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Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by PriceActionZ: 3:36pm On Feb 07, 2025

Actually overstaying in another country without proper documents is a crime, hence that person is a criminal. Nothing as good as having complete paper.

Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by KanuSE: 3:36pm On Feb 07, 2025

Ensure to have proper and legal documents when travelling abroad. The west is not smiling because there's so much pressure on their systems and some immigrants also constitute nuisance over there.

Nuff said. wink

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Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by Angelfrost(m): 3:36pm On Feb 07, 2025

Golan007:
Residing in a country is not a criminal issue.

It is a civil issue.

Know the difference.

It's actually a criminal act and offense to enter and reside in any nation without documentation and authorisation.

Except the laws and rules have magically changed overnight.

Imagine if such a person is caught in places like Saudi Arabia or China... Will there even be room for grammar or courtesy?!!

That's akin to a stranger or outsider coming into a community in the pre-colonial era, and blending with others for a while... How do you think he would be treated when found out?!

As extreme as the deportees were treated, I sense the U.S officers didn't want to risk violence and suicide during the flight.

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Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by Golan007: 3:38pm On Feb 07, 2025

NothingDoMe:
Even harbouring an illegal immigrant is a criminal offence. Read up the US laws bubba.

2 separate things.

An illegal alien is not a criminal.

Why not show us the law that states that such a person is a criminal?

Quite easy to do if true.

Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by Juan13: 3:39pm On Feb 07, 2025

Let them chain them very well I remember during my MBA program there at noida university that’s how they did to my fellow Nigerians without paper breaking they doors and packing them in a bus like sardines.Indians don’t deserve pity I’m telling you my honest truth ..trump did very well to them .light my weed in peace am outer here

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Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by mclloyd22(m): 3:39pm On Feb 07, 2025

AImiron:
Source: CNN

You do the same to illegally migrated Nigerians even bully them and that’s why some of them jump from your high building apartments.

Just Collect your fair share in peace.

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Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by Angelfrost(m): 3:39pm On Feb 07, 2025

NothingDoMe:
💯. A few attempt suicide that would take their lives or the lives of others around them.

Precisely!

We have seen reports of Nigerians jumping to their deaths rather than being deported from some Asian nations.

Some even got violent in-flight and if they were not restrained would have caused the plane to crash.

The Officials have little to no choice in this matter...!

Handcuffing illegals during deportation is not something new.

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Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by Golan007: 3:39pm On Feb 07, 2025

Angelfrost:
It's actually a criminal act and offense to enter and reside in any nation without documentation and authorisation.

Except the laws and rules have magically changed overnight.

Imagine if such a person is caught in places like Saudi Arabia or China... Will there even be room for grammar or courtesy?!!

That's akin to a stranger or outsider coming into a community in the pre-colonial era, and blending with others for a while... How do you think he would be treated when found out?!

As extreme as the deportees were treated, I sense the U.S officers didn't want to risk violence and suicide during the flight.

It is not a criminal offence, certainly not in US.

If true, produce such documentation.

I know you wouldn't be able to.

We'll spend minutes and minutes even hours and hours on this matter.

Produce a document that says so.

Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by NothingDoMe: 3:40pm On Feb 07, 2025

Golan007:
2 separate things.

An illegal alien is not a criminal.

Why not show us the law that states that such a person is a criminal?

Quite easy to do if true.

I nor dey show una anything again. All the education i give una na insult naim una take dey pay me back. 😁

Use goggle or advise the respective countries to take America to the ICC since you believe they have a case.

Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by KanuSE: 3:41pm On Feb 07, 2025

Golan007:
Residing in a country is not a criminal issue.

It is a civil issue.

Know the difference.

What's your take on residing illegally in a foreign country, is it a crime or not?

Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by Golan007: 3:42pm On Feb 07, 2025

KanuSE:
What's your take on residing illegally in a foreign country, is it a crime or not?

I would say, in Americ, it is not a crime.

That's what this is about.

Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by Angelfrost(m): 3:42pm On Feb 07, 2025

Golan007:
It is not a criminal offence, certainly in US.

If true, produce such documentation.

I know you wouldn't be able to.

We'll spend minutes and minutes even hours and hours on this matter.

Produce a document that says so.

Lol... I don't need to.

Same way I won't ask you to produce a document that clearly states it isn't.

My point remains... Restraining these people is not necessarily because they are even viewed as criminals.

They are restrained for their own safety and more importantly, the safety of the flight officials and crew members.

This is not something new or strange.

Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by seunayantokun(m): 3:45pm On Feb 07, 2025

Illegal immigration is a crime. Avoid it.

Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by Angelfrost(m): 3:46pm On Feb 07, 2025

SoftSport:
It's really heartbreaking to hear how these people were treated like criminals just for seeking a better life. No one goes through such dangerous journeys without desperation driving them. I hope both governments find a more humane way to handle such situations. 🥴

The only room for such sentiments is WAR...

...and even then, you have to actually apply for asylum/refugee, be properly vetted and approved prior to entering the nations.

Seeking a better life is good but should be done lawfully... There really is no excuse for messing up another nation's immigration process and adding to their population woes.

Desperation is no excuse for illegality.

Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by lekonso: 3:47pm On Feb 07, 2025

Immatex:
So illegally residing in a foreign country is not criminal enough to be shackled?

You are a stack illiterate

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Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by Arostar2023: 3:49pm On Feb 07, 2025

zoedew:
Just go back home and make India Great! Appeal to pity won’t cut ice with the discerning. Trump is acting right on this immigration matter. The world should sooner be a better place to live in when leaders and citizens work hard to make their space prosperous. Enough of living off America!

If not for the same problems that plague third world countries, India has what takes to be another China. For goodness sake, India even has nuclear warheads.

Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by deeway200(m): 3:50pm On Feb 07, 2025

Immatex:
So illegally residing in a foreign country is not criminal enough to be shackled?

Why are you like this now? This is a very bad way to treat humans

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Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by VicM6: 3:50pm On Feb 07, 2025*

But Emeka came back home last year with timber land boot and long chains on his neck bragging he owns America and can never be deported....
Last week friday, Emeka was deported to Colombia thinking he was a Colombian.....Emeka still brags he will venture in to drugs business....
Emeka is a hero like Tinubu and Buhari

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Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by Ewedegubbler: 3:53pm On Feb 07, 2025

Golan007:
Residing in a country is not a criminal issue.

It is a civil issue.

Know the difference.

Why not go to India snd and become an illegal
Immigrant there ?

Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by ValarDoharis: 3:57pm On Feb 07, 2025

You just changed the goalpost

NothingDoMe:
Even harbouring an illegal immigrant is a criminal offence. Read up the US laws bubba.

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Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by Golan007: 3:59pm On Feb 07, 2025

Ewedegubbler:
Why not go to India snd and become an illegal
Immigrant there ?

Why didn't your brother, Oliver Ugochukwu, who was caught with hard drugs in India tell you?

Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by Golan007: 3:59pm On Feb 07, 2025

ValarDoharis:
You just changed the goalpost

That's what they do.

He thought he had a gotcha.

grin

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Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by SoliBayNG: 4:01pm On Feb 07, 2025

Golan007:
Residing in a country is not a criminal issue.

It is a civil issue.

Know the difference.

According to the American law, residing in their country illegally is a CRIMINAL OFFENSE. Criminals don't have any right. It can be a misdemeanor or felony. Depending on the case.

Moreso, ICEs primary target is violent criminals/people that ran away from countries with prior criminal records aka Harderned Criminals in Nigeria.

When others see it, it will serve as a deterrent. Some countries have laws.

At least, try and listen to the WH press secretary. Smart woman.

The law prohibiting “improper entry” in the U.S. by noncitizens is found in 8 U.S. Code § 1325 and the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA). This legal code stipulates a fine or imprisonment for any migrant who “(1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact.”

Dude said it's a civil issue. Hahaha. This uneducated post made my day. Thanks for the laugh.

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Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by oxygeng: 4:02pm On Feb 07, 2025

Immatex:
I am not jobless to be arguing over nothing.

If you want to be treated with dignity, act with dignity!

shut up, you are intellectually bankrupt.

Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by Solsix(m): 4:07pm On Feb 07, 2025

Immatex:
So illegally residing in a foreign country is not criminal enough to be shackled?

Even on a plane? Common, that's too much

Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by Golan007: 4:07pm On Feb 07, 2025

SoliBayNG:
According to the American law, residing in their country illegally is a CRIMINAL OFFENSE. Criminals don't have any right. It can be a misdemeanor or felony. Depending on the case.

Moreso, ICEs primary target is violent criminals/people that ran away from countries with prior criminal records aka Harderned Criminals in Nigeria.

When others see it, it will serve as a deterrent. Some countries have laws.

At least, try and listen to the WH press secretary. Smart woman.

The law prohibiting “improper entry” in the U.S. by noncitizens is found in 8 U.S. Code § 1325 and the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA). This legal code stipulates a fine or imprisonment for any migrant who “(1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact.”

Dude said it's a civil issue. Hahaha. This uneducated post made my day. Thanks for the laugh.

No. The act of being present in the United States in violation of the immigration laws is not, standing alone, a crime. While federal immigration law does criminalize some actions that may be related to undocumented presence in the United States, undocumented presence alone is not a violation of federal criminal law.

Crimes for Which Migrants are Prosecuted
Physical presence in the United States without proper authorization is a civil violation, rather than a criminal offense. This means that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) can place a person in removal (deportation) proceedings and can require payment of a fine, but the federal government cannot charge the person with a criminal offense unless they have previously been ordered deported and reentered in violation of that deportation order. Likewise, a person who enters the United States on a valid visa and stays longer than permitted may be put in removal proceedings but cannot face federal criminal charges based solely on this civil infraction.

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Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by lacicrips(m): 4:14pm On Feb 07, 2025

Golan007:
Residing in a country is not a criminal issue.

It is a civil issue.

Know the difference.

Illegal entry is criminal, not civil.

Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by DrAda(f): 4:14pm On Feb 07, 2025*

Namaster:
Trump called them VERMINS.

That means they are in the same class as RATS.
And the people carrying out his orders will treat them as such.

FOOLS don't know what they've done.

Trump has ZERO charisma!
His entire APPEAL to his base is that he gives them the go ahead to be their WORST selves.

He shows them that it's GOOD to be BAD.

Obama raised the bar TOO HIGH.
His existence compels people to strive to be better.
He made it seem like success hinged on being suave, charming, intelligent and eloquent.

The fact that he was black made it even WORSE!

A black man took the standards of the American society into the stratosphere.

Trump brought it back into the GUTTER.
And he's NOT stopping.

Obama made people introspective and want to be better, Trump said you can NEVER be bad enough. Especially if you are white.

Trying to be like Obama is HARD.
Trying to be like Trump is EASY.

And Trump's base is full of people who like to take the EASY way out.

Uneducated people who think they should be making MORE money than immigrant Software Engineers LOOOVE Trump.

That's why when Trump shiiits on immigrants, it gives them orgasms.

So EVERYTHING Trump is doing right now is GOLDEN.

The more HORRIBLE immigrants are treated, the more FANATICAL they become.

So immigrants and ALL people of colour should get ready, RACISM is cool now.

The biggest FOOLS in the last US election are WHITE WOMEN and People of Colour who voted for Trump.

White women practically provided empirical evidence as to why women are often called FISHBRAIN.

53% of white women VOTED for Trump.
A sexual predator whose main victims are WHITE WOMEN.

Now, Trump is systematically ROLLING back the rights of people whom he deems LESSER.

Right now, it's the illegal immigrants. Soon it'll be LEGAL immigrants. Then it'll be AMERICAN citizens of the WRONG shades.

Finally, it'll be the turn of white women.

Democrats got SCREWED in the last election because they made the FATAL mistake of TRUSTING women.

I see this happening this year. The law will be reversed and those Legally staying in America will lose their jobs and be deported as well.

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Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by Golan007: 4:15pm On Feb 07, 2025

lacicrips:
Illegal entry is criminal, not civil.

I wrote RESIDING.

I'm quite clear and purposeful when I write.

Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by lacicrips(m): 4:16pm On Feb 07, 2025

Golan007:
I wrote RESIDING.

I'm quite clear and purposeful when I write.

You’d have to enter to reside. So it’s both civil and criminal.

Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by Golan007: 4:17pm On Feb 07, 2025

Namaster:
Trump called them VERMINS.

That means they are in the same class as RATS.
And the people carrying out his orders will treat them as such.

FOOLS don't know what they've done.

Trump has ZERO charisma!
His entire APPEAL to his base is that he gives them the go ahead to be their WORST selves.

He shows them that it's GOOD to be BAD.

Obama raised the bar TOO HIGH.
His existence compels people to strive to be better.
He made it seem like success hinged on being suave, charming, intelligent and eloquent.

The fact that he was black made it even WORSE!

A black man took the standards of the American society into the stratosphere.

Trump brought it back into the GUTTER.
And he's NOT stopping.

Obama made people introspective and want to be better, Trump said you can NEVER be bad enough. Especially if you are white.

Trying to be like Obama is HARD.
Trying to be like Trump is EASY.

And Trump's base is full of people who like to take the EASY way out.

Uneducated people who think they should be making MORE money than immigrant Software Engineers LOOOVE Trump.

That's why when Trump shiiits on immigrants, it gives them orgasms.

So EVERYTHING Trump is doing right now is GOLDEN.

The more HORRIBLE immigrants are treated, the more FANATICAL they become.

So immigrants and ALL people of colour should get ready, RACISM is cool now.

The biggest FOOLS in the last US election are WHITE WOMEN and People of Colour who voted for Trump.

White women practically provided empirical evidence as to why women are often called FISHBRAIN.

53% of white women VOTED for Trump.
A sexual predator whose main victims are WHITE WOMEN.

Now, Trump is systematically ROLLING back the rights of people whom he deems LESSER.

Right now, it's the illegal immigrants. Soon it'll be LEGAL immigrants. Then it'll be AMERICAN citizens of the WRONG shades.

Finally, it'll be the turn of white women.

Democrats got SCREWED in the last election because they made the FATAL mistake of TRUSTING women.

You've said it all.

Unfortunately, our black folk are still sleeping and hypnotised by issues relating to Trans people.

Re: 'Treated Like Criminals’: Shackling Of Indians Aboard 40-hour Migrant Flight by Golan007: 4:21pm On Feb 07, 2025

lacicrips:
You’d have to enter to reside. So it’s both civil and criminal.

Once again you need to understand.

If Chigbo, got admission to study at the University of Utah, obtained a student visa, he hasn't entered illegally.

If he skips school and engages in business instead, he hasn't committed a criminal act.

If he overstays his visa, he hasn't committed a criminal act.

If Okpara can find hide in a box or a ship, evading immigration, he has committed a criminal act, likely a misdemeanor and not even a felony.

Know the difference.

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