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Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by KnowAll(op): 4:38am On Feb 09, 2025
Just wondering why our Governors cannot hire women and men to clean the streets between 12:00 and 06:00 to make it look good in the morning. It is not rocket science. Most streets are full of dust, I think our leaders can do better.
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by mrvitalis(m): 5:36am On Feb 09, 2025
KnowAll:
Just wondering why our Governors cannot hire women and men to clean the streets between 12:00 and 06:00 to make it look good in the morning. It is not rocket science. Most streets are full of dust, I think our leaders can do better.
We don't generate enough tax

If you are asked to pay housing tax of 800k every month to have your streets like that would you?

Estates in Nigeria that pay service charge have super clean and landscaped streets too

Nigerians just want nice things for free
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by NaMe4: 6:31am On Feb 09, 2025
KnowAll:
Just wondering why our Governors cannot hire women and men to clean the streets between 12:00 and 06:00 to make it look good in the morning. It is not rocket science. Most streets are full of dust, I think our leaders can do better.
It's done in many States in Nigeria.

The problem is many Nigerians choose to live lawlessly. A full grown adult would throw wraps and even food remnants out of moving vehicles, full grown adults would stand close to the road to urinate, etc.

Unfortunately, environmental law enforcement in many parts of Nigeria is almost nonexistent.
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by Baxilexi(m): 6:52am On Feb 09, 2025
Can we jettison this rhetoric about Nigerians not paying enough taxes. I assert that Nigerians are one of the most taxed people in the world. A large portion is through unofficial channels.

In every other country I’ve visited taxes are fixed, everyone has a statutory 3-4 monthly tax to be paid and not a single dime afterwards

An example; Nigeria is the only country I’ve visited that has no clear cut paid and unpaid parking area.

At the airport, I’ve never had to pay for flying with food items or the use of a trolley but in Nigeria.

I’ve never had to pay for taking stuff out of the market in any other country but Nigeria.

I’ve never witnessed thugs on the roadside collecting money trucks carrying sand and containers anywhere else but in Nigeria.

Small scale businesses are not spared, a keke ride once told me that aside government statutory levies, they and okada riders pay between 1500 and 3000k daily (over 6 years ago btw) before they commence work.

I’ve never witnessed the police anywhere else extorting motorists in broad daylight like in Nigeria.

I’m yet to witness the plethora of bank changes in other countries like Nigeria.

The list goes on and on, the painful part is what is being done with all the generated revenue? The landscape appears worse even with increased IGR.

In Fashola and Ambode’s time in Lagos the streets were cleaned frequently without fail.

Btw, if minimum wage and basic salaries are viable Nigerians will pay taxes conveniently and still have leftover for livelihood.

mrvitalis:
We don't generate enough tax

If you are asked to pay housing tax of 800k every month to have your streets like that would you?

Estates in Nigeria that pay service charge have super clean and landscaped streets too

Nigerians just want nice things for free
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by Baxilexi(m): 6:58am On Feb 09, 2025
NaMe4:
It's done in many States in Nigeria.

The problem is many Nigerians choose to live lawlessly. A full grown adult would throw wraps and even food remnants out of moving vehicles, full grown adults would stand close to the road to urinate, etc.

Unfortunately, environmental law enforcement in many parts of Nigeria is almost nonexistent.
What is the volume of public dumpsters and dustbins we have in public spaces?

Please take note when you drive on a street the amount of waste storage devices we have, compare it to some other countries and you’ll realize it a government issue not Nigerians.

With out population there should be a refuse bin or dumpster at least 100m from one another.
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by tolugar: 7:19am On Feb 09, 2025
KnowAll:
Just wondering why our Governors cannot hire women and men to clean the streets between 12:00 and 06:00 to make it look good in the morning. It is not rocket science. Most streets are full of dust, I think our leaders can do better.
In a country where there is no street light?

In a country where there are stray dogs?

In a country they kidnap randomly?

In a country full of skull miners?


I can go on and on but it will be difficult to achieve.

There are things to put in place for that to happen but let me tell you that street sweepers no longer exist in modern world

There are vehicles that clean the streets at night and it will be a more humane investment than our venerable women
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by njelrapheal: 7:52am On Feb 09, 2025
mrvitalis:
We don't generate enough tax

If you are asked to pay housing tax of 800k every month to have your streets like that would you?

Estates in Nigeria that pay service charge have super clean and landscaped streets too

Nigerians just want nice things for free
Nigeria is rich enough to have these bro. Take old Libya as an example
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by owobokiri(m): 8:42am On Feb 09, 2025
KnowAll:
Just wondering why our Governors cannot hire women and men to clean the streets between 12:00 and 06:00 to make it look good in the morning. It is not rocket science. Most streets are full of dust, I think our leaders can do better.
I have always wondered why they can't do this too.
I mean, all these women and men that line up the streets begging everyday, they can be used to clean the streets and keep them tidy, while the people atw encouraged to pay a small rate.

That's exactly what the Chinese do. Every morning before 5 am, they are already done with the cleanings, and you will wake up to a very clean and good smelling street. They get paid which helps to keep them off the streets begging.

The issue of dusts is just an eyesore. Every road in Nigeria has loads of sands packed by the side. Start today to check this. And this is so because from year to year, no one tries to clean up the place. It makes the whole place look tacky and dirty.

Next is the open gutters and stewpid solar street lights that pack up few hours after installations. Standards should be raised and maintained in terms of how the streets are designed and managed. Very easy problems to solve but the government contineus to act unconcerned..
Crazy!
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by owobokiri(m): 8:47am On Feb 09, 2025
mrvitalis:
We don't generate enough tax

If you are asked to pay housing tax of 800k every month to have your streets like that would you?

Estates in Nigeria that pay service charge have super clean and landscaped streets too

Nigerians just want nice things for free
This is not a question of tax.
It is about wrong policies, inexperienced government officials and lack of good standards..
People will pay if you are delivering. But you don't have to over tax the people too.

I mean sanitation agencies across states boldly collect rates and charges without doing anything reasonable to clean up the streets. They lack trainings and infrastructural supports to do their jobs in a more modern way.

Headless chickens in government. That's the problem
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by mrvitalis(m): 9:32am On Feb 09, 2025
njelrapheal:
Nigeria is rich enough to have these bro. Take old Libya as an example
Libya had Ekiti population with Nigerians oil production

Bros who taught u guys economics please
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by History555: 9:55am On Feb 09, 2025
mrvitalis:
We don't generate enough tax

If you are asked to pay housing tax of 800k every month to have your streets like that would you?

Estates in Nigeria that pay service charge have super clean and landscaped streets too

Nigerians just want nice things for free
But there is money to buy million dollars mansion in Hamptons, there is money to buy private jets, rolls royce, Bentley but once it comes to what will be beneficial to Nigerians, boom you start hearing there is no money, your tax is low bla bla bla
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by Sheuns(m): 10:09am On Feb 09, 2025
mrvitalis:
We don't generate enough tax

If you are asked to pay housing tax of 800k every month to have your streets like that would you?

Estates in Nigeria that pay service charge have super clean and landscaped streets too

Nigerians just want nice things for free
How much taxes do South Africans pay?
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by mrvitalis(m): 10:32am On Feb 09, 2025
Sheuns:
How much taxes do South Africans pay?
Property tax I know is 1 percent the value of the house

So if you leave in a 50 million house u pay 500k yearly
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by KnowAll(op): 10:32am On Feb 09, 2025
They don’t have to give them minimum wage maybe 5 000 per night and they do may be 3 nights a week. That would suck majority of those people begging for money on our streets.
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by mrvitalis(m): 10:33am On Feb 09, 2025
History555:
But there is money to buy million dollars mansion in Hamptons, there is money to buy private jets, rolls royce, Bentley but once it comes to what will be beneficial to Nigerians, boom you start hearing there is no money, your tax is low bla bla bla
Yea for less than 500 people... But for 220 million people common
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by Sheuns(m): 10:52am On Feb 09, 2025
mrvitalis:
Property tax I know is 1 percent the value of the house

So if you leave in a 50 million house u pay 500k yearly
Why did you say Nigerians should pay 800K monthly in taxes?
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by mrvitalis(m): 11:00am On Feb 09, 2025
Sheuns:
Why did you say Nigerians should pay 800K monthly in taxes?
It was just an example... Oga if you stay in an 80 million house why not
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by oyatz(m): 1:35pm On Feb 09, 2025
mrvitalis:
Libya had Ekiti population with Nigerians oil production

Bros who taught u guys economics please
Most Nigerians are deeply entitled and deeply ignorant.
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:26pm On Feb 09, 2025
mrvitalis:
We don't generate enough tax

If you are asked to pay housing tax of 800k every month to have your streets like that would you?

Estates in Nigeria that pay service charge have super clean and landscaped streets too

Nigerians just want nice things for free
Government does not invest massively in building people. That is the thing. You think these countries that generate heavy tax leave the people to wallow in poverty?

What major investment have our government done to cause massive growth for small and medium scale entrepreneurs. Even power is rocket science for them. War on food insecurity is Oxford university PhD thesis.

Government officials can get everything free, loot the wealth made for fighting poverty, then blame the people for wanting things free. Please.
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:28pm On Feb 09, 2025
mrvitalis:
Yea for less than 500 people... But for 220 million people common
There is money for 21billion house for Vice President but no money for street sweepers. grin
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:29pm On Feb 09, 2025
mrvitalis:
Yea for less than 500 people... But for 220 million people common
More reason why government need to invest in fighting poverty than on their luxuries.
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by mrvitalis(m): 3:35pm On Feb 09, 2025
TheGoodJoe:
More reason why government need to invest in fighting poverty than on their luxuries.
What's a poor man business with landscaped streets?

If you want good things pay for it
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by mrvitalis(m): 3:35pm On Feb 09, 2025
TheGoodJoe:
There is money for 21billion house for Vice President but no money for street sweepers. grin
21 billion can't pay road sweepers for 1 month sir
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by mrvitalis(m): 3:36pm On Feb 09, 2025
TheGoodJoe:
Government does not invest massively in building people. That is the thing. You think these countries that generate heavy tax leave the people to wallow in poverty?

What major investment have our government done to cause massive growth for small and medium scale entrepreneurs. Even power is rocket science for them. War on food insecurity is Oxford university PhD thesis.

Government officials can get everything free, loot the wealth made for fighting poverty, then blame the people for wanting things free. Please.
Oga pay tax if you want good road and street network simple

Nigerians don't want to to pay tax but want good environment Lmaooo
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:54pm On Feb 09, 2025
mrvitalis:
Oga pay tax if you want good road and street network simple

Nigerians don't want to to pay tax but want good environment Lmaooo

Nigerians pay taxes. Maybe you don't know. At least I have handled taxes for companies and see companies spend millions yearly on tax. What happens to it?

Don't you know Nigerians are taxed for every phone transfer they make? POS dealers are taxed too. Even when purchases are made in companies, taxes are made. Companies deduct taxes from workers before salaries too.

Biggest lie is to believe Nigerians don't pay tax. What about the tickets commercial drivers pay daily? Don't you know those are still taxes?

Please.
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:56pm On Feb 09, 2025
mrvitalis:
21 billion can't pay road sweepers for 1 month sir
But, it is spent for one person's luxury.

21 billion will pay 100,000 workers N210,000 in a month.
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:57pm On Feb 09, 2025
mrvitalis:
What's a poor man business with landscaped streets?

If you want good things pay for it
Nigerians have paid for it and got nothing. What did the corrupt politicians pay for?
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by mrvitalis(m): 6:08pm On Feb 09, 2025
TheGoodJoe:
Nigerians have paid for it and got nothing. What did the corrupt politicians pay for?
Average Nigerians pays less than 20k per year in tax... And trust me u get more than 20k worth of value
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by mrvitalis(m): 6:08pm On Feb 09, 2025
TheGoodJoe:
But, it is spent for one person's luxury.

21 billion will pay 100,000 workers N210,000 in a month.
After that month what next?
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by mrvitalis(m): 6:09pm On Feb 09, 2025
TheGoodJoe:

Nigerians pay taxes. Maybe you don't know. At least I have handled taxes for companies and see companies spend millions yearly on tax. What happens to it?

Don't you know Nigerians are taxed for every phone transfer they make? POS dealers are taxed too. Even when purchases are made in companies, taxes are made. Companies deduct taxes from workers before salaries too.

Biggest lie is to believe Nigerians don't pay tax. What about the tickets commercial drivers pay daily? Don't you know those are still taxes?

Please.
Our revenue from tax is less than 10 trillion infact is 5 trillion thats comes out to 22k per year is that what you call tax?
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:13pm On Feb 09, 2025
mrvitalis:
Our revenue from tax is less than 10 trillion infact is 5 trillion thats comes out to 22k per year is that what you call tax?
No, it is dash for politicians spending. Not for investment in the growth of the economy. Is that not a big reason why government should do more with the money in investing in critical areas than you telling the Nigerians being strangled by government wastage to not expect anything.

Please.
Re: Saw Ndukwu In South Africa On A Very Clean Street??? by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:14pm On Feb 09, 2025
mrvitalis:
Average Nigerians pays less than 20k per year in tax... And trust me u get more than 20k worth of value
What about the companies, shops, banks etc. What is being done with the taxes? All big multinational companies pay taxes.
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