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Gabrielshow24:
For the sake of innocent readers, what Max commits here is slothful induction fallacy!!!

Where against overwhelming evidence that Jesus is not Michael, he still insists for the furtherance of his own personal or denominational beliefs that Jesus is.

Also what he also commits is the famous correlation means causation fallacy!!!

Apart from this, he is also heavily involved in hasty generalization, false equivocations, appeal to population, appeal to hypocrisy, appeal to authority (posting one actor's statement), motte and Bailey(attack his posits then he retreats to drawing comparisons with Jesus or mentioning things like true believers showing works) and straw God/man fallacy which are direct consequents of his false antecedents!!!

A sane person won't take you serious!!!
You're intellectually dishonest and incoherent!!!

At best your comprehension is that of a five year old!!!

And I have told you before that if you continue this way, I will expose you for the liar you're.

All the times we had an discussion, you saw how you were vanquished!!!

You were mocking StillDtruth of not being at your intellectual level, now here is one with a baby's🙃 intellectual level and yet you're scrambling! Can't seem to face the problem topic at hand, always eluding🥲.

This is just the beginning!!!

Gabrielshow24:
Of course, I do.
Now do you allude to the JW 'fact' that Jesus is Michael 🤨?

Your fellow Trinitarians believed Jesus is archangel Michael.
See the names of eminent Trinitarians believing Jesus is archangel Michael.

It's a well known doctrine of Christendom.

The doctrine dey pain you because your knowledge of the Bible is very shallow.
Don't be deceiving yourself

Janosky:
Your fellow Trinitarians believed Jesus is archangel Michael.
See the names of eminent Trinitarians believing Jesus is archangel Michael.

It's a well known doctrine of Christendom.

The doctrine dey pain you because your knowledge of the Bible is very shallow.
Don't be deceiving yourself

Janosky:
Your fellow Trinitarians believed Jesus is archangel Michael.
See the names of eminent Trinitarians believing Jesus is archangel Michael.

It's a well known doctrine of Christendom.

The doctrine dey pain you because your knowledge of the Bible is very shallow.
Don't be deceiving yourself

immaculatesense:
You have said the truth sir. Any trinitarian that claim that Jesus and the Father are equal in existence, authority and being is not following the exact teachings of Jesus himself who clearly stated that the Father is greater than him and that he derived his power from the Father who is his God.
I am not loyal to denomination and I don't need anyone to agree. The Trinity doctrine in its originality relates only to Salvation and not authority. The Father planned the salvation of mankind, Jesus died for that salvation, and after his ascension, he sent the spirit to guide the saved ones into all truth. The three are one (united in purpose). That should be the message of Trinity. Any step beyond that to say the oneness means one is not greater than the other is nothing but myopic. The Father is the One True God, Jesus is the Son of God whom God has raised to his right hand in the God class and the spirit is of God whom he has sent to guide and preserve the called. That is my comprehensive submission on the Trinity topic over the years.
Thanks.

Gabrielshow24:
These surely cannot be witnesses of Jehovah, they are witnesses of themselves!!!

Janosky:
Why is the same ghost revealing conflicting info to Trinitarians?

Janosky:
Your comments noted Sir.

The intriguing fact is all the different explanations of the Trinity are conflicting and contradictory.
This leads to the question:

Why is the same ghost revealing conflicting info to Trinitarians?

immaculatesense:
I do not know why it should be conflicting sir.

Gabrielshow24:
I applaud you for your sincerity!!!

You're different from him🥲.
Even the verses they allude to condemns them!!!

I remember when I asked your friend, Max, how he would reconcile the phrase "one of the chief princes" with other characteristics of Jesus, you should have seen the way he reinvented set theory🤣🤣🤣.

Coining the term "First set" 🙃.
It's nice having a logical discourse with you.

It's shows you are indeed harmless as a dove and wise as a serpent🙃.

Gabrielshow24:
What your foolishness failed to inform you is that,

"Angel of the Lord and Angel Michael" - are two different things.

Also are you appealing to these men to prove your point? 🤦🏾‍♂️

You are no different than Max, no wonder birds of the same feather flock together.

"Argumentum ad populum🤨."

You can do better than this 🤧,
Janosky, am really disappointed 🥲.

Or is Logic far from JW? 🤔
Surely, it shouldn't be far from the witnesses of Jehovah🤔.
These surely cannot be witnesses of Jehovah, they are witnesses of themselves!!!

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*Jesus is senior over Satan, therefore the head of all Principalities and powers in heaven and earth.

*The promised seed of Genesis 3:15 defeated the serpent of Genesis 3:15, your Bible said he is archangel Michael.
There is only one archangel leading angels into battle and Victory, the Commander of Yahweh's Army, Joshua 5:13-14, every Bible scholar agrees he is Jesus Christ, the angel of Yahweh (the LORD, Yahweh is the LORD @ Psalms 110:1. Gab,Are you ready to receive sense?).
Matthew 25:31, 2 Thess 1:7-8. Daniel 12:1, Daniel 10:13.

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John the apostle revealed he is Jesus Christ the word leading angels into battle & victory, Revelation 19:14, and defeated the serpent of Revelation 12:7-9 and Genesis 3:15 & 1 John 3:8

MaxInDHouse:
What you failed to understand is that the Holy Spirit only teaches where Jesus is the invisible chairman and Jesus only attends such meeting where two or three are GATHERED TOGETHER {Matthew 18:20} not just one person imagining things alone!

Gabrielshow24:
I applaud you for your sincerity!!!

You're different from him🥲.
Even the verses they allude to condemns them!!!

I remember when I asked your friend, Max, how he would reconcile the phrase "one of the chief princes" with other characteristics of Jesus, you should have seen the way he reinvented set theory🤣🤣🤣.

Coining the term "First set" 🙃.
It's nice having a logical discourse with you.

It's shows you are indeed harmless as a dove and wise as a serpent🙃.

immaculatesense:
Maxim. Your point is not wrong but also no entirely true. Peter's confession on the Cornelius conversion shows that the holy spirit minister to him alone about salvation to the Gentiles even when other thought differently. Acts 11. But that personal revelation changed the dynamics. It is true that we learn more in fellowship, but it is not true that the individual cannot be taught by the spirit individually. But I get your point sir on fellowship.

Janosky:
MUMU WAILER

*Jesus is senior over Satan, therefore the head of all Principalities and powers in heaven and earth.

*The promised seed of Genesis 3:15 defeated the serpent of Genesis 3:15, your Bible said he is archangel Michael.
There is only one archangel leading angels into battle and Victory, the Commander of Yahweh's Army, Joshua 5:13-14, every Bible scholar agrees he is Jesus Christ, the angel of Yahweh (the LORD, Yahweh is the LORD @ Psalms 110:1. Gab,Are you ready to receive sense?).
Matthew 25:31, 2 Thess 1:7-8. Daniel 12:1, Daniel 10:13.

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John the apostle revealed he is Jesus Christ the word leading angels into battle & victory, Revelation 19:14, and defeated the serpent of Revelation 12:7-9 and Genesis 3:15 & 1 John 3:8

Gabrielshow24:
You are dealing with a baby's intellect, so I will break down everything into its basic form and from there we will indeed see who is foolish!!!

This is your wisdom: Jesus is senior over head of principalities, Jesus is the defender of the elect/Israel!, Jesus is the seed of man that must defeat Satan, Jesus is coming in with Archangels voice, now on the other hand Michael was the one that cast out Devil and his Angels, Michael is the one that will rise up for Israel in that day, Michael is the only mention of an Archangel hence by simple equivocations Michael should be Jesus🤧

But it's not that simple my dear, what your feeble mind failed to accommodate is that the self same verses condemn your conclusion.

I don't even need to go far, your favorite verse condemns you, this phrase!!!
"One of the chief princes" !!!
Now I ask you what is the literal meaning for archangel🤔?

And if it means what I suppose it means, I see no difference between it and chief prince🤧
And if indeed Michael is one of the chief princes then indeed as a consequence there are more Archangels!!!

Now you run into the same problem your good ol' friend Max ran in, How to reconcile Christ superiority over other Angels?

Perhaps you will continue from where he left off by finishing his work - primus conventus!!!(First set)

I remember your friend in his treatise gave a rather incredulous explanation by saying "these were the first angels to engage with God directly" which begs the question, were they not all created at the same time? Which he had no answer to!!! 🤔

I can give you all the slippery slopes of your posits!!!
And in all, you will fall into a dilemma🤧.
This is a foolish doctrine, for those that can't think deeply and analyze all its implications from 🤔 scriptures.

And as a consequent of this, you have done nothing but bring forth false equivocations!!! and leaning on correlation to infer causation 🥲!!!

Oga, you don't know the meaning of the Hebrew word translated "One" at Daniel 10:13 @ Genesis 10:25 & Genesis 4:19,.
Don't come online to prove your knowledge of the Bible is shallow .
Go and verify the meaning of Hebrew hayat.
Please cure your delusion.

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Let the holy Bible expose your folly.

Oga, whose voice will resurrect the dead in your Bible?
Who is angel of Yahweh @ Joshua 5:13-14?

Gabrielshow24:
Now you run into the same problem your good ol' friend Max ran in, How to reconcile Christ superiority over other Angels?

Janosky:
Let the holy Bible expose your folly.
Oga, whose voice will resurrect the dead in your Bible?

Janosky:
Let the holy Bible expose your folly.

Oga, whose voice will resurrect the dead in your Bible?

Gabrielshow24:
Jesus 🤔.
If you remove with an archangel's voice, the phrase still passes its intended meaning!!!

Perhaps if they had written Jesus will resurrect the dead "with a pen🤔" , perhaps you would have also equated Jesus to a pen🤨 or perhaps if they had written "with a lion's roar" 🤔, you would posit Jesus a literal Lion🤧.

Can you see where am going with this?🤨
That's not definitive proof to conclude👀.

I wonder how a sane person can use this to show Jesus is an Archangel.🤧

John 5:28 =1 Thessalonians 4:16.

John 5:28
Don’t be so surprised! Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves will hear the voice of God’s Son",

Oga,Are you taking notes or you want to confirm your folly?

MaxInDHouse:
Was Peter TAUGHT anything new that all other Christians don't know?
Ọmọ Jesus commanded that they will go to all the nations and make disciples {Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8} so that is not a new teaching others don't know but when it's time to learn new thing that may cause a division the little group leading the entire Christian organization global must come together for the holy spirit to lead them into scriptural truths. Act 15:28-29

Holy Spirit will never ever teach contradicting things!

Gabrielshow24:
I applaud you for your sincerity!!!

You're different from him🥲.
Even the verses they allude to condemns them!!!

I remember when I asked your friend, Max, how he would reconcile the phrase "one of the chief princes" with other characteristics of Jesus, you should have seen the way he reinvented set theory🤣🤣🤣.

Coining the term "First set" 🙃.
It's nice having a logical discourse with you.

It's shows you are indeed harmless as a dove and wise as a serpent🙃.

Genesis 4:19, Genesis 10:25, Daniel 10:13, the Hebrew word translated "One " meaning the same thing.

When you know that meaning, you cure your delusion.

Janosky:

John 5:28 =1 Thessalonians 4:16.
John 5:28
Don’t be so surprised! Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves will hear the voice of God’s Son",
Oga,Are you taking notes or you want to confirm your folly?

Janosky:

John 5:28 =1 Thessalonians 4:16.

John 5:28
Don’t be so surprised! Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves will hear the voice of God’s Son",

Oga,Are you taking notes or you want to confirm your folly?

Janosky:
Genesis 4:19, Genesis 10:25, Daniel 10:13, the Hebrew word translated "One " meaning the same thing.

When you know that meaning, you cure your delusion.

immaculatesense:
The holy spirit teaches new things sir.
Jesus didn't teach everything to his disciples when he was with them. He knew the holy spirit will complete that.
John 16:12-13
[12]“There is so much more I want to tell you, but you can’t bear it now.
[13]When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own but will tell you what he has heard. He will tell you about the future.

Gabrielshow24:
So according to you: " Jesus coming with an archangel's voice" is a strong indication that he is archangel, the same way I can say he is Chinese🤔 because he comes with a fan anyway🙃 -

Now you are using the well known fact that Jesus is the son of God and by this using the law of transitivity. You arrive at Michael is the son of God or rather put son of God is Michael 🤨.

I have mentioned and dealt with all this already, it's nothing but false equivocations👀.

John 5:25,28 = 1 Thessalonians 4:16.
Oga, get out of this forum.
You no know anything

WAILING WAILER deceiving himself.
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Janosky:
John 5:25,28 = 1 Thessalonians 4:16.
Oga, get out of this forum.
You no know anything
WAILING WAILER deceiving himself.
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Janosky:
John 5:25,28 = 1 Thessalonians 4:16.
Oga, get out of this forum.
You no know anything

WAILING WAILER deceiving himself.
.

Gabrielshow24:
🤔You are indeed full of false equivocations, we all know when the Hebrew word for "one" could mean unity and when it doesn't 🤦🏾‍♂️.

You're just looking for every means necessary to fit 🧐your narrative🤦🏾‍♂️....

Or do you want to be like that Nigerian judge and redefine the meaning of "and"? When we all knew the meaning of "and"...

Dazzle me more🥲

one named Adah and the other Zillah.

New Living Translation
Lamech married two women. The first was named Adah, and the second was Zillah"

Hebrew lexicon 259 ehad meaning FIRST @ Daniel 10:13 @ Genesis 10:25 @ 1 Chronicles 1:19.
Screenshot evidence

Archangel Michael is the First (Oga of Angels), the Commander of Yahweh's Army. Confirmed.

Oga, carry your ignorance out of this forum.
You no know anything but you dey make empty rants.