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Re: Commercial Papers by farydah: 8:35am On Feb 01, 2025
Good day all, please how secure is Springfield Agro limited?
Re: Commercial Papers by SonofElElyonRet: 4:39pm On Feb 09, 2025
This thread needs updates of current issued commercial papers. Let the O.Gs do the needful and help us out
Re: Commercial Papers by freeman67: 10:40pm On Feb 09, 2025
Ok. Afex fair Trade Limited (AFTL) just defaulted in paying investors the process of their investment.

They were supposed to pay on Friday 7/2/2025 but did not pay the investors instead they promised to pay on 17/2/2025 and that also is still not sure.

Their excuse was that they have a running battle with their bankers (GTB) and that affected the payment. Whatever the issue, I feel they should have tried to resolve it before hand as this may affect investors trust in them.
Re: Commercial Papers by sirrotex: 7:19pm On Feb 10, 2025
This is serious o. This is my fear for all these unknown companies
freeman67:
Ok. Afex fair Trade Limited (AFTL) just defaulted in paying investors the process of their investment.

They were supposed to pay on Friday 7/2/2025 but did not pay the investors instead they promised to pay on 17/2/2025 and that also is still not sure.

Their excuse was that they have a running battle with their bankers (GTB) and that affected the payment. Whatever the issue, I feel they should have tried to resolve it before hand as this may affect investors trust in them.
Re: Commercial Papers by ernie4life(op): 8:14pm On Feb 10, 2025
freeman67:
Ok. Afex fair Trade Limited (AFTL) just defaulted in paying investors the process of their investment.

They were supposed to pay on Friday 7/2/2025 but did not pay the investors instead they promised to pay on 17/2/2025 and that also is still not sure.

Their excuse was that they have a running battle with their bankers (GTB) and that affected the payment. Whatever the issue, I feel they should have tried to resolve it before hand as this may affect investors trust in them.
I knew the risk of default is high considering the high rates and numerous CP issuance.

Be vigilant
Re: Commercial Papers by freeman67: 1:14am On Feb 11, 2025
ernie4life:
I knew the risk of default is high considering the high rates and numerous CP issuance.

Be vigilant
Yep, the funniest thing is that. It the only asset backed CP I have done so far.

It's actually just MPR that drove up the rates like TB and co but with what I see rates are about to start slowing down.
Re: Commercial Papers by ernie4life(op): 5:14am On Feb 11, 2025
freeman67:
Yep, the funniest thing is that. It the only asset backed CP I have done so far.

It's actually just MPR that drove up the rates like TB and co but with what I see rates are about to start slowing down.
It's already slowing down.
Re: Commercial Papers by SonofElElyonRet: 6:02am On Feb 11, 2025
freeman67:
Yep, the funniest thing is that. It the only asset backed CP I have done so far.

It's actually just MPR that drove up the rates like TB and co but with what I see rates are about to start slowing down.
How is one able to identify asset backed CPs and what are the benefits?
Re: Commercial Papers by SonofElElyonRet: 6:04am On Feb 11, 2025
freeman67:
Ok. Afex fair Trade Limited (AFTL) just defaulted in paying investors the process of their investment.

They were supposed to pay on Friday 7/2/2025 but did not pay the investors instead they promised to pay on 17/2/2025 and that also is still not sure.

Their excuse was that they have a running battle with their bankers (GTB) and that affected the payment. Whatever the issue, I feel they should have tried to resolve it before hand as this may affect investors trust in them.
Thanks. 17th February is around the corner. Let's see what happens
Re: Commercial Papers by SonofElElyonRet: 6:32am On Feb 11, 2025
How does one get the info immediately a commercial paper is issued in the primary market for public subscription?
Re: Commercial Papers by freeman67: 12:57pm On Feb 11, 2025
SonofElElyonRet:
How is one able to identify asset backed CPs and what are the benefits?
Most of the ones I have done before this are unsecured. Some of them even paid a day before.


The key difference between asset-backed commercial paper (ABCP) and unsecured commercial paper is that ABCP is backed by specific assets like receivables, meaning the issuer has pledged collateral to secure the debt, while unsecured commercial paper relies solely on the creditworthiness of the issuer without any specific asset backing, making it considered riskier.

Key points about each type:

Asset-backed commercial paper (ABCP):

Secured by designated assets like loans, credit card receivables, or other financial instruments.

Considered less risky due to the underlying collateral.

Often used by financial institutions to fund asset-based lending activities.

May involve a special purpose vehicle (SPV) to hold the assets and issue the commercial paper.

Unsecured commercial paper:

Not backed by any specific assets, relying solely on the issuer's credit rating.

Considered riskier than ABCP due to lack of collateral.

Commonly used by large corporations to finance short-term operational needs like payroll or inventory.


Credit to: AI
Re: Commercial Papers by Akerewe(m): 4:41pm On Feb 11, 2025
freeman67:
Most of the ones I have done before this are unsecured. Some of them even paid a day before.


The key difference between asset-backed commercial paper (ABCP) and unsecured commercial paper is that ABCP is backed by specific assets like receivables, meaning the issuer has pledged collateral to secure the debt, while unsecured commercial paper relies solely on the creditworthiness of the issuer without any specific asset backing, making it considered riskier.

Key points about each type:

Asset-backed commercial paper (ABCP):

Secured by designated assets like loans, credit card receivables, or other financial instruments.

Considered less risky due to the underlying collateral.

Often used by financial institutions to fund asset-based lending activities.

May involve a special purpose vehicle (SPV) to hold the assets and issue the commercial paper.

Unsecured commercial paper:

Not backed by any specific assets, relying solely on the issuer's credit rating.

Considered riskier than ABCP due to lack of collateral.

Commonly used by large corporations to finance short-term operational needs like payroll or inventory.


Credit to: AI
So u mean Dangote cement is not ABCP ??
Re: Commercial Papers by Amerengues2: 12:27am On Feb 12, 2025
Please we need experts to educate us on CP and post CP investment
Re: Commercial Papers by ernie4life(op): 10:42am On Feb 15, 2025
Akerewe:
So u mean Dangote cement is not ABCP ??
Yes it's not
Re: Commercial Papers by SonofElElyonRet: 11:02am On Feb 15, 2025
ernie4life:
Yes it's not
The name and brand is enough guarantee
Re: Commercial Papers by Akerewe(m): 1:05pm On Feb 15, 2025
ernie4life:
Yes it's not
Pls send the details of the dangote commercial paper here
Re: Commercial Papers by Akerewe(m): 1:07pm On Feb 15, 2025
SonofElElyonRet:
The name and brand is enough guarantee
I saw this just now

Re: Commercial Papers by SonofElElyonRet: 1:56pm On Feb 15, 2025
Akerewe:
I saw this just now
Don't think he'll allow any slurr on his integrity which would be the result of default on the commercial paper
Re: Commercial Papers by Akerewe(m): 8:22pm On Feb 15, 2025
SonofElElyonRet:
Don't think he'll allow any slurr on his integrity which would be the result of default on the commercial paper
R u saying dey r trying to Mar Dangote's rating?

Let's b watchful pls.

If u have information about the commercial papers pls post them here
Re: Commercial Papers by SonofElElyonRet: 9:11pm On Feb 15, 2025
Akerewe:
R u saying dey r trying to Mar Dangote's rating?

Let's b watchful pls.

If u have information about the commercial papers pls post them here
Read my message and the earlier ones to understand what I'm saying. Obviously you don't!
SonofElElyonRet:
The name and brand is enough guarantee
ernie4life:
Yes it's not
Akerewe:
So u mean Dangote cement is not ABCP ??
Re: Commercial Papers by Akerewe(m): 3:21pm On Feb 18, 2025
SonofElElyonRet:
Read my message and the earlier ones to understand what I'm saying. Obviously you don't!
I saw this

Re: Commercial Papers by ernie4life(op): 7:17pm On Feb 19, 2025
3 cp offers

Make your choice

Re: Commercial Papers by HesInMe:
Because CP issuers don't set the tax rate. That's what government does, and government can change the rate at any time. And the same tax conditions do not apply to different investors.

freeman67:
Why is it so difficult for CP investment notice to carry the exact tax & percentage to pay if taxes applies, instead of always writing "applicable taxes shall apply".
Re: Commercial Papers by Uberchic1: 12:00am On Feb 20, 2025
ernie4life:
3 cp offers

Make your choice
The picture isn't clear. What's the second one? Robust? Also how do you get these offers to your email? I can see Dangote and Access bank offers on getequity.
Re: Commercial Papers by farydah: 7:15am On Feb 20, 2025
Pls how much am I expecting if I put 5m in Dangotés CP?
Re: Commercial Papers by enque(f): 8:08am On Feb 20, 2025
farydah:
Pls how much am I expecting if I put 5m in Dangotés CP?
Your interest will depend on the tenor you wanna go with, I.e 180 or 270 days.
Obviously 270 days will give you more
Re: Commercial Papers by toyeoye(m): 9:58am On Feb 20, 2025
ernie4life:
3 cp offers

Make your choice
Can you please share again? Its not clear
Re: Commercial Papers by Uberchic1: 11:40am On Feb 20, 2025
ernie4life:
3 cp offers

Make your choice
Apart from getequity, what other legit app can I find these on please?
Re: Commercial Papers by iamrichiefola(m): 12:38pm On Feb 20, 2025
farydah:
Pls how much am I expecting if I put 5m in Dangotés CP?
The return should be about 560+ for 180 days and 880+ for 270 days
Re: Commercial Papers by Allboiz: 1:55pm On Feb 20, 2025
iamrichiefola:
The return should be about 560+ for 180 days and 880+ for 270 days
what about 10% tax and 0.5 service charge
Re: Commercial Papers by farydah: 2:26pm On Feb 20, 2025
iamrichiefola:
The return should be about 560+ for 180 days and 880+ for 270 days
hmmm thank you. It’s better than money market rate right?
Re: Commercial Papers by farydah: 2:28pm On Feb 20, 2025
enque:
Your interest will depend on the tenor you wanna go with, I.e 180 or 270 days.
Obviously 270 days will give you more
maam, I’m currently with quantum zenith money market. In the spirit of diversification, would you advise I go for this?
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