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Shedrack777:
I have concrete evidence that even today, as a married man, if you spill your semen outside the opue, you'll lose your success for one year

Discountsempai:
It had nothing to do with Onan spilling his seed, and the verse in question had nothing to do with masturbation (and no, I am not excusing masturbation...especially as I have never engaged in it, because quite frankly it does not make sense).

Onan was supposed to marry his late brother's wife, and under the customs of that time, the first child he had with his wife would be counted as his brother's child (strange to us, but in a society with high child mortality, and a concern over keeping lineages alive...).

Onan refused to do that because (as the verses imply)...he hated his brother Er. So, out of bitterness, he denied Er THE RIGHT TO KEEP his lineage alive.

Essentially, what Onan also was doing was

1. Denying Tamar the right to have a child...in a society where barreness was a BIG STIGMA. (See how Jacob, Onan's grandpa, wife Rachel felt about having no kids...and later on Hannah. And even Sarah, Onan's great-great grandmother).

2. Essentially telling his father that he wanted both his and Er's inheritance...ie greed. If he had done what he was supposed to do, then when Judah died, his (Onan's) firstborn son would have gotten Er's portion of the inheritance. By having no kids, he gets a dobule portion.

3. Essentially commiting an injustice to his late brother and dishonoring his memory.

Thus..as the bible put it in Genesis 38 vs 8-10

8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.” 9 But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also

So, nothing to do with seed or with masturbation as the OP thinks it does.

At its base it is a story about how harmful greed and resentment can be. And how wickedness also can provoke resentment (Er is described as a wicked man, so it is obvious that he was wicked to his two younger brothers, breeding anger and resentment).

GboyegaD:
The summary is man concludes on the surface but God knows the intent of the heart. God killed Onah because of his wicked intentions. He agreed to produce seeds for his late brother but his intention was to keep having fun with the widow and not to impregnate her.

judewrites:
📖 Genesis 38
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⁸ And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother.
⁹ And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
¹⁰ And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.


In the Old Testament God gave His people some laws concerning the discharge of semen from a man. (Leviticus 15:16-18)

According to these laws:

👉Anytime a man discharges his semen outside procreation (with his wife) he is considered unclean.

👉Any type of surface a man's semen falls upon is considered unclean.

👉When a man is in the process of procreation (with his wife) and he discharges his semen externally, both of them are unclean.

From these laws, we can see how sacred/sacrosanct man's semen is to God.

God ordained that man's semen should be utilized in procreation (with His wife) and not discharged carelessly/anyhow like in the case of Onan.

God killed Onan because he in outright disobedience, desecrated his semen by pouring it out on the floor instead of procreating with Tamar. (As custom then allowed it to raise children to represent his dead brother)

The major purpose of a man's semen is for procreation; to produce children on earth:

📖 His seed shall be mighty upon earth: the generation of the upright shall be blessed.
— Psalms 112:2

The semen of man is full of supernatural creative energy from God. It can create life therefore it is highly valuable in the spiritual realm.

This is why the more a man practices semen retention, (with bible reading/prayer) the more supernaturally creative he becomes like God Himself. (Hebrews 11:3)

The devil and his cohorts also seek semen to create life/exercise power in the demonic realms.

In God's perspective, a man's semen is LIFE and can create LIFE; therefore it shouldn't be treated with levity like it's done today with many through masturbation, MouthAction, homosexuality, fornication, etc

Unfortunately, the free availability of pornography/prostitution has misled much men in freely desecrating their semen attracting the wrath of God:

📖 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men...
— Romans 1:18

We are under the dispensation of grace by the blood🩸of Jesus, that's why God's wrath hasn't been fully manifested yet.

But grace period will be over soon.

Wallade:
That is a big lie

christopher123:
Igbo have that culture till date...it's called NKUCHI

SeeWahala:
Don't mind the Islamic Abubakar, he has tried reading the bible severally but can never muster up enough understanding to interpret its teachings

Too much 'knacking head on the ground' tinz

SeeWahala:
Don't mind the Islamic Abubakar, he has tried reading the bible severally but can never muster up enough understanding to interpret its teachings

Too much 'knacking head on the ground' tinz

AbuTwins:
To say God supports women being inherited as a freemen and not slaves is unbecoming. So you mean God supports the tradition but spilling the sperm and not releasing it in vexed the Lord to kill Onan. Is that your fairness? And you Skipped the hypocrisy of the father that impregnated the daughter in law and wasn't unpunished.

[The definition of a son is whomever someone gave birth to. No one becomes my son just by me saying that or filling a document.
And Abraham slept with her wife's slave girl. But the first wife's son was called a covenant child while the slave's son was not a covenant child.

Israel did the same and married slaves of Rachel and Leah. All their sons became the children of Israel equally.

No fairness at all.

AbuTwins:
Abeg which kind custom is that for a brother to sleep with his brother's widow to produce offspring for him even if he doesn't want to?

Na by force?

And it's not only Onan! The father later slept with the same woman pretending as an harlot and she got pregnant. He wanted to punish her untill he realised he was the culprit.

God punished the sinful first son with death!
God punished the second with death!
The father committed adultery and incest but was forgiven!

How is such fair?

JuanDeDios:
Because Judah did NOT commit incest or adultery. Neither Judah nor Tamar was married at the time, so no adultery was committed.

Judah and Tamar were not related by blood, so no incest was committed.

Note that inheriting a dead relative's wife to raise kids for him or for yourself is a common traditional practice around the world.

AbuTwins:
Abeg which kind custom is that for a brother to sleep with his brother's widow to produce offspring for him even if he doesn't want to?

Na by force?

And it's not only Onan! The father later slept with the same woman pretending as an harlot and she got pregnant. He wanted to punish her untill he realised he was the culprit.

God punished the sinful first son with death!
God punished the second with death!
The father committed adultery and incest but was forgiven!

How is such fair?

GOVERNORR:
God did not slay anyone..

Inspired humans wrote the best selling books and a few greedy other humans in power converted it to a tool to enslave mankind and deprive people of freedom

Anyone who exhibit emotions like anger is human so therefore saying God Slayed man is saying God was angered and like most humans couldn't control the nature

God can never be man who has emotions.
Probably you should read the Bible as a book of wisdom instead of a book of religion

Discountsempai:
It had nothing to do with Onan spilling his seed, and the verse in question had nothing to do with masturbation (and no, I am not excusing masturbation...especially as I have never engaged in it, because quite frankly it does not make sense).

Onan was supposed to marry his late brother's wife, and under the customs of that time, the first child he had with his wife would be counted as his brother's child (strange to us, but in a society with high child mortality, and a concern over keeping lineages alive...).

Onan refused to do that because (as the verses imply)...he hated his brother Er. So, out of bitterness, he denied Er THE RIGHT TO KEEP his lineage alive.

Essentially, what Onan also was doing was

1. Denying Tamar the right to have a child...in a society where barreness was a BIG STIGMA. (See how Jacob, Onan's grandpa, wife Rachel felt about having no kids...and later on Hannah. And even Sarah, Onan's great-great grandmother).

2. Essentially telling his father that he wanted both his and Er's inheritance...ie greed. If he had done what he was supposed to do, then when Judah died, his (Onan's) firstborn son would have gotten Er's portion of the inheritance. By having no kids, he gets a dobule portion.

3. Essentially commiting an injustice to his late brother and dishonoring his memory.

Thus..as the bible put it in Genesis 38 vs 8-10

8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.” 9 But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also

So, nothing to do with seed or with masturbation as the OP thinks it does.

At its base it is a story about how harmful greed and resentment can be. And how wickedness also can provoke resentment (Er is described as a wicked man, so it is obvious that he was wicked to his two younger brothers, breeding anger and resentment).

judewrites:
📖 Genesis 38
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
⁸ And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother.
⁹ And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
¹⁰ And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.


In the Old Testament God gave His people some laws concerning the discharge of semen from a man. (Leviticus 15:16-18)

According to these laws:

👉Anytime a man discharges his semen outside procreation (with his wife) he is considered unclean.

👉Any type of surface a man's semen falls upon is considered unclean.

👉When a man is in the process of procreation (with his wife) and he discharges his semen externally, both of them are unclean.

From these laws, we can see how sacred/sacrosanct man's semen is to God.

God ordained that man's semen should be utilized in procreation (with His wife) and not discharged carelessly/anyhow like in the case of Onan.

God killed Onan because he in outright disobedience, desecrated his semen by pouring it out on the floor instead of procreating with Tamar. (As custom then allowed it to raise children to represent his dead brother)

The major purpose of a man's semen is for procreation; to produce children on earth:

📖 His seed shall be mighty upon earth: the generation of the upright shall be blessed.
— Psalms 112:2

The semen of man is full of supernatural creative energy from God. It can create life therefore it is highly valuable in the spiritual realm.

This is why the more a man practices semen retention, (with bible reading/prayer) the more supernaturally creative he becomes like God Himself. (Hebrews 11:3)

The devil and his cohorts also seek semen to create life/exercise power in the demonic realms.

In God's perspective, a man's semen is LIFE and can create LIFE; therefore it shouldn't be treated with levity like it's done today with many through masturbation, MouthAction, homosexuality, fornication, etc

Unfortunately, the free availability of pornography/prostitution has misled much men in freely desecrating their semen attracting the wrath of God:

📖 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men...
— Romans 1:18

We are under the dispensation of grace by the blood🩸of Jesus, that's why God's wrath hasn't been fully manifested yet.

But grace period will be over soon.

bluefilm:
God killed Onan because of Onan's bad-belle intention towards his dead brother

Nothing more; nothing less

AbuTwins:
Abeg which kind custom is that for a brother to sleep with his brother's widow to produce offspring for him even if he doesn't want to?

Na by force?

AbuTwins:
And it's only Onan! The father later slept with the same woman pretending as an harlot and she got pregnant. He wanted to punish her untill he realised he was the culprit.

God punished the sinful first son with death!
God punished the second with death!
The father committed adultery and incest but was forgiven!

How is such fair?

Discountsempai:
It had nothing to do with Onan spilling his seed, and the verse in question had nothing to do with masturbation (and no, I am not excusing masturbation...especially as I have never engaged in it, because quite frankly it does not make sense).

Onan was supposed to marry his late brother's wife, and under the customs of that time, the first child he had with his wife would be counted as his brother's child (strange to us, but in a society with high child mortality, and a concern over keeping lineages alive...).

Onan refused to do that because (as the verses imply)...he hated his brother Er. So, out of bitterness, he denied Er THE RIGHT TO KEEP his lineage alive.

Essentially, what Onan also was doing was

1. Denying Tamar the right to have a child...in a society where barreness was a BIG STIGMA. (See how Jacob, Onan's grandpa, wife Rachel felt about having no kids...and later on Hannah. And even Sarah, Onan's great-great grandmother).

2. Essentially telling his father that he wanted both his and Er's inheritance...ie greed. If he had done what he was supposed to do, then when Judah died, his (Onan's) firstborn son would have gotten Er's portion of the inheritance. By having no kids, he gets a dobule portion.

3. Essentially commiting an injustice to his late brother and dishonoring his memory.

Thus..as the bible put it in Genesis 38 vs 8-10

8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.” 9 But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also

So, nothing to do with seed or with masturbation as the OP thinks it does.

At its base it is a story about how harmful greed and resentment can be. And how wickedness also can provoke resentment (Er is described as a wicked man, so it is obvious that he was wicked to his two younger brothers, breeding anger and resentment).

SeeWahala:
Don't mind the Islamic Abubakar, he has tried reading the bible severally but can never muster up enough understanding to interpret its teachings

Too much 'knacking head on the ground' tinz

AbuTwins:
Abeg which kind custom is that for a brother to sleep with his brother's widow to produce offspring for him even if he doesn't want to?

Na by force?

And it's not only Onan! The father later slept with the same woman pretending as an harlot and she got pregnant. He wanted to punish her untill he realised he was the culprit.

God punished the sinful first son with death!
God punished the second with death!
The father committed adultery and incest but was forgiven!

How is such fair?

Lewiseze1988:
where u there,pulpit deceivers,the effrontery to explain something that never happened is shameful.stop explaining something that u know is ordinary story.cos gullible ones will be mislead

gohf:
What are you even writing about, have you ever read the Bible before?

Or you are making things up again from your imagination?

AbuTwins:
Abeg which kind custom is that for a brother to sleep with his brother's widow to produce offspring for him even if he doesn't want to?

Na by force?

And it's not only Onan! The father later slept with the same woman pretending as an harlot and she got pregnant. He wanted to punish her untill he realised he was the culprit.

God punished the sinful first son with death!
God punished the second with death!
The father committed adultery and incest but was forgiven!

How is such fair?

Discountsempai:
It had nothing to do with Onan spilling his seed, and the verse in question had nothing to do with masturbation (and no, I am not excusing masturbation...especially as I have never engaged in it, because quite frankly it does not make sense).

Onan was supposed to marry his late brother's wife, and under the customs of that time, the first child he had with his wife would be counted as his brother's child (strange to us, but in a society with high child mortality, and a concern over keeping lineages alive...).

Onan refused to do that because (as the verses imply)...he hated his brother Er. So, out of bitterness, he denied Er THE RIGHT TO KEEP his lineage alive.

Essentially, what Onan also was doing was

1. Denying Tamar the right to have a child...in a society where barreness was a BIG STIGMA. (See how Jacob, Onan's grandpa, wife Rachel felt about having no kids...and later on Hannah. And even Sarah, Onan's great-great grandmother).

2. Essentially telling his father that he wanted both his and Er's inheritance...ie greed. If he had done what he was supposed to do, then when Judah died, his (Onan's) firstborn son would have gotten Er's portion of the inheritance. By having no kids, he gets a dobule portion.

3. Essentially commiting an injustice to his late brother and dishonoring his memory.

Thus..as the bible put it in Genesis 38 vs 8-10

8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.” 9 But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also

So, nothing to do with seed or with masturbation as the OP thinks it does.

At its base it is a story about how harmful greed and resentment can be. And how wickedness also can provoke resentment (Er is described as a wicked man, so it is obvious that he was wicked to his two younger brothers, breeding anger and resentment).

drnoel:
He was talking about Loth and his daughters. There was no imagination there.
Simple bible facts.
If you don't have an answer, don't castigate.

TheChameleon:
Damn... does it mean God was into some freaky shiit

This sounds like an Xvideos skit.

Abagworo:
That's Igbo culture which was borrowed by Moses from Africa and introduced to his people.