Herod the Great in 4 BCE".... [b] Exactly what I just told you earlier[ /b]. It's not a kingdom but a province of Rome Olodo!! And it also says that...." Upon the deposition of Herod Archelaus in 6 CE, his territories were transformed into a Roman province".... Who do you think did that deposition? That was the Emperor Augustus ( also known as Octavia) , he's the one who divided the tetrachy among Archelaus and his sons and sister.

2. Olodo when the senhadrin arrested Jesus they, tried him and said he was guilty and most be killed, they sent him to Pilate because Pilate who was a representative of Cesar Augustus had the final say in condemning anyone to death because they were Ruled by Rome and everyone in any Roman province is considered as a Roman citizen, Pilate send Jesus to Herod because according to him, Jesus has not broken any law at all and he wanted to know if he has broken any Jewish customary law. Herod still had to send him back to Pilat

Olodo let me explain that situation to your olodo head using a more relatable scenario.

3. In Nigeria the Apex court is the Supreme court but any customary dispute would be presided over by the customary court which is a lesser court. If you bring any disputes that has to do with customs and tradition, you will be sent to the customary court first to determine if a law has been defaulted. It doesn't mean that the customary court is superior to the high court, appeal court or supreme court.
That's what pilat did, his authority is superior to Herod's because he was the prefect of judea province but he still had to send Jesus to Herod to ascertain whether Jesus has broken any law.
Who handed Jesus over to the Jews to be Killed, was it Pilat or Herod?

So why did Rome fabricate the story of Jesus?

Krismas:
lol
Am not surprised. Ur IQ is not high
What is written in black and white, u still struggling to understand?

1.
a. The kingdom of Judaea maybe a creation of Rome. Yet its a kingdom nonetheless and the head of the kingdom is a king who was Herod.
b. Before Herod died, he divided the kingdom into four among his children.
c. Archelaus got Tetrarchy of Judaea. Which include only Judaea, Samaria and Idumaea.
d. He was removed by Rome, upon complains by his own subjects of cruelty, murders and extortion.
e. Herods could kill people anytime they like. Or was it not Herod Antipas who beheaded John the Baptist?
f. Pilate was assigned Archelaus' tetrarchy for a while, b4 it was given to Herod Agrippa
g. Pilate was not higher than any Herod or more powerful than them.
h. The kingdom of Judaea is different from the Tetrarchy of Judaea
i. If u still don't get it, then remain in the dark.

2,3. Absolute nonsense.

Herod can try any case and kill anyone of his subjects for fun.
Jesus once ran away cos Herod wanted to kill him
Luke 13:31-34
At that time some Pharisees came to Jesus and said to him, “Leave this place and go somewhere else.
Herod wants to kill you. ” He replied, “Go tell that fox, ‘I will keep on driving out demons and heal


Pls, if you reply rubbish again, i will not reply back any further. Thanks

Sterope:
People who defend Israel are naturally dishonest people. You are both evil and dhshonest.

If palestinians had remained Christians, we will definitely not be having this conversation with Zionist Christians. Majority chose to be Muslims now Zionist Christians believe it is right Palestinians suffer for it.

The reason Lebanese Jews etc moved to OCCUPIED PALESTINE was because when Zionists demanded they leave these countries, they replied no. Israel went ahead to carry out attacks against them and for that reason they were forced to flee. Before you claim any fact, there are books by Jews who confirmed these. People you denied that too, everyone is aware of the terrorist action they carried out against Britain to force their hands to split up Palestine.

I am glad you are admitting the different types of Jew; different skin colours and races from blackest person to the whitest person claiming a right to palestinian land based on semitic traces but you extremely foolish to see the irony BUT people whose ancestors never left the land, who converted from pagan-jews-christian-muslim; You will deny them that right because they are no longer Christians.

I am not the one calling you pagans dear ; Jews call you pagans. They believe I will end up with God like they will, but you? Straight to burning hell for your paganism and lies against God. Some believe that God sent Muhammad but to the Gentiles, not to them. Didn't you know this? How come you didn't know? They can pray in the mosque too and we can pray in their synagogue as well but pray in church? They don't really encourage it becuase it is a place of idolatory. Do you know what they call Mary? It will be a major sin a Muslim says it. You think these Pentecostal Zionist Christian and Zionist relationship is happening because they love you? No, if not for you, they would never have had Palestine. You are a tool, dear. They sold you dolts a propaganda, you are nothing but a means to an end.


FYI, kissing of Kaaba is not mandatory it happened because the same Umar who took Palestine from Christians once saw the prophet doing it and e started doing it and no Muslim needs to do it. Frankly, I don't take anyone that argues about Kaaba seriously, they are just daft. Jews that understand direction to pray do not spend all day arguing about it.

Let your masters do whatever with the Palestinians; but show me who will never die.

When a rabbi tell this you this about Islam: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDsbL-TSmAg/?igsh=dGgxbnY3YnA0anB6

And then say this about you - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DD_tncDtJ4C/?igsh=ZHpobWF4YnZqOHF4c



Those who defend islamic terrorism, intolerance and extremism are worst than the devil himself. You're defending terrorism and extremism. Shame on you!
Mumu there are still Palestinian Christians, wait you think they all converted to Islam?
Palestinians are way too violent and extremist and they deserve the payback they got from Israel.
Ask yourself why no other Arab states came to rescue Gaza? No Egypt, Jordan or even Syria? You know why? Because each time these countries harbor Palestinians, the Palestinians always end up causing a civil war or try to overthrow the government of these countries. They caused a major conflict in Egypt, that's why Egypt's boarders with Gaza is 100 times more stricter than the Gaza boarders with isreal. The Palestinians assassinated Hussein, the Jordanian king and caused a major civil war in Jordan, they were chased out of Jordan and they went to Lebanon and caused another civil war there, forcing Israel to step in. When Kuwait took them in, they conspired with Saddam Hussein to attack Kuwait. So please shut ya mouth, you know absolutely nothing about what you're talking about.

Lol.. who is this Olodo? You mean the same Jews who were treated very harshly by lebanon and other Arab states after the creation of Israel? The Jews in those countries faced severe injustices by these governments, forcing them to pay higher and unfair taxes, even some of these governments openly threatened them and turned a blind eye when Muslims attacked these Jewish communities, they did this as payback for the creation of Israel. Abeg go and sit down one place, you don't know shít!

Lol.... You mean the Arabs terrorist actions on the British officials because of the plans to create a two State in Palestine? Even the ottoman empire advices the British to create a two State if they're to achieve a lasting peace on that land. It was the Arabs Muslims who attacked both the English and the Jewish properties and positions. You're a liar who loves twisting facts... A typical Muslim behaviour.

I don't think you're aware but majority of these so called Palestinians migrated to Palestine during the Arab conquest of the Levant, they were not exactly natives unlike the Jews. The Jewish nativity on that land is stronger and longer than these so called Palestinians. They're mostly Arabs, ans Arabs are not natives of Palestine if we want to go by actual history. The Jews however still retained their presence in Palestine even after they were forcefully deported by the Assyrians and Romans. This is pure and undiluted historical facts!!
Those that migrated out of the Levant and into Europe are still Jews even though some of them may have mixed blood due to intermarriage, but they still retained their traditions even in diaspora. Abeg no come here dey talk nonsense.

Madam Olodo, the Kaaba is and has always been a pagan god which Mohammad incorporated into his blood sucking religion in other to win over the Meccan people and fight against the Medina. You say it's not compulsory but that's the most important holy site in Islam so who are you trying to lie to? Definitely not me because I'm more informed and more educated in this Matter than you.

Look at how you're trying to romance with the Jews yet your hadith says this

Judgement Day will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews. The Jews will hide behind the stones and the trees, and the stones and the trees will say, oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew hiding behind me — come and kill him.”

Keep lying and deceiving yourselves

IyfeNamikaze:
It was not a kingdom under the Roman empire this Olodo!!!

It was Augustus Cesar that divided the tetrachy, open a fucking history book and stop displaying your olodoism everywhere.

Pontius Pilate was indeed higher and more powerful than Herod. It was he that the Senhadrin brought Jesus to for crucifixion, not Herod, because the High priest and his court recognised that Pontius Pilate had the Final say in any matters regarding the province of Judea and Samaria. Arguing with people of your low mentality can be really tiring.

Yes the kingdom of judea is different from the tetrachy of Judea, no one is arguing that with you, Olodo. The kingdom of judea came into existence after the death of Solomon and his son Rehoboam took over, the once united kingdom of Israel separated, becoming the northern kingdom of isreal with Samaria it capital and southern kingdom of judea with Jerusalem being it's capital.

It's like this mumu doesn't know the difference between plotting to kill someone extra judiciously and state sanctioned crucifixion. Herod can plot to kill someone but he doesn't have the power for a State sanctioned killing. That power lies with Pontius Pilate who was the prefect.

epainos:
This is getting interesting. What I know is that these two nations cannot stay together. It is either Israel takes over or Palestine does. Though, everyone will shout now, but the truth will be the truth, and the seed has been sown by Trump.

It may take another 40 to 50 years before this can be achieved, but one nation will take over the whole land. This is the solution. Israel has to move to the US, or Palestine moves to other Arabic nations.

The nation that aligns with the powerful nation will win the bid. As long as US is the world power, Israel will win the land. And if republican can rule the US for like 12 more years, Isreal will win. But if either China or Russia takes over, Palestine will win. China is a force to reckon with. Watch out.

The reason for my view is because Islam is a violent religion. They will use everything to force their will on others. They don't want to know who you are. They behave like terrorists. It is how they have been trying to force sharia on Nigerians. Also, the Jews are stubborn. They are a very good match for moslims. Na 'go' dem hear, dem no hear 'come'. The only way dem hear come is when it favors them. When everyone says they should stop bombing Gaza, they said they will stop only when they annex Gaza. Lol. But they stopped only when the most powerful nation promised to secure the land and chase Palestine. Na real stubbornness be that. So, the two of them fit each other.

Na the smarter nation go win this war. And the way it is, Israel is at a very big advantage. They expect everyone will cry foul play, but the US will do the magic. Germany and France will first change their positions, and later all NATO nations will. That's the end.

Except it is not God's will, or God isnt interested in the case will Israel not take the whole of the land. Only God can reverse the case for Palestine to take over the land.

This is my view and opinion. You can kiss my a.ss... if you don't like my comment.