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| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by OkCornel(m): 10:01pm On Feb 22, 2025 |
richie240:If you can believe I’m Igbo without evidence, then you can believe anything. Hilarious thought process |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by richie240: 10:27pm On Feb 22, 2025 |
I said laslas u be IGBOID (ss) and una don tell Nigerians say "se (igbo) and ss (IGBOID) are one". ![]() OkCornel: |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by OkCornel(m): 10:43pm On Feb 22, 2025 |
richie240:Who told you I’m from the SE or SS? 🤷 |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by Virginkpekus(f): 11:04pm On Feb 22, 2025 |
seanfer:Yes it's an igbo Coup...Babangida is just talking rubbish. Hope this settles the matter ![]() |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by seunayantokun(m): 11:47pm On Feb 22, 2025 |
[quote author=igbosarejews post=134251131][/quote]Attention: igboarejews. Your response is fallacious because you have misrepresented the direction of my post. Two, the quoted message you replied with obviously implies that IBB has said the truth , putting us in danger of seeing him as a truth sayer or credible source of those past events and so help him to achieve his dubious intent unawares. This is my worrisome observation — I don't know if that is your intention. The purpose of my post is that the published autobiography of IBB is an attempt to fraudulently launder his past so as to appear good to everyone. From what I've read so far, the crafty book employs truths, half-truths and complete untruths woven together to achieve its goal. My stance isn't whether the coup referred to was an Igbo one or not. So, you can defend your ethnic interest without making an innate lying machine a trustworthy fellow. Because of your reply, I will now comment on the coup issue so that you can see the dubiousness of that evil genius. While January 15th 1966 coup was originally not planned as an Igbo coup, it was perceived as such, especially in the north, given the fact that major beneficiaries of it were Igbo while others were licking their wounds and wiping their tears. Two, Late Gen Aguiyi Ironsi who was not reported to be one of the coup plotters, being an Igbo man, became head of state, threw the constitution out and introduced first time in Nigeria a unitary system of government which took away the freedom of self-governance that various ethnicities in Nigeria had until then enjoyed at regional level — the north gradually got hold of this virus through their people in the military and have since made Nigeria a unitary system which the Fulani today wouldn't let go because of their evil fulanisation agenda. Don't forget that if we had that constitution in place today, Nigeria could be like the UK, the US, Canada and other developed countries, but here we are with boko haram, ISIS, Fulani herdsmen terrorists, bandits, corruption, roguery, etc. Also, Ironsi did promotions of military officers which were massively in favour of the Igbo or officers from the Eastern Region. If it wasn't perceived as an Igbo coup, why did northern elements in the military organised a counter coup of July 29th 1966 during which they killed Ironsi and his friend Adekunke Fajuyi in Ibadan? Why did the federal or unitary government under Gowon not stop the killing of Igbo people in the north? If IBB believed it wasn't an Igbo coup, why did he participate in the consequent civil war of 1967 – 1970 in which a lot of base acrimony played a major part and war crimes were committed by soldiers of northern extraction? Why didn't he played a man of candour and courage like Lt Col Victor Banjo, a Yoruba man who fought on the side of Biafra though Ojukwu allegedly later betrayed and executed him on the grounds that were reportedly mere wishes and cooked up thoughts? Of course, Odumegwu later explained his side of the story, like everyone of the officers from all parts of Nigeria has been doing — the onus lies on us to research and get the truth. IBB also denies that he killed Dele Giwa. Who wants to believe that? Who then did it? I'm just laughing at his buffoonery. What kind of old man lies senselessly like that? Who annulled results of June 12 1993 presidential election which he just admitted MKO Abiola won? He has denied that while at the same time also indicating it was done in the interest of the country. He has also crafted another story to extricate himself from the responsibility saying it was Abacha who also used Nwosu, Nzeribe, Irabor, Akpamgbo, bla, bla, bla to do the deed. Nonsense! The evil in that is an aggravation of the current mutual distrust between the ethnicities involved, just because the old liar wants to look clean. Please, and please friend, don't ride on IBB's narrative horse, it is unnecessary risk-taking. |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by StUriah(m): 12:52am On Feb 23, 2025 |
Kewekubosineh:See how very stupid you are for not ignoring my comments. If I am born in the early 70s you think i shouldn't be your Papa's senior by now? Between 1966 and 1972 what's is he difference. Indomie that became your household name wasn't existing then. Yam legger! |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by princeade86(m): 5:11am On Feb 23, 2025 |
chopnaira:shebi u know more than IBB na |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by Ngozi123(f): 5:53am On Feb 23, 2025 |
Softmirror:How would admitting that it was an Igbo coup exonerate him? If anything, it would make him look like an innocent (yet naive) lamb who was tricked by the big bad Igbos into starting a war. Try and look at his objectively. What would people like IBB or Ademoyega gain by lying about this? ![]() |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by Ngozi123(f): 5:56am On Feb 23, 2025 |
richie240:Why would they even risk involving him if it was just intended to be an "Igbo coup"? Did any of the Northern soldiers bother to include Igbos in the counter coup of July 1966? ![]() |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by Ngozi123(f): 6:04am On Feb 23, 2025 |
Softmirror:This makes no sense as the Igbos have been saying this about Nzeogwu for ages. It's people like you who have been saying otherwise. |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by Ngozi123(f): 6:08am On Feb 23, 2025 |
givedemwotowoto:Exactly. If anything, IBB is trying to unite the North with the Igbos. We all know why certain people here are trying to dispute it. |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by richie240: 6:12am On Feb 23, 2025 |
So you are basically saying wale ademoyega was aware that all the political leaders of nigeria apart were to be killed [B]excluding[/b] those of igbós origin right? That makes a lot of sense. x ![]() Ngozi123: |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by Ngozi123(f): 6:18am On Feb 23, 2025 |
boxypane:Lord Lugard was a racist, imperialist bigot who (if alive to day) would regard you just a little above a monkey. Having him say this about my people is actually a compliment for me. The British liked people they could control. |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by givedemwotowoto(op): 6:24am On Feb 23, 2025 |
richie240:Haven’t you read his book? He said Azikiwe was not a target of the coup, he was only a ceremonial president. Just like you rarely hear of ceremonial University Chancellors, they’re not part of the day to day running of the country. He also admitted that failure to eliminate Aguyi Ironsi was due to operational failures and misunderstandings among them. These he wrote over 15 years after the coup. But believe your own lies though, this information is of no use to you |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by Ngozi123(f): 6:34am On Feb 23, 2025 |
richie240:Was Nzeogwu aware? Or is it by virtue of being Igbo that you just assume he was. |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by richie240: 6:54am On Feb 23, 2025 |
And in what way does all these dispute the fact that the coupists killed the military and political leaders of the west, north and midwest while none was touched from the east? Sebi na una get sense pass okwea?? Una go explain taya! ![]() Ngozi123: givedemwotowoto: |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by drugBaronTINUBU: 6:58am On Feb 23, 2025 |
Image123:Ademoyega is also speculative? |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by uchwar1: 7:04am On Feb 23, 2025 |
easzypeaszy:looking for unnecessary attention. If IBB had written against it is, u would have been jumping all over the thread with your hates, supporting IBB. What has your hatred and wickedness got to do with an Igbo man's reaction to your hatred? Grow up |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by Ngozi123(f): 7:28am On Feb 23, 2025 |
richie240:You act like there were hundreds of leaders involved and all were killed a part from the Igbo ones. Take away the tribal lense here and analyse what happened. The only Igbo leaders who would have been targeted were Nnamdi Azikiwe and Michael Okpara. The official reason for why Nnamdi Azikiwe left the country was because he was 'sick'. He might have been warned and heeded said warning but we don't know for sure if that was the reason he left. Other leaders like Akintola were warned but they did not flee. Michael Okpara being arrested but not killed may have been as a result of miscommunication. It's the same reason why Femi Fani-Kayode wasn't killed. This is all according to Fola Oyewole, who fought on the Biafra side during the war. https://dailypost.ng/2019/05/05/ex-biafra-soldier-oyewole-explains-zik-okpara-fani-kayode-not-killed-1966-coup/ A lot of people use conjectures to come to the conclusion that the coup was intended to put Igbo people in power but I really don't think that was the case. Why did they kill Tafewa Balewa if the mission was to put Aguiyi-Ironsi in power? If the Nigerian military were to takeover now, would they go ahead and kill Tinubu straight away? Wouldn't they just arrest him like what happened in Niger recently? The only reason I see is that they wanted to put someone else in a prime minister and that someone else was Awolowo. |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by boxypane: 9:57am On Feb 23, 2025 |
Ngozi123:You're correct in one way, but the fact that majority have not actually moved on from the incidence of that coup is causing lots of disunity. And that's why the issue of marginalization will forever remain a topic. Because of the actions of one man!!! And one thing is for a fact! The same Igbos are rebellious among themselves... |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by richie240: 12:09pm On Feb 23, 2025 |
Ngozi123:. Hehehehe..... u need not kill a million people. The moment you capture/kill their king, it's game over. You kill the leaders of other regions while yours weren't harmed in any way yet you expect an applause from those affected because you didn't kill "hundreds of their leaders" okwea?? Clap 4 yasef [Take away the tribal lense here and analyse what happened.Sorry brah, there's no other way a sane human will look at it apart from the 'tribal' angle in as much as those who perpetrated the heinous act weren't affected. The only Igbo leaders who would have been targeted were Nnamdi Azikiwe and Michael Okpara. [color=#990000]The official reason for why Nnamdi Azikiwe left the country was because he was 'sick'. He might have been warned and heeded said warning but we don't know for sure if that was the reason he left. Other leaders like Akintola were warned but they did not flee.Thanks for saying 'official'. We are much more interested in the 'unofficial' reasons why no igbo leader was killed yet there was a 100% success rate in other regions. Michael Okpara being arrested but not killed may have been as a result of miscommunication. It's the same reason why Femi Fani-Kayode wasn't killed. This is all according to Fola Oyewole, who fought on the Biafra side during the war.Hehehehehe ...why wasn't Sadauna of sokoto 'arrested' but killed?? **why wasn't Sadauna of sokoto's PREGNANT WIFE arrested but killed?? **Why wasn't okotie ebor arrested but killed **Why wasn't tafawa balewa arrested but killed?? **How come the coupists were made up of over 90% igbós yet the coup recorded 0% success rate in alaigbo but recorded 100% success rate in other regions?? https://dailypost.ng/2019/05/05/ex-biafra-soldier-oyewole-explains-zik-okpara-fani-kayode-not-killed-1966-coup/When was the last time the perennially clannish average igboman died for others?? The only thing that saved awo from the coupists' bullets was bcus he was behind bars or else his sorry ass would've been fried along with his non-igbo counterparts.![]() |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by OkCornel(m): 12:29pm On Feb 23, 2025 |
richie240:Arthur Unegbe is not an Igbo man I guess… |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by gabbytabby: 12:41pm On Feb 23, 2025 |
Babangida is your source of truth. givedemwotowoto: |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by professorPABX: 12:43pm On Feb 23, 2025 |
OkCornel:You are just talking nonsense online. I was advised to ignore you and your brothers that was why I restricted myself. Joe Garba and some officers at the front line are late now but we still have TY Danjuma one of the main man at front line and chief actor in the counter coup. Gowon came back from abroad few days to the coup and was in Lagos. On several sidelines Gowon and TY Danjuma have given some accounts. We have the privilege of hearing from some key actors when they were alive and some that are still alive. You don't know anything about military operations and coups. General TY Danjuma told Aguiyi Ironsi wife few years ago he had no regret for the counter coup. His report is the best report on what happened in both coups. You allowed the key people in your tribe to escape and executed the key people occupying sensitive position in other tribes. I can bet with anything till date, if you plan to kill an Hausa big trader in computer village, a Yoruba big trader in Computer Village and an IBO big trader in Computer Village on Sunday midnight against Monday morning, before this evening, the IBO big trader would have escaped while the Hausa and the Yoruba would have been eliminated. That is the state till today. You wanted to eliminate others and keep your brothers. Nothing has changed. There was coup earlier in Ghana it was purely military operations. I will not answer you again as earlier advised. |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by gabbytabby: 12:45pm On Feb 23, 2025 |
Nigeria is a country that lends itself to a lot of Narcissist that are mentally incapacitated. |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by Smartcitizen: 12:46pm On Feb 23, 2025 |
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| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by Thomasankara(m): 12:47pm On Feb 23, 2025 |
[/color]the coup was hijacked from Ademoyega and he would have even lost his life, if not for sheer luck. He was the initiator, but not the executor [color=#770077] givedemwotowoto: |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by Thomasankara(m): 12:52pm On Feb 23, 2025 |
[/color]Nnamdi was a toothless bulldog, he was a ceremonial president that would never sign bills[color=#770077] Lovelies1: |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by OkCornel(m): 1:04pm On Feb 23, 2025*. Modified: 1:33pm On Feb 23, 2025 |
professorPABX:Mention one successful coup in Nigeria where the coupists took over government without securing and controlling the armoury. I dare you to mention one. We are all waiting patiently to see who’s talking nonsense here. By the way, who are you referring to as my brothers? 🤷 |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by Yorubafather: 1:05pm On Feb 23, 2025 |
professorPABX:So you believe Ty Danjuma and Gowon then why did you reject IBB own? take your useless incoherent gibberish out of here, your comment makes no sense at all, spit
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| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by Yorubafather: 1:07pm On Feb 23, 2025 |
OkCornel:Don't mind that dude who end up making fool of himself ![]() |
| Re: Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni by richie240: 1:26pm On Feb 23, 2025 |
Arthur Unegbe wasn't slated for elimination. He was - to borrow the teminolgy of the average igbo - a 'sabo'. He stood in the way of the coupists when he blatantly refused to hand over the keys to the armoury. ![]() OkCornel: |
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The only thing that saved awo from the coupists' bullets was bcus he was behind bars or else his sorry ass would've been fried along with his non-igbo counterparts.