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“The Americans are approaching European capitals and asking how many soldiers they are ready to deploy,” one diplomat said , the Reuters news agency reported

God1000:
Such an insult, Europe will learn the hard way

As far as the US is concerned under Donald trump, Europe doesn't matter at all.

This is the price of entrusting the continent's defence and security on another country in another continent.

Let's hope Europe gets sense next time.

Why should they be taken serious? The war is happening in their continent yet they are waiting for the US to make make. The EU should have make a peace deal even before the war began.

Ukraine not invited to Russia-US talks – Zelensky
Moscow and Washington will reportedly hold talks in Saudi Arabia next week to set the stage for a potential Trump-Putin summit
Ukraine not invited to Russia-US talks – Zelensky
Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky has confirmed that Kiev was not invited to the discussions between delegations from Washington and Moscow which are expected to take place in Saudi Arabia in the coming days.

Russian President Vladimir Putin and US President Donald Trump spoke by phone on Wednesday, marking their first known direct conversation since the escalation of the Ukraine conflict in February 2022. On Saturday, the countries’ top diplomats followed up with a call to discuss “preparations for a potential high-level Russian-American summit.”

Moscow has yet to confirm any details, but according to multiple media reports, a US delegation – likely composed of national security advisers – will travel to Saudi Arabia in the coming days for talks with their Russian counterparts.

“Maybe there is something at the table, but not on our table. I didn’t see any invitations, invoices, et cetera, for Ukraine to meet with some other…,” Zelensky told journalists on the sidelines of the Munich Security Conference on Saturday.


“We don’t have any papers, any invitations,” he reiterated. “And it’s something strange for me to speak in this case, in this format, if before we don’t have any negotiations between us and our strategic partners.”

The Ukrainian side was “neither invited to, nor informed about” the upcoming US-Russia talks in Saudi Arabia, Fox News reporter Nana Sajaia said earlier in the day, citing an unnamed senior official in Kiev. According to Politico, there are also “no plans for representatives from other major European powers to join the talks,” while Bloomberg reported that European officials had not even been notified.

Kiev and its Western backers, including the previous US administration, have long insisted that no discussions about Ukraine’s future should take place without its direct participation.

Following his call with Putin on Wednesday, Trump phoned Zelensky “to inform him of the conversation” with the Russian leader. The Ukrainian leader allegedly told Trump that he, just “like President Putin, wants to make PEACE.”

Addressing attendees at the Munich Security Conference on Friday, Zelensky reiterated that he was “not going to meet with Russians.”

“I will meet with one Russian only – with Putin,” he stated, stressing that he would sit down with the Russian leader to “stop the war” only after Ukraine, the US, and the EU had devised a “common plan.”

Last month, Putin stated that while it is “possible to negotiate with anyone,” Zelensky no longer has the legitimacy to override his own decree banning talks with the Russian president. The Ukrainian leader’s presidential term expired in May 2024, but he has refused to hold elections, citing martial law. The Kremlin has stressed that any potential peace agreement between Moscow and Kiev must be legally binding.

Trump has also acknowledged that Kiev will eventually have to hold elections and noted that Zelensky might not serve another term, saying his domestic poll numbers “aren’t particularly great, to put it mildly.”

baralatie:
“The Americans are approaching European capitals and asking how many soldiers they are ready to deploy,” one diplomat said , the Reuters news agency reported

Good question which countries in Europe has sufficient ground forces
That is the question and who will take command🙄
Note that the UK is no longer part of the EU
Well there is NATO Force

God1000:
as much as I hate the west, that's not how to treat allies, it was USA under Biden that pushed Ukraine this far with weapons and financial support, and it was done with European allies


This is a very bad foreign policy America is pursuing

You are right, US under Biden pushed Ukraine and the foolish leaders of the EU supported. Such leaders can't be trusted.

tctrills:
Why should they be taken serious? The war is happening in their continent yet they are waiting for the US to make make. The EU should have make a peace deal even before the war began.

do you know the security pact between Europe and America?

Elidrisy20:
Zelensky you are on your own

I doubt that
The path trump is taking is neither here nor there .it is just a means to ramp up mediation efforts in the unnecessary war.
At the end don't be surprised by the way the events turn out

Trump trying hard to limit Europeans countries in every quarters. I hope it will not backfire.

US may have the Power, Europeans are good philosopher that can play (setup ) Trump

wiseone28:
America dey use jazz on Europe 🤣🤣

It's not jazz, its the power of the dollar. The US is the EU's biggest trading partner. They depend on the US for investment and tech. The alternative is to be under the influence of China.

Exclusion does not mean that the outcome of the mediation does not concern NATO members

Lanre1st:
Trump trying hard to limit Europeans countries in every quarters. I hope it will not backfire.

US may have the Power, Europeans are good philosophy that can play (setup ) Trump

Not limit but forcing them to shed more coins on defence

God1000:
do you know the security pact between Europe and America?

The pact is called NATO. America making peace between Russia and Ukraine (two non NATO countries) has nothing to do with the pact.
Europe is become a decrying empire that refuses in innovate. The refuse to take the lead but gets angry when Trump puts them in their place.
Anyway, if Trump can end this meaningless war, he deserves a Nobel peace prize. Obama got one for doing much less.

God1000:
as much as I hate the west, that's not how to treat allies, it was USA under Biden that pushed Ukraine this far with weapons and financial support, and it was done with European allies


This is a very bad foreign policy America is pursuing

Was it the Ukraine that started the war?

43Ronin:
Europeans na Otu. If not America dem for don cast since. Now trump dey change am, dem no fit talk. Who wan talk nau, France, Britain, Canada

Canada is not Europe

It is finished....30% of Ukraine gone...

Ukraine lost 800k soldiers while Russia 500k

Olatunji1929:
Nice one 👍 they don't want peace and they don't have balls to send troops to Ukraine so the best thing is for Trump to exclude them and if zelensky refuse to accept the outcome of the negotiations US will change zelensky in the next 3 months either by coup or election

You are wise,the war will end by Russia having 20% of Ukraine land and losing 600k soldiers...
Is it worth it?

43Ronin:
Europeans na Otu. If not America dem for don cast since. Now trump dey change am, dem no fit talk. Who wan talk nau, France, Britain, Canada

3 people that rule the world are Trump,Putin and Xi

Lanre1st:
Trump trying hard to limit Europeans countries in every quarters. I hope it will not backfire.

US may have the Power, Europeans are good philosopher that can play (setup ) Trump

It will seriously backfire.

If China decides to take Taiwan now, USA would be alone. NATO will refuse to honour their article 5.

USA under Trumpnis cutting itself of the leader of the free world.

Every man to his own tent!

Europe should embrace its newfound position as a mere subordinate to the USA, as it has reduced itself to being America’s lapdog.

It is no longer respected by other nations, and its influence in resolving conflicts has become insignificant.

Cmanforall:
Interesting how peace talks are coming now.

Why were slme Russian billionnaires assets confiscated during the early stages of this war?
It affected Chelsea club, according to a friend

When the war ends,will Russia still play in European football?

God1000:
as much as I hate the west, that's not how to treat allies, it was USA under Biden that pushed Ukraine this far with weapons and financial support, and it was done with European allies


This is a very bad foreign policy America is pursuing

That's their headache over there my own be say make Tinubu allow us to chop, his hardship policies are strangulating Nigerians

Lol. When Europe was oppressing others in Iraq, Libya and co along with the USA they were all smiling and grinning. Karma is real lol

43Ronin:
Europeans na Otu. If not America dem for don cast since. Now trump dey change am, dem no fit talk. Who wan talk nau, France, Britain, Canada

When Canada take enter European union

What is Europe up to?, with technologically developed countries like Germany, France, Italy and many more yet they are relying on other countries like America for their military assistance, this Is a big shame.

TenQ:
It will seriously backfire.

If China decides to take Taiwan now, USA would be alone. NATO will refuse to honour their article 5.

USA under Trumpnis cutting itself of the leader of the free world.

Every man to his own tent!

If the war ends,China will take Taipei...
I see some countries merging/uniting by peace or coersion in coming years

tctrills:
It's not jazz, its the power of the dollar. The US is the EU's biggest trading partner. They depend on the US for investment and tech. The alternative is to be under the influence of China.

No need for the schooling i know everything..

MERCHANDISER:
If the war ends,China will take Taipei...
I see some countries merging/uniting by peace or coersion in coming years

Taiwan has every reason to be worried!

Can anyone TRUST any security guarantee from the USA after this? Security guarantees are worthless papers otherwise the Budapest agreement would have been honoured in 2014!

When there's a change in the priesthood, there's a change in the covenant. Biden dexeived Europe and Ukraine but Trump will correct it

God1000:
as much as I hate the west, that's not how to treat allies, it was USA under Biden that pushed Ukraine this far with weapons and financial support, and it was done with European allies


This is a very bad foreign policy America is pursuing

Cmanforall:
Interesting how peace talks are coming now.

Why were slme Russian billionnaires assets confiscated during the early stages of this war?
It affected Chelsea club, according to a friend

European leaders don’t want any peace talks between Ukraine and Russia because they want to keep their loots. However, Trump has them figured out but desperate and naive Zelenskyy must be made to accept reality - what is gone is gone

Guestmale:
What is Europe up to?, with technologically developed countries like Germany, France, Italy and many more yet they are relying on other countries like America for their military assistance, this Is a big shame.

Their only problem is Population and Size .

Not enough to be a world power.

Unfortunately, USA is selling Europe out to Putin. World war 3 Loading!

I see a ramp up of Nuclear weapons by every European country that can muster up the effort. Trust Security guarantees by USA to your own peril.

Bovis:
European leaders don’t want any peace talks between Ukraine and Russia because they want to keep their loots. However, Trump has them figured out but desperate and naive Zelenskyy must be made to accept reality

Zelensky has tried. He is a man.


If he lost anything, it is because of BETRAYAL by USA.

But they have earned the Respect of Even Putin. Never in his life will he attempt this nonsense with Ukraine ever again

Unfortunately, Russia's economy will implode irreversibly as the war ends.

This is the beginning of the re-armament of Europe and when Ukraine tests their own Nukes, even USA will not be able to stop them. Every EU country will start exploding their nukes because of the strategic blunder of Trump.

Can u imagine you have been sanctioning a country yet you want to be a host of a peace talk..putin try to even pick ur call