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AntilsIam:
No Muslim migrated, this is a group defending themselves against your seleka members that are waging war on them

According to a report by Amnesty International titled “Erased identity: Muslims in ethnically cleansed areas of the Central African Republic,” many Muslims are being compelled to abandon their faith due to threats from armed groups, particularly the anti-balaka militia. These militias have been known to ban public displays of Islam, including prayers and traditional Muslim clothing.

Forced Conversions and Threats

The situation is critical for those who try to practice their religion openly. Reports suggest that some individuals have been coerced into converting to Christianity under the threat of death. For instance, a 23-year-old man from the Sangha-Mbaéré prefecture shared that he felt he had no option but to join the Catholic Church because anti-balaka members threatened to kill him if he refused.

https://www.amnesty.nl/actueel/car-unprotected-muslims-forced-to-abandon-religion

https://www.pulse.ng/articles/nigeria-religion/in-central-african-republic-muslims-forced-to-flee-for-fear-of-being-erased-by-2024080901383172454

AntilsIam:
You circumbulate the shrine of kaaba half naked 7 times which hindu paganism also do by circumbulates their shrine called pradakshina, which means walking around a sacred image or shrine in a clockwise direction as a form of devotion and prayer

Don't be silly. You will see Muslims circumambulate only the Kaaba while Hindu do this for anything of choice.

The directions differ.

Muslims do this strictly 7 times while the Hindu do this from 3 to 108 times.

Are they the same or you are just silly or wasting resources in valueless jest?

Read up your church history and see they have used and still use lamps.

The presence of a sanctuary lamp is a traditional custom that can be traced back to ancient Jewish traditions. Early Christians adopted this practice as a symbolic representation of Christ's eternal presence. Originally, oil lamps were used, but over time, candles became the preferred choice. Today, the sanctuary lamp continues to be an important fixture in churches worldwide.

You may have noticed that these lamps come in different colors. Each color holds its own symbolic significance based on individual church practices.

Such as Red used to depict the Presence of Christ's Body and Blood
It serves as a powerful reminder for believers to reflect on the immense love and sacrifice of Christ. Oh how symbolic the psychological disillusionary control of the pagan blood sacrifice concept

Blue: The Virgin Mary
In certain Christian denominations you may find blue sanctuary lamps. Blue is associated with purity and is often used to honor Mary, who is considered the Mother of God. This color choice reflects her role as a holy figure in these traditions.

White: Purity and Holiness

AntilsIam:
You will just copy link without going through the context..

The Anti-balaka is an alliance of militia groups based in the Central African Republic in the early 21st century said by the Guardian to be composed primarily of Christians, but also some Muslims.

Your fellow slaves are among them so why giving yourself unnecessary headache



FROM THE HISTORY

Some commentators have said that village militias formed in the 1990s to protect against highwaymen were a precursor to the Antibalaka. Unable to provide security throughout the remote areas of the country, President François Bozizé organized, self-protection groups in 2009 to combat crime on the village level; these took the name Antibalaka.

In March 2013, President Bozizé (a Christian) was overthrown by a coup during the Central African Republic Civil War by a mostly Muslim rebel coalition known as Séléka. The leader of the Séléka, Michel Djotodia, became the first Muslim president of the country. With the disbanding of the army by Djotodia, many army members joined the militia, boosting their numbers and helping train them.

Djotodia announced the dissolution of the Séléka in September 2013, but most of the militias refused to disband. The Séléka and the anti-balaka engaged in a cycle of increasing violence.


IN CASE OF NEXT TIME WHEN TALKING ABOUT ANTI-BALAKA, DON'T FORGET TO MENTION YOUR SÉLÉKA. ANTI BALAKA was founded because of SELEKA

While members of Anti-balaka were both Christians and Muslims, members of seleka were ALL MUSLIMS





Muhammad was the first False prophet and an antichrist

The question still stand, go straight to the point I don't want super story


You said I am uncivil bla bla bla because I called you Muslims Idolaters?

The question is, why did your religion copied the ways of hindu paganism if truly you are NOT idolatrous in Islam?




Exodus 20:4–6
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Anyone doing this is an Idolater

I like the way you're answering the guy ohyoudidnt.

He is a typical Muslim, he'll never speak the truth. All those organizations he listed were organizations formed to defend themselves against Islamic terrorist organizations and other attackers. Just like the crusaders who came together to defend themselves against the marauding Ottoman jihadists.

You'll even notice from the names of most of the organizations that they're not offensively organizations that go.out looking for who to kill like the murderous Muslim organizations do.

GothamCities:
I like the way you're answering the guy ohyoudidnt.

He is a typical Muslim, he'll never speak the truth. All those organizations he listed were organizations formed to defend themselves against Islamic terrorist organizations and other attackers. Just like the crusaders who came together to defend themselves against the marauding Ottoman jihadists.

You'll even notice from the names of most of the organizations that they're not offensively organizations that go.out looking for who to kill like the murderous Muslim organizations do.

Same garbage of nonsense. Who are you feeding with your legend of lies?

Alexios was primarily focused on regaining lost imperial territories.
The notion that Emperor Alexios I Komnenos sought Western assistance mainly to protect Christians from the Seljuk Turks is a distorted view.

Although Alexios did request military support from the West, his motivations were rooted more in strategic interests than in concerns over religious persecution.

Context of Alexios' Appeal for Aid

By the late 11th century, the Byzantine Empire found itself in a vulnerable state for
1. Loss of Anatolia
Following the Battle of Manzikert (1071), significant portions of Asia Minor were lost to the Seljuk Turks, greatly diminishing Byzantine authority in its core regions.

2. Internal Struggles

The empire was grappling with civil wars, economic decline, and threats from Norman and Pecheneg invaders.

3. Seljuk Expansion

The newly established Sultanate of Rum represented a direct danger to Constantinople and Byzantine territories.

Sometime in 1095, Alexios dispatched envoys to Pope Urban II during the **Council of Piacenza, asking for mercenary reinforcements to reclaim lost Byzantine lands.
- He was in search of professional soldiers not a large-scale religious crusade.

Pope Urban II’s Response motivated by his own objectives (such as bolstering papal authority, reuniting the Eastern and Western Churches, and redirecting the aggression of European knights into a religious conflict), reframed Alexios’ request into a call for a Holy War, which ultimately led to the First Crusade (1096–1099).

Misinterpretation of Religious Oppression
- Some chroniclers from the Crusade era in the West (like Guibert of Nogent and Robert the Monk) portrayed Alexios' appeal as a desperate plea to rescue oppressed Eastern Christians from Muslim domination.
The reality was more complex:

- Byzantium had coexisted with Muslims for centuries, frequently forming alliances with Muslim leaders.
- While certain Christian communities did experience taxation and restrictions, widespread oppression was not the primary concern.
- Alexios was primarily focused on regaining lost imperial territories.

Ohyoudidnt:
Don't be silly. You will see Muslims circumambulate only the Kaaba while Hindu do this for anything of choice.

The directions differ.

Muslims do this strictly 7 times while the Hindu do this from 3 to 108 times.

Are they the same or you are just silly or wasting resources in valueless jest?

Read up your church history and see they have used and still use lamps.

The presence of a sanctuary lamp is a traditional custom that can be traced back to ancient Jewish traditions. Early Christians adopted this practice as a symbolic representation of Christ's eternal presence. Originally, oil lamps were used, but over time, candles became the preferred choice. Today, the sanctuary lamp continues to be an important fixture in churches worldwide.

You may have noticed that these lamps come in different colors. Each color holds its own symbolic significance based on individual church practices.

Such as Red used to depict the Presence of Christ's Body and Blood
It serves as a powerful reminder for believers to reflect on the immense love and sacrifice of Christ. Oh how symbolic the psychological disillusionary control of the pagan blood sacrifice concept

Blue: The Virgin Mary
In certain Christian denominations you may find blue sanctuary lamps. Blue is associated with purity and is often used to honor Mary, who is considered the Mother of God. This color choice reflects her role as a holy figure in these traditions.

White: Purity and Holiness

Frustration has set him that's why you're beginning insulting your dad.. See I will give it to you back the way and manner you bring it

You are very crazzy to know that both of your follow the same clockwise directions, so what is differ in your direction you this stup!d slave?


There are different numbers for different deities:

1 for Ganapathy, 2 for Soorya(Sun), 3 for Shiva, 4 fir Devi and Vishnu, and 7 for Peepal tree (Sacred tree). Generally these Pradakshina are done in temple in Kerala.

You slaves do circumbulate the shrine and black stone of kaaba half naked, they also do it while half naked. ARE YOU DIFFERENT FROM THEM?

I have many source where Muhammad ate food sacrificed to idol and he also sacrificed animals to his idol


Narrated 'Abdullah: Allah's Apostle said that he met Zaid bin 'Amr Nufail at a place near Baldah and this had happened before Allah's Apostle received the Divine Inspiration. Allah's Apostle presented a dish of meat (that had been offered to him by the pagans) to Zaid bin 'Amr, but Zaid refused to eat of it and then said (to the pagans), "I do not eat of what you slaughter on your stone altars (Ansabs) nor do I eat except that on which Allah's Name has been mentioned on slaughtering." Sahih al-Bukhari 7:407


Furthermore, Ibn al-Kalbi also confirms that Muhammad offered up an ewe to al-Uzza, "in accordance with the religion of the people." (Ibid., p. 127)

Al-'Uzza (the most mighty, Venus, the morning star) had her cult in Nakhlah east of Makkah. According to al-Kalbi, hers was the most venerated idol among the Quraysh, and Muhammad as a young man offered her a sacrifice. (Hitti, History of the Arabs from the Earliest Times to the Present, revised tenth edition, new preface by Walid Khalidi [Palgrave Macmillan, 2002; ISBN: 0-333-63142-0 paperback], p. 99)



The Prophet slaughtered an ewe for one of the idols (nusub min al-ansab); then he roasted it and carried it with him. Then Zayd ibn Amr ibn Nufayl met us in the upper part of the valley; it was one of the hot days of Mecca. When we met we greeted each other with the greeting of the Age of barbarism, in'am sabahan. The Prophet said: "Why do I see you, O son of Amr, hated by your people?" He said, "This (happened) without my being the cause of their hatred; but I found them associating divinities with God and I was reluctant to do the same. I wanted (to worship God according to) the religion of Abraham..." The Prophet said, "Would you like some food?" He said, "Yes." Then the Prophet put before him the (meat of the ewe). He (that is, Zayd ibn Amr) said: "What did you sacrifice to, O Muhammad?"

"He said, "To one of the idols." Zayd then said: "I am not the one to eat anything slaughtered for a divinity other than God." (Al-Kharqushi, Sharaf al-Mustafa, cited in F. E. Peters, Muhammad and the Religion of Islam [State University of New York Press (SUNY), Albany 1994], pp. 126-127)



The Qur’an itself commanded Muslims to continue practicing the pagan rites as part of the religion:

Behold! Safa and Marwa are among the Symbols of Allah. So if those who visit the House in the Season or at other times, should compass them round, it is no sin in them. And if any one obeyeth his own impulse to good, — be sure that Allah is He Who recogniseth and knoweth. Surah al-Baqarah 2:158


YOU ARE IDOLATERS IN ISLAM


Anything you want to say about balaka, bring it out from Britannica since you said Wikipedia is a edited site, so bring your points out from Britannica

Balaka is not a terrorist group, you are a liar for tagging them a terrorist organization. Balaka members are defending themselves against your seleka the Islamic terrorist group waging war on them

GothamCities:
I like the way you're answering the guy ohyoudidnt.

He is a typical Muslim, he'll never speak the truth. All those organizations he listed were organizations formed to defend themselves against Islamic terrorist organizations and other attackers. Just like the crusaders who came together to defend themselves against the marauding Ottoman jihadists.

You'll even notice from the names of most of the organizations that they're not offensively organizations that go.out looking for who to kill like the murderous Muslim organizations do.

The boy is a liar, he shot himself in the foot when he kicked against the link I sent to him to back myself up not knowing that his lies would be exposed

They (slaves of allah) must kill for allah and Muhammad, they want to turn everyone to Idolaters like them by worshipping their deity (allah) that was caged inside the shrine and black stone of kaaba, it will never work, we shall continue exposing him and his fellow slaves

Ohyoudidnt:
According to a report by Amnesty International titled “Erased identity: Muslims in ethnically cleansed areas of the Central African Republic,” many Muslims are being compelled to abandon their faith due to threats from armed groups, particularly the anti-balaka militia. These militias have been known to ban public displays of Islam, including prayers and traditional Muslim clothing.

Forced Conversions and Threats

The situation is critical for those who try to practice their religion openly. Reports suggest that some individuals have been coerced into converting to Christianity under the threat of death. For instance, a 23-year-old man from the Sangha-Mbaéré prefecture shared that he felt he had no option but to join the Catholic Church because anti-balaka members threatened to kill him if he refused.

https://www.amnesty.nl/actueel/car-unprotected-muslims-forced-to-abandon-religion

https://www.pulse.ng/articles/nigeria-religion/in-central-african-republic-muslims-forced-to-flee-for-fear-of-being-erased-by-2024080901383172454

Bring your proof from Britannica a reliable source, don't be stup!d and crazzy tagging a group of people defending themselves against your fellow slaves that are waging war on them a terrorist group of people for protecting themselves

Did you think the persecution you are carrying against the Children of God in Nigeria will be acceptable in other countries right?

Ohyoudidnt:
You don't and very likely can't get it as you have switched off your intellect.

The ongoing violence in the Central African Republic (CAR), especially concerning the anti-Balaka group, calls for a careful assessment of its designation as a terrorist organization. According to Britannica, although anti-Balaka started as a self-defense militia against the Seleka rebels, it has since transformed to include indiscriminate violence against civilians, which is characteristic of terrorist actions.

The Anti-balaka militias are often described as bad actors of terrorism. They emerged in 2013 in response to the atrocities committed by the predominantly Muslim Seleka rebel coalition, which had overthrown the government earlier that year.

Here are some key points regarding the actions of the Anti-balaka:

Targeting of Muslim Communities: The Anti-balaka have carried out widespread attacks on Muslim communities, including killings, looting, and destruction of property. These attacks have frequently been indiscriminate, resulting in significant civilian casualties.

Sectarian Violence: The violence inflicted by the Anti-balaka has fueled a cycle of sectarian conflict in the Central African Republic (CAR), worsening tensions between Christian and Muslim communities. This has led to mass displacements, with many Muslims either fleeing the country or seeking refuge in enclaves.

Human Rights Violations: Numerous human rights organizations, such as Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, have documented various human rights violations committed by the Anti-balaka, including extrajudicial killings, torture, and the recruitment of child soldiers.

International Response: The international community, including the United Nations and the African Union, has condemned the actions of both the Anti-balaka and Seleka groups. Peacekeeping missions have been deployed to the CAR to help stabilize the situation and protect civilians.

Although the Anti-balaka initially formed as self-defense groups, their actions have often exceeded self-defense, contributing to the instability and humanitarian crisis in the Central African Republic. The conflict remains complex, with various armed groups continuing to vie for power and control, making it difficult to achieve lasting peace and reconciliation.

How do you define terrorists?

Then why don't the Christians amongst them adopt the faith and follow the saying of Jesus in the Bible?

Matthew 5:38-39:

"You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also."

HYPOCRISY OR UNGODLINESS

You sha must glorify taqqiya, slave, bring your evidence from Britannica

So they are terrorists for defending themselves against seleka the well known Islamic terrorist organization right?

Tell your chief imam or anyone in your family to take you back to Yaba left, something is wrong with your brain

Ohyoudidnt:
Read up your church history and see they have used and still use lamps.

The presence of a sanctuary lamp is a traditional custom that can be traced back to ancient Jewish traditions. Early Christians adopted this practice as a symbolic representation of Christ's eternal presence. Originally, oil lamps were used, but over time, candles became the preferred choice. Today, the sanctuary lamp continues to be an important fixture in churches worldwide.

You may have noticed that these lamps come in different colors. Each color holds its own symbolic significance based on individual church practices.

Such as Red used to depict the Presence of Christ's Body and Blood
It serves as a powerful reminder for believers to reflect on the immense love and sacrifice of Christ. Oh how symbolic the psychological disillusionary control of the pagan blood sacrifice concept

Blue: The Virgin Mary
In certain Christian denominations you may find blue sanctuary lamps. Blue is associated with purity and is often used to honor Mary, who is considered the Mother of God. This color choice reflects her role as a holy figure in these traditions.

White: Purity and Holiness

My Church and many churches never engage in doing this. Any church doing so is not different from you slaves circumbulating the shrine of kaaba half naked. As you know, it is mandatory for you slaves to perform pilgrimage to mecca as one of the pillars of Islam

Ohyoudidnt:
Same garbage of nonsense. Who are you feeding with your legend of lies?

Alexios was primarily focused on regaining lost imperial territories.
The notion that Emperor Alexios I Komnenos sought Western assistance mainly to protect Christians from the Seljuk Turks is a distorted view.

Although Alexios did request military support from the West, his motivations were rooted more in strategic interests than in concerns over religious persecution.

Context of Alexios' Appeal for Aid

By the late 11th century, the Byzantine Empire found itself in a vulnerable state for
1. Loss of Anatolia
Following the Battle of Manzikert (1071), significant portions of Asia Minor were lost to the Seljuk Turks, greatly diminishing Byzantine authority in its core regions.

2. Internal Struggles

The empire was grappling with civil wars, economic decline, and threats from Norman and Pecheneg invaders.

3. Seljuk Expansion

The newly established Sultanate of Rum represented a direct danger to Constantinople and Byzantine territories.

Sometime in 1095, Alexios dispatched envoys to Pope Urban II during the **Council of Piacenza, asking for mercenary reinforcements to reclaim lost Byzantine lands.
- He was in search of professional soldiers not a large-scale religious crusade.

Pope Urban II’s Response motivated by his own objectives (such as bolstering papal authority, reuniting the Eastern and Western Churches, and redirecting the aggression of European knights into a religious conflict), reframed Alexios’ request into a call for a Holy War, which ultimately led to the First Crusade (1096–1099).

Misinterpretation of Religious Oppression
- Some chroniclers from the Crusade era in the West (like Guibert of Nogent and Robert the Monk) portrayed Alexios' appeal as a desperate plea to rescue oppressed Eastern Christians from Muslim domination.
The reality was more complex:

- Byzantium had coexisted with Muslims for centuries, frequently forming alliances with Muslim leaders.
- While certain Christian communities did experience taxation and restrictions, widespread oppression was not the primary concern.
- Alexios was primarily focused on regaining lost imperial territories.

Ma, did you go to school or only the Quran is what you have inside your head?

How does this your post invalidate what i.said? Alexios founded an organization to reclaim lost lands on the pretext that he was defending christians against murderous Muslims. How is it a act of terrorism to reclaim your land or defend against murderers? Which of your murderous terrorist organizations is in the act for such purposes?

They're avowed to kill, maim, imprison, rape, subjugate innocent people who.havr done them no harm. All in a bid to forcefully make them Muslims according to the teachings of your false prophet who now resides in hell as a just punishment for his lies and deceptions.

AntilsIam:
Muhammad and allah has finish them with fiction virgin's Island

Selfish politicians makes use of zombies to gain power so if you find any terrorist group know that such a group will easily become a tool in the hands of a politician no matter the religion such killer groups claim as long as they believe in righting the wrong in human society they are all the same!

AntilsIam:
You sha must glorify taqqiya, slave, bring your evidence from Britannica

So they are terrorists for defending themselves against seleka the well known Islamic terrorist organization right?

Tell your chief imam or anyone in your family to take you back to Yaba left, something is wrong with your brain

You see why I am right that you are uncivil and uncultured and very likely too narrowly educated.

I asked you a simple question regarding Matthew 24 which you deliberately ignore. How did your Jesus ask you to defend yourself?

Your brittanica article discussed numerous reasons for the dispute and you know religion is the least. You cannot comprehend the political cause? Ego and ethnic supremacy?

Whar makes Brittanica more credible than Amnesty international? I see you are still under you British colonial masters; NIGGER literally.

AntilsIam:
My Church and many churches never engage in doing this. Any church doing so is not different from you slaves circumbulating the shrine of kaaba half naked. As you know, it is mandatory for you slaves to perform pilgrimage to mecca as one of the pillars of Islam

Your church doesn't do it as they are a church in isolation of all others? What about the churches that do? Pathetically irrational submission.

GothamCities:
Ma, did you go to school or only the Quran is what you have inside your head?

How does this your post invalidate what i.said? Alexios founded an organization to reclaim lost lands on the pretext that he was defending christians against murderous Muslims. How is it a act of terrorism to reclaim your land or defend against murderers? Which of your murderous terrorist organizations is in the act for such purposes?

They're avowed to kill, maim, imprison, rape, subjugate innocent people who.havr done them no harm. All in a bid to forcefully make them Muslims according to the teachings of your false prophet who now resides in hell as a just punishment for his lies and deceptions.

Did you not lie that the crusades were in response to the Ottoman jihadists please when Alexis lied to start the crusades with the pope urban exploiting further? Were Eastern Christians not also killed in these crusades by the crusade army. Be better informed or shut up without exposing your ignorance.

Ohyoudidnt:
You see why I am right that you are uncivil and uncultured and very likely too narrowly educated.

I asked you a simple question regarding Matthew 24 which you deliberately ignore. How did your Jesus ask you to defend yourself?

Your brittanica article discussed numerous reasons for the dispute and you know religion is the least. You cannot comprehend the political cause? Ego and ethnic supremacy?

Whar makes Brittanica more credible than Amnesty international? I see you are still under you British colonial masters; NIGGER literally.

Are you civiled, mannered and cultured when calling your dad a sillyy one?


"Are they the same or you are just silly...

Slave, I don't have time for nonsensee okay.. Next time be mindful of your utterances

Show me from Britannica where amnesty intentional called them a terrorist organization for defending themselves against seleka

Ohyoudidnt:
Your church doesn't do it as they are a church in isolation of all others? What about the churches that do? Pathetically irrational submission.

Name the church that does it? Lobatan as simple as ABC

Ohyoudidnt:
You see why I am right that you are uncivil and uncultured and very likely too narrowly educated.

I asked you a simple question regarding Matthew 24 which you deliberately ignore. How did your Jesus ask you to defend yourself?

Your brittanica article discussed numerous reasons for the dispute and you know religion is the least. You cannot comprehend the political cause? Ego and ethnic supremacy?

Whar makes Brittanica more credible than Amnesty international? I see you are still under you British colonial masters; NIGGER literally.



Your church doesn't do it as they are a church in isolation of all others? What about the churches that do? Pathetically irrational submission.

Did you not lie that the crusades were in response to the Ottoman jihadists please when Alexis lied to start the crusades with the pope urban exploiting further? Were Eastern Christians not also killed in these crusades by the crusade army. Be better informed or shut up without exposing your ignorance.

He said the crusades were a response to the Muslim jihadists. He had other motives but the defence against murderous Muslims was still part of the motives.

Was it only the crusades you listed in your false and deceitful claims? You listed other organizations too which I said were created to defend against you murderers. You couldn't counter that, could you?

I read you asking Antiislam about Mathew 24 as a way of countering his stand that the the organizations were founded in response to you murderous lots. Did I read you asking him whether that was how Jesus taught us to respond? Is terrorism determined by how Jesus taught us to respond or by the actual act of terrorism itself? You're terrorists, not because of how mohammed taught you to spread Islam but because of the very act of terrorism you murderers practice. Mohammed was a terrorist, not just because of what he taught but because of what he did.

GothamCities:
He said the crusades were a response to the Muslim jihadists. He had other motives but the defence against murderous Muslims was still part of the motives.

Was it only the crusades you listed in your false and deceitful claims? You listed other organizations too which I said were created to defend against you murderers. You couldn't counter that, could you?

I read you asking Antiislam about Mathew 24 as a way of countering his stand that the the organizations were founded in response to you murderous lots. Did I read you asking him whether that was how Jesus taught us to respond? Is terrorism determined by how Jesus taught us to respond or by the actual act of terrorism itself? You're terrorists, not because of how mohammed taught you to spread Islam but because of the very act of terrorism you murderers practice. Mohammed was a terrorist, not just because of what he taught but because of what he did.

He want to glorify taqqiya not knowing that it will backfire on him

AntilsIam:
He want to glorify taqqiya not knowing that it will backfire on him

It's their way.

GothamCities:
He said the crusades were a response to the Muslim jihadists. He had other motives but the defence against murderous Muslims was still part of the motives.

Was it only the crusades you listed in your false and deceitful claims? You listed other organizations too which I said were created to defend against you murderers. You couldn't counter that, could you?

I read you asking Antiislam about Mathew 24 as a way of countering his stand that the the organizations were founded in response to you murderous lots. Did I read you asking him whether that was how Jesus taught us to respond? Is terrorism determined by how Jesus taught us to respond or by the actual act of terrorism itself? You're terrorists, not because of how mohammed taught you to spread Islam but because of the very act of terrorism you murderers practice. Mohammed was a terrorist, not just because of what he taught but because of what he did.

Birds of a feather. Ottoman jihadists is terribly off point as the Ottoman empire didn't exist at the time Alexios initiated the crusades. Is this too advanced for you to comprehend?

Ohyoudidnt:
Birds of a feather. Ottoman jihadists is terribly off point as the Ottoman empire didn't exist at the time Alexios initiated the crusades. Is this too advanced for you to comprehend?

We were talking about the crusaders, you brought in Alexios. It seems you didn't even know the difference between the two. Are you an illiterate?

The term "Crusaders" actually refers to the Western Christian armies that responded to Pope Urban II's call to arms in 1095, with the goal of liberating the Holy Land from Muslim rule.

The Crusaders were primarily composed of:

1. French nobles and knights_: Led by figures like Godfrey of Bouillon, Raymond of Toulouse, and Bohemond of Taranto.
2. German and Italian contingents_: Including forces led by Emperor Henry IV's brother, Conrad, and the Doge of Venice, Vitale Michiel.
3. Other Western European forces_: From regions like England, Flanders, and Normandy.

Alexios I Komnenos, the Byzantine Emperor, did not lead the Crusader army. Instead, he requested military assistance from the West, which ultimately led to the launch of the First Crusade. He himself was not one of the crusaders. The Byzantine army did provide some support to the Crusaders, particularly during the Siege of Antioch by murderous Muslims in 1097-1098.

So, while Alexios played a significant role in initiating the Crusades which were based primarily on self defense and Christian unification, the Crusaders themselves were primarily Western Christian forces defending against Islamic bloodshed.

Ohyoudidnt:
I see you are too uncivil to have conversations without showing your irresponsible unscrupulous nature.

Is this how you were raised, what you picked from society or the illusion you have about the way of life you uphold?

You are unable to show where any verse clearly says people are compelled to worship Allah who is in no way an Idol or forced into Islam. Obviously you are fund of making careless statement without valid proof.

You forget the Christian and Jewish terrorist groups for what reason?


1. The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) (Uganda, DRC, CAR, South Sudan)
2. Army of God (USA)
3. Phineas Priesthood (USA)
4. The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord (CSA) (USA)
5. Eastern Lightning (Church of Almighty God) (China)
6. National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) (India)
7. Jewish Defense League (JDL) (USA, Israel)
8. Kahane Chai / Kach (Israel)
9. Brit HaKanaim (Israel)
10. Gush Emunim Underground (Israel)
11. Terror Against Terror (TNT) (Israel)
12. Bat Ayin Underground (Israel)

Or can you provide valid context of how the verses you share support your wrong stand?

Perhaps you should provide a Fatwa supported by true Islam that approves killing anyone for not practicing Islam that led to the killing of those referred to in that video

Stop wasting your Time with that Retard.

I used to engage him before some brothers on here advised I stop.

I have now.

He doesn't think, he is Dumb and always abusive with every of his posts.

GothamCities:
We were talking about the crusaders, you brought in Alexios. It seems you didn't even know the difference between the two. Are you an illiterate?

The term "Crusaders" actually refers to the Western Christian armies that responded to Pope Urban II's call to arms in 1095, with the goal of liberating the Holy Land from Muslim rule.

The Crusaders were primarily composed of:

1. French nobles and knights_: Led by figures like Godfrey of Bouillon, Raymond of Toulouse, and Bohemond of Taranto.
2. German and Italian contingents_: Including forces led by Emperor Henry IV's brother, Conrad, and the Doge of Venice, Vitale Michiel.
3. Other Western European forces_: From regions like England, Flanders, and Normandy.

Alexios I Komnenos, the Byzantine Emperor, did not lead the Crusader army. Instead, he requested military assistance from the West, which ultimately led to the launch of the First Crusade. He himself was not one of the crusaders. The Byzantine army did provide some support to the Crusaders, particularly during the Siege of Antioch by murderous Muslims in 1097-1098.

So, while Alexios played a significant role in initiating the Crusades which were based primarily on self defense and Christian unification, the Crusaders themselves were primarily Western Christian forces defending against Islamic bloodshed.

Re read your submission.

Crusaders were the Christian warriors who participated in the Crusades


The First Crusade (1096–1099) was driven by a variety of motivations that went beyond its religious pretext. It was officially launched at the request of Byzantine Emperor Alexios I Komnenos to defend against the Seljuk Turks, but it also aligned with Pope Urban II's goals of strengthening papal authority and mending the divide between Eastern and Western Christianity. Many participants were also inspired by the promise of heavenly salvation and the chance to have their sins forgiven. Economic interests were significant as well, with younger nobles eager for land and wealth, while Italian merchant states sought new trade routes. This intricate mix of political, economic, and religious factors influenced the direction of the Crusade.

Primcipally the Byzantine Emperor Alexios I Komnenos (r. 1081–1118) sought to defend against the Seljuk Turks, who had taken control of much of Anatolia, the empire's core region, following their victory at the Battle of Manzikert in 1071. This defeat significantly undermined Byzantine authority over its eastern lands, resulting in economic downturn, military instability, and increased threats to Constantinople itself.

Defense after being conquered or ego driven desire for control and greed for wealth.


JOHN BULL please go back to school.

Ohyoudidnt:
Re read your submission.

Crusaders were the Christian warriors who participated in the Crusades


The First Crusade (1096–1099) was driven by a variety of motivations that went beyond its religious pretext. It was officially launched at the request of Byzantine Emperor Alexios I Komnenos to defend against the Seljuk Turks, but it also aligned with Pope Urban II's goals of strengthening papal authority and mending the divide between Eastern and Western Christianity. Many participants were also inspired by the promise of heavenly salvation and the chance to have their sins forgiven. Economic interests were significant as well, with younger nobles eager for land and wealth, while Italian merchant states sought new trade routes. This intricate mix of political, economic, and religious factors influenced the direction of the Crusade.

Primcipally the Byzantine Emperor Alexios I Komnenos (r. 1081–1118) sought to defend against the Seljuk Turks, who had taken control of much of Anatolia, the empire's core region, following their victory at the Battle of Manzikert in 1071. This defeat significantly undermined Byzantine authority over its eastern lands, resulting in economic downturn, military instability, and increased threats to Constantinople itself.

Defense after being conquered or ego driven desire for control and greed for wealth.


JOHN BULL please go back to school.

How does an attempt to retake conquered land amount terrorism? Can you now see that you're the John Bull?

Which conquered land are you terrorists retaking? What aggression are you defending against? If that's what you're doing, no one would call you terrorists. You'll be militants at best.

But, you guys wake up in the morning to think of who to kill for your blood sucking god.

GothamCities:
How does an attempt to retake conquered land amount terrorism? Can you now see that you're the John Bull?

Which conquered land are you terrorists retaking? What aggression are you defending against? If that's what you're doing, no one would call you terrorists. You'll be militants at best.

But, you guys wake up in the morning to think of who to kill for your blood sucking god.

You are unable to keep up. I mentioned Anti-balaka as terrorist. Tell the actions of the crusaders and show how they were unlike actions of terrorism?

Was it truly for religion or greed and desire for position.

AntilsIam:
Frustration has set him that's why you're beginning insulting your dad.. See I will give it to you back the way and manner you bring it

You are very crazzy to know that both of your follow the same clockwise directions, so what is differ in your direction you this stup!d slave?


There are different numbers for different deities:

1 for Ganapathy, 2 for Soorya(Sun), 3 for Shiva, 4 fir Devi and Vishnu, and 7 for Peepal tree (Sacred tree). Generally these Pradakshina are done in temple in Kerala.

You slaves do circumbulate the shrine and black stone of kaaba half naked, they also do it while half naked. ARE YOU DIFFERENT FROM THEM?

I have many source where Muhammad ate food sacrificed to idol and he also sacrificed animals to his idol


Narrated 'Abdullah: Allah's Apostle said that he met Zaid bin 'Amr Nufail at a place near Baldah and this had happened before Allah's Apostle received the Divine Inspiration. Allah's Apostle presented a dish of meat (that had been offered to him by the pagans) to Zaid bin 'Amr, but Zaid refused to eat of it and then said (to the pagans), "I do not eat of what you slaughter on your stone altars (Ansabs) nor do I eat except that on which Allah's Name has been mentioned on slaughtering." Sahih al-Bukhari 7:407


Furthermore, Ibn al-Kalbi also confirms that Muhammad offered up an ewe to al-Uzza, "in accordance with the religion of the people." (Ibid., p. 127)

Al-'Uzza (the most mighty, Venus, the morning star) had her cult in Nakhlah east of Makkah. According to al-Kalbi, hers was the most venerated idol among the Quraysh, and Muhammad as a young man offered her a sacrifice. (Hitti, History of the Arabs from the Earliest Times to the Present, revised tenth edition, new preface by Walid Khalidi [Palgrave Macmillan, 2002; ISBN: 0-333-63142-0 paperback], p. 99)



The Prophet slaughtered an ewe for one of the idols (nusub min al-ansab); then he roasted it and carried it with him. Then Zayd ibn Amr ibn Nufayl met us in the upper part of the valley; it was one of the hot days of Mecca. When we met we greeted each other with the greeting of the Age of barbarism, in'am sabahan. The Prophet said: "Why do I see you, O son of Amr, hated by your people?" He said, "This (happened) without my being the cause of their hatred; but I found them associating divinities with God and I was reluctant to do the same. I wanted (to worship God according to) the religion of Abraham..." The Prophet said, "Would you like some food?" He said, "Yes." Then the Prophet put before him the (meat of the ewe). He (that is, Zayd ibn Amr) said: "What did you sacrifice to, O Muhammad?"

"He said, "To one of the idols." Zayd then said: "I am not the one to eat anything slaughtered for a divinity other than God." (Al-Kharqushi, Sharaf al-Mustafa, cited in F. E. Peters, Muhammad and the Religion of Islam [State University of New York Press (SUNY), Albany 1994], pp. 126-127)



The Qur’an itself commanded Muslims to continue practicing the pagan rites as part of the religion:

Behold! Safa and Marwa are among the Symbols of Allah. So if those who visit the House in the Season or at other times, should compass them round, it is no sin in them. And if any one obeyeth his own impulse to good, — be sure that Allah is He Who recogniseth and knoweth. Surah al-Baqarah 2:158


YOU ARE IDOLATERS IN ISLAM


Anything you want to say about balaka, bring it out from Britannica since you said Wikipedia is a edited site, so bring your points out from Britannica

Balaka is not a terrorist group, you are a liar for tagging them a terrorist organization. Balaka members are defending themselves against your seleka the Islamic terrorist group waging war on them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLS0gl81HhQ?si=Psbw7FfkMidI6Ayl

Ohyoudidnt:
You are unable to keep up. I mentioned Anti-balaka as terrorist. Tell the actions of the crusaders and show how they were unlike actions of terrorism?

Was it truly for religion or greed and desire for position.

You are unable to answer my questions!

Your organizations are terrorist organizations. Agreed?

The crusaders fought to reclaim lost lands and unify Christendom. While they also have a motive for wealth, none of these actions are terror inclined. The flight anti-christian marauders and applied force on fellow Christians whom they consider to be dissidents. They never went out to subjugate people of other faiths or behead head for not accepting Jesus while shouting Hossanah.

While their actions are anti-christian in all ramifications and are a gross departure from the tenets of the Christian faith, your terrorist organizations are the true face of Islam. They're following the paths that their murderous prophet left for them. Their actions are never confirmed by Muslims. The killers of Deborah never even got prosecuted for their bloodshed. They're walking free and being praised in Muslim circles. Boho haram, ISWAP, ISIS, Al-qaeda, etc are all heroes of Islam. Muslims all over the world are happy at what they do because they're acting according to the instructions of Allah. Allah even promised virgins for such despicable acts. Is the difference not clear?

The crusaders clearly ran contrary to the Christian faith even though they did not go about terrorizing people as Islamists do. The Islamic terrorist organizations on the hand are acting true to their religion. Infact, they all consider themselves better Muslims than those who don't kill.

Ohyoudidnt:
https

I don't have time watching any video, so keep it to yourself

Next time don't come here and be glorifying taqqiya you this pagan

You should see yourselves in Islam as pagans and idolatrous set of people

AntilsIam:
I don't have time watching any video, so keep it to yourself

Next time don't come here and be glorifying taqqiya you this pagan

You should see yourselves in Islam as pagans and idolatrous set of people

When it all falls down you cannot handle the truth. Like the feel of LSD like hallucination to hide from the truth.

Reality is not from your imagination.

GothamCities:
You are unable to answer my questions!

Your organizations are terrorist organizations. Agreed?

The crusaders fought to reclaim lost lands and unify Christendom. While they also have a motive for wealth, none of these actions are terror inclined. The flight anti-christian marauders and applied force on fellow Christians whom they consider to be dissidents. They never went out to subjugate people of other faiths or behead head for not accepting Jesus while shouting Hossanah.

While their actions are anti-christian in all ramifications and are a gross departure from the tenets of the Christian faith, your terrorist organizations are the true face of Islam. They're following the paths that their murderous prophet left for them. Their actions are never confirmed by Muslims. The killers of Deborah never even got prosecuted for their bloodshed. They're walking free and being praised in Muslim circles. Boho haram, ISWAP, ISIS, Al-qaeda, etc are all heroes of Islam. Muslims all over the world are happy at what they do because they're acting according to the instructions of Allah. Allah even promised virgins for such despicable acts. Is the difference not clear?

The crusaders clearly ran contrary to the Christian faith even though they did not go about terrorizing people as Islamists do. The Islamic terrorist organizations on the hand are acting true to their religion. Infact, they all consider themselves better Muslims than those who don't kill.

The primary objective of the Crusades, especially the First Crusade (1096–1099), was to reclaim Jerusalem and other sacred Christian sites from Muslim control.

Pope Urban II, who initiated the First Crusade in 1095, framed it as both a religious obligation and a way to support the Byzantine Empire against Turkish advances.

Rather than creating unity, they exacerbated the divide between the Catholic and Orthodox churches, intensified political rivalries, and led to a long-lasting disillusionment with papal authority.

The assertion that Allah offers virgins (Hoor al-‘Ayn) as a reward for immoral actions or martyrdom in a manner that promotes violence misrepresents Islamic teachings.

The Quran outlines the rewards in Jannah (Paradise) for the righteous, which include Hoor al-‘Ayn (pure companions), beautiful gardens, flowing rivers, and everlasting joy. These rewards are intended for those who genuinely follow Allah, perform good deeds, and seek righteousness—not for individuals who engage in wrongdoing.
And they will have [in Paradise] purified spouses, and they will abide therein eternally." (Surah Al-Baqarah 2:25)

Groups that misinterpret Islamic texts to rationalize violent actions often take Quranic verses out of context. Islam firmly prohibits suicide and the harm of innocent individuals.

Ohyoudidnt:
When it all falls down you cannot handle the truth. Like the feel of LSD like hallucination to hide from the truth.

Reality is not from your imagination.

I should accept your lies as the truth?

You must be suffering from dementia

AntilsIam:
Imagine you even shot yourself in the foot.. Britannica didn't see them as terrorist group or what you claimed they are, lobatan.. Your lies exposed

Guy, this is Anti.islam you can't lie here and go free, I will duly exposed you


The primarily Christian civilian population began to form militias, known as anti-balaka (Sango: “anti-machete” or “machete proof”) or anti-balles AK (French: “against the bullets from an AK-47 rifle”), to protect themselves against the mainly Muslim rebels, which in turn degenerated into a cycle of violent attacks



https://www.britannica.com/topic/history-of-Central-African-Republic#:~:text=The%20primarily%20Christian%20civilian%20population,a%20cycle%20of%20violent%20attacks


God.. Can't you see from the picture attached

How many times would I show you this. CHECK FROM THE PICTURE BELOW

The primarily Christian civilian population began to form militias, known as anti-balaka (Sango: “anti-machete” or “machete proof”) or anti-balles AK (French: “against the bullets from an AK-47 rifle”)

Now you make reference to Seleka and Muslims in your bias and that of the article author yet Séléka was primarily composed of Muslims, but it should not be seen as a religious movement. Rather, it functioned as a political and military coalition that leveraged religious identity [b]when it suited their purposes, resembling a group of warlords. Numerous atrocities committed by Séléka went against Islamic teachings, leading to widespread condemnation from Muslim communities both within and outside the Central African Republic.


The UN determined that both Séléka and their adversaries, the anti-balaka militias, were responsible for war crimes and crimes against humanity throughout the conflict.

Of course you shy away from sincerely responding to the observation in relation to Matthew. You find it irrelevant and make flimsy excuse as you lack wisdom.

An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind.


Did the Seleka which included factions of former rebel movements lie in their accusation that Bozizé did not implement aspects of a previous peace agreement?

AntilsIam:
I should accept your lies as the truth?

You must be suffering from dementia

Where is the lie in the similarities between Jesus and Horus regarding birth, death and resurrection?

Ohyoudidnt:
Where is the lie in the similarities between Jesus and Horus regarding birth, death and resurrection?

Shey na similarities between your Jesus and horror we dey discussed since? Bobo check your camel urine syrup if it has not been exhausted