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Re: Who is at fault here? by Truthseeker10: 3:13pm On Feb 24, 2025
TheDivineSpark:
GOD is not the reason man is suffering. Man is the reason why man is suffering. If you take action, someone is there to ensure you reap the results.
So when Job was suffering, he was the reason why he was suffering?
Re: Who is at fault here? by TheDivineSpark(m): 3:27pm On Feb 24, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So when Job was suffering, he was the reason why he was suffering?
The story of Job was a deeply spiritual one. GOD was about to elevate him so he had to be purified by extreme suffering and loss. Unknown to many, It was an Initiation experience.
Re: Who is at fault here? by Truthseeker10: 3:49pm On Feb 24, 2025
TheDivineSpark:
The story of Job was a deeply spiritual one. GOD was about to elevate him so he had to be purified by extreme suffering and loss. Unknown to many, It was an Initiation experience.
So God punished Job just to elevate him?

Is the suffering in the world today not also because of God elevating humans?
Re: Who is at fault here? by Nnamdipapa(op): 4:19pm On Feb 24, 2025
In the book of Job, God was playing Betnaija with the lives of Job and his children, is that not ridiculous?
Re: Who is at fault here? by TheDivineSpark(m): 5:00pm On Feb 24, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So God punished Job just to elevate him?

Is the suffering in the world today not also because of God elevating humans?
Like I said, the Job story was deeply spiritual and that particular scenario does not apply to all people.

We humans need to learn the necessary lessons that will enable us grow spiritually, sort out our karmic debts, and be more inclined towards giving and receiving love. This is what is at the basis of the suffering in the world today. We are being taught lessons through our experiences (whether good or bad).
Re: Who is at fault here? by Truthseeker10: 5:06pm On Feb 24, 2025
TheDivineSpark:
Like I said, the Job story was deeply spiritual and that particular scenario does not apply to all people.

We humans need to learn the necessary lessons that will enable us grow spiritually, sort out our karmic debts, and be more inclined towards giving and receiving love. This is what is at the basis of the suffering in the world today. We are being taught lessons through our experiences (whether good or bad).
So How do you know that Job was not paying his Karmic debt? How do we differentiate a karmic debt suffering?
Re: Who is at fault here? by Nnamdipapa(op): 5:06pm On Feb 24, 2025
TheDivineSpark:
Like I said, the Job story was deeply spiritual and that particular scenario does not apply to all people.

We humans need to learn the necessary lessons that will enable us grow spiritually, sort out our karmic debts, and be more inclined towards giving and receiving love. This is what is at the basis of the suffering in the world today. We are being taught lessons through our experiences (whether good or bad).
The Job's story is a tales by moonlight of what never happened, like so many unfounded stories in the Bible.

So God and Satan were having a nice chat gossiping about none other than, job. God decided to play gamble with the life of his faithful servant.
Such a God should not be taken seriously.
Re: Who is at fault here? by TheDivineSpark(m): 5:08pm On Feb 24, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
The Job's story is a tales by moonlight of what never happened, like so many unfounded stories in the Bible.

So God and Satan were having a nice chat gossiping about none other than, job. God decided to play gamble with the life of his faithful servant.
Such a God should not be taken seriously.
Is that what you really think? We both know the story is much more deeper than it appears on the surface.

Anyway, I have already given my take on it.
Re: Who is at fault here? by TheDivineSpark(m): 5:10pm On Feb 24, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So How do you know that Job was not paying his Karmic debt? How do we differentiate a karmic debt suffering?
It's part of the package. You sort out your karma as you advance spiritually.

Karmic debt is not necessarily punitive. It is not always suffering or apparent punishment. Suffering is the outcome of poor choices either consciously or unconsciously. It is part and parcel of karma.
Re: Who is at fault here? by Truthseeker10: 5:11pm On Feb 24, 2025
TheDivineSpark:
It's part of the package. You sort out your karma as you advance spiritually.
🤣🤣🤣where does the Bible teach karma
Re: Who is at fault here? by Nnamdipapa(op): 5:13pm On Feb 24, 2025
TheDivineSpark:
Is that what you really think? We both know the story is much more deeper than it appears on the surface.

Anyway, I have already given my take on it.
How can you "know" without any shred of empirical knowledge?

You you know what it takes to "know" something?
Re: Who is at fault here? by TheDivineSpark(m): 5:14pm On Feb 24, 2025
Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣where does the Bible teach karma
Do not be deceived! GOD cannot be mocked. You shall reap what you sow. Galatians chapter 6 verse 7. Look it up. It is the universal law of karma in a simple to understand language.
Re: Who is at fault here? by Truthseeker10: 5:16pm On Feb 24, 2025
TheDivineSpark:
Do not be deceived! GOD cannot be mocked. You shall reap what you sow. Galatians chapter 6 verse 7. Look it up. It is the universal law of karma in a simple to understand language.
So where did we accumulate this karma debt that you spoke of that makes people including babies to suffer today?
Re: Who is at fault here? by TheDivineSpark(m): 5:18pm On Feb 24, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So where did we accumulate this karma debt that you spoke of that makes people including babies to suffer today?
We have all been here before. Multiple times.
Re: Who is at fault here? by Truthseeker10: 5:18pm On Feb 24, 2025
TheDivineSpark:
We have all been here before. Multiple times.
Bible verse please.
Re: Who is at fault here? by TheDivineSpark(m): 5:25pm On Feb 24, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Bible verse please.
I don't need to quote a bible verse for this one cheesy


The evidence abounds all around you. All you need is to open you eyes and look.

The obvious signs that we all do not begin life on an equal footing is a constant everyone must face.
Re: Who is at fault here? by Truthseeker10: 5:27pm On Feb 24, 2025
TheDivineSpark:
I don't need to quote a bible verse for this one cheesy


The evidence abounds all around you. All you need is to open you eyes and look.

The obvious signs that we all do not begin life on an equal footing is a constant everyone must face.
🤣🤣🤣🤣no evidence from Bible oo.
Re: Who is at fault here? by TheDivineSpark(m): 5:27pm On Feb 24, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
How can you "know" without any shred of empirical knowledge?

You you know what it takes to "know" something?
At a stage you will get tired of darkness and search for the light.

You can experience the light and sound of GOD by singing HU.

Cheers.
Re: Who is at fault here? by TheDivineSpark(m): 5:30pm On Feb 24, 2025
Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣🤣no evidence from Bible oo.
The Bible has several stories that allude to the concept of multiple lifetimes. Like it was suggested in Matt. 11: 7 - 14, Matt. 17:13, and Luke 1:17. Although it never explicitly mentions the terminology reincarnation.
Re: Who is at fault here? by Truthseeker10: 5:35pm On Feb 24, 2025
TheDivineSpark:
The Bible has several stories that allude to the concept of multiple lifetimes. Like it was suggested in Matt. 17:13 and Luke 1:17. Although it never explicitly mentions the terminology reincarnation.
Explain John 1:21.
Re: Who is at fault here? by Nnamdipapa(op): 5:37pm On Feb 24, 2025
TheDivineSpark:
Do not be deceived! GOD cannot be mocked. You shall reap what you sow. Galatians chapter 6 verse 7. Look it up. It is the universal law of karma in a simple to understand language.
Why is Babangida not reaping from the karma?

Why are Nigeria politicians not reaping from your Karma?

Karma is a poor man's consoliation in the face of injustice. It does not exist my friend.
Re: Who is at fault here? by TheDivineSpark(m): 5:44pm On Feb 24, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Explain John 1:21.
Read my comments to understand them smiley. I am not going to teach you your Bible or further expose the spiritual truths contained within.

I have already given the tool you need to get the truths you desire smiley the rest is left for you.
Re: Who is at fault here? by TheDivineSpark(m): 5:45pm On Feb 24, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
Why is Babangida not reaping from the karma?

Why are Nigeria politicians not reaping from your Karma?

Karma is a poor man's consoliation in the face of injustice. It does not exist my friend.
Guy forget everybody go collect! Whether privately or publicly.
Re: Who is at fault here? by Nnamdipapa(op): 5:52pm On Feb 24, 2025
TheDivineSpark:
Guy forget everybody go collect! Whether privately or publicly.
Na lie, I have seen very bad thing happen to extremely good people including innocent babies.

I have seen truly evil people live long lives, enjoy lavish wealth and the children after them keep enjoying.

Again I ask, why is Karma forgetting Nigerian politicians?
Re: Who is at fault here? by TheDivineSpark(m): 5:53pm On Feb 24, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
Na lie, I have seen very bad thing happen to extremely good people including innocent babies.

I have seen truly evil people live long lives, enjoy lavish wealth and the children after them keep enjoying.

Again I ask, why is Karma forgetting Nigerian politicians?
It does not forget and is very impersonal. When it is time for harvest, they will surely get their due payment.
Re: Who is at fault here? by Truthseeker10: 5:54pm On Feb 24, 2025
TheDivineSpark:
Read my comments to understand them smiley. I am not going to teach you your Bible or further expose the spiritual truths contained within.

I have already given the tool you need to get the truths you desire smiley the rest is left for you.
🤣🤣🤣🤣oga come back here. Explain John 1:21.
Re: Who is at fault here? by Nnamdipapa(op): 5:57pm On Feb 24, 2025
TheDivineSpark:
It does not forget and is very impersonal. When it is time for harvest, they will surely get their due payment.
Do you have any idea when that time is? Next one year? Maybe three? Four?

You talk about time to come but have no idea when that time will come for Karma's visitations.

There is no shame in admitting that you have been wrong about Karma's. Like yourself, I used to believe in all those stuff until my eyes opened.
Re: Who is at fault here? by TheDivineSpark(m): 6:04pm On Feb 24, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
Do you have any idea when that time is? Next one year? Maybe three? Four?

You talk about time to come but have no idea when that time will come for Karma's visitations.

There is no shame in admitting that you have been wrong about Karma's. Like yourself, I used to believe in all those stuff until my eyes opened.
It is not our place to know the date or the hour. We just know it will surely come.
Re: Who is at fault here? by TheDivineSpark(m): 6:04pm On Feb 24, 2025
Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣🤣oga come back here. Explain John 1:21.
I won't smiley

Sing HU if you want an explanation. cheesy
Re: Who is at fault here? by Lucifyre: 6:10pm On Feb 24, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
Do you have any idea when that time is? Next one year? Maybe three? Four?

You talk about time to come but have no idea when that time will come for Karma's visitations.

There is no shame in admitting that you have been wrong about Karma's. Like yourself, I used to believe in all those stuff until my eyes opened.
If you don't mind me asking what "opened your eyes" ?
Re: Who is at fault here? by Nnamdipapa(op): 6:16pm On Feb 24, 2025
Lucifyre:
If you don't mind me asking what "opened your eyes" ?
Reading the Bible with an open mind and observing different inconsistencies and things that don't make sense.

Observing my surroundings, the pastors, so called Christians.

Observing Nigeria as a country, all the pastors, Imams, churches and prayers nothing happening.

Covid 19 and no pastor trying to heal a covid victim.

My friend, After 20 years in Deeper Life, I can tell you the biggest scam on earth is religion, especially the Abrahamic variety.

It thrives on fear.
Re: Who is at fault here? by Truthseeker10: 6:19pm On Feb 24, 2025
TheDivineSpark:
I won't smiley

Sing HU if you want an explanation. cheesy
🤣🤣🤣ok....bye bye.
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