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Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 9:57pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
Please, Introduce your own God to me and tell me his name?

I wasn't ashamed to tell you who my God is and I even told you His Holy name!
Continue deceiving yourself..
God the father is a spirit and also has a spirit called the holy Spirit....and they both impregnated another man's wife because suddenly, they realized they needed a son.
Makes sense, doesn't it?

God is the totality of the consciousness of the universe. God is the universal divine consciousness.. not a Jewish man up in the sky.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:07pm On Feb 14, 2025
Truthseeker10:
My oga.
Does the devil have the holy spirit?

If the devil is within God, does that mean that evil is present with God?

Does 1 kings 8:27 say that God is present on earth?

If Heavens and earth reside inside God according to you, does God live in heaven?
I think I have answered this question before, please check my response to you
But then
Is it true that Jehovah is present in Sheol?
If this is true, what is he doing there?

Psalm 139:7-10:
"Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol , behold, You are there. If I take the wings of the dawn, if I dwell in the remotest part of the sea, even there Your hand will lead me, and Your right hand will lay hold of me."

Is this scripture true or false? Please explain.





Jeremiah 23:24:
"Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord."


If satan goes to and fro the earth and Jehovah FILLS the Earth, tell me IS SATAN INSIDE or OUTSIDE JEHOVAH?
Job 1:7:
"And the LORD said to Satan, From where come you? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it."





You have learnt the doctrine of JW wrongly from the old men at Brooklyn!


In case you are confused, here is the NWT for Jer23:24
Jer 23:24
"Can any man hide in a concealed place where I cannot see him?” declares Jehovah. “Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?” declares Jehovah


Does Jehovah fill the heavens and the earth?

You have been taught wrongly, If Jehovah fills the heavens and the earth, is he not Omnipresent?





See the error your gullibility allowed you to fall in because you are following men who do not even know Jesus! What else have you gotten wrong in your theology?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:09pm On Feb 14, 2025
sonmvayina:
Continue deceiving yourself..
God the father is a spirit and also has a spirit called the holy Spirit....and they both impregnated another man's wife because suddenly, they realized they needed a son.
Makes sense, doesn't it?

God is the totality of the consciousness of the universe. God is the universal divine consciousness.. not a Jewish man up in the sky.
Have I done wrong?

Please, Introduce your own God to me and tell me his name?

I wasn't ashamed to tell you who my God is and I even told you His Holy name!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by ichuka(m): 11:32pm On Feb 14, 2025
TenQ:
Have I done wrong?

Please, Introduce your own God to me and tell me his name?

I wasn't ashamed to tell you who my God is and I even told you His Holy name!
Bro, please let them be.
A sheep can't beget a goat, likewise the latter.
We can't plant corn and expect to harvest sweet potatoes in 3months time.
Gen1:11..Then God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit according to "THEIR KIND" with seed in them”; and it was so.

John10:27..My sheep listen to My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me;
Christ is talking about sheep here, not goats,pigs or donkeys.
His sheep knows and hears His voice.
No dey worry Ur self too much.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by johnw47: 1:23am On Feb 15, 2025
Janosky:
If you really love yourself, do research with your Bible and find the answers.
Post your findings on this forum.
Or:
Oga, if you are not seeking attention and arguments, just seek out your fellow Trinity worshipping devotees and mingle with them, to exchange Intel from your ghost deity.
JW's no get your time.
Period!
fraud jw janosky

u r 4ever loving to mock/blaspheme "The Holy Spirit"
calling Him "ghost diety/ghost god"

truly your reward is coming:

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Mat 12:31  Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 
Mat 12:32  Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 5:27am On Feb 15, 2025
ichuka:
Bro, please let them be.
A sheep can't beget a goat, likewise the latter.
We can't plant corn and expect to harvest sweet potatoes in 3months time.
Gen1:11..Then God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit according to "THEIR KIND" with seed in them”; and it was so.

John10:27..My sheep listen to My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me;
Christ is talking about sheep here, not goats,pigs or donkeys.
His sheep knows and hears His voice.
No dey worry Ur self too much.
Thank you my brother.

It was Maximus who overstepped his boundaries with me yesterday morning and since I had plenty time yesterday, I decided to show him some pepper.

Unfortunately, satan has blinded their eyes so they won't see
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 8:51am On Feb 15, 2025
TenQ:
I think I have answered this question before, please check my response to you
But then
Is it true that Jehovah is present in Sheol?
If this is true, what is he doing there?

Psalm 139:7-10:
"Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol , behold, You are there. If I take the wings of the dawn, if I dwell in the remotest part of the sea, even there Your hand will lead me, and Your right hand will lay hold of me."

Is this scripture true or false? Please explain.





Jeremiah 23:24:
"Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord."


If satan goes to and fro the earth and Jehovah FILLS the Earth, tell me IS SATAN INSIDE or OUTSIDE JEHOVAH?
Job 1:7:
"And the LORD said to Satan, From where come you? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it."





You have learnt the doctrine of JW wrongly from the old men at Brooklyn!


In case you are confused, here is the NWT for Jer23:24
Jer 23:24
"Can any man hide in a concealed place where I cannot see him?” declares Jehovah. “Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?” declares Jehovah


Does Jehovah fill the heavens and the earth?

You have been taught wrongly, If Jehovah fills the heavens and the earth, is he not Omnipresent?





See the error your gullibility allowed you to fall in because you are following men who do not even know Jesus! What else have you gotten wrong in your theology?
Oga point out where you answered the questions below.


Does the devil have the holy spirit?

If the devil is within God, does that mean that evil is present with God?

Does 1 kings 8:27 say that God is present on earth?

If Heavens and earth reside inside God according to you, does God live in heaven?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 8:52am On Feb 15, 2025
Sirmwill:
Yes
Explain 1 kings 8:27.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:49am On Feb 15, 2025
TenQ:
Thank you my brother.

It was Maximus who overstepped his boundaries with me yesterday morning and since I had plenty time yesterday, I decided to show him some pepper.

Unfortunately, satan has blinded their eyes so they won't see
Cry cry baby! cheesy

Did i quote you in any way before you get puffed up with pride?

It was MightySparrow who tagged me in a post along with different people as if i'm on the same page with them:

MightySparrow:
cc: maximumSide
Olaadegbu
TenQ
Every brother
Every sister on this platform
So i told him that i'm not one of his brothers:

MaxInDHouse:
I am not one of your brothers! undecided
That's what got on your nerves as if it's you i was talking to.

So keep that question JWs have our own God and you have yours there's no need crossing boundaries! wink

Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:36am On Feb 15, 2025
Why is it that you won't answer any questions?

I have answered you well and beyond. And let me do it again

Truthseeker10:
Oga point out where you answered the questions below.
Does the devil have the holy spirit?
No! How can the devil have the Holy Spirit. Not even all humans have the Holy Spirit. There is even no record of the Bible saying that Angels have the Holy Spirit.
Meaning that your question is borne out of ignorance?


Truthseeker10:
If the devil is within God, does that mean that evil is present with God?
Is it true that Jehovah is in Sheol?
What is he doing there?
Or did he send the Angels to represent him in Sheol?

This answers your question, for it is exactly the same answer.

Truthseeker10:
Does 1 kings 8:27 say that God is present on earth?
Isn't true that In the doctrine of Trinity, God can be EVERYWHERE and SOMEWHERE (heaven or Earth) simultaneously.

1Kin 8:27:
"But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain you; how much less this house that I have built?"

Unfortunately for you, God came with Two Angels to visit Abraham on Earth. Is this Untrue?

Is it UNTRUE that Jacob wrestled with God here on earth?

Is it UNTRUE that God showed his back to Moses here on earth?

If any of these is TRUE, your understanding is abysmal!


Truthseeker10:
If either is true
If Heavens and earth reside inside God according to you, does God live in heaven?
According to the doctrine of Trinity, God is simultaneously EVERYWHERE as the Holy Spirit and in the Heavenly realm as the Father and anywhere as the Word.



So, again I ask you the simple question:
1. Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?
You have been taught wrongly, If Jehovah fills the heavens and the earth, is he not Omnipresent?

2. Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:47am On Feb 15, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Explain 1 kings 8:27.
God as the Holy Spirit is too big to be contained by the world. This is because Everything in Existence is contained within God. Solomon was just saying that the Temple He built is not an expression of God's true majesty!

1Kin 8:27:
"But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain you; how much less this house that I have built?"


Since you hold a different understanding, Can you please explain
Exodus 25:8
"Then have them make a sanctuary for me, and I will dwell among them"


Exodus 29:46
"And they shall know that I am the Lord their God, who brought them up out of the land of Egypt, that I may dwell among them. I am the Lord their God".

2 Corinthians 6:16 Paul says,
“for you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: ‘I will dwell in them and walk among them. I will be their God, and they shall be My people"


Are these scriptures contradictions in JW doctrine?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:57am On Feb 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Cry cry baby! cheesy

Did i quote you in any way before you get puffed up with pride?

It was MightySparrow who tagged me in a post along with different people as if i'm on the same page with them:



So i told him that i'm not one of his brothers:



That's what got on your nerves as if it's you i was talking to.

So keep that question JWs have our own God and you have yours there's no need crossing boundaries! wink
And I so much dealt with you that you became DUMB. Could you give any answer to my question?

No!

FYI: The Single question remains
Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?



Let me add this:
Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?



If your JEHOVAH does fill everywhere, go tell the men in Brooklyn that they have mislead you gullible JW followers as Jehovah is Omnipresent contrary to your doctrine.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:01am On Feb 15, 2025
TenQ:
And I so much dealt with you that you became DUMB. Could you give any answer to my question?
No!
FYI: The Single question remains
Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?

Let me add this:
Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?

If your JEHOVAH does fill everywhere, go tell the men in Brooklyn that they have mislead you gullible JW followers as Jehovah is Omnipresent contrary to your doctrine.
My God is my God and your God is your God so try to be contented with yours while i'm contented with mine.

There is no need crossing boundaries! wink
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:08am On Feb 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Where was God before he created heaven? JWs please Help us
If you edit the topic of your thread this way it will be obvious that you want JWs to help you out.
Otherwise go and solve your problem yourself!
That's what a sincere commentator told you on that thread where this question was asked:

Woke4all:
Contact a Jehovah`s witness for help
So keep the question you're not smart enough to use style change the topic as if it was directed to Jehovah's Witnesses! wink
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 11:10am On Feb 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
My God is my God and your God is your God so try to be contented with yours while i'm contented with mine.

There is no need crossing boundaries! wink
You definitely hate the truth:


Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?

If your JEHOVAH does fill everywhere, go tell the men in Brooklyn that they have mislead you gullible JW followers as Jehovah is Omnipresent contrary to your doctrine.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:12am On Feb 15, 2025
TenQ:
You definitely hate the truth:
Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?
If your JEHOVAH does fill everywhere, go tell the men in Brooklyn that they have mislead you gullible JW followers as Jehovah is Omnipresent contrary to your doctrine.
Think about your own God while we talk about our own God there's no need crossing boundaries! wink
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:17am On Feb 15, 2025
If you need our help come out plainly no pretence can make us answer you!

Woke4all:
Contact a Jehovah`s witness for help
wink

Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 11:27am On Feb 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Think about your own God while we talk about our own God there's no need crossing boundaries! wink
Why are your AFRAID to answer?
You prefer bondage dai to salvation!?

I get it. You are waiting for them to review your doctrine?

Tell them that TenQ taught you first!



You definitely hate the truth:


Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?

If your JEHOVAH does fill everywhere, go tell the men in Brooklyn that they have mislead you gullible JW followers as Jehovah is Omnipresent contrary to your doctrine.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:31am On Feb 15, 2025
TenQ:
Why are your AFRAID to answer?
You prefer bondage dai to salvation!?
I get it. You are waiting for them to review your doctrine?
Tell them that TenQ taught you first!
You definitely hate the truth:
Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?
If your JEHOVAH does fill everywhere, go tell the men in Brooklyn that they have mislead you gullible JW followers as Jehovah is Omnipresent contrary to your doctrine.
I'm not one of your Muslim friends who often start arguing with you once their post trigger you to start a thread.

If you need a JW you must humbly speak to us otherwise keep whatever you think you know to yourself! wink
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:34am On Feb 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Where was God before he created heaven? JWs please Help us
Just edit the topic of your thread this way if you need our help but if not there is no need crossing boundaries!
Woke4all:
Contact a Jehovah`s witness for help
wink
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 11:36am On Feb 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
I'm not one of your Muslim friends who often start arguing with you once their post trigger you to start a thread.

If you need a JW you must humbly speak to us otherwise keep whatever you think you know to yourself! wink
I didn't ask you to argue anything. Just answer the question.

Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?

If your JEHOVAH does fill everywhere, go tell the men in Brooklyn that they have mislead you gullible JW followers as Jehovah is Omnipresent contrary to your doctrine.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:42am On Feb 15, 2025
TenQ:
I didn't ask you to argue anything. Just answer the question.

Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?

If your JEHOVAH does fill everywhere, go tell the men in Brooklyn that they have mislead you gullible JW followers as Jehovah is Omnipresent contrary to your doctrine.
This is the thread that triggered your question.
https://www.nairaland.com/825677/where-god-living-before-he

But when a sincere commentator said:

Woke4all:
Contact a Jehovah`s witness for help
All you need to do is BEG JWs to help you out but if you don't need our help there's no need crossing boundaries, your God is yours our God is ours! wink
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Sirmwill: 11:48am On Feb 15, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Explain 1 kings 8:27.
Funny

Solomon(A human like you and I) was talking here I hope you know 😂

This is where God himself was speaking
Can any hide himself in secret places so that I shall not see him? saith Jehovah. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith Jehovah. (Jer 23: 24)
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 1:16pm On Feb 15, 2025
Sirmwill:
Funny

Solomon(A human like you and I) was talking here I hope you know 😂

This is where God himself was speaking
Can any hide himself in secret places so that I shall not see him? saith Jehovah. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith Jehovah. (Jer 23: 24)
Lol....So Solomon with his God given wisdom did not know that God is present everywhere?

Did Solomon also lie in 1 kings 8:30 that God lives in heaven?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 1:17pm On Feb 15, 2025
TenQ:
God as the Holy Spirit is too big to be contained by the world. This is because Everything in Existence is contained within God. Solomon was just saying that the Temple He built is not an expression of God's true majesty!

1Kin 8:27:
"But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain you; how much less this house that I have built?"


Since you hold a different understanding, Can you please explain
Exodus 25:8
"Then have them make a sanctuary for me, and I will dwell among them"


Exodus 29:46
"And they shall know that I am the Lord their God, who brought them up out of the land of Egypt, that I may dwell among them. I am the Lord their God".

2 Corinthians 6:16 Paul says,
“for you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: ‘I will dwell in them and walk among them. I will be their God, and they shall be My people"


Are these scriptures contradictions in JW doctrine?
So if everything in the world is contained within God, will it be correct to say that God lives in heaven instead of saying that heaven lives in God?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 1:20pm On Feb 15, 2025
TenQ:
Why is it that you won't answer any questions?

I have answered you well and beyond. And let me do it again


No! How can the devil have the Holy Spirit. Not even all humans have the Holy Spirit. There is even no record of the Bible saying that Angels have the Holy Spirit.
Meaning that your question is borne out of ignorance?




Is it true that Jehovah is in Sheol?
What is he doing there?
Or did he send the Angels to represent him in Sheol?

This answers your question, for it is exactly the same answer.


Isn't true that In the doctrine of Trinity, God can be EVERYWHERE and SOMEWHERE (heaven or Earth) simultaneously.

1Kin 8:27:
"But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain you; how much less this house that I have built?"

Unfortunately for you, God came with Two Angels to visit Abraham on Earth. Is this Untrue?

Is it UNTRUE that Jacob wrestled with God here on earth?

Is it UNTRUE that God showed his back to Moses here on earth?

If any of these is TRUE, your understanding is abysmal!



According to the doctrine of Trinity, God is simultaneously EVERYWHERE as the Holy Spirit and in the Heavenly realm as the Father and anywhere as the Word.



So, again I ask you the simple question:
1. Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?
You have been taught wrongly, If Jehovah fills the heavens and the earth, is he not Omnipresent?

2. Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?
So the devil does not have the holy spirit...but God is in the devil? Can you see your sense?

Do you agree that the diagram in the screenshot below is correct in explaining the Trinity?

Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op):
Truthseeker10:
So the devil does not have the holy spirit...but God is in the devil? Can you see your sense?

Do you agree that the diagram in the screenshot below is correct in explaining the Trinity?
Before I answer this question, will you first answer mine except you don't have any answer

Is this scripture wrong? Jer 23: 24 as it answers your question! Where is satan; according to the bible?

So, again I ask you the simple question:
1. Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?
You have been taught wrongly, If Jehovah fills the heavens and the earth, is he not Omnipresent?

2. Where Resides the "Jehovah" of the JW before he Created Anything?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 1:38pm On Feb 15, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So if everything in the world is contained within God, will it be correct to say that God lives in heaven instead of saying that heaven lives in God?
No sir
Act 17:28
"For in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, 'For we are also His offspring.'"

Please answer YES or NO:
Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 1:40pm On Feb 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
This is the thread that triggered your question.
https://www.nairaland.com/825677/where-god-living-before-he

But when a sincere commentator said:



All you need to do is BEG JWs to help you out but if you don't need our help there's no need crossing boundaries, your God is yours our God is ours! wink
The response of an arrogant fool who doesn't have a response.

I asked you another question (unrelated to the original topic) flee as usual.

So, again I ask you the simple question:
1. Does the Jehovah of the JW fill the heavens and the earth?
You have been taught wrongly, If Jehovah fills the heavens and the earth, is he not Omnipresent






You were challenged and you failed woefully!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:19pm On Feb 15, 2025
TenQ:
You were challenged and you failed woefully!
I'm not interested in any challenge if you need help understanding God's word just ask for it! wink
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Sirmwill: 3:46pm On Feb 15, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Lol....So Solomon with his God given wisdom did not know that God is present everywhere?

Did Solomon also lie in 1 kings 8:30 that God lives in heaven?
Very Very funny


Read that Chapter and the next Chapter and see what God said.
Let's see if you have understanding
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 3:49pm On Feb 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
I'm not interested in any challenge if you need help understanding God's word just ask for it! wink
This is after you failed your challenge.

Two simple questions: zero marks

Close your eyes in shame!
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