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Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by Krismas(m): 4:04pm On Feb 16, 2025
God1000:
Such an insult, Europe will learn the hard way

As far as the US is concerned under Donald trump, Europe doesn't matter at all.

This is the price of entrusting the continent's defence and security on another country in another continent.

Let's hope Europe gets sense next time.
grin Europe is about to be caught in a web of its own GREED grin
My prayer is, make Europe vex, take d advice of madman Zelensky, by forming their own independent NATO grin
The whole Europe, wey only Germany defeat in just 9months, under Hitler grin
Useless colonial masters
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by id911(m): 4:09pm On Feb 16, 2025
Krismas:
grin Europe is about to be caught in a web of its own GREED grin
My prayer is, make Europe vex, take d advice of madman Zelensky, by forming their own independent NATO grin
The whole Europe, wey only Germany defeat in just 9months, under Hitler grin
Useless colonial masters
They don't have any reasonable military. It's US that's protecting them. If US pulls out their Army from Europe, they're gone.
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by Dougad: 4:21pm On Feb 16, 2025
Europe have allowed themselves to be cucked by Trump
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by teejoyz: 4:21pm On Feb 16, 2025
I think Ukraine should have plan B which is nuclear weapons since they have expertise, scientists and resources to build nukes. Trust Americans at your own peril. Africa expecially Nigeria should learn lessons too.
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by ogbonti: 4:25pm On Feb 16, 2025
God1000:
as much as I hate the west, that's not how to treat allies, it was USA under Biden that pushed Ukraine this far with weapons and financial support, and it was done with European allies


This is a very bad foreign policy America is pursuing
not it os a necessary correction- one cant afford to keep doing the wrong thing hoping it becomes right after a long time

with the way Biden is corrupt, only God knows if Zelensky gives him some kick back from all that aid money- whatever the Bidens cant corrupt doesnt exist
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by themanderon: 4:28pm On Feb 16, 2025
The foolishness of Europeans has been exposed. They were the lapdogs of America for ages and now Trump is about leaving them out in the cold. This is the price they Will pay for foolishly following Biden to their ultimate Waterloo. Biden coerced them to turn against Russia now There is a new sheriff in town and their foolishness has been exposed.
Biden made them to sanction Russian oil and made them buy at a more expensive price from the Americans. How foolish can they be?
They will have to bear their own weight from now on.
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by OneOnland: 4:29pm On Feb 16, 2025
Warmaterial:
Any day Germany wake up in Europe US interest don finish for Europe kpatakpata. Trump just the do anyhow.
Thank you. I still don't understand the reason the super influential and great Germany (though still devilishly terrible) is just there, letting themselves and the entire Europe have US as their string leader. Maybe because of the war.
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by OneOnland: 4:34pm On Feb 16, 2025
Blazebond:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha,oh Europe,where have your importance gone,you allowed yourself to be fooled and deceived by your white cousins from America that your brother (Russia) is your enemy, meanwhile your true enemy was the cousin from America,now you are being treated like the fools that you are and I feel no ounce of pity for you because you (Europe) are paying for your foolishness. Fnck Europe,fnck the united states and fnck White supremacists everywhere around the world.
Russia is their enemy. Has been their enemy for centuries. The history of rest of Europe with Russia had always been friend today - enemy tomorrow, and like that.

Russia had intermittently been the bully of the rest of Europe and the Europeans know their history.
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by LegacyB: 4:34pm On Feb 16, 2025
By the time Trump is done with some people . Hitler and Stalin would be looking like a joke…
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by uunwanaobong3: 4:44pm On Feb 16, 2025
EUROPE HAS LET HERSELF DOWN.

EUROPE HAS EARNED NO RIGHT TO BE ON THE NEGOTIATION TABLE FOR ANY THING. WHEN SENILE JOE BIDEN AND COMEDIAN CLOWN ZELENSKY WERE BEATING THE WAR DRUMS ABOUT GOING TO WAR WITH RUSSIA BY ALLOWING UKRAINE TO JOINED NATO AND HAVING NUCLEAR BOMBS, NOBODY IN EUROPE EVER THOUGHT TO OPPOSED THIS DANGEROUS IDEA AS IT WILL EVENTUALLY DESTROYS EUROPE. INSTEAD THEY WERE ALL JOINING HANDS TO FIGHT RUSSIA AT THEIR OWN DETRIMENT.

APART FROM PRESIDENT ORBAN OF HUNGARY AND FICO OF SLOVAKIA, ALL OTHER EUROPEAN LEADERS ARE WARMONGERS AND THEY DESERVE NO PLACE IN NEGOTIATION TABLE.
IF I WERE TRUMP I WILL PULL USA OUT OF NATO, AND LET EUROPE DEAL WITH THEIR WARMONGERING PSYCHOSIS AND MESS.... I HAVE NEVER SEEN A CONTINENT THAT IS SO MORALLY CORRUPT AND GRAVING FOR WAR AS EUROPE, YET THEY HAVE NO ARMY TO FIGHT WARS.

THANK YOU TRUMP FOR SPEAKING TRUTHS TO THE FACES OF THESE WARMONGERING VASSALS COMMISSIERS.
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by Peacecore: 4:46pm On Feb 16, 2025
43Ronin:
Europeans na Otu. If not America dem for don cast since. Now trump dey change am, dem no fit talk. Who wan talk nau, France, Britain, Canada grin cheesy grin
Canada is in America not Europe, thanks!
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by d142475: 5:01pm On Feb 16, 2025
Warmaterial:
Any day Germany wake up in Europe US interest don finish for Europe kpatakpata. Trump just the do anyhow.
Germany is an export-driven economy. If the US blocks off German export, Geeman economy is finished.
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by d142475: 5:04pm On Feb 16, 2025
Lanre1st:
Trump trying hard to limit Europeans countries in every quarters. I hope it will not backfire.

US may have the Power, Europeans are good philosopher that can play (setup ) Trump
Europeans are the greatest hypocrites on the planet. First, they claim to be American “friends”, but they have always ripped off America. They use their own money to build their country and cater for their citizens’ welfare, but American uses her own money to defend them. Even in this Ukraine war, their contribution is way below America’s. They preach democracy, but support dictators and autocrats in Africa. Let Europe come out with their full chest and claim to be rivals to America, so that America will treat them like China. They are complaining about not being invited to the table. When they were dividing Africa and creating artificial borders in Berlin and separated brothers into different countries, did they invite any African tribes?
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by franugo(m): 5:05pm On Feb 16, 2025
God1000:
as much as I hate the west, that's not how to treat allies, it was USA under Biden that pushed Ukraine this far with weapons and financial support, and it was done with European allies


This is a very bad foreign policy America is pursuing
Trump said it already before he was elected, he wants people to stop dying....I would prefer that Ukraine give up some land to a continuation of the needless war between Russia and Ukraine. If zelensky thinks he can continue the war without US arms and funds, he's mistaken. If he refuses to agree to peace, I'm sure someone in his country will move to overthrow him. People are dying, he cannot continue sitting behind a desk and sending more troops to their deaths
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by Cmanforall: 5:06pm On Feb 16, 2025
MERCHANDISER:
When the war ends,will Russia still play in European football?
Nice question

And future Olympics?

Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by franugo(m): 5:07pm On Feb 16, 2025
LegacyB:
By the time Trump is done with some people . Hitler and Stalin would be looking like a joke…
Your comment makes no sense bro
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by franugo(m): 5:13pm On Feb 16, 2025
teejoyz:
I think Ukraine should have plan B which is nuclear weapons since they have expertise, scientists and resources to build nukes. Trust Americans at your own peril. Africa expecially Nigeria should learn lessons too.
This is probably the most foolish comment I've seen on this thread. Firstly, Russia is decades ahead of any European country in nuclear armaments and technology, so much so that Ukraine could easily be vaporized in a day if they ever tried to bring nuclear arms into play.
Secondly, any attempt to activate nuclear weapons will be immediately rejected by all countries, that's why everyone signed the pact never to use nuclear weapons in any conflict. A violation of that pact will see the defaulting country being ganged up on, and it's not like nuclear scientists are just lining up to sign up for sure death by working on arming nuclear warheads for battle use...make una try dey reason before una make some kind comments
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by LegacyB: 5:16pm On Feb 16, 2025
franugo:
Your comment makes no sense bro
It can’t to your type I understand. And moreover ure not alone.
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by RodgersAkpafu: 5:16pm On Feb 16, 2025
Olatunji1929:
Nice one 👍 they don't want peace and they don't have balls to send troops to Ukraine so the best thing is for Trump to exclude them and if zelensky refuse to accept the outcome of the negotiations US will change zelensky in the next 3 months either by coup or election
They don't have balls to send troops to Ukraine?
That goes to show that you are very stuupid when it comes to the subject
The United Kingdom alone has thrown in the sink in their support for Ukraine

Financing, weapons, mercenaries, training, etc
Poland is ready to roll into Ukriane because their safety is at risk

But what do you know ?
It's Kool Aid you all are drinking
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by RodgersAkpafu: 5:18pm On Feb 16, 2025
d142475:
Europeans are the greatest hypocrites on the planet. First, they claim to be American “friends”, but they have always ripped off America. They use their own money to build their country and cater for their citizens’ welfare, but American uses her own money to defend them. Even in this Ukraine war, their contribution is way below America’s. They preach democracy, but support dictators and autocrats in Africa. Let Europe come out with their full chest and claim to be rivals to America, so that America will treat them like China. They are complaining about not being invited to the table. When they were dividing Africa and creating artificial borders in Berlin and separated brothers into different countries, did they invite any African tribes?
Another dullard saying dullard things
USA is "protecting Europe"
From who?

You really think Western Europe wouldn't be able to defend themselves against a weakened Russia ?
Use your brain nau
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by franugo(m): 5:18pm On Feb 16, 2025
TenQ:
It will seriously backfire.

If China decides to take Taiwan now, USA would be alone. NATO will refuse to honour their article 5.

USA under Trumpnis cutting itself of the leader of the free world.

Every man to his own tent!
Lol....you realize that US forces alongside Taiwanese forces can handle whatever China throws at them right?
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by johnjay4u2u(m): 5:19pm On Feb 16, 2025
USA and Russia to become friends soon.

What becomes of BRICS.
Let us not forget that India has been expelled from BRICS after their president's visit to USA.
Also Nigeria Just joined BRICS without thinking twice
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by greggng: 5:19pm On Feb 16, 2025
God1000:
as much as I hate the west, that's not how to treat allies, it was USA under Biden that pushed Ukraine this far with weapons and financial support, and it was done with European allies


This is a very bad foreign policy America is pursuing
Stop using the word America...this is entirely Trump's idea ...he doesn't follow rules or protocol . I won't be surprise if he turns to a dictator and refuse to live office ...now that he controls both houses...he can behave like dictators and amend the law to extend his mandate . He doesn't believe in rule of law ...sacking judges up and down ...if you refuse to do his biding your are fired . Only dictators does that
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by franugo(m): 5:21pm On Feb 16, 2025
LegacyB:
It can’t to your type I understand. And moreover ure not alone.
You're really not making sense man, I'm honestly trying to understand how initiating peace talks to end a needless war makes DJT worse than homicidal maniacs like Stalin and Hitler ....pls make it make sense
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by MrPresident1: 5:24pm On Feb 16, 2025
What does Europe want to go and do there when American is there well representing them?

The war as we have told you times without ceasing is between the king of the south (American and allies) and the king of the north (Russia and allies) so what does European want to go and do there?
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by Salowise: 5:45pm On Feb 16, 2025
Blazebond:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha,oh Europe,where have your importance gone,you allowed yourself to be fooled and deceived by your white cousins from America that your brother (Russia) is your enemy, meanwhile your true enemy was the cousin from America,now you are being treated like the fools that you are and I feel no ounce of pity for you because you (Europe) are paying for your foolishness. Fnck Europe,fnck the united states and fnck White supremacists everywhere around the world.
Russia attacked Ukraine now you call USA the enemy, does that really makes sense? Europe is not ready to spend money on their current war and even risk their soldiers yet want a third world war. They wànt USA to fight for them and also fight their war.
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by TenQ: 6:11pm On Feb 16, 2025
franugo:
Lol....you realize that US forces alongside Taiwanese forces can handle whatever China throws at them right?
If USA can betray Canada or European Union or Ukraine, why can it not betray Taiwan?
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by Hespee93: 6:15pm On Feb 16, 2025
Magnetic010:
Not like they were offering anything tangible to help Ukraine anyway so they should sit it out...Let their continental Lord and Saviour Go and negotiate on their behalf....A very shameless continent.... Imagine being told to sit out a negotiation that directly affects you by a country thousands of miles away from you
European countries will be regretting now why they answer US called to sanctioned all Russian citizens owing properties in their region forcing them to sell or handover their businesses.
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by franugo(m): 6:20pm On Feb 16, 2025
TenQ:
If USA can betray Canada or European Union or Ukraine, why can it not betray Taiwan?
If supporting Taiwan over China becomes disadvantageous to Americans, I'm sure DJT will pull out. DJT came riding on an America-first mandate and he's delivering it, I see nothing wrong with that. Imagine that our presidents actually do what they promised to do during campaigns, wouldn't we be much better off?
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by jaxxy(m): 6:30pm On Feb 16, 2025
if Europe can listen to Biden and his stupid international policies that led to the meaningless war they should damn well listen to trump and give him the benefit of doubt.
Re: Europe To Be Excluded From Russia-ukraine Peace Talks, US Envoy Confirms by TenQ: 6:31pm On Feb 16, 2025
franugo:
If supporting Taiwan over China becomes disadvantageous to Americans, I'm sure DJT will pull out. DJT came riding on an America-first mandate and he's delivering it, I see nothing wrong with that. Imagine that our presidents actually do what they promised to do during campaigns, wouldn't we be much better off?
The purpose of NATO is this: The strength of the Wolf is in the Pack!

Can you guarantee that NATO will join USA to fight China?

With what Trump has done No!


China is very close to Taiwan, the war will be logistically easier for them.

USA is far from China: thus they would require the NATO bases in the European countries.


Trump had acted extremely STUPIDLY in this case!


Imagine that before Negotiation had even started Trump has negotiated AWAY three solid factors! Where is that done?
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