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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull: 10:43am On Feb 23, 2025
🇺🇸🇺🇦Now it's Starlinks' turn, but there's a nuance

According to Reuters, the US is considering cutting off Starlinks in Ukraine if Zelensky does not sign a deal on minerals.

As I said, if the US wanted to end the conflict, they would have turned off Starlink immediately without any conditions.

But it's business, nothing more.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull: 10:45am On Feb 23, 2025
🇺🇸🇪🇺🇺🇦🇷🇺Trump has given Europe three weeks to sign Ukraine's "capitulation," Ukrainian MEP Mika Aaltola said.

His words are quoted by Newsweek, which writes that the deputy is referring to the peace agreement proposed by Trump.

"If we don't do this, the United States will leave Europe," Aaltola added.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 11:06am On Feb 23, 2025
⚡No Russia-U.S. meeting is being prepared for February 25 in Riyadh, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Ryabkov told TASS.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 11:10am On Feb 23, 2025
⚡The US is not asking Ukraine to give up its mineral resources or plunge into debt — US Treasury Secretary Bessent.

The terms of the mineral agreement are designed to prevent corruption during Ukraine's recovery, he added.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by ariesbull: 11:41am On Feb 23, 2025
Zelensky has broken all the records of stupidity.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 11:43am On Feb 23, 2025
⚡Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán says Hungary will decide Ukraine’s EU membership, emphasizing that Kyiv will NEVER join the bloc without Hungary’s consent.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 12:04pm On Feb 23, 2025
Gbadebo19:
In all I know, the rebels funded by the USA to defeat ISIS were:
1. The Free Syrian Army
2. The Syrian democratic forces
3. Harakat Nour Al-Din Al-Zenki
4. Jaysh Al Islam.

Of all the above, I am not aware of any that later turned into a terrorist organisation. Tell me of any if you know. Take note that Turkey labelled The SDF (largely made up of PKK and YPG fighters) as Terrorist organisation just because they were against the Turkish government but if we go back to our definition of "terrorist" we see that they do not satisfy the definition as there are no verifiable records of them attacking civilians except from "Nairaland busy body and jobless journalists🤡🤡."

Secondly, several other groups were also funded by Turkey, Saudi and Qatar.
This brings to memory how one fellow on this thread desperately tried to paint the YPG a terrorist group..
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 12:45pm On Feb 23, 2025
ariesbull:
Zelensky has broken all the records of stupidity.
It called reverse phycology

What ever issues you face you push it and say the other person is facing it

That how Cia teaches there tools to behave

Example
When ever you see Ukraine dying for cia to know how many people died zelensky will come say 50k Russian men died in that strike so he is indirectly saying the number of his men that are dead

So his handler can understand
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 12:55pm On Feb 23, 2025
ariesbull:
Zelensky has broken all the records of stupidity.
This fool no know say na still brotherly love, Russia dey use handle Ukrainians.

Reconstruction costs, plus dem no wan expend too much resources on one country when 32 countries dey wait them. Dem know say na wetin NATO been expect.

Russia for show Ukraine shege.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by freakyamanda(f): 1:44pm On Feb 23, 2025
Please answer the following questions:

1. Did the US fund rebels to overthrow Assad?
2. Did some of those rebels later become terrorists?
3. Was American weapons given to them later found with ISIS?
4. Did Iran fight against ISIS in Iraq?
Gbadebo19:
In all I know, the rebels funded by the USA to defeat ISIS were:
1. The Free Syrian Army
2. The Syrian democratic forces
3. Harakat Nour Al-Din Al-Zenki
4. Jaysh Al Islam.

Of all the above, I am not aware of any that later turned into a terrorist organisation. Tell me of any if you know. Take note that Turkey labelled The SDF (largely made up of PKK and YPG fighters) as Terrorist organisation just because they were against the Turkish government but if we go back to our definition of "terrorist" we see that they do not satisfy the definition as there are no verifiable records of them attacking civilians except from "Nairaland busy body and jobless journalists🤡🤡."

Secondly, several other groups were also funded by Turkey, Saudi and Qatar.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by freakyamanda(f): 1:48pm On Feb 23, 2025
Please change the bolder to assad. The US funded these groups to defeat Assad, not ISIS. Some of them have extremist Islamist ideology and are offshoots of Al Qaeda. You are already stressing me on this topic and it's not fair.

Gbadebo19:
In all I know, the rebels funded by the USA to defeat ISIS were:
1. The Free Syrian Army
2. The Syrian democratic forces
3. Harakat Nour Al-Din Al-Zenki
4. Jaysh Al Islam.

Of all the above, I am not aware of any that later turned into a terrorist organisation. Tell me of any if you know. Take note that Turkey labelled The SDF (largely made up of PKK and YPG fighters) as Terrorist organisation just because they were against the Turkish government but if we go back to our definition of "terrorist" we see that they do not satisfy the definition as there are no verifiable records of them attacking civilians except from "Nairaland busy body and jobless journalists🤡🤡."

Secondly, several other groups were also funded by Turkey, Saudi and Qatar.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Blakjewelry(m): 1:58pm On Feb 23, 2025
Gbadebo19:
As much as this sounds probable, I don't see the possibility of annihilation for America, Russia and the likes.
First, the Russians have a doomsday weapon called the perimeter. There have been several reports (though unconfirmed) that the final control of this doomsday weapon is with some people whose abode is in deep underground bunkers under the Ural mountains. So, the box carried about by Putin is just one step out of many processes. That's exactly not where I am going. The Americans also have a similar system.

If there are people who live in deep underground bunkers for this purpose, I am tempted to believe to a certain extent that the main purpose of them being there is in essence to survive a first strike of nuclear weapons. These set of people can then go on to continue the existence of the affected country. When you bring some other factors into play such as the control of the 10 most heavily guarded places on earth, you will see that as long as these people (no matter how small in number) survive a first time nuclear strike, they will be in control of the most essential things that will make humanity to keep existing. (The seed bank in Norway i.e, food, is just one of of them). As long as these few people control food, money and some other things, then the idea of annihilation is not possible.
It is far more complex than you think. Surviving the the initial impact is one thing surviving the long term effects is another thing if not, one mad idiot would push the button and hope for world restart.

Overpopulation is bad for the world so is underpopulation. If the human population falls below certain threshold we may not reproduce fast enough to repopulate couple with high radiation and toxicity in the atmosphere means more damage cells for reproduction plus hunger killing off the young, that is recipe for extinction. We seen many species go extinct with far less than what we will experience in the case of nuclear war.

Now when talk of nuclear power, we are talking about the nucleus of the atoms. When we split heavier atom like Uranium 235 or plutonium into lighter elements we get an atomic bomb which was used on japan, one big flaw with the a bomb is that it leaves radioactive waste behind which can last a hundred to thousand to decay making the site unfit for human habitation.

Then come the mother of all bombs the H or hydrogen bomb, unlike fission which split the atom, this involve fusing to light element in this case the isotope of hydrogen, deuterium and tritium to create heavier element releasing the power of the sun.
Now for comparison, the atomic bomb dropped on Nagasaki is just a small 5kg plutonium and able to 21 kilo ton of tnt now early test on hydrogen was able to 1000x the power of what destroy japan.

I believe Russia, usa, China the UK all have enough have enough combine fire power to destroy the world, don't let anyone fool you. Even some group scientist who task with working on a way to build the first H bomb argue against because they know the destructive power in the hands of men.

So yes those bunkers are built so that incase of sensors automation fails to retaliate incase of an attack, the president will be alive to respond accordingly but at the end, they are just postpone their own demise.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 2:12pm On Feb 23, 2025
⚡Vladimir Putin met with Chief Rabbi of Russia Berel Lazar and President of the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia Alexander Boroda in the Kremlin.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 2:13pm On Feb 23, 2025
WritterNg:
⚡🇷🇺 Vladimir Putin met with Chief Rabbi of Russia Berel Lazar and President of the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia Alexander Boroda in the Kremlin.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 3:05pm On Feb 23, 2025
⚡American Airlines plane from NYC diverting to Rome due to reported bomb threat

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 3:08pm On Feb 23, 2025
⚡Polish President Andrzej Duda waited outside Trump's door for 1.5 hours to speak to him for 10 minutes.

The meeting was scheduled to last an hour, Notes From Poland reported.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 3:12pm On Feb 23, 2025
⚡Chief of Staff of the Swiss Armed Forces Thomas Süssli has said that Switzerland could provide around 200 soldiers for a peacekeeping mission in the border region between Ukraine and Russia for a period of nine to 12 months. At the same time, he stressed the country's commitment to neutrality.

Süssli noted that it is important to distinguish between peace enforcement and peacekeeping missions. The former implies the use of military force, which is out of the question for Switzerland, while peacekeeping is only possible if there is a ceasefire and Russia and Ukraine agree to the deployment of UN peacekeepers.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 3:14pm On Feb 23, 2025
freakyamanda:
Please change the bolder to assad. The US funded these groups to defeat Assad, not ISIS. Some of them have extremist Islamist ideology and are offshoots of Al Qaeda. You are already stressing me on this topic and it's not fair.
You are literally trying to have a conversation with a walking basket.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 3:41pm On Feb 23, 2025
⚡Trump's envoy Steven Witkoff:

The war didn't need to happen. It was provoked. It doesn't necessarily mean it was provoked by the Russians.

There were all kinds of conversations back then about Ukraine joining NATO. That didn't need to happen. It basically became a threat to the Russians.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:43pm On Feb 23, 2025
freakyamanda:
Please answer the following questions:

1. Did the US fund rebels to overthrow Assad?
2. Did some of those rebels later become terrorists?
3. Was American weapons given to them later found with ISIS?
4. Did Iran fight against ISIS in Iraq?
I don't understand how you suddenly brought Assad into the picture. If I remember, we were talking about ISIS and if you want me to replace ISIS with Assad, you need to bring convincing proof for that. It's not possible to agree with you just because you have a different belief. You need to bring proof, not just any proof but convincing proofs.
For instance, everybody is aware of US funding rebel groups to defeat ISIS.
I see You are only trying to lump two parallel matters into one just to prove a point. Everyone knows that the CIA orchestrates regime change, (that's a totally different issue to be thrashed). Right now, the matter is about whether the rebel groups funded by the US to defeat ISIS were Terrorist groups which no evidence exists for.
You don't have to lump the agenda to defeat ISIS into the Assad overthrow to prove a point.
Freaky, you would be a very bad witness in court oooo. You go spoil case for person oo 🤣🤣🤣
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:45pm On Feb 23, 2025
shoodboi2:
You are literally trying to have a conversation with a walking basket.
This one is still reeling from yesterday's hammering.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 3:45pm On Feb 23, 2025
⚡Zelensky:

I am ready to resign from the presidency for peace or Ukraine's accession to NATO.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:48pm On Feb 23, 2025
WriteerNg:
⚡Zelensky:

I am ready to resign from the presidency for peace or Ukraine's accession to NATO.
This fake journalist, your eyes go soon clear 🤣🤣🤣
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 3:51pm On Feb 23, 2025
⚡The condition for the return of foreign brands to the Russian market could be the placement of their shops in Crimea, Donbass and Novorossiya, First Deputy Prime Minister Manturov said.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 3:55pm On Feb 23, 2025
freakyamanda:
Please change the bolder to assad. The US funded these groups to defeat Assad, not ISIS. Some of them have extremist Islamist ideology and are offshoots of Al Qaeda. You are already stressing me on this topic and it's not fair.
Your position is based on mere suspicion.
If I am to base mine also on suspicion, I would say that if any group was funded to overthrow the Assad regime, it was most likely done by the Turkish government. The position of the Turkish government during and after the overthrow is even enough proof for that.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 3:59pm On Feb 23, 2025
⚡Zelensky:

I know how to sign deals with serious people.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 3:59pm On Feb 23, 2025
⚡Zelensky:

I am not even ready to discuss paying $100 billion to Washington because part of it was a grant, not a loan.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 4:01pm On Feb 23, 2025
freakyamanda:
Please answer the following questions:

1. Did the US fund rebels to overthrow Assad?
2. Did some of those rebels later become terrorists?
3. Was American weapons given to them later found with ISIS?
4. Did Iran fight against ISIS in Iraq?
Let me answer your questions here.
1. Nope. Turkey did
2. Nope. I already gave you the four rebel groups I know of and none of them later became terrorists.
3. That is not a question. How the weapons changed hands is a thing to consider before you arrive at a conclusion. The weapons could have been captured from defeated units. If Storm Shadow missiles are found in Russian inventory, does than mean it was the British government that gave it to them?
4. Yes. Iran fought against ISIS in Iraq.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 4:01pm On Feb 23, 2025
WriteerNg:
⚡Polish President Andrzej Duda waited outside Trump's door for 1.5 hours to speak to him for 10 minutes.

The meeting was scheduled to last an hour, Notes From Poland reported.
grin

The dude no longer begs for weapons for Ukraine unlike before when Biden

Was in power grin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 4:03pm On Feb 23, 2025
WriteerNg:
⚡Chief of Staff of the Swiss Armed Forces Thomas Süssli has said that Switzerland could provide around 200 soldiers for a peacekeeping mission in the border region between Ukraine and Russia for a period of nine to 12 months. At the same time, he stressed the country's commitment to neutrality.

Süssli noted that it is important to distinguish between peace enforcement and peacekeeping missions. The former implies the use of military force, which is out of the question for Switzerland, while peacekeeping is only possible if there is a ceasefire and Russia and Ukraine agree to the deployment of UN peacekeepers.
Don't be afraid no one needs your useless army there grin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 4:05pm On Feb 23, 2025
WriteerNg:
⚡Trump's envoy Steven Witkoff:

The war didn't need to happen. It was provoked. It doesn't necessarily mean it was provoked by the Russians.

There were all kinds of conversations back then about Ukraine joining NATO. That didn't need to happen. It basically became a threat to the Russians.
Let UK USA evil nato lap dogs read it and lament and say it wrong grin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 4:07pm On Feb 23, 2025
WriteerNg:
⚡Zelensky:

I am ready to resign from the presidency for peace or Ukraine's accession to NATO.
Comedian you said you don't need to resign before

That you needed weapons >: grin grin

Who wins war by begging for weapons all over the world

No one >: grin
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