₦airaland Forum

My people, let us discuss this scenario.

Let's assume your just got married and you have the power to see the future, now, looking into the future, you discovered that your wife will get pregnant and give birth to the biggest armed robber in Nigeria who will end up killing thousands of people, will you still go ahead and have that child assuming you have the power to prevent the pregnancy of that particular child?

I need your honest answer to this question.

Now, The Christian God is all knowing, Omnipresent and Omnipotent. He is in the future and the past at the same time.
At the time he created Lucifer he knew he was going to rebel and lead people astray, cause so much pain to his creation, why was Lucifer created?

Are we going to blame Satan for being bad or blame a God who knew Lucifer was going to be bad before creation?

Or is the concept of God and Satan a fairytale?

What is your opinion to the above?

Nnamdipapa:
Now, The Christian God is all knowing, Omnipresent and Omnipotent. He is in the future and the past at the same time.
At the time he created Lucifer he knew he was going to rebel and lead people astray, cause so much pain to his creation, why was Lucifer created?

Are we going to blame Satan for being bad or blame a God who knew Lucifer was going to be bad before creation?

Or is the concept of God and Satan a fairytale?

What is your opinion to the above?

Please where is the highlighted found written in the Bible?

@op you seem to have missed it.

Have you considered the story of Job in the bible?

The devil is a trusted servant of God. His sole purpose is to test Souls and provide the ideal conditions for their purification through suffering.

MaxInDHouse:
Please where is the highlighted found written in the Bible?

Christians agree that God is all-present and all-powerful, do you agree or not? I would not want to go into needless arguments on mere semantics.

Is your God all-knowing, powerful, and present?

Nnamdipapa:
Christians agree that God is all-present and all-powerful, do you agree or not? I would not want to go into needless arguments on mere semantics.
Is your God all-knowing, powerful, and present?

All powerful YES but all-knowing and all-present is not biblical!

MaxInDHouse:
All powerful YES but all-knowing and all-present is not biblical!

Interesting?

In my reading of the Bible, I’ve noticed several passages that speak clearly about God’s omnipresence and all-knowing nature. For example, Psalm 139. In verses 1–6, the psalmist tells me, “O Lord, you have searched me and known me,” which I take to mean how completely God understands the humans.
Then, in verses 7–12, It says that no matter where I go—even if I were to soar to the heavens or delve into the depths of the earth—God’s presence is always there connoting Omnipresent.

Also, in Jeremiah 23:24, where God poses the question, “Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him?” This drives home the that nothing is hidden from His sight. Similarly, Proverbs 15:3 tells me that “The eyes of the LORD are in every place, keeping watch on the evil and the good,” further affirming His complete and constant awareness.

Together, these passages reinforce my conclusion that God is everywhere at once and possesses infinite knowledge about all things.

Nnamdipapa:
Interesting?
In my reading of the Bible, I’ve noticed several passages that speak clearly about God’s omnipresence and all-knowing nature. For example, Psalm 139. In verses 1–6, the psalmist tells me, “O Lord, you have searched me and known me,” which I take to mean how completely God understands the humans.
Then, in verses 7–12, It says that no matter where I go—even if I were to soar to the heavens or delve into the depths of the earth—God’s presence is always there connoting Omnipresent.
Also, in Jeremiah 23:24, where God poses the question, “Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him?” This drives home the that nothing is hidden from His sight. Similarly, Proverbs 15:3 tells me that “The eyes of the LORD are in every place, keeping watch on the evil and the good,” further affirming His complete and constant awareness.
Together, these passages reinforce my conclusion that God is everywhere at once and possesses infinite knowledge about all things.

Thanks for the scriptural backing!

God only pay attention to those who are doing things pleasing to Him not all kinds of people so the Psalmist is talking about how God fixed His mind on those having faith in Him but when it comes to people who don't believe in God it's angels that are reporting to God what such ones are doing {Genesis 18:20-21} and as for evildoers God doesn't like looking at what they are doing because His eyes are too pure! Habakkuk 1:13

So He is not everywhere as religion says neither does He knows what is happening everywhere.

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for the scriptural backing!

God only pay attention to those who are doing things pleasing to Him not all kinds of people so the Psalmist is talking about how God fixed His mind on those having faith in Him but when it comes to people who don't believe in God it's angels that are reporting to God what such ones are doing {Genesis 18:20-21} and as for evildoers God doesn't like looking at what they are doing because His eyes are too pure! Habakkuk 1:13

So He is not everywhere as religion says neither does He knows what is happening everywhere.

If you say " God doesn't like looking at what they are doing because His eyes are too pure!" does it mean God is not aware and have no knowlege of such people?

Your Bible interpretation of that passage is debatable and subject to your personal interpretations. I can confidently say over 99% of Pentecostal Christians disagreeing with you.

Nnamdipapa:
If you say " God doesn't like looking at what they are doing because His eyes are too pure!" does it mean God is not aware and have no knowlege of such people?

Your Bible interpretation of that passage is debatable and subject to your personal interpretations. I can confidently say over 99% of Pentecostal Christians disagreeing with you.

Please carefully read what God said:

“The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it" Genesis 18:20-21

“Do not harm the boy, and do not do anything at all to him, for now I do know that you are God-fearing because you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me.” Genesis 22:12

Please what do you think about the highlighted in blue?

Do you still think Pentecostal Churches got things right?

MaxInDHouse:
Please carefully read what God said:

“The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it" Genesis 18:20-21

“Do not harm the boy, and do not do anything at all to him, for now I do know that you are God-fearing because you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me.” Genesis 22:12

Please what do you think about the highlighted in blue?

Do you still think Pentecostal Churches got things right?

Your arguments seemed to support the verses of the Bible you quoted and mine also supported the verses I mentioned earlier above. Are you saying some verses of the Bible are more important and should be held in higher consideration than others?

Fyi, I don't believe the Bible has anything to do with any God. the Bible is entirely written by men to control others and is ridden with lots of errors and inconsistencies. I also do not think there is any God or any way as the notion of a God is entirely man-made to explain mysteries and control others.

Nnamdipapa:
Your arguments seemed to support the verses of the Bible you quoted and mine also supported the verses I mentioned earlier above. Are you saying some verses of the Bible are more important and should be held in higher consideration than others?
Fyi, I don't believe the Bible has anything to do with any God. the Bible is entirely written by men to control others and is ridden with lots of errors and inconsistencies. I also do not think there is any God or any way as the notion of a God is entirely man-made to explain mysteries and control others.

The highlighted is what those you are calling pastors in Christendom churches think too that's why they contradicts themselves without shame claiming men of God but the truth remains that there is a God you only need to know the reason why He gave us the Bible but if you are not interested it's OK!

MaxInDHouse:
All powerful YES but all-knowing and all-present is not biblical!

all knowing and all present is not biblical. I just don't want to engage with you but you keep spilling out nonsense.

Nnamdipapa:
If you say " God doesn't like looking at what they are doing because His eyes are too pure!" does it mean God is not aware and have no knowlege of such people?

Your Bible interpretation of that passage is debatable and subject to your personal interpretations. I can confidently say over 99% of Pentecostal Christians disagreeing with you.

thank you brother. Even somebody that may not fully believe in God still have problem believing you jw. You see how devish and deceitful you guys are

delkuf:
all knowing and all present is not biblical. I just don't want to engage with you but you keep spilling out nonsense.

delkuf:
thank you brother. Even somebody that may not fully believe in God still have problem believing you jw. You see how devish and deceitful you guys are

Ọmọ to anyone who have a contrary opinion about whatever you say it rubbish you are typing.
So even all what you believe is rubbish to him!

Nnamdipapa:
My people, let us discuss this scenario.

Let's assume your just got married and you have the power to see the future, now, looking into the future, you discovered that your wife will get pregnant and give birth to the biggest armed robber in Nigeria who will end up killing thousands of people, will you still go ahead and have that child assuming you have the power to prevent the pregnancy of that particular child?

I need your honest answer to this question.

Even you can see that which is why you are using this myopic example.

But even after you knew this was one of the outcomes, you still married your wife and birthed your children hoping that they would be Mobil workers, bankers and all the other lawful things.

Nnamdipapa:
Now, The Christian God is all knowing, Omnipresent and Omnipotent. He is in the future and the past at the same time.
At the time he created Luacifer he knew he was going to rebel and lead people astray, cause so much pain to his creation, why was Lucifer created?

Are we going to blame Satan for being bad or blame a God who knew Lucifer was going to be bad before creation?

Or is the concept of God and Satan a fairytale?

What is your opinion to the above?

You already know the opinions you are just trying to bend it in the way that you think would make you sleep easy.

You yourself know that your wife can cheat yet you married her.

When you point a finger, 3 others are pointing into you.

TheDivineSpark:
@op you seem to have missed it.

Have you considered the story of Job in the bible?

The devil is a trusted servant of God. His sole purpose is to test Souls and provide the ideal conditions for their purification through suffering.

You are talking rubbish.

If he was servant then God will not be planning on punishing him exactly as the angels who destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, Egypt, Isreal were not punished.

Nnamdipapa:
Interesting?...

That is a Mad Lying Polytheist/atheist you are talking to.

He speaks rubbish and Lies a lot of the time and has no credibility here.

Nnamdipapa:
...Fyi, I don't believe the Bible has anything to do with any God. the Bible is entirely written by men to control others and is ridden with lots of errors and inconsistencies. I also do not think there is any God or any way as the notion of a God is entirely man-made to explain mysteries and control others.

Do you not find this statement crazy?

The bible talks about God from the beginning to the end yet you say it has nothing to do with God?

Secondly, if you do not think that there is any God then why are you here?

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ to anyone who have a contrary opinion about whatever you say it rubbish you are typing.
So even all what you believe is rubbish to him!

See another Mad response. Obviously your madness is becoming permanent.

StillDtruth:
See another Mad response. Obviously your madness is becoming permanent.

Your parents are MAD!

MaxInDHouse:
Your parents are MAD!

Clear proof your Madness don done and that devil owns you.

StillDtruth:
Clear proof your Madness don done and that devil owns you.

Your parents are MAD!

StillDtruth:
You are talking rubbish.

If he was servant then God will not be planning on punishing him exactly as the angels who destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, Egypt, Isreal were not punished.

What I am about to share is a fun fact!

God does not punish anybody. You only reap what you sow. Nothing more Nothing less. Some will get it faster while others while get it at a later time. But it is certain that there is a planting time and harvest time.

The fable of eternal death is just what it is... A fable.

TheDivineSpark:
@op you seem to have missed it.

Have you considered the story of Job in the bible?

The devil is a trusted servant of God. His sole purpose is to test Souls and provide the ideal conditions for their purification through suffering.

So if the devil is fulfilling his purpose of Creation by God, why should we have a problem with him?

Nnamdipapa:
Christians agree that God is all-present and all-powerful, do you agree or not? I would not want to go into needless arguments on mere semantics.

Is your God all-knowing, powerful, and present?

Oga kindly provide the evidence from the Bible in which you claim above that Christians agree on.

Nnamdipapa:
Interesting?

In my reading of the Bible, I’ve noticed several passages that speak clearly about God’s omnipresence and all-knowing nature. For example, Psalm 139. In verses 1–6, the psalmist tells me, “O Lord, you have searched me and known me,” which I take to mean how completely God understands the humans.
Then, in verses 7–12, It says that no matter where I go—even if I were to soar to the heavens or delve into the depths of the earth—God’s presence is always there connoting Omnipresent.

Also, in Jeremiah 23:24, where God poses the question, “Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him?” This drives home the that nothing is hidden from His sight. Similarly, Proverbs 15:3 tells me that “The eyes of the LORD are in every place, keeping watch on the evil and the good,” further affirming His complete and constant awareness.

Together, these passages reinforce my conclusion that God is everywhere at once and possesses infinite knowledge about all things.

If your interpretation of those Bible passages are correct, how would you explain 1 kings 8:27, 30 and 1 kings 19:11, 12?

Nnamdipapa:
Your arguments seemed to support the verses of the Bible you quoted and mine also supported the verses I mentioned earlier above. Are you saying some verses of the Bible are more important and should be held in higher consideration than others?

Fyi, I don't believe the Bible has anything to do with any God. the Bible is entirely written by men to control others and is ridden with lots of errors and inconsistencies. I also do not think there is any God or any way as the notion of a God is entirely man-made to explain mysteries and control others.

So what do you believe Is the origin of the universe and life on earth?

Truthseeker10:
So if the devil is fulfilling his purpose of Creation by God, why should we have a problem with him?

His purpose is keep you here and make it difficult for you to leave. Naturally you will have a problem with anyone whose job is to make life hard for you.

TheDivineSpark:
His purpose is keep you here and make it difficult for you to leave. Naturally you will have a problem with anyone whose job is to make life hard for you.

So God is the reason why man Is suffering?

Truthseeker10:
So God is the reason why man Is suffering?

GOD is not the reason man is suffering. Man is the reason why man is suffering. If you take action, someone is there to ensure you reap the results.