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Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 6:59pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
My God YHWH is ONE and unlike ANYTHING in creation . He can be everywhere and somewhere at the same time

My God YHWH as the Holy Spirit fills EVERYWHERE
My God YHWH as the Father sits on His throne in Heaven
My God YHWH as the Word can be ANYWHERE

Again!
For a person whose God is a subset of the Universe!

Can your God be somewhere and everywhere at the same time? No!
Because he is just like mere men who cannot be somewhere and everywhere at the same time .

No wonder you are ashamed!
And he is ashamed to say it Loudly!
How can God be everywhere and somewhere?
Please explain using an example..
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 7:12pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
We don't serve the same God Mr Maximus, do you think you can Force it to be?
1. Is your God not a SUBSET of the Universe? He is a SUBSET!

2. Can your God be EVERYWHERE and SOMEWHERE at the same time? NO!

Where was God of the Jehovah's witnesses before he created heaven?

You have proven that you cannot answer the question. You needn't bother responding if you can't answer the Initial question!

Again: Don't feign Ignorance to the scripture before you. What does verse 10a say

From your fake translation
Exodus 24:9-11 NWT
9 Then Moses and Aaron, Naʹdab and A·biʹhu, and 70 of the elders of Israel went up.
10 And they saw the God of Israel. Under his feet was what seemed like a sapphire pavement, and it was as pure as the heavens themselves.
11 He did not harm the distinguished men of Israel, and they saw a vision of the true God; then they ate and drank



This is Your own fake translation! Always twisting the Bible to fit their doctrine

Can you check from the Hebrew interlinear if what they saw was a vision of God!


See deliberate lies from the JW organisation to fit their doctrine
You are confusing yourself up and down.
If God is everywhere and somewhere according to you, those that not mean he is omnipresent and also a subset of the universe?
Please enlighten me. Amen at a loss
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 7:13pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
Is your claim that they did see God in His full Glory?
Yes or No!

If you cannot respond clearly, have a nice day!
It is difficult curing one who is wilfully demonized!
Oga you have already answered the question na. You said they did not see God in His full Glory in Exodus 24:9-11. So please kindly tell us where you saw that statement in those verses if you are not twisting the word of God.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 7:17pm On Feb 19, 2025
sonmvayina:
You are confusing yourself up and down.
If God is everywhere and somewhere according to you, those that not mean he is omnipresent and also a subset of the universe?
Please enlighten me. Amen at a loss
Enlighten me about your own God too(if you have one)

My God YHWH is unlike anything in creation, thus he can be EVERYWHERE and SOMEWHERE at the same time .

Sorry if you don't understand as there is no physical examples I can use to describe this nature!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 7:20pm On Feb 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Is he still a dummy? smiley
Big one
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 7:20pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
Enlighten me about your own God too(if you have one)

My God YHWH is unlike anything in creation, thus he can be EVERYWHERE and SOMEWHERE at the same time .

Sorry if you don't understand as there is no physical examples I can use to describe this nature!
🤣🤣🤣If you can't find a physical example, can you kindly quote a verse in the bible that explains what you wrote in bold?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:23pm On Feb 19, 2025
sonmvayina:
Big one
OK! cheesy
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 7:24pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
Enlighten me about your own God too(if you have one)

My God YHWH is unlike anything in creation, thus he can be EVERYWHERE and SOMEWHERE at the same time .

Sorry if you don't understand as there is no physical examples I can use to describe this nature!
God is everywhere... omnipresent. Simple.

Which one is also "some where again?
Does not make any sense nah. He fills the heaven and the earth(universe) simple.
God is everywhere
And Everywhere is God.

God is the universal divine consciousness. Not a Jewish man up in the sky.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 7:27pm On Feb 19, 2025
sonmvayina:
God is everywhere... omnipresent. Simple.

Which one is also "some where again?
Does not make any sense nah. He fills the heaven and the earth(universe) simple.
God is everywhere
And Everywhere is God.
Does quantum physics make complete sense to you?

My God is far much more complex than quantum physics . You can only know what he showed you about Himself.

The statement: God is the universal divine consciousness is meaningless if he isn't a person/personality
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 7:27pm On Feb 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣If you can't find a physical example, can you kindly quote a verse in the bible that explains what you wrote in bold?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 7:40pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
Does quantum physics make complete sense to you?

My God is far much more complex than quantum physics . You can only know what he showed you about Himself.

The statement: God is the universal divine consciousness is meaningless if he isn't a person/personality
Where in the bible is the statement in bold?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 7:46pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
Does quantum physics make complete sense to you?

My God is far much more complex than quantum physics . You can only know what he showed you about Himself.

The statement: God is the universal divine consciousness is meaningless if he isn't a person/personality
Must people use "him" for God. For convenience sake

That is why a posted a picture of An ancient motif of Marduk with the universe as his cloak.

I wish I was talking to you now, it would be easier to explain.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 7:47pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
Does quantum physics make complete sense to you?

My God is far much more complex than quantum physics . You can only know what he showed you about Himself.

The statement: God is the universal divine consciousness is meaningless if he isn't a person/personality
God is consciousness..

The rest are my emphasis...most people use pure consciousness
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 7:49pm On Feb 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Where in the bible is the statement in bold?
That is what the entire Tanakh is talking about. God is our/the higher consciousness....

From Genesis to Malachi....
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 7:49pm On Feb 19, 2025
sonmvayina:
Must people use "him" for God. For convenience sake

That is why a posted a picture of An ancient motif of Marduk with the universe as his cloak.

I wish I was talking to you now, it would be easier to explain.
Him is used only because we have no human language to describe a Living Being who gave life and origin to everyone and everything else.

What you described is NOTHING and doesn't exist.
Is the Universe your God?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 7:52pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
Him is used only because we have no human language to describe a Living Being who gave life and origin to everyone and everything else.

What you described is NOTHING and doesn't exist.
Is the Universe your God?
The universe is God.
God is the entire universe....it is mental not physical.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 7:55pm On Feb 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Where in the bible is the statement in bold?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 7:55pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
Does quantum physics make complete sense to you?

My God is far much more complex than quantum physics . You can only know what he showed you about Himself.

The statement: God is the universal divine consciousness is meaningless if he isn't a person/personality
If he is a personality why are you not having conversation with him the way you do with your friends? Answer me please
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 7:57pm On Feb 19, 2025
sonmvayina:
The universe is God.
God is the entire universe....it is mental not physical.
This is meaningless bro!

Since the universe had a beginning, your God too must have a beginning. Your God is just 13.8billiion years old, isn't it?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 7:57pm On Feb 19, 2025
[quote author=TenQ post=134214112][/quote]Please define what you mean by "Everywhere" ?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 7:58pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
This is meaningless bro!

Since the universe had a beginning, your God too must have a beginning. Your God is just 13.8billiion years old, isn't it?
What was there in the beginning before creation started?

If your answer is God,

Then where did he creat the heaven and earth?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 7:59pm On Feb 19, 2025
sonmvayina:
If he is a personality why are you not having conversation with him the way you do with your friends? Answer me please
Who told you I don't have conversations with Him!?
He is NOT my mate and definitely not like my friends!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 7:59pm On Feb 19, 2025
sonmvayina:
What was there in the beginning before creation started?
NOTHING!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 8:01pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
Who told you I don't have conversations with Him!?
He is NOT my mate and definitely not like my friends!
Please can you record the conversations?

Send it to me please. Or you just there talking to yourself ?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 8:02pm On Feb 19, 2025
sonmvayina:
Please define what you mean by "Everywhere" ?
EVERYWHERE means that EVERYTHING in existence Physical and Spiritual are INSIDE my God YHWH!

That is the best my description of EVERYWHERE can go!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 8:02pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
NOTHING!
5/10

So there was no God before creation started?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:04pm On Feb 19, 2025
sonmvayina:
Please can you record the conversations?
Send it to me please. Or you just there talking to yourself ?
cheesy
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 8:05pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
EVERYWHERE means that EVERYTHING in existence Physical and Spiritual are INSIDE my God YHWH!

That is the best my description of EVERYWHERE can go!
The universe and YHWH which is bigger?

Or YHWH covers the whole universe?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:08pm On Feb 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Yawa don gas! cheesy

Rebellion is what's affecting all of you.

God chose Jesus to teach mankind and Jesus chose a group of men to teach the rest that's the setting.

So if anyone disregards this setting there will always be confusion and insults will be the result when you people are SCATTERED spiritually speaking. Luke 11:23

That's what REBELLIOUSNESS does to people none of you can boldly say this is the name of my church because you are rebellious as you don't want submission to any group of men {Hebrews 13:7} yet Jesus have set the standard by choosing a group of men through whom he will direct the affairs of his earthly group! Luke 6:13

That's why the group name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES often comes to your mind as you all can see a global family of peace loving worshipers all submissive to one group of anointed men! Act 2:42 smiley
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 8:11pm On Feb 19, 2025
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=134214336][/quote]Jesus was a confusion too.

He told some people to go follow the law

Some he told things that don't make sense..

Like somebody on crack.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 8:11pm On Feb 19, 2025
sonmvayina:
The universe and YHWH which is bigger?

Or YHWH covers the whole universe?
You seem not to get it.

The physical Universe and the Spiritual Universe is within (SUBSET) my God.

But your God is the Universe, isn't it?
He then must be a subset of my God YHWH!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 8:12pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
You seem not to get it.

The physical Universe and the Spiritual Universe is within (SUBSET) my God.

But your God is the Universe, isn't it?
He then must be a subset of my God YHWH!
What is outside of the universe?
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