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What do they need me kiss the truth?


quote author=TimeManager post=134074911]We hope this will not degenerate into renewed hostilities. A new logo and anthem is not what the people of Benue State need presently.


-Kiss the truth![/quote]

mastermaestro:
Shariah in the North nkor? Oga, shut up! Tell them in the core north to separate religion from state first before advising Benue state.

Go and tell your father to shut up. Wetin concern this post with Sharia? Am I a Muslim or am I in the North?
If you're stupid, try and check who you're dealing with or you pick a physical location let me rearrange you.

yeshuasfootstep:
Stupidity.

You created strife and not logo.

When a Muslim comes, he'll remove and put his own.

Africans stupidly holding themselves down with religion when God and nature did not send them.

What do you mean when a Muslim comes?
You should have checked out the demography of the state before commenting. Almost all Benue people are Christians.

9japride:
Why the cross? People who claim to be too religious are usually very wicked.
Why can't they focus on security and providing a conducive environment for business to thrive?

can wee see alliwa logo

spencekat:
Corel Draw can be used to design logo naa.

I was thinking of Microsoft Paint

The black race, I hail thee...

9japride:
Why the cross? People who claim to be too religious are usually very wicked.
Why can't they focus on security and providing a conducive environment for business to thrive?

The cross needs to be there cause benue is the only true christian state in north central

omniwater:
That cross on the logo is a no no.


He crossed the line with that cross.



Are there no Muslims and traditionalists in that state?

My friend keep quiet, benue is a Christian state

jmichael259:
Cross Ke? Absolutely not.
Separation of state and religion at all levels.
In fact if the arms of government were actually doing their checks and balances, he'd be standing on thin ice right now to be booted out.

Booted out by who? Benue is a Christian state

jmichael259:
Go and tell your father to shut up. Wetin concern this post with Sharia? Am I a Muslim or am I in the North?
If you're stupid, try and check who you're dealing with or you pick a physical location let me rearrange you.

Every mouse is a cat online. Go sleep jor.

JAWBONE:
I was thinking of Microsoft Paint

Ok

omniwater:
That cross on the logo is a no no.


He crossed the line with that cross.



Are there no Muslims and traditionalists in that state?

He's a reverend father and venue people are almost all Christians...so no problem...but they have more serious issues to deal with for now...he's not taking actions like the Niger state man who has been busy creating alliances and encouraging agricultural development in Nifer state....I wonder why the food basket of the nation wants to become the leader in arts and culture...complete misalignment values

9japride:
Why the cross? People who claim to be too religious are usually very wicked.
Why can't they focus on security and providing a conducive environment for business to thrive?

Religious symbolism have no place in a secular state.
Nigerians don't even understand the concept of state and religion and why they must be separate

SatoshiX:
The fulani hegemony is getting dismantled day by day.
Gradually all the minority groups in the north will wake up and take their destiny by their hands.

What about the traditionalist, to the best of my knowledge Benue has some Tapa people on its borders and many of them are animist.

SatoshiX:
If Kano, Zamfara, Sokoto, Katsina etc can be a. Muslim state, why can't Benue be a Christian state? Majority of them in that state are staunch catholics.

But none of those states are Muslim states, not one.
The majority of its citizens are Muslims yet at no time has the state been declared Muslim state. The Nigerian constitution makes it illegal

sagitariusbaby:
Benue is 98 percent Christian, who are those complaining about the cross? But the core North can adopt Islam as a state religion but Benue can't, whoever isn't cool with the cross can cross to sambisa.

No state has adopted a state religion and whatever governor has done so has flouted the laws

Jlow2:
The man got balls, Ortom was a thorn in the flesh of Fulani herdsmen, with little resources and benue being an agriculture state there was nothing much he could do, most of the things that make up benue farming fishing solid minerals happen in rural areas, in that is were you find this Fulani terrorists, why Alia is not been frustrated is because we dnt have buhari at the center, good one from Alia , all terrorists must be eliminated and fished out by any means possible and in what ever guise they hide.

POINT OF CORRECTION
Ortom never meant good for anyone in that state.
The worst greed in human history is Ortom.
No even mention his name

Afrojuju2017:
Religious symbolism have no place in a secular state.
Nigerians don't even understand the concept of state and religion and why they must be separate

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They don't. Money wasted on religious activities is enough to set some positive investment.

Mrfeel:
The cross needs to be there cause benue is the only true christian state in north central

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Any religious symbols shouldn't be in any state. Except if those region are an independent country.

Zulu11zulu:
can wee see alliwa logo

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Did you mean Arewa? It's all about conquest.

Where is the old one? Let me place them side by side and do a thorough comparism.

Afrojuju2017:
No state has adopted a state religion and whatever governor has done so has flouted the laws

stop being ridiculous. No state has adopted religion yet sharia Is official rooted in the core North, hisba religious police is everywhere destroying alcohol and dictating lifestyle for the people of those states yet no state has adopted any religion. Were you blind when Northern governors allocated huge resources to building mosques and other Islamic religious places?

sagitariusbaby:
stop being ridiculous. No state has adopted religion yet sharia Is official rooted in the core North, hisba religious police is everywhere destroying alcohol and dictating lifestyle for the people of those states yet no state has adopted any religion. Were you blind when Northern governors allocated huge resources to building mosques and other Islamic religious places?

A governor from the aouthr east also built a mega dome, I think Umahi. Aregbe also wanted to build a mega chapel around the ife-ilesha axis because according to him there a lot Christian religious leaders who came from that area.

It is all nonsensical and senseless use of public funds. And sharia is not an official law in the North, I know you don't like the truth, it's because of people like you that hisbah exist and continue to flout human rights.

Mrfeel:
Booted out by who? Benue is a Christian state

All states are secular states.

mastermaestro:
Every mouse is a cat online. Go sleep jor.

I've given you much attention already. You might just as well be one of these genz scrubs.

9japride:
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Any religious symbols shouldn't be in any state. Except if those region are an independent country.

Is the north an independent region to ban alcoholic drinks? Against the Nigerian constitution?

jmichael259:
All states are secular states.

All states are secular states but some states are so religious that alcohol is banned?

Mrfeel:
All states are secular states but some states are so religious that alcohol is banned?

All states are secular but almost all states are so religious that abortion or homo is banned.
*And yes, I stand against those things but I had to mention them because secularly, there's no reason to ban them. The only reason they're banned is because of the religious feelings of people. That is the same reason alcohol is banned.
*None of this changes the fact that this country and all 36 states +FCT are secular states entities. Will you be saying the same when the Muslims and Traditionalists start pressing their own demands and installing their own items?
You and I know say their own no dey easy to handle.

jmichael259:
All states are secular but almost all states are so religious that abortion or homo is banned.
*And yes, I stand against those things but I had to mention them because secularly, there's no reason to ban them. The only reason they're banned is because of the religious feelings of people. That is the same reason alcohol is banned.
*None of this changes the fact that this country and all 36 states +FCT are secular states entities. Will you be saying the same when the Muslims and Traditionalists start pressing their own demands and installing their own items?
You and I know say their own no dey easy to handle.

There is a limit to Nigeria's secularism, no matter how you put it, the foundation of Nigeria itself is religious based, Nigeria and Nigerians put religion, ethnicity above everything that concerns Nigeria, abortion and homo is a national ban , and all over the country you will come across laws that are influenced by Islam, Christianity and traditional beliefs etc, recently the oba of Benin banned his subjects from wearing some traditional attires he claims were only to be worn by royal members of the Benin not ordinary Benin subjects

Mrfeel:
Is the north an independent region to ban alcoholic drinks? Against the Nigerian constitution?

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That's quite unfortunate. They enjoy all the benefits from alcohol production.

Afrojuju2017:
A governor from the aouthr east also built a mega dome, I think Umahi. Aregbe also wanted to build a mega chapel around the ife-ilesha axis because according to him there a lot Christian religious leaders who came from that area.

It is all nonsensical and senseless use of public funds. And sharia is not an official law in the North, I know you don't like the truth, it's because of people like you that hisbah exist and continue to flout human rights.

how the you mean sharia is not an official law in the North when the immediate past Chief judge 9f the Suppreme Court was drafted from the Sharia court of appeal?

sagitariusbaby:
how the you mean sharia is not an official law in the North when the immediate past Chief judge 9f the Suppreme Court was drafted from the Sharia court of appeal?

There is no Sharia law in its essence, however the constitution guarantee freedom of association and also recognises customary courts for the settlement of civil disputes such as inheritances, marriage etc . It is this some political operatives and religious zealots have used to mislead and abuse the rights of citizens by calling it sharia law.

OBJ really didn't allow the then Zamfara governor to establish "sharia law" rather he couldn't have stopped the implementation of customary courts in a state, which uses the principles of sharia in civil arbitration.

If an individual steals a chicken and the hands are cut off, or an individual is assaulted because of infidelity then their rights have been breached by whomever including the state and should be encouraged to seek redress in a court of law.

The kings across Nigeria entertain disputes in their courts and deliver/suggest a decision according to the customs of the people,
e.g. females are excluded from inheriting their fathers in sections of southern Nigeria because of customs thou some cases in court have undone some of this legacy in recent years, in the court of the Emirate of Kano there exist a sharia council to delibrate over civil cases too, how traditions allow for this however those powers of arbitration stop in civil matters and an individual who is not satisfied can still seek restitution in a magistrate or high court.

The issue of dispute is most often land, marriage and inheritance

The people saying there can't be sharia councils arbitrating in South west unfortunately don't understand the provisions of the constitution, while I'd rather not have duplicity of avenues for resolution of civic disputes as we already have traditional chiefs and kings I can't deny a group of people to settle marriage, divorce, inheritance, land disputes and informal agreements according to their recognised religious principles, the only solution is for all Christians like myself to surrender the authority of the church such as solemnisation of marriage to the state.