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tctrills:
No I never said they are the same person.
I only showed you how 2 people can have the very same Title or position and yet it is seen as one.
Example,
Isaiah says we have only one Savior right?
Now I ask, who is the Savoir Jesus Christ or his Father or both?

Jesus and God are not in the same position.
We clearly see that from the verse you quoted, when Jesus overcame, his father and God promoted him and allow him sit on his throne.

Concerning the title, "God" and "lord", like you said it's just a title, that's why we have many gods and lords. Even humans were God's and lords. Just title.

So that's cleared

Who saved Israel from Egypt, Moses, God or both of them?
Any answer you get here should also go for your question

cornelboy:
I know he tries to paint the bible as contradicting and me I don pass that lol

They don't know what Paul meant in the Bible book of 2Timothy 3:16-17

Is this not how their so called pastors in Christendom established contradictions in the name of denominations?

When Kumuyi, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Olukoya meets they will all face different directions in their opinions yet they will end up with "BLESS YOU" yet each of them will like to keep his own mugus.

Only Jehovah's Witnesses tell them all that if you're not in submission to our Governing Body you can't possibly be a worshiper of our God.

That's what makes us their common enemy!

cornelboy:
Who saved Israel from Egypt, Moses, God or both of them?
Any answer you get here should also go for your question

I think it's Moses since he is God! Exodus 7:1

cornelboy:
Jesus and God are not in the same position.
We clearly see that from the verse you quoted, when Jesus overcame, his father and God promoted him and allow him sit on his throne.

Concerning the title, "God" and "lord", like you said it's just a title, that's why we have many gods and lords. Even humans were God's and lords. Just title.

So that's cleared

Who saved Israel from Egypt, Moses, God or both of them?
Any answer you get here should also go for your question

So the Father did not give the son just any title, he have him his very own title.
So let's get it cleared up. How many other gods do you know that are everlasting Father, beginning and the end the Savoir etc.
As we know, the Son inherited everything from the Father.
Hope we are still on the same page?

And don't worry, you can ask me as many questions as you can as long as there is an answer in the bible, you will get it.

cornelboy:
Jesus and God are not in the same position.
We clearly see that from the verse you quoted, when Jesus overcame, his father and God promoted him and allow him sit on his throne.

Concerning the title, "God" and "lord", like you said it's just a title, that's why we have many gods and lords. Even humans were God's and lords. Just title.

So that's cleared

Who saved Israel from Egypt, Moses, God or both of them?
Any answer you get here should also go for your question

I have answered your question above but one thought came to me. Since we are both on the same side that the Father gave his titles to his Son, then what do you have against Jesus Christ being the one true God?
Remember, the Father did not withhold anything from the Son, the Son inherited it all. Why do you think this has to be different. Why do you think God will break his own promise and principle when it comes to this.
I know God keeps all his promises who think you?

cornelboy:
Lol
Wetin be "equal in purpose" again lol

Angels have the same nature of God, so?
Angels also are united in purpose with the Father ...


Abeg when you ready lemme know

Really, do angels have God's substance? 🤨

Tread carefully, this question demolished your predecessors: Max and Janosky.

Consider its implications 🙃 before positing else you end up like your fathers 🥲

Gabrielshow24:
Really, do angels have God's substance? 🤨
Tread carefully, this question demolished your predecessors: Max and Janosky.
Consider its implications 🙃 before positing else you end up like your fathers 🥲

Cornelboy, another time waister knocking on your door!

MaxInDHouse:
Cornelboy, another time waister knocking on your door!

Waister🤤...
Too much incoherence has made you dumb🙃.

I'm definitely not surprised 🧐!!!

Gabrielshow24:
Waister🤤...
Too much incoherence has made you dumb🙃.
I'm definitely not surprised 🧐!!!

You can never ever find one single person who will join you in preaching, teaching, making disciples and baptizing them! Matthew 28:19-20

Cornelboy is one of Jehovah's Witnesses it's a pity that you have nothing to say in making real disciples like him.

What a pity!

MaxInDHouse:
You can never ever find one single person who will join you in preaching, teaching, making disciples and baptizing them!

Appeal to ignorance 🤤.

You have no idea😁 and you are just speculating👀, a foolish one at best!!!

Better go back to school and work on your comprehension problem🥲!!!

My little child has more comprehension than you!!!

Gabrielshow24:
Appeal to ignorance 🤤.
You have no idea😁 and you are just speculating👀, a foolish one at best!!!
Better go back to school and work on your comprehension problem🥲!!!
My little child has more comprehension than you!!!

With that little comprehension skill see those admiring my comments:

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

Jacktheripper:
This sounds particularly interesting.

Even an atheist can't help himself after reading my posts he said:

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

So continue deceiving yourself!

MaxInDHouse:
With that little comprehension skill see those admiring my comments:





















Even an atheist can't help himself after reading my posts he said:



So continue deceiving yourself!

🤣🤣🤣🤣
This doesn't change the fact that you are dumb!!!

They had a shallow conversation with you, they didn't critique you and your doctrines like I have done!!!

No logically sane person will approve of your doctrines, it's full of false equivocations and logical leaps🥲.

Keep consolidating yourself🤣🤣🤣
Awwwwn,🙃 heartbroken babe

Do you need a booboo👀?
Or ice cream? 🤧

Gabrielshow24:
🤣🤣🤣🤣
This doesn't change the fact that you are dumb!!!

According to you!

Gabrielshow24:
Really, do angels have God's substance? 🤨

Tread carefully, this question demolished your predecessors: Max and Janosky.

Consider its implications 🙃 before positing else you end up like your fathers 🥲

God and all other heavenly beings are spirits

tctrills:
So the Father did not give the son just any title, he have him his very own title.
So let's get it cleared up. How many other gods do you know that are everlasting Father, beginning and the end the Savoir etc.
As we know, the Son inherited everything from the Father.
Hope we are still on the same page?

And don't worry, you can ask me as many questions as you can as long as there is an answer in the bible, you will get it.

Inherit?

God gave Jesus authority and the kingdom to fulfill some specific purpose. Soon Jesus will hand everything back to his Father God.

I cor 15:24,28

MaxInDHouse:
I think it's Moses since he is God! Exodus 7:1

He didn't even answer the question.

cornelboy:
God and all other heavenly beings are spirits

I don't think he knows this!

cornelboy:

He didn't even answer the question.

The answer will make all of them look like fools because it's the same thing that happened in the case of Jesus! Deuteronomy 18:18

cornelboy:
Inherit?

God gave Jesus authority and the kingdom to fulfill some specific purpose. Soon Jesus will hand everything back to his Father God.

I cor 15:24,28

What you wrote is super correct and it's not in argument. So we both agree that Jesus Christ was given all power and authority right? and he shares all the titles of the Father.
Now, you say that Jesus Christ is to fulfill specific purpose and that my be true but then, he was given all things, all authority. He was not given some specific authority or some specific powers. So why do you have a problem accepting this scriptural truth.
It was never up to you to pick and choose which authority Jesus Christ has. His Father gave him everything so why would you be the one to decide which of his Father's titles he is worthy of?
Or do you have any scriptural evidence to support your claims? You don't. Then why not you just believe the Word of God?

Let me share a verse with you, I hope this will open your eyes to Gods plan for his children.

Revelation 3:12 – "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name."

Here, those that overcome will bear the name of God. Think about this for a minute.
Remember we read in John 17 Jesus Christ prayed that those who believe in him become one with him and the Father?
Now you are beginning to see that it means a lot more than husband and wife relationship.

If we may one day bear the name of God, why are you shocked that his Christ is bearing all his titles?

tctrills:
What you wrote is super correct and it's not in argument. So we both agree that Jesus Christ was given all power and authority right? and he shares all the titles of the Father.
Now, you say that Jesus Christ is to fulfill specific purpose and that my be true but then, he was given all things, all authority. He was not given some specific authority or some specific powers. So why do you have a problem accepting this scriptural truth.

Let me share a verse with you, I hope this will open your eyes to Gods plan for his children.

Revelation 3:12 – "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name."

Here, those that overcome will bear the name of God. Think about this for a minute.
Remember we read in John 17 Jesus Christ prayed that those who believe in him become one with him and the Father?
Now you are beginning to see that it means a lot more than husband and wife relationship.

If we may one day bear the name of God, why are you shocked that his Christ is bearing all his titles?

Highlighted can never ever work with a JW because Jesus is not the Almighty or the only true God! Psalms 83:18; John 17:3

You often forget all the things i taught told you about the only true religion we have a pure language that can never ever mix with other languages!

It's only a rebellious or disobedient child among us that will mix the language with that of you people!

MaxInDHouse:
Highlighted can never ever work with a JW because Jesus is not the Almighty or the only true God! Psalms 83:18; John 17:3

You often forget all the things i taught told you about the only true religion we have a pure language that can never ever mix with other languages!

It's only a rebellious or disobedient child among us that will mix the language with that of you people!

What does the word almighty mean?
It means having complete power; omnipotent.
Now read Matthew 28.18
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
So again, you are wrong.

Again, he inherits all his Father has, meaning he is the one true God.

tctrills:
What does the word almighty mean?
It means having complete power; omnipotent.
Now read Matthew 28.18
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
So again, you are wrong.
Again, he inherits all his Father has, meaning he is the one true God.

Surely you don't know the meaning of that word!

Almighty simply means the one who has all the power Jesus was given authority by the One who has all the power which means he is still WORKING under someone nah!

MaxInDHouse:
Surely you don't know the meaning of that word!

Almighty simply means the one who has all the power Jesus was given authority by the One who has all the power which means he is still WORKING under someone nah!

We just read in Matthew.
All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
So stop confusing yourself. If you are given all power, it means you have all power.
Should we also start an English class?

tctrills:
We just read in Matthew.
All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
So stop confusing yourself. If you are given all power, it means you have all power.
Should we also start an English class?

The person who DELEGATES to him has all the power o!

MaxInDHouse:
The person who DELEGATES to him has all the power o!

Ok, Just Christ says he has all powers and MaxInDHouse says he doesn't. I guess it's not too hard to know who is lying.
Note; Jesus Christ never lies.

tctrills:
Ok, Just Christ says he has all powers and MaxInDHouse says he doesn't. I guess it's not too hard to know who is lying.
Note; Jesus Christ never lies.

He never said he has all powers but he was given which means the One who gave him is still ABOVE him!

MaxInDHouse:
He never said he has all powers but he was given which means the One who gave him is still ABOVE him!

So today, it's English class.
Now if you give me N100 naira, do I have N100 or not?
It's one thing not to believe the Saviour and another thing to pretend to be ignorant.
In primary one, did they not teach you, chichi has 2 oranges, I now give her 4 more, how many oranges does chichi have?

MaxInDHouse:
He never said he has all powers but he was given which means the One who gave him is still ABOVE him!

Thanks to you and your criticism, this period I am in the mood for answering questions and teaching.
This last day, I have been trying to help you Guys understand the divinity of Christ. I have taught you from the scriptures proving that you don't need books written by members of your organization to teach the gospel.

tctrills:
So today, it's English class.
Now if you give me N100 naira, do I have N100 or not? It's one thing not to believe the Saviour and another thing to pretend to be ignorant. In primary one, did they not teach you, chichi has 2 oranges, I now give her 4 more, how many oranges does chichi have?

Guy i'm not interested in arguing with you all i wanted to do is help you see the loopholes in your lengthy epistle before you go through all the stress typing so much and Cornelboy will point out the flaws in what you have typed.

Note that i never read all your comment i stopped where i showed you because i am 100% sure you will still commit more blunders while trying to establish what a JW will consider scriptural.

I also noticed that each of you keeps saying "we have agreed" which means you are after agreement with whoever engage you in a discussion but i will tell you the truth just two as in only two persons among you will never ever come to an agreement on doctrines the only thing you people can agree upon is the common enemy you people have: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Apart from agreeing to castigate the JWs you people will never ever come to an agreement on how to WORK together as disciples of Jesus Christ!

tctrills:
you don't need books written by members of your organization to teach the gospel.

This is the reason why i said it is impossible for TWO of you no matter how serious you may be can agree on how to do the work Jesus assigned to his disciples!

MaxInDHouse:
Guy i'm not interested in arguing with you all i wanted to do is help you see the loopholes in your lengthy epistle before you go through all the stress typing so much and Cornelboy will point out the flaws in what you have typed.

Note that i never read all your comment i stopped where i showed you because i am 100% sure you will still commit more blunders while trying to establish what a JW will consider scriptural.

I also noticed that each of you keeps saying "we have agreed" which means you are after agreement with whoever engage you in a discussion but i will tell you the truth just two as in only two persons among you will never ever come to an agreement on doctrines the only thing you people can agree upon is the common enemy you people have: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Apart from agreeing to castigate the JWs you people will never ever come to an agreement on how to WORK together as disciples of Jesus Christ!

If you want to help me, you first must get your English right. We can't be debating over primary one English.

Again, you wrote 3 paragraphs just to make empty boasts. Oya na continue.
You told me that I don't answer questions but since yesterday I have been answering questions and teaching.
I am sure you will find another reason to criticize me. You too like to find fault.

tctrills:
You too like to find fault.

If this is what you think i will leave you with Cornelboy!