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| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by naturefellow(m): 6:53pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
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| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by LegendHero(m): 6:55pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
Ojuntana:If you are caught for money laundering, the government can write the bank to place your bank account on a ban. How is that different from requesting Binance to ban the account? Are you this dumb? You are simply mixing things up. Money laundering as a crime in Nigeria has penalty of 3-7years imprisonment. Removal of accounts is not a penalty for money laundering in Nigeria.Lol, if you scam someone or you launder money and the gov’t come for you. They’ll place a hold on your account, ban you, and then jail you. Do you mean they will leave a criminal account to continue operating? Of course there can be cooperation. Twitter started banning some users in Nigeria after it agreed to cooperate with Nigerian govt on some issuesIt is not a matter of agree. We have jurisdiction to control anything within our space. If the government see Twitter is detrimental to Nigeria national security, we can ban them from our space. They will continue to operate in Nigeria but they won’t service Nigeria market except if you game the system by using VPN. That does not mean they are bound by Nigerian laws. According to Nigerian laws, if a bank or any financial institution aids and abets money laundering, the executives of the banks and the banks are liable to conviction and fine or imprisonment.They are bound by Nigeria law so far they operate in our space. Do you know Binance also integrate with bank infrastructure? They have APIs, they have to conform to our SEC regulations. The moment they enter the Nigeria space, they must conform to our Nigeria law. What is your level of education please? So if Binance was bound by our laws according to the screenshot you released, the Binance executives should be in jail right now or at least on the road to jail for aiding and abetting while Binance should be fined and not just some banning that can be truncated using VPNWhy is Yahaya Bello not in jail currently? Is it because he is not bound by Nigeria law? The law will first try him and if Binance official is not guilty, they release him. Tsefini. Another Nigerian laws expects financial institutions to report personal transactions exceeding 10m to NFIU. I'm sure you know how many Nigerians with the volume of dollars in their binance accounts have made such transactions. How many have Binance reported to NFIUThey must report it and if NFIU catch them, they are subject to disciplinarian action. USA have the same thing and one of my guy with Fintech firm in USA landed in jail simply because of this same exact thing. They are Nigeria guys operating a fintech FX transfer firm that fail to vet their customer and fail to report to the USA government. They are in jail as we speak. And your screenshot even says international law enforcement which means it might not necessarily be Nigerian law enforcementLol, what will Nigeria be called for someone in USA? Are we not international? You’re even dumber than I thought. |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by Jostoman: 6:57pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
Most of the wicked policy they are making now is to target the opposition political rival. |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by Blazetrailer: 7:03pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
...lol...our legend mumu don come again.LegendHero: |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by Sundaymessi: 7:04pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
LegendHero:So the Finance is no longer manipulating the Naira? Aboki FX is no longer manipulating the Naira? The Naira is now the world most stable currency! |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by LegendHero(m): 7:06pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
Sundaymessi:Yes, the naira has been stable for the past few months. Expect if you don’t know the meaning of currency stability. |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by Yelight(m): 7:15pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
Judolisco:Abeg where opposition dey see money siphon? |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by Ojuntana: 7:19pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
LegendHero:The main problem is that you've not been able to show anyone that's been charged or jailed on account of using binance for money laundering even after you claimed they blocked accounts You know why? Because binance refused to release data of users to Nigerian govt Can a Nigerian fin institution do that? That's your answer to your confusion |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by Cmeo(m): 8:03pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
Can one say Emefiele and his cohorts are opposition? |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by LegendHero(m): 8:10pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
Ojuntana:Yes, a Nigerian institution can deny to release their user data. It is the same way Apple denied the US government the same data years ago. If you are a strong company with good standing, you can oppose breach to your customer privacy through the same court. Apple denied FBI even for someone that shot at people and they never gave them the access to his data. If you have enough reason to prove in the court that the data is needed and court ask them to provide it and they fail to do that, a country can go ahead and sanction them. In Nigeria case, we can ban Binance operation in Nigeria legally and they must comply. If Binance are going to not respond, they will cite privacy law and go head to head with the government in court. It is the same way Binance will not reveal Bitcoin transaction log to the US government without thorough fight in court.
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| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by Ojuntana: 8:21pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
LegendHero:You have not read the Nigerian AML act. The efcc, nfiu and CBN have statutory rights to request details of accounts from a financial institution in Nigeria. Like I said, you've been writing from a lot of ignorance. How do you think they got all of Emefiele's transactions? What about those of Yahaya Bello you mentioned? You think a court will grant any govt institution warrant to access accounts of a sitting gov if they didn't already have the powers? The Apple example you're sharing, can Nigeria use its own laws to get Apple to release user data? Does Nigeria have jurisdiction over Apple since Apple phones are sold in Nigeria? |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by LegendHero(m): 8:27pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
Ojuntana:Stop saying nonsense. Binance will comply with the law because it is stated in their own policy. Below is their own website where they stated it. If Nigeria go through the court legally to demand the data and it’s within their policy, they will provide it. They can choose not to provide more personal information except you can show them the warrant from the court on the need. If you’re going to track unnamed opposition members, where will you get the court order? Nigeria government officials according to Binance in this case are asking for opposition members name and transaction details brought he backdoor and Binance have no legal reason to comply. https://www.binance.com/en/support/law-enforcement
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| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by Ojuntana: 8:36pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
LegendHero:You have switched again. I already told you to go and read Nigeria's AML act. Govt enforcement agencies don't need a court order to get your data from a financial institution. Efcc, Nfiu and CBN already have the statutory powers to do that. It's not a request. It's a legal requirement for all financial institutions in Nigeria. Binance is now telling you that they rejected that exact request and you're still here writing nonsense. Can first bank or NSE reject the request? Why do you think Nigerian politicians do a lot of cash transactions and hide monies with associates and fronts? You can even see from the screenshot you provided that they treat "requests" on a case by case basis which means they reserve discretion. Financial institutions in Nigeria don't enjoy such discretion. If efcc requests for the account details of LegendHero from his bank or NSE or stockbroking firm, they are duty bound to provide it. |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by stanisbaratheon: 8:44pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
Wait! Nigeria allowed a former US federal agent into the country to do business?? We are indeed daft in this country |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by LegendHero(m): 8:58pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
Ojuntana:Normally, CBN have some data they get directly from financial institution and firm like Binance. An example is KYC and it’s part of the AML act. Binance is covered under the same law but the difference is that while CBN can technically just confiscate and regulate Nigeria bank well, Binance data is more opaque considering the nature of cryptocurrency. So you would need them to provide the data using the legal way compared to how you treat a bank who you can easily track from transaction with other banks. Below is the act itself and any company transacting in Nigeria must comply. Binance is now telling you that they rejected that exact request and you're still here writing nonsense. Can first bank or NSE reject the request? Why do you think Nigerian politicians do a lot of cash transactions and hide monies with associates and fronts?No. Binance is telling you they rejected an illegal order for private data of targeted opposition members. Nigeria bank can also reject that same request unless if the court instruct them to. Why CBN can easily do that now is because they have back doors. You can just walk to a bank and ask them to give you Dangote transaction record, they won’t answer you. But CBN can still get it either way lawlessly through the back door. Even for Binance, CBN can still track their financial transactions so far they are dealing with Nigeria bank in how customer send money to each other for purchase. You can even see from the screenshot you provided that they treat "requests" on a case by case basis which means they reserve discretion.That’s because they also have to filter it to see if it is a lawful request. They all have lawyers that read the law of each country they are transacting business with to see which request is legal. That is the first thing companies do when they are entering another country space. So they will treat on a case by case and their legal dept will advise. And yes, there are instances where Nigeria bank deny EFCC of such record if they suspect foul play. EFCC themselves raise the alarm of the banking practice on their website where banks fail to comply because they want to protect their customer data. https://www.efcc.gov.ng/efcc/news-and-information/news-release/106-efcc-decries-unethical-bank-practices
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| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by Ojuntana: 9:24pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
LegendHero:Guy you're writing rubbish Which law says you can't release information if it's that of an opposition member? Be reading what you're writing na. Which kind silly claim is that? How did efcc get the Rivers state transactions of over 400bn they used to declare fubara wanted? Was Rivers not opposition then? Your thinking dey amaze me fa Binance is a financial institution as far as Nigeria's law are concerned. But they are not bound by Nigeria's laws. Laws are territorial in nature. Go and browse what's called jurisdiction and stop disgracing yourself abeg No bank can deny efcc financial data. You know how many bank MDs have court cases based on sabotage? |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by LegendHero(m): 9:37pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
Ojuntana:Any law has its limit. You are not under any obligation to respond to illegal request. If you target opposition specifically with no legal backing, no bank will listen to you unless you threaten them using unconventional means. QED. Which kind silly claim is that? How did efcc get the Rivers state transactions of over 400bn they used to declare fubara wanted? Was Rivers not opposition then? Your thinking dey amaze me faThey got it by following the law. Got a court judgement and then enforced it and bank comply. If EFCC had gone behind the normal law and request bank record by instructing bank leadership that they are witch-hunting oppositions, no bank will give them the data. Binance is a financial institution as far as Nigeria's law are concerned. But they are not bound by Nigeria's laws. Laws are territorial in nature. Go and browse what's called jurisdiction and stop disgracing yourself abegThey are bound by Nigeria law. Stop confusing yourself. The moment Binance start transacting with Nigeria customers, they are bound to follow our law, do KYC, and etc. If they fail, the penalty is that we can ban them from transacting with Nigeria and they must COMPLY! That is exactly why they closed the Nigeria business immediately CBN mandated them. If they are not bound by our law, they won’t listen! No bank can deny efcc financial data. You know how many bank MDs have court cases based on sabotage?They can deny EFCC if it is an illegal request. They deny them every damn time that even EFCC complain. |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by Ojuntana: 9:53pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
LegendHero:Can you show the court judgement efcc got before they accessed Rivers state account? You're just telling blatant lies Efcc have the right to request for financial data of any entity in Nigeria including the FG for your info So why did Binance decline the request for financial data from efcc? You've still not answered that one Give an example of efcc illegal request to a bank apart from the nonsense lies of opposition you lied. You're yet to quote the law that prohibited financial institution from releasing data of opposition members Oga Google Atuche, suleiman. They are two bank mds in court for obstructing efcc investigation. That if sterling's suleiman I know very well. You're just writing rubbish |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by LegendHero(m): 10:07pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
Ojuntana:EFCC did not tell you they request his bank details, they only declare him wanted based on suspicion and the court already trashed it out. Can you show us the details of his bank account that EFCC got? So why did Binance decline the request for financial data from efcc? You've still not answered that oneYou don’t even know what EFCC charge the guy with. Below is the charge. The data they are requesting about opposition member is secret and not in the open. It is an illegal order. EFCC and the Federal Inland Revenue Service (FIRS) charged Binance and its executives with tax evasion, money laundering, and forex violations. Give an example of efcc illegal request to a bank apart from the nonsense lies of opposition you lied. You're yet to quote the law that prohibited financial institution from releasing data of opposition membersThat’s because the law did not mandate officials to target “opposition” for witch hunting. You should know how the law work. If you arrest someone illegally without following the law, the judge might throw out your case. How can you say you are targeting someone/opposition for witch hunting sake like Binance person mentioned and you believe such order is legal? Oga Google Atuche, suleiman. They are two bank mds in court for obstructing efcc investigation. That if sterling's suleiman I know very well. You're just writing rubbishAtuche was jailed for fraud. How does that relate to our discussion?
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| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by Ojuntana: 11:05pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
LegendHero:Suspicion? ![]() This dude is a clown. Even if you read the screenshot you provided you'll see that it was Rivers State account that was being questioned not his personal account and Rivers govt had to rush to court to get a ruling to stop further investigation. That alone shows you lied that efcc can't get financial data of opposition members from banks. You're also mixing things up. Atuche had two cases in court. The second one was helping some guys to forge documents to conceal their fraud. Go and read up on it. There is nothing like opposition when it comes to applying laws. You're only writing nonsense. |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by ScamHunter: 11:24pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
LegendHero:You go through the courts and don't behave like thugs. It's called due process. |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by greatiyk4u(m): 11:41pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
Ojuntana:You are sound and should refrain from further arguments because you have been tutoring this guy for free yet he can't accept a new dimension because his mind is fix on an idea already Thanks for making our day |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by LegendHero(m): 11:41pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
ScamHunter:I agree it has to be due process |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by LegendHero(m): 11:45pm On Feb 14, 2025 |
Ojuntana:You are the clown. You don’t need a bank account to start probing a government. You can start by checking the contract they assign, the completion, and any fraudulent practice or reallocation of fund. Whistleblower can help and even government officials themselves can snitch. If it’s not about bank account, then how does it relate to our discussion? I don’t think you understand English. Stop parroting opposition everytime. Whether opposition or within government, you can’t go to a bank to get data on someone simply because you want to witch hunt them outside normal due process. Don’t be a clownn. You're also mixing things up. Atuche had two cases in court. The second one was helping some guys to forge documents to conceal their fraud. Go and read up on it.So that means they arrested him for forgery. How does that relate to our discourse? |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by Ojuntana: 12:01am On Feb 15, 2025 |
LegendHero:Oga read the screenshot you uploaded again. This is directly from it: The anti-graft agency violated the fundamental rights of the clients by investigating the Rivers state government account I already told you that you don't read. You just upload screenshots. How will efcc be investigating contract papers they don't have access to or do you think contracts of state govts are domiciled with efcc? Oga stop writing nonsense abeg. What I was pointing you to is that any bank that sabotages efcc investigation or deliberately tries to help the people being investigated had committed conspiracy to commit felony. Again, Binance was invited to Nigeria and they turned on the executives after they arrived in Nigeria. Still, Binance refused to release the info they wanted. No bank or financial institution can dare that in Nigeria |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by Vision101(m): 3:01am On Feb 15, 2025 |
This binance man is lying: 1. How did he know that the equipment were unplugged? 2. Will the legislatures think that he is senseless that they will be demanding bribe with cameras around them? 3. Hence he knew what they wanted why didn't he play along, pay and use it now against them. 4. Why is he getting into Nigeria's political issues concerning government policies or no government policies? 5. Why didn't he raise this issues why in detention? Bottom line: binance is a criminal financing organization. That's why they've convictions all over the world. The grounds on which they were convicted and they paid in USA if it had been in Nigeria they would have brought up the same sentiments that they are bringing up now knowing fully well the corruption perception of anything Nigeria. |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by Nobody: 5:36am On Feb 15, 2025 |
Vision101:I don't think he is really an American. I think he's one of those over-entitled Middle Easterners who because of oil are now narcissistic and because President Biden saved him, further fuelling his superpower feelings. He has the temerity to claim an FBI agent now; what a man at his nadir! Cryptocurrency dealers are criminals.Unless crypto- goes mainstream as it is in El-Salvador, people like him will continue to profit illegally. |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by temitope27(m): 1:31pm On Feb 17, 2025 |
Mitsurugi:old fool |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by Mitsurugi(m): 2:43pm On Feb 17, 2025 |
temitope27:Young buffoon |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by jaephoenix(m): 7:58am On Feb 21, 2025 |
Tunaji:You know absolutely nothing about crypto from this post. Instead if educating yourself, you'd rather talk ignorantly |
| Re: Nigerian Demanded Binance Users Data To Target Opposition – Gambaryan by jaephoenix(m): 8:02am On Feb 21, 2025 |
LegendHero:Are you aware there are other p2p which has been operating before your CBN Governor said that those p2p were manipulating Naira? P2p has been around for donkey years, so why was the 'manipulation' only recently 'discovered'? And don't you think you are being ignorant now saying Naira has been stable when p2p is still very much going on? |
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