₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkie:
That is simple! Because in marriage you have two individuals under the law still. Marriage does not make you into God. You are still two individuals under the eyes of the Supreme Law.

2. A child is an individual and a citizen under the eyes of the Supreme Law. Under your criminal code, physical assault against another individual is a criminal offense, is it not?

As for abortion laws in Nigeria, I am not too certain where it is given Nigerians have yet to make a clear decision on such things as far as I know it.

Blkpanda:
➜ You’re being intentionally vague and intellectually dishonest. Are you talking law personal beliefs? If you’re talking law the the answer to the list is No because there is no law on marital rape in Nigeria (correct me if I’m wrong). You obviously diagree with the law so this entire conversation is based on personal beliefs. Your personal beliefs. Stop conflating it with the law.
Do you think it is ok for parents to beat their child? Is it ok for a woman to abort a baby?

Easyincome24:
There are sometimes the woman may not want it. Sometimes due to mental stress, but some men will choose to snub or force their way into their women.
Such act is contravening what both shared as marriage. Hence it's a marital rape.

Carndidlaydid:
That UGo is a big time rapist apologist


How can you compare that with forcefully having sex with someone's daughter

Men are so evil and unreasonable

Easyincome24:
This response just corroborate the fact that marital rape exists. You only succeeded to take the side of the man who may face financial stress as compared to when the woman complained of a mental stress.

Look at me straight away, tell me that marital rape does not exist.

Kobojunkie:
There does not need to be a law specifically on marital rape since the rape law is all that is necessary. For instance, if a woman in a non-marital relationship is enabled by law to accuse even her boyfriend of rape, then a woman in marriage— equally a relationship— is equipped by the same law to do the same— again, these are individuals. A separate marital rape Law becomes necessary if and only if the law specifically states that married individuals lose their right to bodily autonomy. In the Nigerian case, this is not the case.

2. I already responded clearly to these questions in my previous response to you.

Blkpanda:
➜In Nigerian law there is an exception specifically for marriage so no, rape law does not cover marital rape hence marital rape is not rape

Kobojunkie:
Rather than engage in this back and forth with me while throwing around conjectures hoping something will stick, you should probably spend your time reviewing the Nigerian Sexual Offences Act of 2010 as well as the Violence Against Persons Prohibition Act of 2015 for the answers as to what Nigerian Law says.

Blkpanda:
➜Marital rape is explicitly excluded from the definition of rape in the Northern Nigeria Penal Code provided the spouse has reached puberty (Section 282(2)),[50] and likewise excluded from Section 357 of the Nigerian Criminal Code (applying to the southern states).[/i
➜[i]The Sexual Offences Act of 2010 in Nigeria does not explicitly state that marital rape is a crime. The Criminal Code Act also doesn't define consent in a way that requires free and voluntary agreement.

Kobojunkie:
There does not need to be a law specifically on marital rape since the rape law is all that is necessary. For instance, if a woman in a non-marital relationship is enabled by law to accuse even her boyfriend of rape, then a woman in marriage— equally a relationship— is equipped by the same law to do the same— again, these are individuals. A separate marital rape Law becomes necessary if and only if the law specifically states that married individuals lose their right to bodily autonomy. In the Nigerian case, this is not the case.

2. I already responded clearly to these questions in my previous response to you.

Kobojunkie:
Please go ahead and in fact quote verbatim for us what is stated in those codes you claim to support this idea of yours noting what I had said earlier.


P.S. Did you know that rape is considered grounds for dissolution of marriage under Nigeria's Matrimonial Causes Act, and nowhere is the term Marital rape specified?

Blkpanda:
➜Youre hysteric so I won’t respond anymore after.I first responded to you on the subject of government involvement in personal lives. Then I tried to engage you in a thought exercise on the topics of abortion and child abuse. I quoted Nigerian law as you’re screaming about but never mentioned a personal opinion.

Blkpanda:
Marital rape is explicitly excluded from the definition of rape in the Northern Nigeria Penal Code provided the spouse has reached puberty (Section 282(2)),[50] and likewise excluded from Section 357 of the Nigerian Criminal Code (applying to the southern states).

The Sexual Offences Act of 2010 in Nigeria does not explicitly state that marital rape is a crime. The Criminal Code Act also doesn't define consent in a way that requires free and voluntary agreement.

Blkpanda:
In Nigerian law there is an exception specifically for marriage so no, rape low does not cover marital rape hence marital rape is not rape

Dtruthspeaker:
Wrong! Rape Law is based 97% consent and 3% age of victim.

Marriage is based on 100% consent.

So if a spouse removes consent and you apply duress, you become liable.

And it is in your legal documents "any act done upon duress, renders that act unlawful and a nullity" High court Laws of States.

So, you see I can convict any person guilty of marital rape in many different ways using your legal documents.

So you are only hiding on the fact that the kings of the land are not yet willing to punish it, exactly as they had not been punishing adultery and bigamy and perjury even though it is contained in your legal documents

Kobojunkie:
I will then interpret this to mean that you don't know what the Law in fact says and depend on (dubious)interpretations fed to you by others as is the case with the vast majority of Nigerians who are blind to the actual content of their own laws.

Blkpanda:
✓ You are abrasive and very unlikeable. It’s no wonder you cannot articulate your position clearly

Blkpanda:
I’m not hiding shit. I don’t write or enforce the laws.

they had not been punishing adultery

Are you advocating for this?

Dtruthspeaker:
I believe you appreciate the point I made which is ubi iniuria, ibi poena- where there is a wrong it will be punished.

357. Definition of rape
Any person who has unlawful carnal knowledge of a woman or girl, without her consent, or with her consent, if the consent is obtained by force or by means of threats or intimidation of any kind, or by fear of harm, or by means of false and fraudulent representation as to the nature of the act, or, in the case of a married woman, by personating her husband, is guilty of an offence which is called rape.

Blkpanda:
..If people already know, why get government involved?

Blkpanda:
I don’t know what point you made; I’m simply asking if you are advocating for punishing adultery

correctyourself:
The money the man spent marrying the wife, is it not stress to the man?

When the wife's relatives visit, they eat in the man's house, is it not financial and mental stress to the man?

When the woman sends money to her parents/relatives without approval by husband should we now say that the woman is stealing?

Una go explain tire!

opezy:
Well by Law in Nigeria,

THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MARITAL RAPE... THE CONSTITUTION SEES MARRIED COUPLE AS ONE AND ONE CANNOT RAPE HIMSELF OR HERSELF

2 PORTION OF RICE @timiagbaje

Dtruthspeaker:
Is it not with your consent that all these things happened? Did anyone rape force you?

So you are talking rubbish

Dtruthspeaker:
Is it not with your consent that all these things happened? Did anyone rape force you?

So you are talking rubbish

correctyourself:
When wife family submits bride price list can it be rejected or turned down because the man is not in the mood?

If you know you belong to such class of ladies you better stay in your father's house and marry your family.

bukatyne:
The lack of interest in bantering this topic is mutual.

In a Christian marriage, there is no rape because automatic consent is given. It is clear in the Bible and Christians understand that.

JovialJune:
➜Firstly, you do not speak for all Christians, take note of that Secondly, state where it is specifically written in the bible that "forceful sex is automatically allowed because husbands and wives automatically owns each other's body" Take note of my bolded quote and refer exactly as it is!!!

Dtruthspeaker:
Sure! Neither did they handcuff you and tie you down to give them your ATM (rape) for them to take the bride price.

See a man who turned it down and rejected it.
https://www.nairaland.com/7697133/man-rejects-wife-to-be-three-days#123269730

correctyourself:
Bitter heart, i can't help you with your problem, find away to hell yourself.